Today's Message Index:
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1. 04:55 AM - Re: Heart attack averted (John Flavin)
2. 06:25 AM - Jabiru 5100A (Dave Ruddiman)
3. 06:42 AM - Re: Aluminum Welding for Rookies ... (Bima, Martin)
4. 08:21 AM - Re: Re: Aluminum Welding for Rookies ... (N5SL)
5. 08:28 AM - Blind hole deburrer (Aaron Gustafson)
6. 10:01 AM - Re: tires (Hinde, Frank George (Corvallis))
7. 11:59 AM - Re: tires (Hinde, Frank George (Corvallis))
8. 12:22 PM - Re: tires (Hinde, Frank George (Corvallis))
9. 01:51 PM - ELT and Transponder/Altimeter certification (Grant Corriveau)
10. 02:05 PM - Re: ELT and Transponder/Altimeter certification (Hinde, Frank George (Corvallis))
11. 02:47 PM - Re: Glue for rubber trim on canopy (JAPhillipsGA@aol.com)
12. 03:15 PM - Re: Heart attack averted (Bill Naumuk)
13. 03:45 PM - Re: tires (Leo Gates)
14. 03:48 PM - Re: Glue for rubber trim on canopy (Leo Gates)
15. 04:23 PM - Re: Glue for rubber trim on canopy (Rick Tedford)
16. 06:37 PM - Re: tires (Don Walker)
17. 07:18 PM - Re: ELT and Transponder/Altimeter certification (Michel Therrien)
18. 08:03 PM - Re: ELT and Transponder/Altimeter certification (Dave)
19. 08:37 PM - Re: ELT and Transponder/Altimeter certification (Hinde, Frank George (Corvallis))
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| Subject: | Re: Heart attack averted |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "John Flavin" <jf701@bellsouth.net>
"... Bottom line- I'll have 2 sets of A6s in the inboard gear rib flanges, and
will make .025 doubler strips for both front and back of the affected web flange,
but we're back on the road. Amazing how two holes can damn near ruin
the next couple of months!"
Bill:
The two truth-isms that I've learned during my project (I think from this same
list server ) are
"The best measure of a builder's ability is not is his ability to avoid mistakes
but rather his ability to gracefully recover from them."
and
"Perfectionists build, and Builders fly".
John Flavin
CH701 60%, Raleigh, NC (soon to be Overland Park, KS)
do not archive
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Dave Ruddiman" <pacificpainting@comcast.net>
Does anyone have any experience with the 180HP Jabiru 5100A? Seems like it could
be a possibility for my 801. I don't know anything more than what I have read
on their website. Just checking all possibilities.
Dave in Salem
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| Subject: | RE: Aluminum Welding for Rookies ... |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Bima, Martin" <mbima@hydro.mb.ca>
(THIS IS RATHER LONG AND BORING FOR THE BUILDER NOT INTERESTED IN AL
WELDING - SORRY)
Some tips from a former rookie aluminum gas welder:
1. I welded my tanks with a big-ol PUROX. I think it was formerly used
to weld engine blocks to locomotive couplers (what I want to say it that
it is a HUGE burner). You ever try hammering staples with a
sledgehammer?
So, do you absolutely need the MECO torch or similar? No.
The dumb thing I did was to order the MECO torch and ultra-light weight
hose AFTER finishing the tanks (I was learning 4130 tube welding now)
and it was 1000x easier to use the MECO. It is well worth the
investment, to save time, frustration, gas, aluminum, and your wrist.
(I HAVE NO AFFILIATION WITH KENT WHITE OR MECO)
2. Aluminum welding absolutely requires a means to filter out that
orange flame. Remember that aluminum goes from hard, to liquid, to
gaping hole without any color change.
3. Reading glasses inside your goggles will let you get closer to the
action. You absolutely have to see that puddle start to form, and if
you are at arms-length away, you'll miss it. I have perfect vision, but
have become addicted to those glasses for all welding now. It makes
that little puddle the size of a football field!
4. A respirator. I use one for all welding. There is some debate on
this, but I err on the safe side. Cooking fluxes and gaseous metals
can't be good for you. The other benefit is that when you exhale, you
are not blowing warm, moist air on your work.
5. WATCH someone do it for a while - or even better - get some
instruction. I could not find anyone local that melted aluminum with
gas, so I had Kent White fly up from California to show me how (in the
form of his video tape of course). Just like painting, most of the
labour in aluminum welding comes in the prep. I was welding a perfect
seem with a beautiful thick bead until I came to a speck of AL-oxide.
She glowed bright orange, turned dark-gray, and made a big hole. Repair
consisted of scraping out the crud, filing down to shiny metal, and
adding lots of flux and filler.
6. Lots of practice. The last practice piece I have is one where I
welded a 1" x 1" x 3/16" thick piece into a .025 sheet.
