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Mon 01/30/06


Total Messages Posted: 14



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 12:34 AM - Re: Elctrical Wiring Software (Martin Pohl)
     2. 05:17 AM - Re: Discolored fuel (Zed Smith)
     3. 05:56 AM - Baggage comparment upholstery (Brad Cohen)
     4. 05:56 AM - Re: Re: Discolored fuel (cgalley)
     5. 06:03 AM - Re: matco brakes  (Dave Austin)
     6. 06:06 AM - Re: Discolored fuel (Dave Austin)
     7. 07:00 AM - Re: matco brakes  (Sigmo@aol.com)
     8. 07:54 AM - Re: matco brakes (Larry McFarland)
     9. 08:16 AM - Re: matco brakes (Larry McFarland)
    10. 09:17 AM - Re: another new guy (Paul Tipton)
    11. 09:38 AM - Re: Oil recovery system installation (lgingell)
    12. 09:40 AM - Re: Elctrical Wiring Software (Charles D)
    13. 06:41 PM - EGT probe questions (Zed Smith)
    14. 10:52 PM - Kitplanes Magazine Request: Hazard Avoidance Avionics Installations (Cory Emberson)
 
 
 


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    Time: 12:34:38 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Elctrical Wiring Software
    From: "Martin Pohl" <mpohl@pohltec.ch>
    --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Martin Pohl" <mpohl@pohltec.ch> Thank you for all the infos! Martin Pohl Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=8075#8075


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    Time: 05:17:22 AM PST US
    From: Zed Smith <zsmith3rd@earthlink.net>
    Subject: re: Discolored fuel
    --> Zenith-List message posted by: Zed Smith <zsmith3rd@earthlink.net> do not archive Had the same results on a previous installation of my 912. Putting clean fuel in and getting dirty-looking fuel out will get your attention in a hurry. Had a clear plastic inline fuel filter which got really dark, but after draining all the fuel through this filter then replacing filter and repeating the process it got much better. The filter didn't take out the dark color, but new fuel run through the system didn't get nearly as dark second time. Took the second filter off and replaced it with a third filter. After about 30 gallons the system cleaned up nicely. Cut both used fiters open; no "trash", but definitely off-color. Blamed the discoloration on internal surfaces of black fuel hoses, various forms of goop on fittings, etc. The gasoline does have some of the qualities of a solvent.....apparently it played Mister Kleen on the system. Am told that various additives to mogas, for seasonal and geographic reasons, contribute to this. If you save the discolored gas you'll have plenty of fuel for the wife's lawnmower. Regards, Zed/701/R912/90+%/etc


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    Time: 05:56:25 AM PST US
    From: "Brad Cohen" <bradfnp@msn.com>
    Subject: Baggage comparment upholstery
    --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Brad Cohen" <bradfnp@msn.com> A few months ago there was a discussion on the list about the best way to line the 601XL wing lockers. To solve the problem I had a marine upholstery company fabricate a liner out of marine carpet with velcro attachments points so it could be easily removed then replaced to allow for inspections. The company made two sets and I obviously only need one. for more detailed info and pictures, please contact me off list. Brad Cohen


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    Time: 05:56:25 AM PST US
    From: "cgalley" <cgalley@qcbc.org>
    Subject: Re: re: Discolored fuel
    --> Zenith-List message posted by: "cgalley" <cgalley@qcbc.org> Don't place the blame just on auto gas. One of the prime octane enhancers in AVGAS is toluene. It is a very active solvent that will take paint off the side of your plane. We had to repaint our Skyhawk due to a leaking quick drain. Cy Galley - Chair, AirVenture Emergency Aircraft Repair A Service Project of Chapter 75 EAA Safety Programs Editor - TC EAA Sport Pilot ----- Original Message ----- From: "Zed Smith" <zsmith3rd@earthlink.net> Sent: Monday, January 30, 2006 7:12 AM Subject: Zenith-List: re: Discolored fuel > --> Zenith-List message posted by: Zed Smith <zsmith3rd@earthlink.net> > > do not archive > > Had the same results on a previous installation of my 912. Putting clean > fuel in and getting dirty-looking fuel out will get your attention in a > hurry. > > Had a clear plastic inline fuel filter which got really dark, but after > draining all the fuel through this filter then replacing filter and > repeating the process it got much better. The filter didn't take out the > dark color, but new fuel run through the system didn't get nearly as dark > second time. > Took the second filter off and replaced it with a third filter. After > about 30 gallons the system cleaned up nicely. > > Cut both used fiters open; no "trash", but definitely off-color. > > Blamed the discoloration on internal surfaces of black fuel hoses, various > forms of goop on fittings, etc. > The gasoline does have some of the qualities of a solvent.....apparently > it played Mister Kleen on the system. > > Am told that various additives to mogas, for seasonal and geographic > reasons, contribute to this. > If you save the discolored gas you'll have plenty of fuel for the wife's > lawnmower. > > Regards, > > Zed/701/R912/90+%/etc > > >


