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1. 04:28 AM - Re: Aux fuel pump in 701.Aux fuel pump in 701. (steveadams)
2. 05:25 AM - Re: Bill of sale update (Steve Hulland)
3. 07:05 AM - Re: Elevator solid rivets (Gig Giacona)
4. 07:58 AM - Re: Re: Bill of sale update (Brandon Tucker)
5. 01:46 PM - Re: Re: Re: Bill of sale update (ron dewees)
6. 05:06 PM - Apology (Bill+Rose)
7. 05:23 PM - Re: Re: Aux fuel pump in 701.Aux fuel pump in 701. (Larry)
8. 07:36 PM - 701 doors (Chris Harding)
9. 08:10 PM - Re: 701 doors (j. davis)
10. 09:59 PM - Grades of Nuts & Bolts (Graham Kirby)
11. 10:24 PM - Re: 701 doors. (Gary Gower)
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| Subject: | Re: Aux fuel pump in 701.Aux fuel pump in 701. |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "steveadams" <dr_steve_adams@yahoo.com>
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> If you use good fuel infection lines, the life is a lot more than five
> years. I've seen regular fuel lines in 30 year old cars that were still in
> tack and they were subjected to a lot more abuse than they would ever have
> in an airplane. My2centsWorth.
> Larry, N1345L, www.skyhawg.com
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> PS, do not use poly lines, you will be sorry.
> ---
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That is true. However, I was talking about the type of rubber hoses that come in
the fuel system kit.
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| Subject: | Re: Bill of sale update |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Steve Hulland" <marinegunner@gmail.com>
So, what do you do when the first owner of a kit has died? It will be hard
to get that bill of sale.--
Semper Fi,
Steven R. Hulland
CH 701, Amado, AZ
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| Subject: | Re: Elevator solid rivets |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Gig Giacona" <wr.giacona@cox.net>
I forgot he was building a 701.
moorecomp(at)yahoo.com wrote:
> Gig,
>
> The XL elevator uses a closed trailing edge skin. A
> bend in the skin forms the trailing edge. On the 701,
> the skin wraps from the rear on the bottom, all the
> way around the front, to the rear on top. It must be
> riveted together at the trailing edge. Thus the solid
> rivets are the best looking option.
>
> Craig Moore A&P
> 701 builder wannabe
> do not archive
>
>
> --- Gig Giacona wrote:
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> > I have to ask. Where are there solid rivets on the
> > elevator? It's been a while since I built that part
> > but I would think I would remember. In fact I'm sure
> > I haven't installed a single solid rivet in my XL.
> >
> > Of course there are some installed by the factory in
> > the wing spar but I really don't remember any in the
> > tail.
> >
> > --------
> > W.R. Gig Giacona
> > 601XL Under Construction
> > See my progress at www.peoamerica.net/N601WR
> >
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W.R. Gig Giacona
601XL Under Construction
See my progress at www.peoamerica.net/N601WR
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| Subject: | Re: RE: Re: Bill of sale update |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Brandon Tucker <btucke73@yahoo.com>
Steve,
We have all heard horror stories about how
difficult the FAA is when registering experimentals.
I am sure there is a way to register the aircraft
without a bill of sale if the previous owner is dead,
but it will take an FAA year... What I mentioned will
provide the path of least FAA resistance.
R/
Brandon
>>So, what do you do when the first owner of a kit has died?
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| Subject: | Re: RE: Re: Bill of sale update |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: ron dewees <rdewees@mindspring.com>
Brandon and others,
I had a special horror story on registering my plane that seemed
impossible to sort out. I called the EAA Hotline and got great advise.
Those guys know what can be done since they talk to hundreds of folks a
year. Give them a call. The number is on the back of you EAA card, or
you can call the main number and tell them it's about homebuilt
registration and they will connect you with a friendly expert. Worked
for me! That's why we pay the big bucks for Membership ;-)
Ron
Brandon Tucker wrote:
>--> Zenith-List message posted by: Brandon Tucker <btucke73@yahoo.com>
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>Steve,
>
> We have all heard horror stories about how
>difficult the FAA is when registering experimentals.
>I am sure there is a way to register the aircraft
>without a bill of sale if the previous owner is dead,
>but it will take an FAA year... What I mentioned will
>provide the path of least FAA resistance.
