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1. 04:48 AM - Re: Zenith-List Digest: 24 Msgs - 03/22/06 (hawk172@webtv.net)
2. 05:50 AM - Re: Actual serious question (Tommy Walker)
3. 04:21 PM - Ailerons and roll bars (Bill+Rose)
4. 05:03 PM - Re: Ailerons and roll bars (LarryMcFarland)
5. 05:17 PM - Re: Ailerons and roll bars (Craig Payne)
6. 08:19 PM - Ready to start project (Jimbo)
7. 08:33 PM - Re: Ready to start project (Craig Payne)
8. 08:42 PM - Re: Ready to start project (LHusky@aol.com)
9. 09:09 PM - Re: Ready to start project (Jimbo)
10. 10:38 PM - Re: Ready to start project (Paul Mulwitz)
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| Subject: | Re: Zenith-List Digest: 24 Msgs - 03/22/06 |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: hawk172@webtv.net
Is there anyone in the up state New York area building or flying a 601
that would be willing to let me visit them?
I live near Ithaca.
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| Subject: | Re: Actual serious question |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Tommy Walker" <twalker@cableone.net>
<List, A friend asked as to the maximum number of washers on an AN bolt.
Since I'm at the office, no printed references at hand, here goes..... My
rememberance of the requirements: two maximum He thinks it is three washers
maximum.
Zed,
I think, the washer sequence goes:
1 washer under the nut
2 washers under the nut
3=2 washers under the nut, one under the bolt head.
Tommy Walker in Alabama
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| Subject: | Ailerons and roll bars |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Bill+Rose" <naumuk@alltel.net>
Bill-
Every little bit helps, if only in lower fuel usage over time.
Rearranging the location of accessories I spoke of is no big job, and in my
case, it's a done deal.
Here's a question for you and everyone else out there. Do you have a
roll bar, or are there plans for one? If you had to make an emergency
landing in a plowed field (Plenty of those around here) you might do a
beautiful job but still turn turtle at the last minute. In that case, you'd
better be able to duck REAL low REAL fast, because the only thing between
your head and the ground is a couple millimeters of canopy and the rudder.
Know all about the race-Yugo. Used to be part owner of a 1971 C-150.
The other
Bill
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| Subject: | Re: Ailerons and roll bars |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: LarryMcFarland <larry@macsmachine.com>
Bill,
The only Zenith I've seen inverted was one that was tied down outside
in really bad weather.
Have yet to see a 601 that's gone gear up in any landing. Not to say
it can't happen, but
the frequency of this occurring seems to be quite low. This roll bar
issue was beat on rather
hard a year or more ago. There were no satisfactory solutions
advanced then either.
Larry McFarland - 601hds at www.macsmachine.com
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>--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Bill+Rose" <naumuk@alltel.net>
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> Every little bit helps, if only in lower fuel usage over time.
>Rearranging the location of accessories I spoke of is no big job, and in my
>case, it's a done deal.
> Here's a question for you and everyone else out there. Do you have a
>roll bar, or are there plans for one? If you had to make an emergency
>landing in a plowed field (Plenty of those around here) you might do a
>beautiful job but still turn turtle at the last minute. In that case, you'd
>better be able to duck REAL low REAL fast, because the only thing between
>your head and the ground is a couple millimeters of canopy and the rudder.
> Know all about the race-Yugo. Used to be part owner of a 1971 C-150.
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| Subject: | Ailerons and roll bars |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Craig Payne" <craig@craigandjean.com>
"The only Zenith I've seen inverted was one that was tied down outside in
really bad weather."
http://www.ch601.org/stories.htm
-- Craig
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| Subject: | Ready to start project |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Jimbo <jimandmandy@yahoo.com>
Hello,
Ive been lurking here a while and notice alomost all
the current projects are 601XLs. I got a demo flight
in the factory one at Camarillo last year. I was also
given a demo flight in a Jabiru 3300 powered Sonex
taildragger by one of the members of my EAA chapter,
96 at CPM. I am a 200hr private pilot, most time in
152's and some in the Katana. From that experience and
for other reasons, I will not own a Rotax engine.