7. POST-Weld treatment. Get that flux and other stuff out of there and
protect your work and work area.
8. Although you CAN cut the powder flux with alcohol, don't. I did this
once. I probably passed the flame to close to the cup of flux and it
took my 5 year old son to come into the shop and tell me that there was
a fire in the cup (I was wearing those blue goggles, remember - you
can't see orange flames). No damage done other than one melted cup.
HAPPY WELDING
Martin Bima
Winnipeg
STOL-Vair
www.mts.net/~embima
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| Subject: | Re: RE: Aluminum Welding for Rookies ... |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: N5SL <nfivesl@yahoo.com>
Martin - I found it very interesting and helpful.
Thanks for taking the time to explain the process.
The tip on wearing the reading glasses is a good one!
I think I'll give it another try when I return from
Sun-n Fun.
Thanks again,
Scott(DO NOT ARCHIVE)Laughlin
www.cooknwithgas.com
--- "Bima, Martin" <mbima@hydro.mb.ca> wrote:
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Bima, Martin"
> <mbima@hydro.mb.ca>
>
>
> (THIS IS RATHER LONG AND BORING FOR THE BUILDER NOT
> INTERESTED IN AL
> WELDING - SORRY)
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| Subject: | ith-List:Blind hole deburrer |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Aaron Gustafson" <agustafson@chartermi.net>
Just discovered a easy and disposable blind hole deburring tool. You're
walking on them.
Take a steel rivet mandrel and grind a edge on one side for about 1/4". Sort
of like a short blunt knife blade. Then bend about 3/16" of this sharpened
part up toward the rest of the shaft (less than 90 degrees). Put a paint
spot on the shaft so you know which way the bend is facing when its in the
hole. Now chuck it in a slow cordless drill and insert it in the hole to be
deburred by starting at an angle and then straightening out. Spin the drill
and then pull up gently. Practice on scrap before you use it on your spar.
My first one worked great.
Aaron
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Hinde, Frank George (Corvallis)" <frank.hinde@hp.com>
Something is not quite right here...
My local Walmart stocks the tires in load range B...They can order them
in load range C but cost $27 retail.
This sounds out of line...are we sure they are load range C????
Thanks
Frank
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Don Walker
Sent: Monday, April 03, 2006 6:58 PM
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: tires
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Don Walker" <d3dw@msn.com>
Frank,
The Wal-Mart tires are Carlisle tires. they are load range C, which is
a little heavier than the ones ZAC supplied...about $9 a tire. I still
have them on mine. don
----- Original Message -----
From: Kelly Meiste<mailto:kellymeiste@jcwifi.com>
To: zenith-list@matronics.com<mailto:zenith-list@matronics.com>
Sent: Monday, April 03, 2006 8:04 PM
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: tires
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Kelly Meiste"
<kellymeiste@jcwifi.com<mailto:kellymeiste@jcwifi.com>>
Frank,
I seen the same ZAC supplied trailer tires I had in my kit at my local
Wal
Mart store (auto section).
Kelly
> Can someone remind me of the link to get the 8" trailer tires used
on
> the 601 HD(s) series.
>
> I'm about to sell my plane and I think the mains are gtting a little
> thin.
>
> Thanks
>
> Frank
>
> Do not archive
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Hinde, Frank George (Corvallis)" <frank.hinde@hp.com>
Further investigation looks like the load range C tires are 6 ply.
Cheng Shin offers a 6 ply tire for $19 (mail order) and $32 for the
Carlisle item also mail order.
Anyone know if the Chen shins work OK...in other words are rated
accordingly?
Or did ZAC originally supply load range B tires?
Help!...:)
Frank
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Hinde, Frank George (Corvallis)" <frank.hinde@hp.com>
Ok now I find out that it seems all tires have gone up in
price...doubled in fact, probably due to the oil price increase.
Anyway, Northern tool still stock Carlisle 'C' range tires for $20...I
read somewhere that maybe these did not fit the forks somehow?...Is this
true?
Thanks
Frank
Do not archive
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| Subject: | ELT and Transponder/Altimeter certification |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Grant Corriveau <grantc@ca.inter.net>
In Canada the ELT must be certified annually, and the Altimeter
(transponder/encoder) must be certified each 2 years if you are flying IFR
or VFR in class B, C airspace etc...
As amateur builders (owner maintenance) I'm guessing this is difficult to do
without some special test equipment/training? Or is it? What are those of
you flying, doing for certification of these two pieces of equipment?
Answer me off-forum if you prefer to remain below the radar ha ha!
--
Grant Corriveau
C-GHTF / HDS / CAM100
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| Subject: | ELT and Transponder/Altimeter certification |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Hinde, Frank George (Corvallis)" <frank.hinde@hp.com>
In the USA only the ransponder needs a biannual check for VFR...I pull
it out and give it to the avionics shop much to my disgust!
