Zenith-List Digest Archive

Tue 03/14/06


Total Messages Posted: 19



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     1. 05:23 AM - Re: N601MX Flies! (Al Young)
     2. 07:02 AM - Re: N601MX Flies! (LarryMcFarland)
     3. 07:05 AM - Cam 100 or 125 (Richard Vetterli)
     4. 07:15 AM - Re: 701 Elevator twist? (LarryMcFarland)
     5. 07:29 AM - Re: 701 Elevator twist? (JAPhillipsGA@aol.com)
     6. 07:42 AM - Re: N601MX Flies! (Leo Gates)
     7. 08:07 AM - Re: Re: How many don't use some kind of anti-corrosion primer? (Hinde, Frank George (Corvallis))
     8. 08:07 AM - Re: How many don't use some kind of anti-corrosion primer? (Brandon Tucker)
     9. 09:13 AM - Re: N601MX Flies! (Michel Therrien)
    10. 10:17 AM - Re: 701 Elevator twist? (ROBERT SCEPPA)
    11. 01:55 PM - Re: 701 Elevator twist? (lynn dingfelder)
    12. 03:59 PM - Re: Re: How many don't use some kind of anti-corrosion primer? (Bill+Rose)
    13. 04:12 PM - Re: TECH SUPPORT - Zenith Aircraft Co. (Bill+Rose)
    14. 04:12 PM - fuel filters and such (Matt & Jo)
    15. 04:53 PM - Re: fuel filters and such (Dave)
    16. 05:14 PM - Re: fuel filters and such (LarryMcFarland)
    17. 05:43 PM - hanger for rent, Houston, Tx (Brett Hanley)
    18. 05:49 PM - Re: Stratus-List: Left canopy latch was not (Michel Therrien)
    19. 07:16 PM - Re: fuel filters and such (george may)
 
 
 


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    Time: 05:23:08 AM PST US
    From: "Al Young" <armyret@one-eleven.net>
    Subject: Re: N601MX Flies!
    --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Al Young" <armyret@one-eleven.net> Phil- congratulations on your 1st flight!! Hope you have many more, just as successful. Al Young 601XL ----- Original Message ----- From: "Phil Maxson" <pmaxpmax@hotmail.com> <WilliamTCA@aol.com> Sent: Monday, March 13, 2006 7:07 PM Subject: Zenith-List: N601MX Flies! > --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Phil Maxson" <pmaxpmax@hotmail.com> > > Today, my 601XL/Corvair flew for the first time! > > As many of you know, I took my completed airframe and engine down to > William > Wynne's hangar in November (see details on Flycorvair.com, look for > Corvair > College #9) in the back of a rented truck. After that, I went down to > their > hangar several times to work on it. William and Gus were excellent tutors > on what to do (and not to do). My last trip down started on Wednesday > night, and the DAR came on Friday and signed it off. What a great > feeling! > We finished up a few last things and did the taxi testing on Saturday. > > Tonight, Gus took it up for a few laps around the pattern and brought the > plane in for a perfect landing just before dark. It flew hands-off. The > elevator trim leaves a lot to be desired, since it is the early version > that > doesn't have very much surface area. > > Many thanks to William Wynne for developing a great engine package. > Many thanks go Gus Warren for a lot of hard work and for doing the first > flight. > Many thanks to Kevin Fahy for showing me how to build a perfect Corvair > engine. > Many thanks to Grace Ellen for making it all come together. > > Phil Maxson > N601MX - 0.5 hours > See it at Sun-n-Fun at the Zenith booth. > > >


