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1. 04:39 AM - Re: edge former (Bob Miller)
2. 05:59 AM - Re: 912 oil "thermostat" (Jim Hoak)
3. 06:41 AM - Re: New to the list (Jari Kaija)
4. 06:59 AM - Re: New to the list (Hinde, Frank George (Corvallis))
5. 08:04 AM - Re: edge former (doug kandle)
6. 09:15 AM - rivet gun tips (alex trent)
7. 10:54 AM - Dynon Avionics FlightDEK 180 (Robert L. Stone)
8. 11:13 AM - Re: Dynon Avionics FlightDEK 180 (Dave Johnson)
9. 11:14 AM - Re: Dynon Avionics FlightDEK 180 (Hinde, Frank George (Corvallis))
10. 11:16 AM - Re: Dynon Avionics FlightDEK 180 (Hinde, Frank George (Corvallis))
11. 11:21 AM - Re: Dynon Avionics FlightDEK 180 (Paul Moore)
12. 11:34 AM - Re: Dynon Avionics FlightDEK 180 (JAPhillipsGA@aol.com)
13. 02:20 PM - Re: First Time Post (Gig Giacona)
14. 02:58 PM - Re: rivet gun tips (Bill Naumuk)
15. 03:03 PM - Re: rivet gun tips (Bill Naumuk)
16. 03:11 PM - Re: Re: First Time Post (Afterfxllc@aol.com)
17. 08:09 PM - Re: Older designs info (Jim and Lucy)
18. 09:27 PM - Re: edge former (Tim Juhl)
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Bob Miller" <tutuzulu@gmail.com>
I made a perfectly acceptable edge-former out of those nylon spacers
sold in hardware stores. I got a pair of spacers about 1/4 inch thick
and about 7/8 diameter with a 3/8 hole through the middle. Put
another 3/8 ID spacer in the hole as a bushing, then using a washer to
hold the 7/8 piece, screw through the bushing into a piece of wood
with some aluminum behind it so the edge of your skin will slide nice.
Really just a few minutes of work and it does a fine job.
Bob
On 4/25/06, George Swinford <grs-pms@comcast.net> wrote:
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: "George Swinford" <grs-pms@comcast.net>
>
> In response to Mike Miller's question on sheet metal edge treatment and Frank
Hinde's response, the "wheel thingy" Frank referred to is an "edge former", available
for $39 from Cleaveland Tool (cat. no.EF60). It does a great job and
the riveted joints look very professional. You can get a similar result on a
straight edged part by letting the part hang over the edge of a worktable by
about 1/4 inch and gently tapping the overhanging edge along it's length with
a rubber mallet. This takes practice to get a really good looking result and
it doesn't work so well on curved parts. I've tried both ways and I recommend
the $39 tool.
>
> George
>
>
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Bob Miller
601HD N722Z
Charlottesville, Virginia
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| Subject: | Re: 912 oil "thermostat" |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Jim Hoak" <planejim@bellsouth.net>
Zed,
I would suggest you talk with Phil, Kerry or Shane at Lockwood Aviation in
Fl. Phil has talked about the oil system thermostat at his open forums at
Sun N Fun and Oshkosh. I believe it is also a bypass valve for cold weather
starts. I don't have one one my Rotax 912 UL (80hp) but I do have a couple
of cover plates that I can quickly remove/install on my Rotax oil cooler. My
usual problem is low oil temp!
do not archive
Jim Hoak 601HD 507 hrs
----- Original Message -----
From: "Zed Smith" <zsmith3rd@earthlink.net>
Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2006 5:05 PM
Subject: Zenith-List: 912 oil "thermostat"
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: Zed Smith <zsmith3rd@earthlink.net>
>
> List,
>
> A Rotax "Service Letter" (SL-912-011) mentions use of a thermostat in the
> lubrication system of the 912.
> Goes on to say that Rotax doesn't supply this item, not much other info
> other than the usual disclaimers about possible mis-translation from the
> original German into gud 'ol boy English.
>
> Anybody seen this, using this, etc? Seems it might hasten the warm-up
> but I'm wondering how continued circulation/pressure might be maintained
> while waiting for the thermostat to "open". Any comments, Gents?
> Any source specifically tailored for the 912?
>
> Regards & thanks
>
> Zed/701/R912/etc/etc/do not archive/death to fire ants!
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: New to the list |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Jari Kaija" <jari.kaija@pp.inet.fi>
> Don't forget a funky verturi tube. I plan on putting one on my 701 with
> gyro instruments to keep me out of trouble with the loss of horizon.
