Today's Message Index:
----------------------
1. 05:23 AM - Re: N601MX Flies! (Al Young)
2. 07:02 AM - Re: N601MX Flies! (LarryMcFarland)
3. 07:05 AM - Cam 100 or 125 (Richard Vetterli)
4. 07:15 AM - Re: 701 Elevator twist? (LarryMcFarland)
5. 07:29 AM - Re: 701 Elevator twist? (JAPhillipsGA@aol.com)
6. 07:42 AM - Re: N601MX Flies! (Leo Gates)
7. 08:07 AM - Re: Re: How many don't use some kind of anti-corrosion primer? (Hinde, Frank George (Corvallis))
8. 08:07 AM - Re: How many don't use some kind of anti-corrosion primer? (Brandon Tucker)
9. 09:13 AM - Re: N601MX Flies! (Michel Therrien)
10. 10:17 AM - Re: 701 Elevator twist? (ROBERT SCEPPA)
11. 01:55 PM - Re: 701 Elevator twist? (lynn dingfelder)
12. 03:59 PM - Re: Re: How many don't use some kind of anti-corrosion primer? (Bill+Rose)
13. 04:12 PM - Re: TECH SUPPORT - Zenith Aircraft Co. (Bill+Rose)
14. 04:12 PM - fuel filters and such (Matt & Jo)
15. 04:53 PM - Re: fuel filters and such (Dave)
16. 05:14 PM - Re: fuel filters and such (LarryMcFarland)
17. 05:43 PM - hanger for rent, Houston, Tx (Brett Hanley)
18. 05:49 PM - Re: Stratus-List: Left canopy latch was not (Michel Therrien)
19. 07:16 PM - Re: fuel filters and such (george may)
Message 1
INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
Subject: | Re: N601MX Flies! |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Al Young" <armyret@one-eleven.net>
Phil- congratulations on your 1st flight!! Hope you have many more, just
as successful.
Al Young
601XL
----- Original Message -----
From: "Phil Maxson" <pmaxpmax@hotmail.com>
<WilliamTCA@aol.com>
Sent: Monday, March 13, 2006 7:07 PM
Subject: Zenith-List: N601MX Flies!
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Phil Maxson" <pmaxpmax@hotmail.com>
>
> Today, my 601XL/Corvair flew for the first time!
>
> As many of you know, I took my completed airframe and engine down to
> William
> Wynne's hangar in November (see details on Flycorvair.com, look for
> Corvair
> College #9) in the back of a rented truck. After that, I went down to
> their
> hangar several times to work on it. William and Gus were excellent tutors
> on what to do (and not to do). My last trip down started on Wednesday
> night, and the DAR came on Friday and signed it off. What a great
> feeling!
> We finished up a few last things and did the taxi testing on Saturday.
>
> Tonight, Gus took it up for a few laps around the pattern and brought the
> plane in for a perfect landing just before dark. It flew hands-off. The
> elevator trim leaves a lot to be desired, since it is the early version
> that
> doesn't have very much surface area.
>
> Many thanks to William Wynne for developing a great engine package.
> Many thanks go Gus Warren for a lot of hard work and for doing the first
> flight.
> Many thanks to Kevin Fahy for showing me how to build a perfect Corvair
> engine.
> Many thanks to Grace Ellen for making it all come together.
>
> Phil Maxson
> N601MX - 0.5 hours
> See it at Sun-n-Fun at the Zenith booth.
>
>
>
Message 2
INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
Subject: | Re: N601MX Flies! |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: LarryMcFarland <larry@macsmachine.com>
Phil Maxson wrote:
>--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Phil Maxson" <pmaxpmax@hotmail.com>
>
>Today, my 601XL/Corvair flew for the first time!
>
>As many of you know, I took my completed airframe and engine down to William
>Wynne's hangar in November (see details on Flycorvair.com, look for Corvair
>College #9) in the back of a rented truck. After that, I went down to their
>hangar several times to work on it. William and Gus were excellent tutors
>on what to do (and not to do). My last trip down started on Wednesday
>night, and the DAR came on Friday and signed it off. What a great feeling!
>We finished up a few last things and did the taxi testing on Saturday.
