---------------------------------------------------------- Zenith-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Mon 04/03/06: 28 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 04:17 AM - Re: Olfa Knife (Southern Reflections) 2. 04:29 AM - Franklin engines (Michel Therrien) 3. 04:29 AM - Re: Rivets (steveadams) 4. 08:31 AM - 601XL First Ride (JAPhillipsGA@aol.com) 5. 08:50 AM - Re: 601XL First Ride (Hinde, Frank George (Corvallis)) 6. 10:13 AM - remove me (Walter Hollingsworth) 7. 11:33 AM - Glue for rubber trim on canopy (Rick Tedford) 8. 12:05 PM - Re: Glue for rubber trim on canopy (john H) 9. 12:05 PM - Re: Glue for rubber trim on canopy (Bryan Martin) 10. 12:35 PM - Re: Glue for rubber trim on canopy (Aaron Gustafson) 11. 01:18 PM - Re: Zenith-List Digest: Rookies Welding Tanks (Condon, Philip M.) 12. 02:31 PM - Re: Re: Gas Welding for Rookies (N5SL) 13. 03:12 PM - tires (Hinde, Frank George (Corvallis)) 14. 03:16 PM - Cortec 373 (Gdascomb@aol.com) 15. 04:20 PM - Re: Re: Zenith-List Digest: Rookies Welding Tanks (Dave Ruddiman) 16. 04:28 PM - Re: Re: Gas Welding for Rookies (Dave) 17. 04:46 PM - Heart attack averted (Bill Naumuk) 18. 06:05 PM - Re: tires (Kelly Meiste) 19. 06:05 PM - Re: Rivets (Roberto Ap. Rodrigues de Brito) 20. 07:02 PM - Re: tires (Don Walker) 21. 07:14 PM - Re: Re: Zenith-List Digest: Rookies Welding Tanks (Hinde, Frank George (Corvallis)) 22. 07:16 PM - Re: tires (Hinde, Frank George (Corvallis)) 23. 07:54 PM - Mazda engine from MX3 - 6 CYL, 1.8 L. 140HP (Christian Tremblay) 24. 08:17 PM - Re: Zenith Builders & Owners BBQ (zodie rocket) 25. 10:40 PM - Re: Franklin engines (Gary Gower) 26. 11:04 PM - Visiting San Antonio and Houston. (Gary Gower) 27. 11:32 PM - Re: Mazda engine from MX3 - 6 CYL, 1.8 L. 140HP (Gary Gower) 28. 11:41 PM - Re: Rivets (Gary Gower) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 04:17:38 AM PST US From: "Southern Reflections" Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Olfa Knife --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Southern Reflections" If, in your area, you have a glass business, there is a supplier that we all use C.R. Laurence Co. whereby they sell the quality stainless steel OLFA knives (product #SVR-1) and blade refills are available. These are a much improved quality as they are a tool for glass businesses. ----- Original Message ----- From: Sent: Sunday, April 02, 2006 11:30 PM Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Olfa Knife > --> Zenith-List message posted by: JohnDRead@aol.com > > Try Office Max or Office Depot. > > > ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 04:29:18 AM PST US From: Michel Therrien Subject: Zenith-List: Franklin engines --> Zenith-List message posted by: Michel Therrien Gooood morning all! I would like to know. Did any one here purchased or installed a Franklin engine (4A-235-B31) on a CH601? Or do you know anyone that did? Michel do not archive ---------------------------- Michel Therrien CH601-HD, C-GZGQ http://mthobby.pcperfect.com/ch601 http://www.zenithair.com/bldrlist/profiles/mthobby http://pages.infinit.net/mthobby ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 04:29:18 AM PST US Subject: Zenith-List: Re: Rivets From: "steveadams" --> Zenith-List message posted by: "steveadams" I don't know why you would want to, but I don't see any reason you couldn't use bucked rivets. I'm not an engineer, but I would be a little cautious installing the rivets flush with countersinking. The tensile strength of the joint could be affected. The tensile strength may be limited as much by the thin skins we use as by the actual rivet strength, so a bucked flush rivet may be no stronger than a pulled flush rivet in tension. It may even be weaker than a domed pulled rivet. