Zenith-List Digest Archive

Fri 02/03/06


Total Messages Posted: 10



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     1. 05:55 AM - Re: wing kit? (japhillipsga@aol.com)
     2. 06:36 AM - STATUS: MASPL's 1-Week Immersive Sport Pilot School (jim)
     3. 09:32 AM - New 582 rotax (HO) (Steve)
     4. 10:10 AM - Re: STATUS: MASPL's 1-Week Immersive Sport Pilot School (japhillipsga@aol.com)
     5. 10:33 AM - Re: STATUS: MASPL's 1-Week Immersive Sport Pilot School (jim)
     6. 01:49 PM - Re: wing kit? (Wentz, Don)
     7. 03:25 PM - Number of Propeller Blades (Ken Erickson)
     8. 03:42 PM - Re: Looking for a 601 (george may)
     9. 10:32 PM - Re: FAA Alerts had CH701 items this month. (Rory Davis)
    10. 10:42 PM - Re: Number of Propeller Blades. (Gary Gower)
 
 
 


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    Time: 05:55:01 AM PST US
    From: japhillipsga@aol.com
    Subject: Re: wing kit?
    --> Zenith-List message posted by: japhillipsga@aol.com Steve, I built the XL and included the alerion trim. I use it on every flight. The XL is balanced such (probably by CH's smart design) to be a little heavy on the left side with only the PIC. Need some trim up to level her hands off. With a passenger, depending on size, trim again necessary, either way. Save money on dog and cat food, spend it on toys first ! Best regards, Bill -----Original Message----- From: Paul Mulwitz <p.mulwitz@worldnet.att.net> Sent: Thu, 02 Feb 2006 20:20:35 -0800 Subject: Re: Zenith-List: wing kit? --> Zenith-List message posted by: Paul Mulwitz <p.mulwitz@worldnet.att.net> I opted for the aileron trim. I want to be able to fly hands-off both with and without a passenger in the other seat. I suspect the aileron trim is the only way (short of an autopilot) to do this. Paul XL wings At 02:09 PM 2/2/2006, you wrote: >I'm nearing the end of my tail kit and thinking about ordering my >wings. I'm looking for opinions about getting the aileron trim tab >option. How worthwhile is this? I don't know that I've even flown >anything with aileron trim.... It wouldn't hurt to save that money >for something else. > >Steve ---


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    Time: 06:36:59 AM PST US
    From: "jim" <jim@pellien.com>
    Subject: STATUS: MASPL's 1-Week Immersive Sport Pilot School
    --> Zenith-List message posted by: "jim" <jim@pellien.com> All, A previous post of mine must have been misconstrued by some. I'm getting EMAIL's wondering whether I am going out of business??????? FAR FROM IT!!!!!. I have had unprecedented response to our 1-Week Sport Pilot School and am presently booked up through the 2nd week of April. I recommend that if you have been considering coming to our Immersive Sport Pilot School, that you reserve your slot early. The reason I say this is that a major magazine is planning a 4 page article on our school in an upcoming issue and I expect that we will be fully booked thru the summer after that magazine hits the street. For further information on the school, please go to: www.MASPL.com Jim Jim Pellien Mid-Atlantic Sports Planes The Mid-Atlantic Center of SportsPlanes.com www.MASPL.com 703-313-4818 Jim@Pellien.com Sent via the WebMail system at mail.pellien.com


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    Time: 09:32:14 AM PST US
    From: "Steve" <hilander@charter.net>
    Subject: New 582 rotax (HO)
    --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Steve" <hilander@charter.net> Hi all, I am new to this list and will be a new builder soon (701 rudder kit should be here by this weekend). Anyhow, just wanted to say hi and also pass on some information that I gathered from another group in regards to another possible engine choice for the 701. For those interested in a 2 stroke power, I read that Rotax will soon have a new version of there 582 available called the 582 HO (High output) which puts out 75 hp and will cost somewhere around $500.00 (US) more than the standard 582. Not sure of the accuracy of the information or all the the details but thought I would pass on the information for those interested in a lighter/less costly engine option. I Hope to use the 912UL myself, but will cross that bridge when I get there. This is a great list full of info and I'm now trying to read as much of the old posts as possible. Thanks for all the great info. Steve (WI)