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    Time: 06:03:06 AM PST US
    From: "Dave Austin" <daveaustin2@sprint.ca>
    Subject: Re: matco brakes
    --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Dave Austin" <daveaustin2@sprint.ca> Gord, I put the bleeder at the bottom so that I could fill the system using the "pump from the bottom" technique. Worked well and kept the bubbles out. I also used Dot 5 with no problems for 12 years. Dave Austin 601HDS - 912, Spitfire Mk VIII


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    Time: 06:06:52 AM PST US
    From: "Dave Austin" <daveaustin2@sprint.ca>
    Subject: Re: Discolored fuel
    --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Dave Austin" <daveaustin2@sprint.ca> IMHO, lacquer thinner is a bit harsh for tanks and lines. I used paraffin (stove oil) to flush mine. Dave Austin 601HDS - 912, Spitfire Mk VIII


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    Time: 07:00:08 AM PST US
    From: Sigmo@aol.com
    Subject: Re: matco brakes
    --> Zenith-List message posted by: Sigmo@aol.com You can move the bleeder screw to the bottom, it makes no difference which side it's on. I was told to use 5606 hydraulic fluid and it works just fine. Mike Sigman N7092N 601XL


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    Time: 07:54:22 AM PST US
    From: Larry McFarland <larrymc@qconline.com>
    Subject: Re: matco brakes
    --> Zenith-List message posted by: Larry McFarland <larrymc@qconline.com> Gord, The brakes are easiest to install in the orientation shown on this link. Brake assembly shown inside, low and angled to the rear. This puts your hose connection up and the bleeder down. Also makes axle disassembly for inspection or tire repair much easier for handling spacers, washers etc. Keeps the assembly inside wheel fairings if you plan to use them. http://www.macsmachine.com/images/gear/full/pantforkbracketrh.gif Larry McFarland - 601HDS at www.macsmachine.com do not archive Gord O'Donnell wrote: >--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Gord O'Donnell" <gordod@ca.ibm.com> > >Hello all, >I have a few questions on 601hd brakes. I am installing matco wheels and >brakes. >1) I have looked at several pics and noticed the bleeder screws at the top >of the caliper on some planes and the bottom on others is one way correct ? >2) On the install Kit from ZAC you get 3x 90 degree elbows and 1x180 >degree. I put the 180 on the right pilot pedal is this correct (I only have >the plans no assembly documentation) >3) What brake fluid should I use. Will Dot 5 silicon based be OK ? > >Thank You >Gord O'Donnell >Gordod@ca.ibm.com > > > >


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    Time: 08:16:29 AM PST US
    From: Larry McFarland <larrymc@qconline.com>
    Subject: Re: matco brakes
    --> Zenith-List message posted by: Larry McFarland <larrymc@qconline.com> Gord, DOT 5 is what is recommended for Matco brakes. Bleeder screws are better placed downward to avoid putting the drained fluids on the brakes at disassembly. Also you need to maintain the strength of the fork, so angling the brake assembly back at 45 degrees will help with that. I used 90s on the cylinders to permit the hoses to curve thru 270 degrees while returning to the hard lines at the center console. In this manner, it works fine. See links below, http://www.macsmachine.com/images/wheelfairings/full/fairingbrakefit.gif http://www.macsmachine.com/images/controllinkages/full/fuelshutoff2.gif http://www.macsmachine.com/images/controllinkages/full/arudder.gif http://www.macsmachine.com/images/controllinkages/full/steer-rod-air-barrier.gif Larry McFarland - 601HDS at www.macsmachine.com Gord O'Donnell wrote: >--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Gord O'Donnell" <gordod@ca.ibm.com> > >Hello all, >I have a few questions on 601hd brakes. I am installing matco wheels and >brakes. >1) I have looked at several pics and noticed the bleeder screws at the top >of the caliper on some planes and the bottom on others is one way correct ? >2) On the install Kit from ZAC you get 3x 90 degree elbows and 1x180 >degree. I put the 180 on the right pilot pedal is this correct (I only have >the plans no assembly documentation) >3) What brake fluid should I use. Will Dot 5 silicon based be OK ? > >Thank You >Gord O'Donnell >Gordod@ca.ibm.com > > > >


