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1. 04:47 AM - Re: Imprortant New Corvair info from WW (BillHowerton)
2. 06:35 AM - Re: Imprortant New Corvair info from WW (Gig Giacona)
3. 06:40 AM - Re: Imprortant New Corvair info from WW (BillHowerton)
4. 07:10 AM - CH 601 XL Flaps (Melvin Francke)
5. 07:39 AM - Re: Rudder Workshop (bill scaggs)
6. 08:47 AM - Re: FAA Alerts had CH701 items this month. (Chuck Deiterich)
7. 10:54 AM - Re: CH 601 XL Flaps (crvsecretary@aol.com)
8. 03:01 PM - Wing Jig? (Michael Valentine)
9. 04:08 PM - Re: Wing Jig? (Paul Mulwitz)
10. 04:20 PM - Re: Wing Jig? (Gary Gower)
11. 06:56 PM - Re: Wing Jig? (ROBERT SCEPPA)
12. 07:27 PM - Re: Wing Jig? (N5SL)
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| Subject: | Re: Imprortant New Corvair info from WW |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "BillHowerton" <Bill@Howerton.com>
I've been to WW's site as well as the Corvaircraft thread, and don't see anything
new... What are you referring to?
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=6396#6396
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| Subject: | Re: Imprortant New Corvair info from WW |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Gig Giacona" <wr.giacona@cox.net>
There are some issues with the crank and WW is now saying all cranks need to be
nitrited. Here's the link.
BillHowerton wrote:
> I've been to WW's site as well as the Corvaircraft thread, and don't see anything
new... What are you referring to?
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W.R. Gig Giacona
601XL Under Construction
See my progress at www.peoamerica.net/N601WR
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=6413#6413
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| Subject: | Re: Imprortant New Corvair info from WW |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "BillHowerton" <Bill@Howerton.com>
Thanks for the link -- Yeah I knew about the AD the WW issued on the 15th regarding
nitrided cranks.
In truth, he told me back in the early fall that he recommended that all Corvair
engine builders use nitrided cranks. At the time, the full set of data had
yet to be compiled, but as a minimum it provided a good measure of safety. The
newsletter on the 15th, is essentially a summation of his research in the area
and the issuance of an actual AD.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=6414#6414
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Melvin Francke" <mlfrancke@charter.net>
On the CH 601 XL flaps part 6W1-3-1 (nylon control plate) has a 1/4" x 15mm slot
in it.
My question is does this slot also get put in the inboard end rib(6W1-1-1) or is
it just a 1/4" hole in the rib?
Thanks,
Lee Francke
CH 601 XL s/n: 6-5985
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| Subject: | Re: Rudder Workshop |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "bill scaggs" <b.scaggs@comcast.net>
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Sent: Monday, January 23, 2006 5:03 PM
Subject: RE: Zenith-List: Rudder Workshop
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> My wife wants to challenge your dad to a clecoff. Ha Ha.
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> Kevin Bonds
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> Nashville TN
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> 601XL Corvair powered; Plans building.
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> Guys,
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> I went to the rudder workshop last week and it was great. The
> facilities were very nice and the people were fantastic. I really
> encourage anyone who is thinking about building to attend. I have some
> pictures of the workshop and the demo flight on my web site. Check it
> out and let me know what you think. http://www.johnsplane.com/
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> John
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| Subject: | Re: FAA Alerts had CH701 items this month. |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Chuck Deiterich" <cfd@thegateway.net>
Richard,
Good information, thanks. I believe that Zenith did change to bolts for the
upper rudder hinge attachment.
Also, somewhere I remember reading that the vibration/shaking from the
starting and stopping of the Rotax 912 can cause some problems with the
tail.
Chuck D.
N701TX
----- Original Message -----
From: "Richard T. Perry" <perryrt@hotmail.com>
Sent: Monday, January 23, 2006 4:55 PM
Subject: Zenith-List: FAA Alerts had CH701 items this month.
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Richard T. Perry"
<perryrt@hotmail.com>
>
> Sorry if this is a duplicate posting, folks, but I tried posting this
> several days ago and it seems to have never shown up in the digests that I
> get, so I'm assuming some SPAM filter munched it somewhere.
>
> Anyway, for those of us that aren't familiar with it, the FAA puts out a
> monthly publication - titled AC43-16A, or "Aviation Maintenance Alerts".
> It's a summary of feedback they're getting (either voluntarily or required
> per the FAR's) from operators and mechanics in the field. This last month
> (Dec 05) it had three items about the CH-701 in it. The issue can be had
> from the FAA at:
>
> http://www.faa.gov/aircraft/safety/alerts/aviation_maintenance/index.cfm
>
> It's been somewhat unusual to see items about experimental aircraft in the
> past - perhaps this is a sign of an increased focus on SLSA-type aircraft
> (which is a good thing, I think.)
>
> Anyway, the important bit is that while these reports carry NO regulatory
> weight with them, it's been my experience as an A&P that things that show
up
> in this publication are worth keeping in mind the next time you look at an
> area of the aircraft, 'cause if somebody else noticed them and was
motivated
> enough to send in a report on it...well, let's just say that most
mechanics
> aren't known for their love of paperwork.
>
> We pass these publications around to all our guys in the shop here, and I
> try to keep a binder with back issues with the "items" about the aircraft
we
> have here tabbed. Of the three items that I saw in this particular issue,
> the prop hub crack scared me a bit (considering this prop appears to have
a
> history of cracking in other applications - check www.ultralightnews.ca
and
> search on "Warp Drive" for further), and the other two issues concerned me
a
> little considering they're both related to primary flight controls. I
think
> that if I owned or maintained a 701 (I don't, not yet), I'd keep an eye on
> those areas, or possibly look at beefing up those areas a bit while
> building.