>
>Tonight, Gus took it up for a few laps around the pattern and brought the
>plane in for a perfect landing just before dark. It flew hands-off. The
>elevator trim leaves a lot to be desired, since it is the early version that
>doesn't have very much surface area.
>
>Many thanks to William Wynne for developing a great engine package.
>Many thanks go Gus Warren for a lot of hard work and for doing the first
>flight.
>Many thanks to Kevin Fahy for showing me how to build a perfect Corvair
>engine.
>Many thanks to Grace Ellen for making it all come together.
>
>Phil Maxson
>N601MX - 0.5 hours
>See it at Sun-n-Fun at the Zenith booth.
>
>
>Congratulations Phil!
>
First flights are a great adventure after the building process, but do fly safe.
Best regards,
Larry mcFarland - 601HDS at www.macsmachine.com
do not archive
>
>
>
Message 3
INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Richard Vetterli <richvetterli@yahoo.com>
Any Zodiac drivers on this list flying with a Honda
engine (Cam 100 or 125)? Is so, please contact me off
list.
Thanks,
Rich Vetterli
N56DV (reserved)
Tail complete, working on wings.
Message 4
INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
Subject: | Re: 701 Elevator twist? |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: LarryMcFarland <larry@macsmachine.com>
Chuck,
I played with ailerons that were out from the prescribed twist and also
had my center section out a considerable
amount and both were corrected by drilling the rivets out and jigging to
correct the twist. The center-
section on one line across the seat pan had to go to A5s to get
correction. Each were measurably dead on
after this was done.
It's likely your stabilizer would be correctable by just drilling out
the rivets, adjusting and re-riveting. It would certainly
be worth the small amount of time to fix it. Clecos will show you how
much you can correct after the rivets are out.
Good luck,
Larry McFarland - 601HDS
Charles Kyle wrote:
>--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Charles Kyle" <Phoenix3@cox.net>
>
>Hello,
>
>Despite my best efforts, I seem to have built some twist into the
>horizontal stabilizer of my 701. When getting ready to attach the
>elevator hinge plates, I checked the level of the stab and it appears to
>be off. Over the 2220 mm length, there is about 7 mm of twist. That
>is, with the left end level and the right end trailing edge at the same
>height, the right hand front is raised about 7 mm. I calculated a 0.34
>percent twist and think this is probably acceptable, but really don't
>know. I assume that with all rivet holes drilled and most riveted, it's
>pretty much locked into this configuration. Any insights? Thanks.
>
>Chuck Kyle
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
Message 5
INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
Subject: | Re: 701 Elevator twist? |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: JAPhillipsGA@aol.com
Chuck, the fellow with the idea of putting it on a flat table and re-drilling
and riveting is probably the right answer. Every time you deviate from
standard design on some surface contributes to the whole package and they might
add
up to some instability or reduced performance. I had a problem with the
elevator skin and had to re-drill and rivet some. What I found was that putting
J B
Weld in the extra holes sealed them up just fine and a little light sanding
made them smooth again. After primer and paint they are gone. FWIW, Bill
Phillips N505WP
do not archive
Message 6
INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
Subject: | Re: N601MX Flies! |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Leo Gates <leogates@allvantage.com>
Let the fun begin!
Leo Gates
N601Z
Phil Maxson wrote:
>--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Phil Maxson" <pmaxpmax@hotmail.com>
>
>Today, my 601XL/Corvair flew for the first time!
>
>
>
Message 7
INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
Subject: | Re: How many don't use some kind of anti-corrosion primer? |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Hinde, Frank George (Corvallis)" <frank.hinde@hp.com>
Hi Bill as George said, clad is the skin of pure aluminium on the
oustside.
All of ZAC's kits come with "bare" 6061-T6 and they only all for a
priming betweeen mating surfaces. So no extra apinting required in your
case.
Frank
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bill+Rose
Sent: Monday, March 13, 2006 4:15 PM
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Re: How many don't use some kind of
anti-corrosion primer?
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Bill+Rose" <naumuk@alltel.net>
All-
Now, to throw a 4' monkey wrench in.