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    Time: 09:17:42 AM PST US
    From: "Paul Tipton" <PTIPTON@swmail.sw.org>
    Subject: Re: another new guy
    --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Paul Tipton" <PTIPTON@swmail.sw.org> Congratulation on the startup. If you want to see what a CH design looks like up close, I have a 701 at Draughn-Miller. Shoot me an e-mail or give me a call, I'm in the book. ptipton@swmail.sw.org CH701 - 321PT


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    Time: 09:38:06 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Oil recovery system installation
    From: "lgingell" <lgingell@matrix-logic.com>
    --> Zenith-List message posted by: "lgingell" <lgingell@matrix-logic.com> Mike, Mine is on the right side of the firewall to the lower right of the nosegear. Hope this helps, ..lance XL/3300 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=8193#8193


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    Time: 09:40:23 AM PST US
    From: "Charles D" <charlesd1@telkomsa.net>
    Subject: Re: Elctrical Wiring Software
    --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Charles D" <charlesd1@telkomsa.net> Yes, try "PCB123 Schematic" it is freeware, and EXCELLENT. I can't remember the exact URL, but you may be able to 'google-it', or try pcb123.com good luck Charles Davis ----- Original Message ----- From: "Martin Pohl" <mpohl@pohltec.ch> Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2006 8:06 PM Subject: Zenith-List: Elctrical Wiring Software > --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Martin Pohl" <mpohl@pohltec.ch> > > Hello! > > Does anybody know a (free) software that allows to draw a simple > elecitrical > wiring diagram? Would be great to plan the wiring diagram for my XL (and > will be part of the mandatory POH, I have to write for the plane). > > Cheers > Martin Pohl > Zodiac XL in Switzerland > www.pohltec.ch/ZodiacXL > > >


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    Time: 06:41:03 PM PST US
    From: Zed Smith <zsmith3rd@earthlink.net>
    Subject: EGT probe questions
    --> Zenith-List message posted by: Zed Smith <zsmith3rd@earthlink.net> do not archive List, Can anybody point me to a photo of EGT probes on the 701 using R912 & ZAC-supplied exhaust system? I'm down to either welding on the metric-threaded bushings or just drilling a quarter-inch hole and using the hose-clamp-type. Westach, among others, has the hose-clamp type and it sure looks easier than my previous mess of welding onto stainless steel on a previous installation. Already have the indicator and two screw-in probes but somewhere along the way I have misplaced the 4-piece threaded locknut assembly for one of the probes. If I use these I must get another locknut assy, or go for the clamp type. Leaning really hard towards hose clamps! I'm in the office, nowhere near the manuals, but the ZAC-supplied exhaust pipes have some rather sharp bends just downstream from the heads. Rotax manuals specify a distance from the heads, or the face of the exhaust ports. Does the Rotax measurement end up in the bend? Before the bend? After? Any help appreciated. 65 degrees F, clear, no wind, and no flyable airplane! Thanks, Zed/701/R912/90+%/etc


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    Time: 10:52:40 PM PST US
    From: "Cory Emberson" <bootless@earthlink.net>
    Subject: Kitplanes Magazine Request: Hazard Avoidance Avionics Installations
    --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Cory Emberson" <bootless@earthlink.net> Hello all, I'm working on an article for Kitplanes Magazine about the various products for hazard avoidance (traffic, terrain and weather), and would like to hear from anyone who's had this gear installed in their aircraft. In particular, I'd like to hear your experiences in what you learned in the process, what you wish you had known at the outset, how your experiences with the gear has been and whether it's met your expectations. I would like to focus on the products that are not dug-in certified gear, but rather designed and engineered for experimental aircraft. In addition, I would like to talk to a few avionics shops who have some solid experience in these installations in experiementals. If you have a shop that you felt did a good job, I would love to hear from you. For the sake of the list traffic, I may be contacted off-list at (de-spammed email to follow): Coryemberson (at) earthlink (dot) net Thanks very much! Cory Emberson Contributing Editor Kitplanes Magazine




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