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=26227#26227 ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 08:31:32 AM PST US From: JAPhillipsGA@aol.com Subject: Zenith-List: 601XL First Ride --> Zenith-List message posted by: JAPhillipsGA@aol.com Dear Thread Friends, had a great day Sunday. First, weather was good, gas tanks full and winds blowing down the runway. My granddaughter, Catfish Ivy, 10 years old, took her first flight and it was a thrill. She had helped me regularly for three years of building, but had never had the chance to fly. Fact is she had never even been to an airport before. We took off, zipped to 4,000 ft. and after a couple minutes seeing how to control the stick she flew around for almost an hour. She has a great feel for the plane and I must say she was more sure of herself than my Wife who has flown with me for many years. Yes, I was real proud of that little girl and I bragged big time on her. She was blushing bright from all the attention. Well, I hope to meet a bunch of you fine fellows at the S n F Bar B Q. You can meet Catfish as well. Best regards, Bill of Georgia 601XL-3300 ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 08:50:43 AM PST US Subject: RE: Zenith-List: 601XL First Ride From: "Hinde, Frank George (Corvallis)" --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Hinde, Frank George (Corvallis)" Excellent, Maybe you have encouraged a future female aviator there Bill. I can certainly understand your pride. Good job! Frank 601HDS 394 hours -----Original Message----- From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of JAPhillipsGA@aol.com Sent: Monday, April 03, 2006 8:24 AM Subject: Zenith-List: 601XL First Ride --> Zenith-List message posted by: JAPhillipsGA@aol.com Dear Thread Friends, had a great day Sunday. First, weather was good, gas tanks full and winds blowing down the runway. My granddaughter, Catfish Ivy, 10 years old, took her first flight and it was a thrill. She had helped me regularly for three years of building, but had never had the chance to fly. Fact is she had never even been to an airport before. We took off, zipped to 4,000 ft. and after a couple minutes seeing how to control the stick she flew around for almost an hour. She has a great feel for the plane and I must say she was more sure of herself than my Wife who has flown with me for many years. Yes, I was real proud of that little girl and I bragged big time on her. She was blushing bright from all the attention. Well, I hope to meet a bunch of you fine fellows at the S n F Bar B Q. You can meet Catfish as well. Best regards, Bill of Georgia 601XL-3300 ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 10:13:31 AM PST US From: Walter Hollingsworth Subject: Zenith-List: remove me --> Zenith-List message posted by: Walter Hollingsworth Please remove me from your list ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 11:33:09 AM PST US From: "Rick Tedford" Subject: Zenith-List: Glue for rubber trim on canopy --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Rick Tedford" Hello All : Can anyone recommend a method of making the trim stay on the canopy ? I have had a dickens of a time with trying to keep same on the canopy . All suggestions will be appreciated . ( I have had no success with the glue recommende by ZAC ) Regards to all Rick Tedford ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 12:05:53 PM PST US From: "john H" Subject: RE: Zenith-List: Glue for rubber trim on canopy --> Zenith-List message posted by: "john H" Hi Rick I used clear silicone and it has worked fine. John >From: "Rick Tedford" >To: >Subject: Zenith-List: Glue for rubber trim on canopy >Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2006 14:27:32 -0400 > >--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Rick Tedford" > > >Hello All : Can anyone recommend a method of making the trim stay on the >canopy ? I have had a dickens of a time with trying to keep same on the >canopy . >All suggestions will be appreciated . ( I have had no success with the glue >recommende by ZAC ) > >Regards to all >Rick Tedford > > ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 12:05:53 PM PST US Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Glue for rubber trim on canopy From: Bryan Martin --> Zenith-List message posted by: Bryan Martin 3M weatherstrip adhesive. Many hardware or auto parts stores carry it. -- Bryan Martin N61BM, CH 601 XL, Stratus Subaru. do not archive. on 4/3/06 2:27 PM, Rick Tedford at rick.tedford@sympatico.ca wrote: > --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Rick Tedford" > > Hello All : Can anyone recommend a method of making the trim stay on the > canopy ? I have had a dickens of a time with trying to keep same on the canopy > . > All suggestions will be appreciated . ( I have had no success with the glue > recommende by ZAC ) > > Regards to all > Rick Tedford ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 12:35:50 PM PST US From: "Aaron Gustafson" Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Glue for rubber trim on canopy --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Aaron Gustafson" The best stuff I've found is the stuff Ford sells. Aaron do not archive ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 01:18:26 PM PST US Subject: Zenith-List: RE: Zenith-List Digest: Rookies Welding Tanks From: "Condon, Philip M." --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Condon, Philip M." http://www.tinmantech.com/html/kent_white.php Here is Kent White's web site. I purchased his material 10 years ago and have become a gas welder using his learning techniques. I now weld engine mounts, weldments and sub assemblies and the like with the little Meco Kent sells. Its more of a hobby and to prove to my self that welding can be done at home. Aluminum welding with gas can be done...I practice with coke and beer cans and have made more then a handful of aircraft fuel tanks over the years. For me it was common sense, practice and the right tools (not expensive at all). Last year, Kit Planes did a article on gas welding and used the same torch (Meco)that Kent sells (get the tip kit and carrying fish) http://www.tinmantech.com/html/meco_midget_torch.php BTW, this little torch can weld up to 1/2 inch with no problem. Using the N1 & N2 tips, I weld 4130 chrome molly tubing and play weld the coke cans with the N-1 tip. (I used the N-5 tip for the 1/2 inch project last year....) ....................................................................... .......................................... Rookies Welding Tanks ... --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Doug Eatman" Thanks for the post Martin! I wanted to make my own tanks so I purchased the "Gas welding aluminum" video by Kent White (since I already have a torch that I'm pretty confident with) but the TIG guys here in the University of Florida machine shop laughed at me so I put that task off. I figured it only looked doable in the video because Kent White has supernatural powers when it comes to aluminum. Your post has changed my mind on that, and since my primary objective for the build is learning, I'm going to give gas welding my tanks a shot. Every now and then an encouraging post like yours makes reading this list really worthwhile! Worst I can do is mess up some aluminum, and wasted material is often money well spent just because of the experience gained. Do not archive Douglas Eatman 601XL/Corvair ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 02:31:22 PM PST US From: N5SL Subject: Re: Zenith-List: RE: Gas Welding for Rookies --> Zenith-List message posted by: N5SL As the author of the Kitplanes article, parts I and II (mentioned below), I highly recommend the Meco Midget torch. I was using it last weekend thinking how glad I was that I learned to gas weld. All of my experience has been on thin steel, but I plan to learn to weld thin aluminum with the torch soon. I ordered the flux and filler rods from Tinmantech.com but they have been gathering dust mostly. For anybody that's interested, part II of my article was about the technique of welding with oxy/acet. and I posted it here: http://www.cooknwithgas.com/WeldingPart2.pdf Part I was about gathering the bottles, goggles, etc. and I don't think I scanned it. In following this thread I saw no mention of goggles for aluminum welding. I did a lot of research on this and it seems that you need blue goggles to filter out the orange flame that can obscure the puddle when aluminum welding. I saw this the one time I tried it with regular goggles. I found some cobalt blue goggles that have a gold tint on the front to protect your eyes after an extensive internet search a few years ago. I can't find the link right now so I can't post the location. Apparently the cobalt blue goggles that smelters use is not approved for aluminum welding because it damages your eyes. Something to keep in mind. Happy Building, Scott Laughlin www.cooknwithgas.com Sun-N Fun Bound! --- "Condon, Philip M." wrote: > http://www.tinmantech.com/html/kent_white.php Last year, > Kit Planes did a article on gas welding and used the > same torch > (Meco)that Kent sells (get the tip kit and carrying > fish) > http://www.tinmantech.com/html/meco_midget_torch.php ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 03:12:44 PM PST US Subject: Zenith-List: tires From: "Hinde, Frank George (Corvallis)" --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Hinde, Frank George (Corvallis)" Can someone remind me of the link to get the 8" trailer tires used on the 601 HD(s) series. I'm about to sell my plane and I think the mains are gtting a little thin. Thanks Frank Do not archive ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 03:16:01 PM PST US From: Gdascomb@aol.com Subject: Zenith-List: Cortec 373 --> Zenith-List message posted by: Gdascomb@aol.com After using Cortec 373 under all my riveted surfaces for a year or so, I think I discovered a hidden benefit .........It's just sticky enough that if all my rivets somehow fall out, this stuff is going to hold the plane together! How's that for a safety feature? (No Gracy....I'm only kidding) George 701 N701GD ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 04:20:20 PM PST US From: "Dave Ruddiman" Subject: Re: Zenith-List: RE: Zenith-List Digest: Rookies Welding Tanks --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Dave Ruddiman" All this talk of welding your own tanks has got me all fired up to try it myself. I'm building an 801. Where do I start. Are there plans or do I just build them to fit the hole. I plan on using 2 in each wing. I don't know a thing about it. I can gas weld OK. But that's about it. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. I won't need them until may be Winter or Spring, so I have plenty of time. Dave in Salem ----- Original Message ----- From: "Condon, Philip M." Sent: Monday, April 03, 2006 1:15 PM Subject: Zenith-List: RE: Zenith-List Digest: Rookies Welding Tanks > --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Condon, Philip M." > > > http://www.tinmantech.com/html/kent_white.php > > Here is Kent White's web site. I purchased his material 10 years ago > and have become a gas welder using his learning techniques. I now weld > engine mounts, weldments and sub assemblies and the like with the > little Meco Kent sells. Its more of a hobby and to prove to my self > that welding can be done at home. Aluminum welding with gas can be > done...I practice with coke and beer cans and have made more then a > handful of aircraft fuel tanks over the years. For me it was common > sense, practice and the right tools (not expensive at all). Last year, > Kit Planes did a article on gas welding and used the same torch > (Meco)that Kent sells (get the tip kit and carrying fish) > http://www.tinmantech.com/html/meco_midget_torch.php > > BTW, this little torch can weld up to 1/2 inch with no problem. Using > the N1 & N2 tips, I weld 4130 chrome molly tubing and play weld the > coke cans with the N-1 tip. (I used the N-5 tip for the 1/2 inch > project last year....) > > ....................................................................... > .......................................... > > Rookies Welding Tanks ... > > --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Doug Eatman" > > Thanks for the post Martin! > > I wanted to make my own tanks so I purchased the "Gas welding aluminum" > > video by Kent White (since I already have a torch that I'm pretty > confident > with) but the TIG guys here in the University of Florida machine shop > laughed at me so I put that task off. I figured it only looked doable > in > the video because Kent White has supernatural powers when it comes to > aluminum. > > Your post has changed my mind on that, and since my primary objective > for > the build is learning, I'm going to give gas welding my tanks a shot. > Every > now and then an encouraging post like yours makes reading this list > really > worthwhile! Worst I can do is mess up some aluminum, and wasted > material is > often money well spent just because of the experience gained. > > Do not archive > Douglas Eatman > 601XL/Corvair > > > ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 04:28:46 PM PST US From: "Dave" Subject: RE: Zenith-List: RE: Gas Welding for Rookies --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Dave" I went through the Gas Welding E.A.A. seminar last January and the instructor specifically mentioned that there is nothing about gas welding light that can damage your eyes. The darker lens and special color lens is strictly for allowing you to see the puddle and how the material is reacting to the flame. Tig welding is another story as