I've had to do some scratch building, and some of my T-6 sheet is
"Clad"
(It came from Wick's), and some is "Bare" (It came from ACS). Wick's
sheet comes with a plastic sheet on one side, ACS with nothing. Is this
the "Bare"
they're refering to, or does it refer to some corrosion treatment
applied during manufacture?
I'm using zinc oxide on all mating components, but is there an undue
danger of corrosion on the free spans? Anyone been there, done that?
I don't live in a high corrosion risk area.
Bill
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=21425#21425
>
>
>
Message 8
INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
Subject: | RE: How many don't use some kind of anti-corrosion primer? |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Brandon Tucker <btucke73@yahoo.com>
Doug,
All it takes is a few drops of water to for
galvanic corrosion to occur between two 6061 pieces of
aluminum. The link below is for a picture of my
fuselage on the bench. A very small amount of rain
water got between the two aft fuselage side panels the
day of delivery, and was not noticed until 6 months
later when I needed the sheets. They were in a corner
of my garage the whole time. I went a little
overkill, and sprayed all internal surfaces. With the
benefit of hindsight, I would now just spray where
metal to metal contact exists with a spray can primer.
http://home.sandiego.edu/~btucker-03/HTML/Zodiac%20pics-Pages/Image29.html
In my mind, seeing is believing...
R/
Brandon
Message 9
INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
Subject: | Re: N601MX Flies! |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Michel Therrien <mtherr@yahoo.com>
Congragulations! What a good feeling!
Michel
do not archive
----------------------------
Michel Therrien CH601-HD, C-GZGQ
http://mthobby.pcperfect.com/ch601
http://www.zenithair.com/bldrlist/profiles/mthobby
http://pages.infinit.net/mthobby
Message 10
INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
Subject: | Re: 701 Elevator twist? |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: ROBERT SCEPPA <rjscep@yahoo.com>
> I'd like to know if your scratch building or from
> the kit??
--- Charles Kyle <Phoenix3@cox.net> wrote:
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Charles Kyle"
> <Phoenix3@cox.net>
>
> Hello,
>
> Despite my best efforts, I seem to have built some
> twist into the
> horizontal stabilizer of my 701. When getting ready
> to attach the
> elevator hinge plates, I checked the level of the
> stab and it appears to
> be off. Over the 2220 mm length, there is about 7
> mm of twist. That
> is, with the left end level and the right end
> trailing edge at the same
> height, the right hand front is raised about 7 mm.
> I calculated a 0.34
> percent twist and think this is probably acceptable,
> but really don't
> know. I assume that with all rivet holes drilled
> and most riveted, it's
> pretty much locked into this configuration. Any
> insights? Thanks.
>
> Chuck Kyle
>
>
>
>
>
> browse
> Subscriptions page,
> FAQ,
> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Zenith-List
>
> Admin.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
Message 11
INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
Subject: | Re: 701 Elevator twist? |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "lynn dingfelder" <ding@tbscc.com>
Charles,
As others have said, I think you can correct this if you
choose to. The Avex rivets seem to swell to fill even slightly oversize or
offset holes. I had to make a similar slight correction on my stabilizer
after partial riveting. I drilled out the rivets and had to jig it slightly
opposite to correct, as the rivets tended to pull it back to the same twist
as they were set. Came out perfect.
Lynn
Corry, PA
PS- By the way, an FAA inspector once told me that "jig" is now politically
incorrect. The proper word is now "fixture".
Message 12
INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
Subject: | Re: How many don't use some kind of anti-corrosion primer? |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Bill+Rose" <naumuk@alltel.net>
----- Original Message -----
From: "Hinde, Frank George (Corvallis)" <frank.hinde@hp.com>
Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2006 11:05 AM
Subject: RE: Zenith-List: Re: How many don't use some kind of anti-corrosion
primer?
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Hinde, Frank George (Corvallis)"
> <frank.hinde@hp.com>
>
Thanks, George. You answered the question I should have asked first, which
is "Did I use the same stuff as from the factory"..
Bill
Do not
archive
Remembered this
time!!