>
>R/
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Bill+Rose" <naumuk@alltel.net>
All-
Just wanted to apologize for not including "Do Not Archive" to my last posting,
"Typhoid Mary"
It pissed me off so much that brilliant idiots can to rob us from valued build
time that I forgot to add the disclaimer.
I lost the last month rebuilding our computers rather than working on my project.
Hope to get back to work tomorrow.
Good building!
Bill
DO NOT ARCHIVE
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| Subject: | Re: Aux fuel pump in 701.Aux fuel pump in 701. |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Larry" <lrm01@centurytel.net>
I think it is just regular low pressure fuel line, which is fine and will
last a long time. All I am saying is that Fuel Injection line is much
better, higher quality and higher pressure, but higher price. This type of
fuel line, especially since it will not be exposed to the elements will last
longer than either you or I will be flying. So as long as it doesn't get
cut, you don't need to ever change it out. On the other hand poly line
doesn't handle radiuses well, cuts easy, also gets hard and brittle with
age. The only down side I know of with "rubber" fuel line is that it weighs
a little more, but the trade off in safety is well worth it.
Larry, N1345L, www.skyhawg.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "steveadams" <dr_steve_adams@yahoo.com>
Sent: Friday, March 03, 2006 6:21 AM
Subject: Zenith-List: Re: Aux fuel pump in 701.Aux fuel pump in 701.
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: "steveadams" <dr_steve_adams@yahoo.com>
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> ---
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>> If you use good fuel infection lines, the life is a lot more than five
>> years. I've seen regular fuel lines in 30 year old cars that were still
>> in
>> tack and they were subjected to a lot more abuse than they would ever
>> have
>> in an airplane. My2centsWorth.
>> Larry, N1345L, www.skyhawg.com
>>
>> PS, do not use poly lines, you will be sorry.
>> ---
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> That is true. However, I was talking about the type of rubber hoses that
> come in the fuel system kit.
>
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> Read this topic online here:
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> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=19327#19327
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Chris Harding" <charding@houston.rr.com>
Group,
I'm thinking of getting a 701 for just some simple fun flying. One question I
have is: can one remove the doors and fly without them? In the heat of a Texas
summer the idea is appealing.
Thanks,
Chris Harding
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=19463#19463
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: "j. davis" <jd@uwo.ca>
Chris Harding wrote:
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Chris Harding" <charding@houston.rr.com>
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> Group,
>
> I'm thinking of getting a 701 for just some simple fun flying. One question
I have is: can one remove the doors and fly without them? In the heat of a Texas
summer the idea is appealing.
>
> Thanks,
> Chris Harding
Yes, do it all the time. You'll lose some speed/aerodynamics, no big deal.
Side slips are interesting...
Don't stick your head out looking down if you care about your hat ;')
Its tempting...
Haven't yet tried flying with them on but up (top hinge), but I've
heard of it being done. I would need to fail-proof my latch before
trying that...
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Regards, J.
flying: Zenith STOL CH701/912 C-IGGY, 300 hrs.
building: Sonex #325, Jabiru 3300/6, 75% completed
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| *NIX consulting, SysAdmin | email: jd at uwo dot ca |
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--- Steven Wright
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| Subject: | Grades of Nuts & Bolts |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Graham Kirby" <graham@601hd.com>
I've been looking through AC 43.13 hoping to find a section where it says
that it is not necessary to use AN nuts and bolts on non structural parts of
the airframe. I cant find it. I'm interested in knowing what others have
others done when it comes to attaching things like Adel clamps and grounding
wires.
Thanks
Graham Kirby
601HD
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: Gary Gower <ggower_99@yahoo.com>
Sure you can. we fly it sometimes like this, in fact we are making an extra set
of "summer doors" that will be ready in a few weeks. they will have no windows
but kind of a wind deflector made of lexan, once it works (if it does) I
will post some pictures.
Johann, forgot the photos of the gas transfer, I will try to take them tomorrow,
we are going on a short Xcountry to a barbacue in a friends ranch. Hope
I dont forget my camera and take some photos of the flight... Hot season and
windy time is here, time for fun before it rains (June, July)
Saludos
Gary Gower
701 912S Flying from Chapala, Mexico.
Chris Harding <charding@houston.rr.com> wrote:
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Chris Harding"
Group,
I'm thinking of getting a 701 for just some simple fun flying. One question I have
is: can one remove the doors and fly without them? In the heat of a Texas
summer the idea is appealing.
Thanks,
Chris Harding
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