is any electric welding. Dave And I highly recommend taking the course. I welded aluminum too but you don't want any aluminum I welded in your plane. -----Original Message----- Behalf Of N5SL Sent: Monday, April 03, 2006 4:26 PM Subject: Re: Zenith-List: RE: Gas Welding for Rookies --> Zenith-List message posted by: N5SL In following this thread I saw no mention of goggles for aluminum welding. I did a lot of research on this and it seems that you need blue goggles to filter out the orange flame that can obscure the puddle when aluminum welding. I saw this the one time I tried it with regular goggles. I found some cobalt blue goggles that have a gold tint on the front to protect your eyes after an extensive internet search a few years ago. I can't find the link right now so I can't post the location. Apparently the cobalt blue goggles that smelters use is not approved for aluminum welding because it damages your eyes. Something to keep in mind. ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 04:46:54 PM PST US From: "Bill Naumuk" Subject: Zenith-List: Heart attack averted --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Bill Naumuk" All- I've had a lot of off-list questions about the latest bump in the road, and rather than try to answer them individually, here goes- get in for a long story! This was a case where there was no glaring mistakes that jump out and grab your eye until it seems that it's too late. It's known as cumulative error. A combination of factory error, then procedural error, finally doubled by a visit from Mr. Murphy. From the HDS builder's manual for the center wing- "Clamp the L Angle at STA. 900 and 1014 over the pre-drilled holes in the Spar caps. Next clamp the (Nose) rib to the L Angle and check the alignment of the pre-drilled holes in the Spar Web with the Rib flange. Back drill with #20." When I did this, the web holes were off center with the starboard gear inboard nose rib flanges (The web holes were off by 3mm) but still legal. We've all been there. That's great for the the nose ribs, but your rear gear ribs are locked in with no slack. When I started working with the rear ribs, I found that the A6 holes barely showed contact with the inboard edge of the doubler. The gear rib alignment checked out, so I measured the A6 holes. The starboard side was right on the money by my calculations, but the port was inboard by 7mm. I triple checked everything, then decided my best course of action was to drill holes to the centerline of the port doublers, and contacted Zenith as to how best fill the extra holes. Moving back around to the nose side, I made nose rib adjustments TO THE WRONG SET OF HOLES, doubling the error. It wasn't until I set the rear bottom skin, straigthening up all the ribs until they were square and perpendicular, that the problem was noticable. This is why my picture looks so hideous. Bottom line- I'll have 2 sets of A6s in the inboard gear rib flanges, and will make .025 doubler strips for both front and back of the affected web flange, but we're back on the road. Amazing how two holes can damn near ruin the next couple of months! Bill ________________________________ Message 18 ____________________________________ Time: 06:05:19 PM PST US From: "Kelly Meiste" Subject: Re: Zenith-List: tires --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Kelly Meiste" Frank, I seen the same ZAC supplied trailer tires I had in my kit at my local Wal Mart store (auto section). Kelly > Can someone remind me of the link to get the 8" trailer tires used on > the 601 HD(s) series. > > I'm about to sell my plane and I think the mains are gtting a little > thin. > > Thanks > > Frank > > Do not archive ________________________________ Message 19 ____________________________________ Time: 06:05:20 PM PST US From: "Roberto Ap. Rodrigues de Brito" Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Rivets --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Roberto Ap. Rodrigues de Brito" Hi Murray, I'm building a Zodiac Xl 601 all with flush head rivets. It's hard, but it's getting beautiful. The hardest thing was the body and the tail. The wing were easier. I built a dimple machine and it helped me a lot. I'll send you some pictures of teh Zodiac. Best regards, Roberto Brito S=E3o Paulo -- Brazil Zodiac XL 601--Jab 3300 serial number 6096 -70% Stol Ch 701 serial number 6342 ________________________________ Message 20 ____________________________________ Time: 07:02:04 PM PST US From: "Don Walker" Subject: Re: Zenith-List: tires --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Don Walker" Frank, The Wal-Mart tires are Carlisle tires. they are load range C, which is a little heavier than the ones ZAC supplied...about $9 a tire. I still have them on mine. don ----- Original Message ----- From: Kelly Meiste To: zenith-list@matronics.com Sent: Monday, April 03, 2006 8:04 PM Subject: Re: Zenith-List: tires --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Kelly Meiste" > Frank, I seen the same ZAC supplied trailer tires I had in my kit at my local Wal Mart store (auto section). Kelly > Can someone remind me of the link to get the 8" trailer tires used on > the 601 HD(s) series. > > I'm about to sell my plane and I think the mains are gtting a little > thin. > > Thanks > > Frank > > Do not archive ________________________________ Message 21 ____________________________________ Time: 07:14:50 PM PST US Subject: RE: Zenith-List: RE: Zenith-List Digest: Rookies Welding Tanks From: "Hinde, Frank George (Corvallis)" --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Hinde, Frank George (Corvallis)" Ya I can gas weld OK too...and blow hundreds of holes in thin sheet aluminium...come to think of it I can do that with the TIG welder as well! Go blow a few holes then order a quart of proseal...:) Frank Do not archive -----Original Message----- From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dave Ruddiman Sent: Monday, April 03, 2006 4:14 PM Subject: Re: Zenith-List: RE: Zenith-List Digest: Rookies Welding Tanks --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Dave Ruddiman" --> All this talk of welding your own tanks has got me all fired up to try it myself. I'm building an 801. Where do I start. Are there plans or do I just build them to fit the hole. I plan on using 2 in each wing. I don't know a thing about it. I can gas weld OK. But that's about it. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. I won't need them until may be Winter or Spring, so I have plenty of time. Dave in Salem ----- Original Message ----- From: "Condon, Philip M." Sent: Monday, April 03, 2006 1:15 PM Subject: Zenith-List: RE: Zenith-List Digest: Rookies Welding Tanks > --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Condon, Philip M." > > > http://www.tinmantech.com/html/kent_white.php > > Here is Kent White's web site. I purchased his material 10 years ago > and have become a gas welder using his learning techniques. I now weld > engine mounts, weldments and sub assemblies and the like with the > little Meco Kent sells. Its more of a hobby and to prove to my self > that welding can be done at home. Aluminum welding with gas can be > done...I practice with coke and beer cans and have made more then a > handful of aircraft fuel tanks over the years. For me it was common > sense, practice and the right tools (not expensive at all). Last year, > Kit Planes did a article on gas welding and used the same torch > (Meco)that Kent sells (get the tip kit and carrying fish) > http://www.tinmantech.com/html/meco_midget_torch.php > > BTW, this little torch can weld up to 1/2 inch with no problem. Using > the N1 & N2 tips, I weld 4130 chrome molly tubing and play weld the > coke cans with the N-1 tip. (I used the N-5 tip for the 1/2 inch > project last year....) > > ....................................................................... > .......................................... > > Rookies Welding Tanks ... > > --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Doug Eatman" > > Thanks for the post Martin! > > I wanted to make my own tanks so I purchased the "Gas welding aluminum" > > video by Kent White (since I already have a torch that I'm pretty > confident > with) but the TIG guys here in the University of Florida machine shop > laughed at me so I put that task off. I figured it only looked doable > in > the video because Kent White has supernatural powers when it comes to > aluminum. > > Your post has changed my mind on that, and since my primary objective > for > the build is learning, I'm going to give gas welding my tanks a shot. > Every > now and then an encouraging post like yours makes reading this list > really > worthwhile! Worst I can do is mess up some aluminum, and wasted > material is > often money well spent just because of the experience gained. > > Do not archive > Douglas Eatman > 601XL/Corvair > > > ________________________________ Message 22 ____________________________________ Time: 07:16:17 PM PST US Subject: RE: Zenith-List: tires From: "Hinde, Frank George (Corvallis)" --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Hinde, Frank George (Corvallis)" Cool...Now I have friend that lives just down the road from the "Local" Walmart some 30 miles away...OK so if I tell him to get 8 by X Carlisle tires load range C...will that specify them adequately? What is X by the way...Just got back from doing part of the annual and forgot to look! Thanks Frank Do not archive -----Original Message----- From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Don Walker Sent: Monday, April 03, 2006 6:58 PM Subject: Re: Zenith-List: tires --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Don Walker" Frank, The Wal-Mart tires are Carlisle tires. they are load range C, which is a little heavier than the ones ZAC supplied...about $9 a tire. I still have them on mine. don ----- Original Message ----- From: Kelly Meiste To: zenith-list@matronics.com Sent: Monday, April 03, 2006 8:04 PM Subject: Re: Zenith-List: tires --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Kelly Meiste" > Frank, I seen the same ZAC supplied trailer tires I had in my kit at my local Wal Mart store (auto section). Kelly > Can someone remind me of the link to get the 8" trailer tires used on > the 601 HD(s) series. > > I'm about to sell my plane and I think the mains are gtting a little > thin. > > Thanks > > Frank > > Do not archive ________________________________ Message 23 ____________________________________ Time: 07:54:50 PM PST US From: Christian Tremblay Subject: Zenith-List: Mazda engine from MX3 - 6 CYL, 1.8 L. 140HP --> Zenith-List message posted by: Christian Tremblay Hi, Somebody can tell me if this engine is suitable for aviation? Mazda engine from MX3 - 6 CYL, 1.8 L. 140HP Thanks, Christian T. ________________________________ Message 24 ____________________________________ Time: 08:17:37 PM PST US From: "zodie rocket" Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Zenith Builders & Owners BBQ --> Zenith-List message posted by: "zodie rocket" you are more then welcome to come with company. Mark ----- Original Message ----- From: "N5SL" Sent: Sunday, April 02, 2006 10:37 PM Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Zenith Builders & Owners BBQ > --> Zenith-List message posted by: N5SL > > Hi Mark: > > Can I bring two guests? If not I'll just eat 1/3rd of > a burger and share. > > Looking forward to seeing you and David. > > Scott Laughlin > > --- Zodie Rocket wrote: > > > --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Zodie Rocket" > > > > > > Hi Group, this is it, sign up is closed and I=92m > > heading out the door for > > Sun-N-Fun! The Zenith Builders cook out is on > > Thursday April 6. I have > > just counted everyone who sent me an E-Mail and we > > are presently at 146 > > people planning to attend. Add to that all the > > builders who are not > > online that will show up at the show and we are > > poised to not only be > > the largest event for Zenith builders and owners but > > possibly the > > largest event of any group of aviation enthusiasts. > > If you have not yet > > sent me an E-Mail then let me know at the Zenith > > booth, but only if you > > have not sent me an E-Mail previously or I will get > > confused. I will be > > buying all the food on Wed. We could use some > > deserts, pop and salads if > > you wish to bring something we will be throwing on > > the burgers and dogs > > plus this year were going to add wings to the menu, > > whoever brought the > > strawberries last year, I hope your able to do it > > again! They were > > really good. I would like to thank Jabiru USA, > > Homebuilthelp.com and > > Sensornetics for there donations towards this event. > > David, Jon, Rick > > and Myself will be donating the rest to ensure that > > you all have a great > > time. > > Guys & Gals this event is for you! It is not a > > Zenith sponsored event > > but is one started by builders for builders. There > > are no formal name > > tags this year either. Have fun, come out to the > > show and spend an > > Evening with Chris Heintz and Gang! > > > > > > Mark Townsend Alma, Ontario > > Zodiac 601XL C-GOXL, CH701 just started > > HYPERLINK "http://www.ch601.org"www.ch601.org / > > HYPERLINK > > "http://www.ch701.com"www.ch701.com/ HYPERLINK > > "http://www.Osprey2.com"www.Osprey2.com > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > browse > > Subscriptions page, > > FAQ, > > http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Zenith-List > > > > > > Admin. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > protection around > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 25 ____________________________________ Time: 10:40:49 PM PST US From: Gary Gower Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Franklin engines --> Zenith-List message posted by: Gary Gower Hello Michel, No, not here, but will like to know the installed weight (wood prop) and the final price, with all needed accesories. Off course all First Hand experience will be of great value.. Anything you find out, will be appreciated by the list. Saludos Gary Gower Flying from Chapala, Mexico Building a 601 XL (still no final engine choice). Michel Therrien wrote: --> Zenith-List message posted by: Michel Therrien Gooood morning all! I would like to know. Did any one here purchased or installed a Franklin engine (4A-235-B31) on a CH601? Or do you know anyone that did? Michel do not archive ---------------------------- Michel Therrien CH601-HD, C-GZGQ http://mthobby.pcperfect.com/ch601 http://www.zenithair.com/bldrlist/profiles/mthobby http://pages.infinit.net/mthobby --------------------------------- ________________________________ Message 26 ____________________________________ Time: 11:04:57 PM PST US From: Gary Gower Subject: Zenith-List: Visiting San Antonio and Houston. --> Zenith-List message posted by: Gary Gower Dear Builders and Pilots Friends, I am going by car next week in a short family vacation trip: Houston ( 12, 13, 14 and 15) including a little 2 day bussiness trip to San Antonio (10 and 11). Yes same week. Probably I can arrange a couple of hours for myself in both cities to see some airplanes and buy some tools :-) I will like very much to see and visit at least one project or finished airplane (701 or XL) in this areas and take a few photos. I will appreciate if you think possible to send me any phone number and/or address (off list), I am living this Thursday early in the morning. Probably can find any address, I have a Street Pilot III GPS... "Turn left", Turn right", "Recalculating route" :-) :-) Last time in Houston was about 4 years ago. Saludos Gary Gower Driving from Guadalajara, Mexico. Do not archive. --------------------------------- ________________________________ Message 27 ____________________________________ Time: 11:32:30 PM PST US From: Gary Gower Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Mazda engine from MX3 - 6 CYL, 1.8 L. 140HP --> Zenith-List message posted by: Gary Gower Hello Christian, I dont know if Mr. Jaime Alexander is located near you, Canada is big. But he has lots of experience with auto conversions. Visit his page and I think he can gladly advise you. http://www.nessaaircraft.net/ Saludos Gary Gower. Flying from Chapala, Mexico, Do not archive Christian Tremblay wrote: --> Zenith-List message posted by: Christian Tremblay Hi, Somebody can tell me if this engine is suitable for aviation? Mazda engine from MX3 - 6 CYL, 1.8 L. 140HP Thanks, Christian T. --------------------------------- ________________________________ Message 28 ____________________________________ Time: 11:41:24 PM PST US From: Gary Gower Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Rivets --> Zenith-List message posted by: Gary Gower Hi Roberto, Please send a couple to http://www.matronics.com/photoshare/ I will be glad to see your work. Saludos Gary Gower Flying from Chapala, Mexico. Do not archive. "Roberto Ap. Rodrigues de Brito" wrote: --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Roberto Ap. Rodrigues de Brito" Hi Murray, I'm building a Zodiac Xl 601 all with flush head rivets. It's hard, but it's getting beautiful. The hardest thing was the body and the tail. The wing were easier. I built a dimple machine and it helped me a lot. I'll send you some pictures of teh Zodiac. Best regards, Roberto Brito S=E3o Paulo -- Brazil Zodiac XL 601--Jab 3300 serial number 6096 -70% Stol Ch 701 serial number 6342 ---------------------------------