Frank
Do not archive.
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Grant
Corriveau
Sent: Tuesday, April 04, 2006 1:46 PM
Subject: Zenith-List: ELT and Transponder/Altimeter certification
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Grant Corriveau <grantc@ca.inter.net>
In Canada the ELT must be certified annually, and the Altimeter
(transponder/encoder) must be certified each 2 years if you are flying
IFR or VFR in class B, C airspace etc...
As amateur builders (owner maintenance) I'm guessing this is difficult
to do without some special test equipment/training? Or is it? What are
those of you flying, doing for certification of these two pieces of
equipment?
Answer me off-forum if you prefer to remain below the radar ha ha!
--
Grant Corriveau
C-GHTF / HDS / CAM100
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| Subject: | Re: Glue for rubber trim on canopy |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: JAPhillipsGA@aol.com
Rick, I used some gue I got at a motor parts store, Black tube, tough as hell
when it dries and sticks to plastic glass, rubber and painted metal. Problem
is the tube is at the airport and I'm leaving for S n F, Can you wait until
next week when I return and can write you the name of the stuff ? Best regards,
Bill
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| Subject: | Re: Heart attack averted |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Bill Naumuk" <naumuk@alltel.net>
John-
Don't know if I'll ever be "Graceful" about finding an error. More like
"Not again!"
Thanks big time to you and all my list friends. I've aquired a number of
OCDs from my project, not the least of which is self-doubt.
I disagree with your last quote. You can be both- on your SECOND
project.
Bill
do not archive
----- Original Message -----
From: "John Flavin" <jf701@bellsouth.net>
Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2006 6:02 AM
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Heart attack averted
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: "John Flavin" <jf701@bellsouth.net>
>
> "... Bottom line- I'll have 2 sets of A6s in the inboard gear rib
> flanges, and will make .025 doubler strips for both front and back of the
> affected web flange, but we're back on the road. Amazing how two holes
> can damn near ruin the next couple of months!"
>
> Bill:
>
> The two truth-isms that I've learned during my project (I think from this
> same list server ) are
>
> "The best measure of a builder's ability is not is his ability to avoid
> mistakes but rather his ability to gracefully recover from them."
>
> and
>
> "Perfectionists build, and Builders fly".
>
> John Flavin
> CH701 60%, Raleigh, NC (soon to be Overland Park, KS)
> do not archive
>
>
>
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: Leo Gates <leogates@allvantage.com>
Just went out to the hangar to check. My original ZAC tires (1997 kit)
are 4.80-8, "NANCO" brand, load range "C".
270 landings in past year and not one sign of wear - grass strip ;-)
Leo Gates
N601Z
Hinde, Frank George (Corvallis) wrote:
>--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Hinde, Frank George (Corvallis)" <frank.hinde@hp.com>
>
>Snip---------
>
>Or did ZAC originally supply load range B tires?
>
>
>Help!...:)
>
>Frank
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Glue for rubber trim on canopy |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Leo Gates <leogates@allvantage.com>
I used "Shoe Goo" from my local hardware store. Clear, dries clear,
water and solvent proof, and will glue ANYTHING TO ANYTHING. This
includes Lexan and will not fog Plexiglass.
Leo Gates
N601Z
Rick Tedford wrote:
>--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Rick Tedford" <rick.tedford@sympatico.ca>
>
>Hello All : Can anyone recommend a method of making the trim stay on the canopy
? I have had a dickens of a time with trying to keep same on the canopy .
>All suggestions will be appreciated . ( I have had no success with the glue recommende
by ZAC )
>
>Regards to all
>Rick Tedford
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Glue for rubber trim on canopy |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Rick Tedford" <rick.tedford@sympatico.ca>
Thanks Bill : Have a great time at S & F and yes I can wait
Best regards
Rick
----- Original Message -----
From: <JAPhillipsGA@aol.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 04, 2006 5:45 PM
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Glue for rubber trim on canopy
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: JAPhillipsGA@aol.com
>
> Rick, I used some gue I got at a motor parts store, Black tube, tough as
> hell
> when it dries and sticks to plastic glass, rubber and painted metal.
> Problem
> is the tube is at the airport and I'm leaving for S n F, Can you wait
> until
> next week when I return and can write you the name of the stuff ? Best
> regards,
> Bill
>
>
>
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Don Walker" <d3dw@msn.com>
ZAC originally supplied load range B by Chen, but the inflation capacity is less.
the wal-mart tires for $9.95 is what I have been using...they show a higher
capacity...that of load range C or close.
----- Original Message -----
From: Hinde, Frank George (Corvallis)<mailto:frank.hinde@hp.com>
To: zenith-list@matronics.com<mailto:zenith-list@matronics.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 04, 2006 1:53 PM
Subject: RE: Zenith-List: tires
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Hinde, Frank George (Corvallis)" <frank.hinde@hp.com<mailto:frank.hinde@hp.com>>
Further investigation looks like the load range C tires are 6 ply.