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    Time: 10:10:58 AM PST US
    From: japhillipsga@aol.com
    Subject: Re: STATUS: MASPL's 1-Week Immersive Sport Pilot School
    --> Zenith-List message posted by: japhillipsga@aol.com Bill, I am interested in your week long Sport Piolt Course. Do you have a syllabus posted somewhere ? Best regards, Bill -----Original Message----- From: jim <jim@pellien.com> Sent: Fri, 3 Feb 2006 09:34:25 -0500 Subject: Zenith-List: STATUS: MASPL's 1-Week Immersive Sport Pilot School --> Zenith-List message posted by: "jim" <jim@pellien.com> All, A previous post of mine must have been misconstrued by some. I'm getting EMAIL's wondering whether I am going out of business??????? FAR FROM IT!!!!!. I have had unprecedented response to our 1-Week Sport Pilot School and am presently booked up through the 2nd week of April. I recommend that if you have been considering coming to our Immersive Sport Pilot School, that you reserve your slot early. The reason I say this is that a major magazine is planning a 4 page article on our school in an upcoming issue and I expect that we will be fully booked thru the summer after that magazine hits the street. For further information on the school, please go to: www.MASPL.com Jim Jim Pellien Mid-Atlantic Sports Planes The Mid-Atlantic Center of SportsPlanes.com www.MASPL.com 703-313-4818 Jim@Pellien.com Sent via the WebMail system at mail.pellien.com


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    Time: 10:33:28 AM PST US
    From: "jim" <jim@pellien.com>
    Subject: Re: STATUS: MASPL's 1-Week Immersive Sport Pilot School
    --> Zenith-List message posted by: "jim" <jim@pellien.com> Syllabus closely follows the PTS for Sport Pilot. For more info on what is included in the course fee, please go to: www.maspl.com Jim Jim Pellien Mid-Atlantic Sports Planes The Mid-Atlantic Center of SportsPlanes.com www.MASPL.com 703-313-4818 Jim@Pellien.com ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- From: japhillipsga@aol.com >--> Zenith-List message posted by: japhillipsga@aol.com > >Bill, I am interested in your week long Sport Piolt Course. Do you have a syllabus posted somewhere ? Best regards, Bill > >-----Original Message----- >From: jim <jim@pellien.com> >To: zenith-list@matronics.com >Sent: Fri, 3 Feb 2006 09:34:25 -0500 >Subject: Zenith-List: STATUS: MASPL's 1-Week Immersive Sport Pilot School > > >--> Zenith-List message posted by: "jim" <jim@pellien.com> > >All, > >A previous post of mine must have been misconstrued by some. I'm >getting EMAIL's wondering whether I am going out of business??????? > >FAR FROM IT!!!!!. > >I have had unprecedented response to our 1-Week Sport Pilot School and am >presently booked up through the 2nd week of April. > >I recommend that if you have been considering coming to our Immersive Sport >Pilot School, that you reserve your slot early. The reason I say this is that a >major magazine is planning a 4 page article on our school in an upcoming issue >and I expect that we will be fully booked thru the summer after that magazine >hits the street. > >For further information on the school, please go to: www.MASPL.com > > >Jim > > >Jim Pellien >Mid-Atlantic Sports Planes >The Mid-Atlantic Center of SportsPlanes.com > >www.MASPL.com >703-313-4818 >Jim@Pellien.com > > > > >Sent via the WebMail system at mail.pellien.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sent via the WebMail system at mail.pellien.com


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    Time: 01:49:07 PM PST US
    Subject: wing kit?
    From: "Wentz, Don" <don.wentz@intel.com>
    --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Wentz, Don" <don.wentz@intel.com> Steve, Van's sells a simple spring preload aileron trim kit for the RV side by side aircraft. I have electric trim in my RV-6 but if I had it to do again, I'd use the spring setup. BTW - even with the trim, I find that I seldom use it. When flying cross country rather than chase the fuel burn with the trim, I just fly the thing. Dw RV-6 920hrs -----Original Message----- From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Stephen R. Look Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2006 2:09 PM Subject: Zenith-List: wing kit? --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Stephen R. Look" <slook@mchsi.com> Howdy All, I'm nearing the end of my tail kit and thinking about ordering my wings. I'm looking for opinions about getting the aileron trim tab option. How worthwhile is this? I don't know that I've even flown anything with aileron trim.... It wouldn't hurt to save that money for something else. Steve


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    Time: 03:25:06 PM PST US
    Subject: Number of Propeller Blades
    From: "Ken Erickson" <ericksonkenneth@hotmail.com>
    --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Ken Erickson" <ericksonkenneth@hotmail.com> I am curious what might be advantages/disadvantages using a 2, 3 or 4-blade propeller on a 701 using a Rotax 912UL/912ULS. Would there be a performance advantage on a 701 during take-off etc.? Ken Erickson CH701 scratch building rudder done... -------- CH701 Scratch Builder Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=9447#9447