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    Time: 07:02:53 AM PST US
    From: LarryMcFarland <larry@macsmachine.com>
    Subject: Re: N601MX Flies!
    --> Zenith-List message posted by: LarryMcFarland <larry@macsmachine.com> Phil Maxson wrote: >--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Phil Maxson" <pmaxpmax@hotmail.com> > >Today, my 601XL/Corvair flew for the first time! > >As many of you know, I took my completed airframe and engine down to William >Wynne's hangar in November (see details on Flycorvair.com, look for Corvair >College #9) in the back of a rented truck. After that, I went down to their >hangar several times to work on it. William and Gus were excellent tutors >on what to do (and not to do). My last trip down started on Wednesday >night, and the DAR came on Friday and signed it off. What a great feeling! >We finished up a few last things and did the taxi testing on Saturday. > >Tonight, Gus took it up for a few laps around the pattern and brought the >plane in for a perfect landing just before dark. It flew hands-off. The >elevator trim leaves a lot to be desired, since it is the early version that >doesn't have very much surface area. > >Many thanks to William Wynne for developing a great engine package. >Many thanks go Gus Warren for a lot of hard work and for doing the first >flight. >Many thanks to Kevin Fahy for showing me how to build a perfect Corvair >engine. >Many thanks to Grace Ellen for making it all come together. > >Phil Maxson >N601MX - 0.5 hours >See it at Sun-n-Fun at the Zenith booth. > > >Congratulations Phil! > First flights are a great adventure after the building process, but do fly safe. Best regards, Larry mcFarland - 601HDS at www.macsmachine.com do not archive > > >


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    Time: 07:05:03 AM PST US
    From: Richard Vetterli <richvetterli@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Cam 100 or 125
    --> Zenith-List message posted by: Richard Vetterli <richvetterli@yahoo.com> Any Zodiac drivers on this list flying with a Honda engine (Cam 100 or 125)? Is so, please contact me off list. Thanks, Rich Vetterli N56DV (reserved) Tail complete, working on wings.


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    Time: 07:15:51 AM PST US
    From: LarryMcFarland <larry@macsmachine.com>
    Subject: Re: 701 Elevator twist?
    --> Zenith-List message posted by: LarryMcFarland <larry@macsmachine.com> Chuck, I played with ailerons that were out from the prescribed twist and also had my center section out a considerable amount and both were corrected by drilling the rivets out and jigging to correct the twist. The center- section on one line across the seat pan had to go to A5s to get correction. Each were measurably dead on after this was done. It's likely your stabilizer would be correctable by just drilling out the rivets, adjusting and re-riveting. It would certainly be worth the small amount of time to fix it. Clecos will show you how much you can correct after the rivets are out. Good luck, Larry McFarland - 601HDS Charles Kyle wrote: >--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Charles Kyle" <Phoenix3@cox.net> > >Hello, > >Despite my best efforts, I seem to have built some twist into the >horizontal stabilizer of my 701. When getting ready to attach the >elevator hinge plates, I checked the level of the stab and it appears to >be off. Over the 2220 mm length, there is about 7 mm of twist. That >is, with the left end level and the right end trailing edge at the same >height, the right hand front is raised about 7 mm. I calculated a 0.34 >percent twist and think this is probably acceptable, but really don't >know. I assume that with all rivet holes drilled and most riveted, it's >pretty much locked into this configuration. Any insights? Thanks. > >Chuck Kyle > > > > > > > > >


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    Time: 07:29:22 AM PST US
    From: JAPhillipsGA@aol.com
    Subject: Re: 701 Elevator twist?
    --> Zenith-List message posted by: JAPhillipsGA@aol.com Chuck, the fellow with the idea of putting it on a flat table and re-drilling and riveting is probably the right answer. Every time you deviate from standard design on some surface contributes to the whole package and they might add up to some instability or reduced performance. I had a problem with the elevator skin and had to re-drill and rivet some. What I found was that putting J B Weld in the extra holes sealed them up just fine and a little light sanding made them smooth again. After primer and paint they are gone. FWIW, Bill Phillips N505WP do not archive


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    Time: 07:42:07 AM PST US
    From: Leo Gates <leogates@allvantage.com>
    Subject: Re: N601MX Flies!
    --> Zenith-List message posted by: Leo Gates <leogates@allvantage.com> Let the fun begin! Leo Gates N601Z Phil Maxson wrote: >--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Phil Maxson" <pmaxpmax@hotmail.com> > >Today, my 601XL/Corvair flew for the first time! > > >