> Robert
How about this one :-)
http://www.project-ch701.net/ch701_electric/electric.php
http://www.project-ch701.net/
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Hinde, Frank George (Corvallis)" <frank.hinde@hp.com>
That's quite a setup....:)
Frank
Do not archive
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From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jari Kaija
Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2006 6:39 AM
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: New to the list
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Jari Kaija" <jari.kaija@pp.inet.fi>
> Don't forget a funky verturi tube. I plan on putting one on my 701
> with gyro instruments to keep me out of trouble with the loss of
horizon.
> Robert
How about this one :-)
http://www.project-ch701.net/ch701_electric/electric.php
http://www.project-ch701.net/
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: doug kandle <d_kandle@velocitus.net>
I've got a similar tool, but it doesn't work on curved parts like
inspection covers (which is the only place I really need it). Does
anyone know how to create that edge on inspection plate covers?
At 05:33 AM 4/27/2006, you wrote:
>--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Bob Miller" <tutuzulu@gmail.com>
>
>
> > In response to Mike Miller's question on sheet metal edge
> treatment and Frank Hinde's response, the "wheel thingy" Frank
> referred to is an "edge former", available for $39 from Cleaveland
> Tool (cat. no.EF60). ... it doesn't work so well on curved parts.
> >
> > George
> >
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: alex trent <atrent7@cogeco.ca>
From: Jaybannist@cs.com
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Enco rivet gun on sale
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Jaybannist@cs.com
I don't know that I got it exactly right, but close enough for me. I have
ground four of them for different rivet pullers. I just heated up the nose piece
to a cherry red and let it cool. Then it can be ground with any number of
tools. I have used a Dremel with both round cutting heads and round grinding
heads. I think the metal ones give a smoother result.
Jay in Dallas - 601XL half done with second wing.
do not archive
/No need for heat if you use the round nose fine grit grind stone, does an excellent
job.
alex
/
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| Subject: | Dynon Avionics FlightDEK 180 |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Robert L. Stone" <rstone4@hot.rr.com>
Do any of you guys know what the horizontal and vertical dementions =
of the Dynon Avionics FlightDEK 180 is. I looked at their web site and =
supporting links and don't see any e-mail address listed to get in touch =
with them for questions that are not on the FAQ list.
Bob Stone, Harker Heights, Tx
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| Subject: | Re: Dynon Avionics FlightDEK 180 |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Dave Johnson" <david_a_g_johnson@btinternet.com>
Try:-
www.dynonavionics.com/downloads/FlightDEK-D180.PDF
This is a PDF file giving the full outline drawing and dimensions.
Dave Johnson
do not archive
----- Original Message -----
From: "Robert L. Stone" <rstone4@hot.rr.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2006 6:50 PM
Subject: Zenith-List: Dynon Avionics FlightDEK 180
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Robert L. Stone" <rstone4@hot.rr.com>
>
> Do any of you guys know what the horizontal and vertical dementions =
> of the Dynon Avionics FlightDEK 180 is. I looked at their web site and =
> supporting links and don't see any e-mail address listed to get in touch =
> with them for questions that are not on the FAQ list.
>
> Bob Stone, Harker Heights, Tx
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Dynon Avionics FlightDEK 180 |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Hinde, Frank George (Corvallis)" <frank.hinde@hp.com>
Ahh..Dynon....Thats more like it...:)
It should be on the downloadable documentation...At least it was for the
other units.
Frank
Do not archive
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Robert L.
Stone
Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2006 10:51 AM
Subject: Zenith-List: Dynon Avionics FlightDEK 180
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Robert L. Stone"
--> <rstone4@hot.rr.com>
Do any of you guys know what the horizontal and vertical dementions
= of the Dynon Avionics FlightDEK 180 is. I looked at their web site
and = supporting links and don't see any e-mail address listed to get in
touch = with them for questions that are not on the FAQ list.
Bob Stone, Harker Heights, Tx
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| Subject: | Dynon Avionics FlightDEK 180 |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Hinde, Frank George (Corvallis)" <frank.hinde@hp.com>
Here you go
Frank
http://dynonavionics.com/downloads/FlightDEK-D180.PDF
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Robert L.
Stone
Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2006 10:51 AM
Subject: Zenith-List: Dynon Avionics FlightDEK 180
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Robert L. Stone"
--> <rstone4@hot.rr.com>
Do any of you guys know what the horizontal and vertical dementions
= of the Dynon Avionics FlightDEK 180 is. I looked at their web site
and = supporting links and don't see any e-mail address listed to get in
touch = with them for questions that are not on the FAQ list.