The bottom line is that after much study I am ready to
buy plans for the tri-gear 601HD and my current engine
choice is Corvair. Is anyone else here building or
flying this same combination?
Sonex - best performance for the buck, but not as
comfortable or stable for long flights or insurable
(per Avemco).
601XL - More complex, heavier and more costly.
601HD - Just right.
Before I order plans, opinions from this group,
please.
Jim
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| Subject: | Ready to start project |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Craig Payne" <craig@craigandjean.com>
Ask this on the Corvair list too. There may be an HD/Corvair owner who
monitors that list but not this one. I'm sticking a Corvair engine on the
front of my XL but I think (others can correct me) that most or all of the
components William Wynne has developed for the XL will also work on the HD.
BTW - I thought the HDS was an "improved" HD. What made you choose one over
the other?
-- Craig
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| Subject: | Re: Ready to start project |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: LHusky@aol.com
Jim, Congrats on getting ready to start. I did a lot of research on all the
Zenith models and I chose to build the XL from plans. I have never worked
with metal before, so this was a big ordeal for me. I am halfway through the
tail section and find that this is not that difficult. When I started, I was
worried that I could not do this, but now, I am confident that I can. The
XL is just a better choice for me. I like the landing gear much more than the
HD. Make sure you have a band saw and a drill press. You dont need them,
but they sure help a lot. Also, a good belt/disc sander is also helpful. I
would also suggest a pneumatic riveter. I have both the hand and pneumatic.
Good luck and let me know if you need anything.
Larry Husky
Finsihing tail
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| Subject: | Ready to start project |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Jimbo <jimandmandy@yahoo.com>
--- Craig Payne <craig@craigandjean.com> wrote:
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Craig Payne"
> <craig@craigandjean.com>
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> BTW - I thought the HDS was an "improved" HD. What
> made you choose one over
> the other?
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> -- Craig
The HDS model is not LSA due to the higher speeds, top
and stall. I think the XL has flaps because of the
slight taper and different airfoil. Wing tanks and
flaps I want to avoid to make trailering the aircraft
more practical due to fewer things to connect and
disconnect. I am concerned a little about fuel CG with
the header tank, but a Corvair is supposed to be no
heavier than a Rotax or Subaru.
Jim
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| Subject: | Re: Ready to start project |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Paul Mulwitz <p.mulwitz@worldnet.att.net>
Hi Jim,
I think the most important question in your model choice is what your
own goals are. If your goal is to build a plane that has the flight
characteristics of a trainer and minimize your engine cost then your
HD/Corvair combination sounds like it might be a good one. On the
other hand if you want maximum Light Sport Plane performance along
with maximum climb and lightest weight then I think an XL with Jabiru
3300 might be a good choice. Of course. the second combination will
cost a lot more than the first one.
I think the only way to make the ideal choice is to first make as
many clear decisions as possible about your own wishes. Then it is a
lot easier to choose which model or engine will best meet your own needs.
Have fun,
Paul
XL wings -- currently planning to use Jab - 3300, but still at least
6 months away from a final decision.
>Ive been lurking here a while and notice alomost all
>the current projects are 601XLs. I got a demo flight
>in the factory one at Camarillo last year. I was also
>given a demo flight in a Jabiru 3300 powered Sonex
>taildragger by one of the members of my EAA chapter,
>96 at CPM. I am a 200hr private pilot, most time in
>152's and some in the Katana. From that experience and
>for other reasons, I will not own a Rotax engine.
>
>The bottom line is that after much study I am ready to
>buy plans for the tri-gear 601HD and my current engine
>choice is Corvair. Is anyone else here building or
>flying this same combination?
>
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