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    Time: 08:07:11 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: How many don't use some kind of anti-corrosion primer?
    From: "Hinde, Frank George (Corvallis)" <frank.hinde@hp.com>
    --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Hinde, Frank George (Corvallis)" <frank.hinde@hp.com> Hi Bill as George said, clad is the skin of pure aluminium on the oustside. All of ZAC's kits come with "bare" 6061-T6 and they only all for a priming betweeen mating surfaces. So no extra apinting required in your case. Frank -----Original Message----- From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bill+Rose Sent: Monday, March 13, 2006 4:15 PM Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Re: How many don't use some kind of anti-corrosion primer? --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Bill+Rose" <naumuk@alltel.net> All- Now, to throw a 4' monkey wrench in. I've had to do some scratch building, and some of my T-6 sheet is "Clad" (It came from Wick's), and some is "Bare" (It came from ACS). Wick's sheet comes with a plastic sheet on one side, ACS with nothing. Is this the "Bare" they're refering to, or does it refer to some corrosion treatment applied during manufacture? I'm using zinc oxide on all mating components, but is there an undue danger of corrosion on the free spans? Anyone been there, done that? I don't live in a high corrosion risk area. Bill > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=21425#21425 > > >


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    Time: 08:07:11 AM PST US
    From: Brandon Tucker <btucke73@yahoo.com>
    Subject: RE: How many don't use some kind of anti-corrosion primer?
    --> Zenith-List message posted by: Brandon Tucker <btucke73@yahoo.com> Doug, All it takes is a few drops of water to for galvanic corrosion to occur between two 6061 pieces of aluminum. The link below is for a picture of my fuselage on the bench. A very small amount of rain water got between the two aft fuselage side panels the day of delivery, and was not noticed until 6 months later when I needed the sheets. They were in a corner of my garage the whole time. I went a little overkill, and sprayed all internal surfaces. With the benefit of hindsight, I would now just spray where metal to metal contact exists with a spray can primer. http://home.sandiego.edu/~btucker-03/HTML/Zodiac%20pics-Pages/Image29.html In my mind, seeing is believing... R/ Brandon


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    Time: 09:13:24 AM PST US
    From: Michel Therrien <mtherr@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: N601MX Flies!
    --> Zenith-List message posted by: Michel Therrien <mtherr@yahoo.com> Congragulations! What a good feeling! Michel do not archive ---------------------------- Michel Therrien CH601-HD, C-GZGQ http://mthobby.pcperfect.com/ch601 http://www.zenithair.com/bldrlist/profiles/mthobby http://pages.infinit.net/mthobby


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    Time: 10:17:30 AM PST US
    From: ROBERT SCEPPA <rjscep@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: 701 Elevator twist?
    --> Zenith-List message posted by: ROBERT SCEPPA <rjscep@yahoo.com> > I'd like to know if your scratch building or from > the kit?? --- Charles Kyle <Phoenix3@cox.net> wrote: > --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Charles Kyle" > <Phoenix3@cox.net> > > Hello, > > Despite my best efforts, I seem to have built some > twist into the > horizontal stabilizer of my 701. When getting ready > to attach the > elevator hinge plates, I checked the level of the > stab and it appears to > be off. Over the 2220 mm length, there is about 7 > mm of twist. That > is, with the left end level and the right end > trailing edge at the same > height, the right hand front is raised about 7 mm. > I calculated a 0.34 > percent twist and think this is probably acceptable, > but really don't > know. I assume that with all rivet holes drilled > and most riveted, it's > pretty much locked into this configuration. Any > insights? Thanks. > > Chuck Kyle > > > > > > browse > Subscriptions page, > FAQ, > http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Zenith-List > > Admin. > > > > > > > > > > >


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    Time: 01:55:50 PM PST US
    From: "lynn dingfelder" <ding@tbscc.com>
    Subject: Re: 701 Elevator twist?
    --> Zenith-List message posted by: "lynn dingfelder" <ding@tbscc.com> Charles, As others have said, I think you can correct this if you choose to. The Avex rivets seem to swell to fill even slightly oversize or offset holes. I had to make a similar slight correction on my stabilizer after partial riveting. I drilled out the rivets and had to jig it slightly opposite to correct, as the rivets tended to pull it back to the same twist as they were set. Came out perfect. Lynn Corry, PA PS- By the way, an FAA inspector once told me that "jig" is now politically incorrect. The proper word is now "fixture".