Bob Stone, Harker Heights, Tx
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| Subject: | Re: Dynon Avionics FlightDEK 180 |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Paul Moore" <pmoore505@msn.com>
info@dynonavionics.com - from their FAQ page.
Paul
----- Original Message -----
From: "Robert L. Stone" <rstone4@hot.rr.com>
.. don't see any e-mail address listed..........
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| Subject: | Re: Dynon Avionics FlightDEK 180 |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: JAPhillipsGA@aol.com
Thread Friends, at SnF Pete from Jab mentioned a type/brand of monitor system
that had problems with the Jab electric system, gave a bunch of incorrect
readings and no one could figure out why. I wasn't paying much attention so I
missed the brand name of the system, but before planning and buying, if going
Jab, the prudent builder would contact him and see which system it was and if the
bug had been resolved, FWIW, Bill of Georgia
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| Subject: | Re: First Time Post |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Gig Giacona" <wr.giacona@cox.net>
Welcome to the list and the land of Zenith builders.
I only have one thing to say about your web cam. You are going to need a bigger
table.
Well, actually 2 things.
Don't turn on the audio or the site WILL get rated "R" for language.
Afterfxllc(at)aol.com wrote:
> Hi all
>
> I am just finishing my tail feathers and will be starting the wings in a day
> or 2....I also wanted everyone to know I will have my web cam on most of the
> time thru out the build.
> The address is: _www.ftpbandit.ww.com_ (http://www.ftpbandit.ww.com) I will
> also have my yahoo open if you care to chat...However I will have limited
> chat time (if any) lol due to the fact it will cut into my build time.
>
> Blue Skies
> Jeff
--------
W.R. "Gig" Giacona
601XL Under Construction
See my progress at www.peoamerica.net/N601WR
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| Subject: | Re: rivet gun tips |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Bill Naumuk" <naumuk@alltel.net>
----- Original Message -----
From: "alex trent" <atrent7@cogeco.ca>
Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2006 12:11 PM
Subject: Zenith-List: rivet gun tips
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: alex trent <atrent7@cogeco.ca>
>
> From: Jaybannist@cs.com
> Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Enco rivet gun on sale
>
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: Jaybannist@cs.com
>
> I don't know that I got it exactly right, but close enough for me. I have
> ground four of them for different rivet pullers. I just heated up the nose
> piece
>
> to a cherry red and let it cool. Then it can be ground with any number of
> tools. I have used a Dremel with both round cutting heads and round
> grinding
> heads. I think the metal ones give a smoother result.
>
> Jay in Dallas - 601XL half done with second wing.
>
> do not archive
>
> /No need for heat if you use the round nose fine grit grind stone, does an
> excellent job.
> alex
> /
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: rivet gun tips |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Bill Naumuk" <naumuk@alltel.net>
----- Original Message -----
From: "alex trent" <atrent7@cogeco.ca>
Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2006 12:11 PM
Subject: Zenith-List: rivet gun tips
I took a totally different approach. Bought a carbide ball mill from a local
machine shop supply house for $10.50 and used my drill press.
Bill
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: First Time Post |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Afterfxllc@aol.com
Table in the planning stages....as soon as I sell my boat and get rid of the
extra junk in the garage I will have the room for it.
As for the language I have built a Vans RV and compared to that this is a
Rated G language Build LOL
Jeff
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| Subject: | Re: Older designs info |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Jim and Lucy <jpollard@ciaccess.com>
At 06:29 AM 4/26/2006, you wrote:
>--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Dave" <d.goddard@ns.sympatico.ca>
>
>I am interested in info on the older designs from Chris Hientz. The CH200
>and CH300. Does the factory still provide support etc for these machines? Do
>they have any vices or known issues?
>
This does not answer any of your questions but on the yahoo group
called zenithkitaircraft in the files section there are some old handouts
of many of the different models from before the ch601 series came along.
You will need to register with the site to see them.
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/zenithkitaircraft/files/
Jim Pollard
ch601hds
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Tim Juhl" <juhl@avci.net>
I attended an EAA workshop on sheet metal work last weekend. One method I learned
for forming the edge for a inspection cover is to make a wooden form with
the same outside dimensions as the cover. Next, use a file or a sander of some
kind to put a bevel or rounded edge on the wood form. Clamp your cover on
the form and then go around the edge with a rubber mallet or plastic hammer and
tap the aluminum into the desired contour.
--------
CFII
Champ L16A flying
Zodiac XL - awaiting kit
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