Cheng Shin offers a 6 ply tire for $19 (mail order) and $32 for the
Carlisle item also mail order.
Anyone know if the Chen shins work OK...in other words are rated
accordingly?
Or did ZAC originally supply load range B tires?
Help!...:)
Frank
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| Subject: | Re: ELT and Transponder/Altimeter certification |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Michel Therrien <mtherr@yahoo.com>
A little correction... the altimeter need
certification if you fly into Class B airspace.
The transponder needs certification if it is installed
in the airplane.... even if you never turn it on.
Last time I did it, I brought the txpndr, the encoder
and the altimeter to the avionics shop. I got
everything certified, but the guy told me that I did
not really need the altimeter certification. What I
needed were:
. txpndr and encoder certification
. encoder/altimeter correlation
Michel
do not archive
--- Grant Corriveau <grantc@ca.inter.net> wrote:
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: Grant Corriveau
> <grantc@ca.inter.net>
>
> In Canada the ELT must be certified annually, and
> the Altimeter
> (transponder/encoder) must be certified each 2 years
> if you are flying IFR
> or VFR in class B, C airspace etc...
>
> As amateur builders (owner maintenance) I'm guessing
> this is difficult to do
> without some special test equipment/training? Or is
> it? What are those of
> you flying, doing for certification of these two
> pieces of equipment?
>
> Answer me off-forum if you prefer to remain below
> the radar ha ha!
>
> --
> Grant Corriveau
> C-GHTF / HDS / CAM100
>
>
>
>
>
> browse
> Subscriptions page,
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> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Zenith-List
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----------------------------
Michel Therrien CH601-HD, C-GZGQ
http://mthobby.pcperfect.com/ch601
http://www.zenithair.com/bldrlist/profiles/mthobby
http://pages.infinit.net/mthobby
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| Subject: | ELT and Transponder/Altimeter certification |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Dave" <daberti@sbcglobal.net>
I assume you send the encoder too.
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Hinde, Frank
George (Corvallis)
Sent: Tuesday, April 04, 2006 4:03 PM
Subject: RE: Zenith-List: ELT and Transponder/Altimeter certification
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Hinde, Frank George (Corvallis)"
<frank.hinde@hp.com>
In the USA only the ransponder needs a biannual check for VFR...I pull
it out and give it to the avionics shop much to my disgust!
Frank
Do not archive.
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Grant
Corriveau
Sent: Tuesday, April 04, 2006 1:46 PM
Subject: Zenith-List: ELT and Transponder/Altimeter certification
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Grant Corriveau <grantc@ca.inter.net>
In Canada the ELT must be certified annually, and the Altimeter
(transponder/encoder) must be certified each 2 years if you are flying
IFR or VFR in class B, C airspace etc...
As amateur builders (owner maintenance) I'm guessing this is difficult
to do without some special test equipment/training? Or is it? What are
those of you flying, doing for certification of these two pieces of
equipment?
Answer me off-forum if you prefer to remain below the radar ha ha!
--
Grant Corriveau
C-GHTF / HDS / CAM100
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| Subject: | ELT and Transponder/Altimeter certification |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Hinde, Frank George (Corvallis)" <frank.hinde@hp.com>
Nope...Just the transponder!...Don't ask me how that's legal but the
shop gives me this yellow tag that says I'm good to go
Frank
Do not archive
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dave
Sent: Tuesday, April 04, 2006 7:59 PM
Subject: RE: Zenith-List: ELT and Transponder/Altimeter certification
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Dave" <daberti@sbcglobal.net>
I assume you send the encoder too.
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Hinde, Frank
George (Corvallis)
Sent: Tuesday, April 04, 2006 4:03 PM
Subject: RE: Zenith-List: ELT and Transponder/Altimeter certification
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Hinde, Frank George (Corvallis)"
<frank.hinde@hp.com>
In the USA only the ransponder needs a biannual check for VFR...I pull
it out and give it to the avionics shop much to my disgust!
Frank
Do not archive.
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Grant
Corriveau
Sent: Tuesday, April 04, 2006 1:46 PM
Subject: Zenith-List: ELT and Transponder/Altimeter certification
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Grant Corriveau <grantc@ca.inter.net>
In Canada the ELT must be certified annually, and the Altimeter
(transponder/encoder) must be certified each 2 years if you are flying
IFR or VFR in class B, C airspace etc...
As amateur builders (owner maintenance) I'm guessing this is difficult
to do without some special test equipment/training? Or is it? What are
those of you flying, doing for certification of these two pieces of
equipment?
Answer me off-forum if you prefer to remain below the radar ha ha!
--
Grant Corriveau
C-GHTF / HDS / CAM100
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