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    Time: 03:59:42 PM PST US
    From: "Bill+Rose" <naumuk@alltel.net>
    Subject: Re: How many don't use some kind of anti-corrosion primer?
    --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Bill+Rose" <naumuk@alltel.net> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Hinde, Frank George (Corvallis)" <frank.hinde@hp.com> Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2006 11:05 AM Subject: RE: Zenith-List: Re: How many don't use some kind of anti-corrosion primer? > --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Hinde, Frank George (Corvallis)" > <frank.hinde@hp.com> > Thanks, George. You answered the question I should have asked first, which is "Did I use the same stuff as from the factory".. Bill Do not archive Remembered this time!! >> >> >> Read this topic online here: >> >> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=21425#21425 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >


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    Time: 04:12:47 PM PST US
    From: "Bill+Rose" <naumuk@alltel.net>
    Cc: "zenith list" <zenith-list@matronics.com>
    Subject: Re: TECH SUPPORT - Zenith Aircraft Co.
    --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Bill+Rose" <naumuk@alltel.net> Caleb- I speak for the rest of the list in thanking you for your timely response. Looking back through the string, it seems you're correct in stating that European testing is required only on previously untested designs. In addition, I, too was unaware of any national coverage of the fatal accident until I heard of it on the website. I'm hardly adamant about destroying what I've already built to prove it's airworthy. Catch 22. Are there any especially notable danger areas we can all take special pains to address while building, or if necessary, rebuilding? Thanks once again for your time and attention. Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: "Caleb Gebhardt" <ctgebhardt@gmail.com> Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2006 12:14 PM Subject: RE: TECH SUPPORT - Zenith Aircraft Co. > Hello Bill, > As for the fatal accident, we don't know any more than anybody else, so > there is no point in us making any speculation about what happened. It > doesn't appear at this point that it was related to an overstressed > structure, and static load testing would only address this problem. > > As for the Europeans, they don't have a mandatory static wing test that I > know of. There is a static wing test for a general model of an aircraft, > but > not every individual aircraft. This is done on each new design that hasn't > been built in that country yet. These tests are generally taken to > failure, > for two reasons. First, to prove it will carry the intended load, and > secondly to find out what the failure point is. > > Doing a static load test and getting any meaningful results is a very > complex task, and is a destructive test. Simply putting sand bags on the > top > of the wing doesn't prove anything, you have to load the wings from the > bottom side. To do a proper test requires large jigs and expensive test > equipment, and in this case is simply not needed. I assure you that the > aircraft is structurally very sound. > > If you are still adamant about statically testing the wings, the only > thing > I can recommend is looking for an engineering testing book specifically > for > light aircraft, or a light aircraft testing standards book. There might be > an ASTM standard, but I'm not sure. Another place to look would be the > AIAA's web site, www.aiaa.org, or the SFTE's web site, www.sfte.org, they > are both professional engineering organizations and publish many good > engineering books. > > Chris Heintz will be looking into the accident further when details become > available to us, and we will share the information with every one at that > point. > > Caleb Gebhardt > Zenith Aircraft Co. > (573) 581-9000 > caleb@zenithair.com > > Technical Support Disclaimer: While we strive to ensure that the > advice/information provided through our support is correct, Zenith > Aircraft > Company does not accept any responsibility for errors or omissions. Any > advise or information that Zenith Aircraft Company gives you via any form > of > communication is not a guarantee that it will correct your problem. It is > only offered as assistance to you. Zenith Aircraft Company will not be > held > responsible for any loss or damage as a result of our advise or > information > supplied. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Bill+Rose [mailto:naumuk@alltel.net] > Sent: Monday, March 13, 2006 5:59 PM > To: Caleb Gebhardt > Cc: zenith list > Subject: Re: TECH SUPPORT - Zenith Aircraft Co. > > Caleb- > There has been a lot of controversy on the Matronics list re: a fatal > accident in an XL where the wings folded recently. > The NTSB still hasn't made a determination; hopefully it will be > something as simple (And deadly) as a loose or missing spar bolt. In the > meantime, speculation runs rampant. > From my personal viewpoint, I'm not so much worried about the integrety > of CH's design, but the little deviations from perfection all builders > have > made. The way I figure it, if my wings fail on the ground, I'm out 6-9 > months work. If they fail in the air, I'm out eternity. > Many listers wonder why Zenith hasn't addressed the problem, but I know > from experience dealing with EAA tech counseling they simply can't keep up > with builder's lists for time considerations. > I think it would greatly increase Zenith's stock in good will to > respond > to the list as a whole. I've taken the liberty to cc the Matronics Zenith > Builders website. > Out of curiosity, what procedure do some Europeans use to perform their > (From what I gather) manditory static tests? > Thank you for this response, and any response to the list. > Bill > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Caleb Gebhardt" <ctgebhardt@gmail.com> > To: <naumuk@alltel.net> > Sent: Monday, March 13, 2006 12:51 PM > Subject: RE: TECH SUPPORT - Zenith Aircraft Co. > > >> Hi Bill, >> We don't recommend that you statically test your wings. It's a very >> difficult task, and would require a very large amount of weight. By >> trying to test your wings, you are very likely to damage the skin, >> because you won't be able to distribute the load properly as the air >> will when you are flying. This is due to the load not being evenly >> distributed in either the chord wise, or span wise directions. Load >> testing is very difficult to do properly and isn't advised. Just out >> of curiosity, why do you want to statically test your wings? >> >> Caleb Gebhardt >> Zenith Aircraft Co. >> (573) 581-9000 >> caleb@zenithair.com >> >> Technical Support Disclaimer: While we strive to ensure that the >> advice/information provided through our support is correct, Zenith >> Aircraft Company does not accept any responsibility for errors or >> omissions. Any advise or information that Zenith Aircraft Company >> gives you via any form of communication is not a guarantee that it >> will correct your problem. It is only offered as assistance to you. >> Zenith Aircraft Company will not be held responsible for any loss or >> damage as a result of our advise or information supplied. >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: bill naumuk [mailto:naumuk@alltel.net] >> Sent: Saturday, March 11, 2006 8:36 AM >> To: info@zenithair.com >> Subject: TECH SUPPORT - Zenith Aircraft Co. >> >> Below is the result of your feedback form. It was submitted by bill >> naumuk >> (naumuk@alltel.net) on Saturday, March 11, 2006 at 06:35:48 >> ----- >> >> realname: bill naumuk >> >> email: naumuk@alltel.net >> >> Message: Request Additional Info, Nick- Are there any Zenith >> parameters for conducting a static wing test? Thanks. >> >> Model: ZODIAC CH 601, 4915 >> >> ----- >> >> REMOTE_ADDR: 67.140.21.24 >> HTTP_USER_AGENT: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1; >> SV1) >> >> > > >