>>
>>
>> Read this topic online here:
>>
>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=21425#21425
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
Message 13
INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
Cc: "zenith list" <zenith-list@matronics.com>
Subject: | Re: TECH SUPPORT - Zenith Aircraft Co. |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Bill+Rose" <naumuk@alltel.net>
Caleb-
I speak for the rest of the list in thanking you for your timely
response. Looking back through the string, it seems you're correct in
stating that European testing is required only on previously untested
designs. In addition, I, too was unaware of any national coverage of the
fatal accident until I heard of it on the website.
I'm hardly adamant about destroying what I've already built to prove
it's airworthy. Catch 22. Are there any especially notable danger areas we
can all take special pains to address while building, or if necessary,
rebuilding?
Thanks once again for your time and attention.
Bill
----- Original Message -----
From: "Caleb Gebhardt" <ctgebhardt@gmail.com>
Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2006 12:14 PM
Subject: RE: TECH SUPPORT - Zenith Aircraft Co.
> Hello Bill,
> As for the fatal accident, we don't know any more than anybody else, so
> there is no point in us making any speculation about what happened. It
> doesn't appear at this point that it was related to an overstressed
> structure, and static load testing would only address this problem.
>
> As for the Europeans, they don't have a mandatory static wing test that I
> know of. There is a static wing test for a general model of an aircraft,
> but
> not every individual aircraft. This is done on each new design that hasn't
> been built in that country yet. These tests are generally taken to
> failure,
> for two reasons. First, to prove it will carry the intended load, and
> secondly to find out what the failure point is.
>
> Doing a static load test and getting any meaningful results is a very
> complex task, and is a destructive test. Simply putting sand bags on the
> top
> of the wing doesn't prove anything, you have to load the wings from the
> bottom side. To do a proper test requires large jigs and expensive test
> equipment, and in this case is simply not needed. I assure you that the
> aircraft is structurally very sound.
>
> If you are still adamant about statically testing the wings, the only
> thing
> I can recommend is looking for an engineering testing book specifically
> for
> light aircraft, or a light aircraft testing standards book. There might be
> an ASTM standard, but I'm not sure. Another place to look would be the
> AIAA's web site, www.aiaa.org, or the SFTE's web site, www.sfte.org, they
> are both professional engineering organizations and publish many good
> engineering books.
>
> Chris Heintz will be looking into the accident further when details become
> available to us, and we will share the information with every one at that
> point.
>
> Caleb Gebhardt
> Zenith Aircraft Co.
> (573) 581-9000
> caleb@zenithair.com
>
> Technical Support Disclaimer: While we strive to ensure that the
> advice/information provided through our support is correct, Zenith
> Aircraft
> Company does not accept any responsibility for errors or omissions. Any
> advise or information that Zenith Aircraft Company gives you via any form
> of
> communication is not a guarantee that it will correct your problem. It is
> only offered as assistance to you. Zenith Aircraft Company will not be
> held
> responsible for any loss or damage as a result of our advise or
> information
> supplied.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bill+Rose [mailto:naumuk@alltel.net]
> Sent: Monday, March 13, 2006 5:59 PM
> To: Caleb Gebhardt
> Cc: zenith list
> Subject: Re: TECH SUPPORT - Zenith Aircraft Co.
>
> Caleb-
> There has been a lot of controversy on the Matronics list re: a fatal
> accident in an XL where the wings folded recently.
> The NTSB still hasn't made a determination; hopefully it will be
> something as simple (And deadly) as a loose or missing spar bolt. In the
> meantime, speculation runs rampant.
> From my personal viewpoint, I'm not so much worried about the integrety
> of CH's design, but the little deviations from perfection all builders
> have
> made. The way I figure it, if my wings fail on the ground, I'm out 6-9
> months work. If they fail in the air, I'm out eternity.
> Many listers wonder why Zenith hasn't addressed the problem, but I know
> from experience dealing with EAA tech counseling they simply can't keep up
> with builder's lists for time considerations.
> I think it would greatly increase Zenith's stock in good will to
> respond
> to the list as a whole. I've taken the liberty to cc the Matronics Zenith
> Builders website.
> Out of curiosity, what procedure do some Europeans use to perform their
> (From what I gather) manditory static tests?
> Thank you for this response, and any response to the list.
> Bill
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Caleb Gebhardt" <ctgebhardt@gmail.com>
> To: <naumuk@alltel.net>
> Sent: Monday, March 13, 2006 12:51 PM
> Subject: RE: TECH SUPPORT - Zenith Aircraft Co.