>
> Thanks -
>
> Richard Perry, A&P/IA
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: CH 601 XL Flaps |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: crvsecretary@aol.com
Put a slot in the rib as well as the nylon block.
Regards,
Tracy Smith
N458XL (reserved)
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From: Melvin Francke <mlfrancke@charter.net>
Sent: Tue, 24 Jan 2006 09:05:35 -0600
Subject: Zenith-List: CH 601 XL Flaps
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Melvin Francke" <mlfrancke@charter.net>
On the CH 601 XL flaps part 6W1-3-1 (nylon control plate) has a 1/4" x 15mm slot
in it.
My question is does this slot also get put in the inboard end rib(6W1-1-1) or is
it just a 1/4" hole in the rib?
Thanks,
Lee Francke
CH 601 XL s/n: 6-5985
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: Michael Valentine <mgvalentine@gmail.com>
Hello again -
Thanks for the responses to my issues surrounding the bow in my rear wing
spar. I received many good suggestions. The most important may have been
to make sure the main spar was not bowed as well. It was - *I think.*
Anyway, this investigation has led me to the conclusion that it might be
best if I can build a jig on my table to which I can clamp the main spar -
and perhaps the rear spar as well. Obviously it is not sufficient for me
right now to just have everything sitting on steel beams. (I don't know
whether it matters or not, but I bought the wing kit from an earlier
builder, and the unopened crate had just been sitting for about two years.)
So, has anyone crafted some type of jig and can you give me advice on how to
build it? Needless to say, it would be nice if it were reversible so that I
can use it for the second wing.
Thanks, Michael
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: Paul Mulwitz <p.mulwitz@worldnet.att.net>
Hi Michael,
I don't have a jig, but I do have a different way to use the
workbench which might help.
I have a wood (particle board) bench with 2x4's on edge going across
the bench. I am not sure how many there are, but it must be around 6
or so. Each one is screwed to the bench and shimmed so the top edges
of all the 2x4's make a level work plane.
I place the wing on the 2x4's and then use blocks screwed into the
bench or 2x4's to adjust the location of the wing so it is level and
at the right angle (specified in the drawings) for
construction. After the ribs have been squared the whole thing is
locked in place with blocks again. This keeps it all in a nice rigid
position for attaching skins.
It is all a variation on using steel beams with wood replacing the
steel. The wood is a lot easier to fix in place with screws.
Good luck,
Paul
XL wings
> has anyone crafted some type of jig and can you give me advice on how to
>build it? Needless to say, it would be nice if it were reversible so that I
>can use it for the second wing.
>
>Thanks, Michael
>
>
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: Gary Gower <ggower_99@yahoo.com>
Michael,
Do you have a set of plans and the construction manual for that kit you bought?
You need them to build it, and study them first, so you dont beguin replacing
parts.
The building Jig you need is a straight table... Works for both wings and the
fuselage.
Saludos
Gary Gower.
Michael Valentine <mgvalentine@gmail.com> wrote:
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Michael Valentine
Hello again -
Thanks for the responses to my issues surrounding the bow in my rear wing
spar. I received many good suggestions. The most important may have been
to make sure the main spar was not bowed as well. It was - *I think.*
Anyway, this investigation has led me to the conclusion that it might be
best if I can build a jig on my table to which I can clamp the main spar -
and perhaps the rear spar as well. Obviously it is not sufficient for me
right now to just have everything sitting on steel beams. (I don't know
whether it matters or not, but I bought the wing kit from an earlier
builder, and the unopened crate had just been sitting for about two years.)
So, has anyone crafted some type of jig and can you give me advice on how to
build it? Needless to say, it would be nice if it were reversible so that I
can use it for the second wing.
Thanks, Michael
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: ROBERT SCEPPA <rjscep@yahoo.com>
> Hopefully I won't have that problem, Mike. I'm
building from
> scratch and my ribs will all be the same length,
perhaps some
> of the wing kit ribs were slightly larger causing
the bow.
> Anyway good luck finding a solution. Bob Sceppa
--- Michael Valentine <mgvalentine@gmail.com> wrote:
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: Michael Valentine
> <mgvalentine@gmail.com>
>
> Hello again -
>
> Thanks for the responses to my issues surrounding
> the bow in my rear wing
> spar. I received many good suggestions. The most
> important may have been
> to make sure the main spar was not bowed as well.
> It was - *I think.*
> Anyway, this investigation has led me to the
> conclusion that it might be
> best if I can build a jig on my table to which I can
> clamp the main spar -
> and perhaps the rear spar as well. Obviously it is
> not sufficient for me
> right now to just have everything sitting on steel
> beams. (I don't know
> whether it matters or not, but I bought the wing kit
> from an earlier
> builder, and the unopened crate had just been
> sitting for about two years.)
>
> So, has anyone crafted some type of jig and can you
> give me advice on how to
> build it? Needless to say, it would be nice if it
> were reversible so that I
> can use it for the second wing.
>
> Thanks, Michael
>
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: N5SL <nfivesl@yahoo.com>
Michael:
Here's a picture of my jig. Just be sure you follow
the directions and keep both spars level as noted in
the assembly manual:
http://www.cooknwithgas.com/12_27_03_RightwingJigged.JPG
Email me off list if you have any specific questions.
I hope this helps.
Scott Laughlin
www.cooknwithgas.com
--- Michael Valentine <mgvalentine@gmail.com> wrote:
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: Michael Valentine
> <mgvalentine@gmail.com>
>
> Hello again -
>
> Thanks for the responses to my issues surrounding
> the bow in my rear wing
> spar.
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