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    Time: 04:12:47 PM PST US
    From: "Matt & Jo" <archermj@swbell.net>
    Subject: fuel filters and such
    --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Matt & Jo" <archermj@swbell.net> Hi folks, Want to poll the crowd. For my fuel system on my XL I am looking at using the flexable fuel lines from the wings to the fues. Then going with 1/4" Al 3003 tube to a filter on each side. Then to the fuel selector, which is lowered close to the floor by an extension rod from the selector. Then forward to the gasolator. Then to the Facet pump. Then to the firewall. What do you all think? Does anyone have opinions on fittings. Aluminum, Steel, or Brass? Any recommendations on filters? I may also put a fuel flow transmitter. Thinking of placing this between the gasolator and the pump? I appriciate your inputs Cheers Matt www.zodiacxl.com


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    Time: 04:53:21 PM PST US
    From: "Dave" <daberti@sbcglobal.net>
    Subject: fuel filters and such
    --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Dave" <daberti@sbcglobal.net> 3/8" at least to the firewall. -----Original Message----- From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Matt & Jo Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2006 6:08 PM Subject: Zenith-List: fuel filters and such --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Matt & Jo" <archermj@swbell.net> Hi folks, Want to poll the crowd. For my fuel system on my XL I am looking at using the flexable fuel lines from the wings to the fues. Then going with 1/4" Al 3003 tube to a filter on each side. Then to the fuel selector, which is lowered close to the floor by an extension rod from the selector. Then forward to the gasolator. Then to the Facet pump. Then to the firewall. What do you all think? Does anyone have opinions on fittings. Aluminum, Steel, or Brass? Any recommendations on filters? I may also put a fuel flow transmitter. Thinking of placing this between the gasolator and the pump? I appriciate your inputs Cheers Matt www.zodiacxl.com