>
>
>> Hi Bill,
>> We don't recommend that you statically test your wings. It's a very
>> difficult task, and would require a very large amount of weight. By
>> trying to test your wings, you are very likely to damage the skin,
>> because you won't be able to distribute the load properly as the air
>> will when you are flying. This is due to the load not being evenly
>> distributed in either the chord wise, or span wise directions. Load
>> testing is very difficult to do properly and isn't advised. Just out
>> of curiosity, why do you want to statically test your wings?
>>
>> Caleb Gebhardt
>> Zenith Aircraft Co.
>> (573) 581-9000
>> caleb@zenithair.com
>>
>> Technical Support Disclaimer: While we strive to ensure that the
>> advice/information provided through our support is correct, Zenith
>> Aircraft Company does not accept any responsibility for errors or
>> omissions. Any advise or information that Zenith Aircraft Company
>> gives you via any form of communication is not a guarantee that it
>> will correct your problem. It is only offered as assistance to you.
>> Zenith Aircraft Company will not be held responsible for any loss or
>> damage as a result of our advise or information supplied.
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: bill naumuk [mailto:naumuk@alltel.net]
>> Sent: Saturday, March 11, 2006 8:36 AM
>> To: info@zenithair.com
>> Subject: TECH SUPPORT - Zenith Aircraft Co.
>>
>> Below is the result of your feedback form. It was submitted by bill
>> naumuk
>> (naumuk@alltel.net) on Saturday, March 11, 2006 at 06:35:48
>> -----
>>
>> realname: bill naumuk
>>
>> email: naumuk@alltel.net
>>
>> Message: Request Additional Info, Nick- Are there any Zenith
>> parameters for conducting a static wing test? Thanks.
>>
>> Model: ZODIAC CH 601, 4915
>>
>> -----
>>
>> REMOTE_ADDR: 67.140.21.24
>> HTTP_USER_AGENT: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1;
>> SV1)
>>
>>
>
>
>
Message 14
INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
Subject: | fuel filters and such |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Matt & Jo" <archermj@swbell.net>
Hi folks, Want to poll the crowd.
For my fuel system on my XL I am looking at using the flexable fuel lines
from the wings to the fues. Then going with 1/4" Al 3003 tube to a filter
on each side. Then to the fuel selector, which is lowered close to the
floor by an extension rod from the selector. Then forward to the gasolator.
Then to the Facet pump. Then to the firewall.
What do you all think?
Does anyone have opinions on fittings. Aluminum, Steel, or Brass?
Any recommendations on filters?
I may also put a fuel flow transmitter. Thinking of placing this between
the gasolator and the pump?
I appriciate your inputs
Cheers
Matt
www.zodiacxl.com
Message 15
INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
Subject: | fuel filters and such |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Dave" <daberti@sbcglobal.net>
3/8" at least to the firewall.
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Matt & Jo
Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2006 6:08 PM
Subject: Zenith-List: fuel filters and such
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Matt & Jo" <archermj@swbell.net>
Hi folks, Want to poll the crowd.
For my fuel system on my XL I am looking at using the flexable fuel lines
from the wings to the fues. Then going with 1/4" Al 3003 tube to a filter
on each side. Then to the fuel selector, which is lowered close to the
floor by an extension rod from the selector. Then forward to the gasolator.
Then to the Facet pump. Then to the firewall.
What do you all think?
Does anyone have opinions on fittings. Aluminum, Steel, or Brass?
Any recommendations on filters?
I may also put a fuel flow transmitter. Thinking of placing this between
the gasolator and the pump?
I appriciate your inputs
Cheers
Matt
www.zodiacxl.com
Message 16
INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
Subject: | Re: fuel filters and such |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: LarryMcFarland <larry@macsmachine.com>
Matt & Jo wrote:
>--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Matt & Jo" <archermj@swbell.net>
>
>Hi folks, Want to poll the crowd.
>
>For my fuel system on my XL I am looking at using the flexable fuel lines
>from the wings to the fues. Then going with 1/4" Al 3003 tube to a filter
>on each side. Then to the fuel selector, which is lowered close to the
>floor by an extension rod from the selector. Then forward to the gasolator.