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    Time: 03:42:32 PM PST US
    From: "george may" <gfmjr_20@hotmail.com>
    Subject: Looking for a 601
    --> Zenith-List message posted by: "george may" <gfmjr_20@hotmail.com> yes >From: "Jim Pellien" <jim@pellien.com> >To: <zenith-list@matronics.com> >Subject: RE: Zenith-List: Looking for a 601 >Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2006 22:23:05 -0500 > >--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Jim Pellien" <jim@pellien.com> > >George, not sure what you are asking???? The used ELSA that I am selling >can be used for training until 2010. > >My SLSA 601XL is also being used weekly in our 1-week flight school. > >Does this answer your question? > >Jim > >Jim Pellien >Mid-Atlantic Sports Planes >The Mid-Atlantic Region of SportsPlanes.com >www.MASPL.com >703-313-4818 > >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com >[mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of george may >Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2006 5:57 PM >To: zenith-list@matronics.com >Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Looking for a 601 > >--> Zenith-List message posted by: "george may" <gfmjr_20@hotmail.com> > >Jim-- > Does this mean no more training in the 601? > >George May >601XL 912s > >do not archive > > > >From: "jim" <jim@pellien.com> > >To: <zenith-list@matronics.com> > >Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Looking for a 601 > >Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2006 14:27:41 -0500 > > > >--> Zenith-List message posted by: "jim" <jim@pellien.com> > > > >Joe, > > > >I have a used factory-built 601XL ELSA available for sale with less than > >180 hours. Only $69K with radios, transponder, leather, wing lockers >and > >other extras. A savings of $14K over a new ELSA. Also this particular > >ELSA can be used for commercial flight training. > > > >www.MASPL.com for more info. > > > >Jim Pellien > >Mid-Atlantic Sports Planes > >www.MASPL.com > >703-313-4818 > >jim@sportsplanes.com > > > > > > > >---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- > >From: "Joe Scheibinger" <joe@kfiz.com> > >Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2006 12:43:02 -0600 > > > > >--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Joe Scheibinger" <joe@kfiz.com> > > > > > >Friends, > > > > > >If there is anyone that would like to sell their 601XL or HD project, > >please > > >call me on the toll free number below. I also have a friend in the > >Indiana > > >area that is looking for a 701 kit for sale. Thanks. > > > > > >800-416-8360 ext. 217 after 11:00 AM Central Time > > >920-237-1450 after 6:00 PM Central Time > > > > > >Al > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Sent via the WebMail system at mail.pellien.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >On the road to retirement? Check out MSN Life Events for advice on how to >get there! http://lifeevents.msn.com/category.aspx?cid=Retirement > >


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    Time: 10:32:35 PM PST US
    From: Rory Davis <n7cr@bellsouth.net>
    Subject: Re: FAA Alerts had CH701 items this month.
    --> Zenith-List message posted by: Rory Davis <n7cr@bellsouth.net> Reference the FAA alert: <http://www.faa.gov/aircraft/safety/alerts/aviation_maintenance/media/2005/2005_12_Alert.pdf> I finished assembling my 701's elevator & stabilizer tonight and noticed something I hadn't before while the brackets were clecoed. If you look at the photos on pages 13 and 14, notice the wear on the gusset edge. This is caused when the elevator is at full up position and 7H5-3 horn angle bangs against the gusset. I guess it's intended as an elevator stop? This potential wear point could be avoided (too late in my case, since I followed the drawings and assembly manual) if the elevator center hinge assembly (7H3-3 and 7H5-4) is flipped 180 deg and shifted to the left to place the centerline on the side of 7H3-3 opposite the gusset. It might be a good idea for you fellow 701 owners to take a look at this. For me it will be one more thing to check on the preflight. Rory CH701 Kit empennage completed Lacombe, LA > It also appears that the elevator hinge bracket described in the report is more > properly identified as the center hinge gusset 7H5-4 in the 2004 plans, which > has been changed from two L sections riveted together as shown in the photo, to > a single bracket with an additional flange which would reduce the flexing of the > gusset web which causes the stress crack at the bend. > > Rory > CH-701 empennage nearly complete >


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    Time: 10:42:41 PM PST US
    From: Gary Gower <ggower_99@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: Number of Propeller Blades.
    --> Zenith-List message posted by: Gary Gower <ggower_99@yahoo.com> Now that you talked propellers, There is a limit in size & weight (mass?), given the giroscopic forces over the reduction drive... Read about it but cant remember where. Saludos Gary Gower. Ken Erickson <ericksonkenneth@hotmail.com> wrote: --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Ken Erickson" I am curious what might be advantages/disadvantages using a 2, 3 or 4-blade propeller on a 701 using a Rotax 912UL/912ULS. Would there be a performance advantage on a 701 during take-off etc.? Ken Erickson CH701 scratch building rudder done... -------- CH701 Scratch Builder ---------------------------------




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