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    Time: 05:14:17 PM PST US
    From: LarryMcFarland <larry@macsmachine.com>
    Subject: Re: fuel filters and such
    --> Zenith-List message posted by: LarryMcFarland <larry@macsmachine.com> Matt & Jo wrote: >--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Matt & Jo" <archermj@swbell.net> > >Hi folks, Want to poll the crowd. > >For my fuel system on my XL I am looking at using the flexable fuel lines >from the wings to the fues. Then going with 1/4" Al 3003 tube to a filter >on each side. Then to the fuel selector, which is lowered close to the >floor by an extension rod from the selector. Then forward to the gasolator. >Then to the Facet pump. Then to the firewall. > >What do you all think? > >Does anyone have opinions on fittings. Aluminum, Steel, or Brass? > >Any recommendations on filters? > >I may also put a fuel flow transmitter. Thinking of placing this between >the gasolator and the pump? > >I appriciate your inputs > >Cheers > >Matt >www.zodiacxl.com > > > >Matt, > I think you should put 3/8 aluminum tube from the tanks thru the fuselage firewall and then go the flexible hose line only after passing thru the gascolator and the fuel pumps. Flex hose might serve better at the filter. The hose needs to be in a place that is easily checked each time you do a preflight. Aluminum tube in the wings is a way to get piece of mind between annual inspections. I don't recommend brass with exception of finger strainer fittings and no steel for anything in fuel fittings or lines.. Larry McFarland - 601HDS


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    Time: 05:43:30 PM PST US
    From: Brett Hanley <bretttdc@yahoo.com>
    Subject: hanger for rent, Houston, Tx
    --> Zenith-List message posted by: Brett Hanley <bretttdc@yahoo.com> Looking for another experimental aircraft to share my hanger with. Northwest Houston, just off FM1960 on 1/2 mile grass strip. Brett


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    Time: 05:49:36 PM PST US
    From: Michel Therrien <mtherr@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: Stratus-List: Left canopy latch was not
    --> Zenith-List message posted by: Michel Therrien <mtherr@yahoo.com> Keep us posted on what you do Larry. (on Zenith list) This happened to me a couple of times. Once, I left it like that, did one circuit and landed. Another time, I trimmed the plane, used both hands and was able to close the canopy in flight. Michel do not archive --- LarryMcFarland <larry@macsmachine.com> wrote: > --> Stratus-List message posted by: LarryMcFarland > <larry@macsmachine.com> > > Hi guys, > Last Saturday afternoon I was giving a friend a > "first flight" > in my 601HDS and just before takeoff, I lowered the > canopy > and heard the latches click. I lifted the right > side because > it had once before not been secure. On that > occasion I closed > and latched it easily using my right hand and the > flight continued. > On this occasion, the left latch had come down just > outside the > latch-bar and I failed to check it just before > takeoff. > Well, about 300 feet up, the left side had an inch > of gap at my elbow > and it couldn't be forced down well enough to secure > it, so I called > tower and requested an immediate turn-about. I told > my passenger > that it might be awkward to hold the canopy with my > left hand and fly > stick and throttle with my right but we'd fly the > plane, fly the plane, etc. > It was a little jerky switching between throttle and > stick, but we landed > and I revisited the process and allowed my passenger > to calm down > and then we took off for a good hour of flight > without further problems. > Beautiful day. > No damage was done, but I'm going to revisit the > latch and see if > better security is possible for the forward hinged > canopy latch system. > > Anyone done that already? > > Larry McFarland - 601HDS at www.macsmachine.com > > > > > > browse > Subscriptions page, > FAQ, > http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Stratus-List > > Admin. > > > > > > > > > > > ---------------------------- Michel Therrien CH601-HD, C-GZGQ http://mthobby.pcperfect.com/ch601 http://www.zenithair.com/bldrlist/profiles/mthobby http://pages.infinit.net/mthobby


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    Time: 07:16:19 PM PST US
    From: "george may" <gfmjr_20@hotmail.com>
    Subject: fuel filters and such
    --> Zenith-List message posted by: "george may" <gfmjr_20@hotmail.com> Matt-- This is another one of those questions that will have as many answers as people that reply. On my XL I've run with 1/4 inch flexible line from the wing tanks to the fuse. 3/8 inch 3003 in the fuse to the gascolator on the lower right bottom of the firewall and flex 1/4 inch for the engine area. Fuel pump is mounted engine side of firewall after the gascolator and before the final filter. (also have a return line to left tank for vapor lock mitigation). All cabin fitting are aluminum. I'm using the Dynon with a fuel flow meter. If you do use a fuel flow meter, plan to place it downstream of the pump and plan your fuel lines to allow for 6 inch straight sections before and aft of the flow meter. George May 601XL 912s




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