>Then to the Facet pump. Then to the firewall.
>
>What do you all think?
>
>Does anyone have opinions on fittings. Aluminum, Steel, or Brass?
>
>Any recommendations on filters?
>
>I may also put a fuel flow transmitter. Thinking of placing this between
>the gasolator and the pump?
>
>I appriciate your inputs
>
>Cheers
>
>Matt
>www.zodiacxl.com
>
>
>
>Matt,
>
I think you should put 3/8 aluminum tube from the tanks thru the fuselage firewall
and then go the flexible
hose line only after passing thru the gascolator and the fuel pumps. Flex hose
might serve better at the filter.
The hose needs to be in a place that is easily checked each time you do
a preflight. Aluminum tube
in the wings is a way to get piece of mind between annual inspections.
I don't recommend brass with exception of finger strainer fittings and
no steel for anything in fuel fittings or lines..
Larry McFarland - 601HDS
Message 17
INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
Subject: | hanger for rent, Houston, Tx |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Brett Hanley <bretttdc@yahoo.com>
Looking for another experimental aircraft to share my
hanger with. Northwest Houston, just off FM1960 on
1/2 mile grass strip.
Brett
Message 18
INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
Subject: | Re: Stratus-List: Left canopy latch was not |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Michel Therrien <mtherr@yahoo.com>
Keep us posted on what you do Larry. (on Zenith list)
This happened to me a couple of times. Once, I left
it like that, did one circuit and landed. Another
time, I trimmed the plane, used both hands and was
able to close the canopy in flight.
Michel
do not archive
--- LarryMcFarland <larry@macsmachine.com> wrote:
> --> Stratus-List message posted by: LarryMcFarland
> <larry@macsmachine.com>
>
> Hi guys,
> Last Saturday afternoon I was giving a friend a
> "first flight"
> in my 601HDS and just before takeoff, I lowered the
> canopy
> and heard the latches click. I lifted the right
> side because
> it had once before not been secure. On that
> occasion I closed
> and latched it easily using my right hand and the
> flight continued.
> On this occasion, the left latch had come down just
> outside the
> latch-bar and I failed to check it just before
> takeoff.
> Well, about 300 feet up, the left side had an inch
> of gap at my elbow
> and it couldn't be forced down well enough to secure
> it, so I called
> tower and requested an immediate turn-about. I told
> my passenger
> that it might be awkward to hold the canopy with my
> left hand and fly
> stick and throttle with my right but we'd fly the
> plane, fly the plane, etc.
> It was a little jerky switching between throttle and
> stick, but we landed
> and I revisited the process and allowed my passenger
> to calm down
> and then we took off for a good hour of flight
> without further problems.
> Beautiful day.
> No damage was done, but I'm going to revisit the
> latch and see if
> better security is possible for the forward hinged
> canopy latch system.
>
> Anyone done that already?
>
> Larry McFarland - 601HDS at www.macsmachine.com
>
>
>
>
>
> browse
> Subscriptions page,
> FAQ,
> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Stratus-List
>
> Admin.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
----------------------------
Michel Therrien CH601-HD, C-GZGQ
http://mthobby.pcperfect.com/ch601
http://www.zenithair.com/bldrlist/profiles/mthobby
http://pages.infinit.net/mthobby
Message 19
INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
Subject: | fuel filters and such |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "george may" <gfmjr_20@hotmail.com>
Matt--
This is another one of those questions that will have as many answers as
people that reply.
On my XL I've run with 1/4 inch flexible line from the wing tanks to the
fuse. 3/8 inch
3003 in the fuse to the gascolator on the lower right bottom of the firewall
and
flex 1/4 inch for the engine area. Fuel pump is mounted engine side of
firewall after
the gascolator and before the final filter. (also have a return line to left
tank for
vapor lock mitigation). All cabin fitting are aluminum.
I'm using the Dynon with a fuel flow meter. If you do use a fuel flow
meter, plan
to place it downstream of the pump and plan your fuel lines to allow for 6
inch
straight sections before and aft of the flow meter.
George May
601XL 912s
Other Matronics Email List Services
These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.
-- Please support this service by making your Contribution today! --
|