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1. 01:40 AM - Re: Best landing of my life! - Flap Trim (norman)
2. 03:36 AM - Pretend you have two sets of wings, the standard CH 701 and the Pegastol (Christopher Hazlitt)
3. 05:22 AM - Re: 601HDS is now for sale...Again! (Jim Pellien)
4. 09:24 AM - Re: HD parts 6F12-5 and 6F12-6 (Jeff)
5. 09:34 AM - Re: 601HDS is now for sale...Again! (Hinde, Frank George (Corvallis))
6. 12:28 PM - Re: HD parts 6F12-5 and 6F12-6 (LarryMcFarland)
7. 01:04 PM - Engine choices for CH701 (JohnDRead@aol.com)
8. 03:53 PM - Re: Engine choices for CH701 (Bill Howerton)
9. 06:06 PM - Re: Engine choices for CH701 (Ashcraft, Keith -AES)
10. 06:54 PM - 701 Flying Out of Hangar (Charles Kyle)
11. 07:27 PM - Re: Engine choices for CH701 (Mike Fothergill)
12. 11:37 PM - CH 700 Snow mobile with wings? (Christopher Hazlitt)
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| Subject: | Re: Best landing of my life! - Flap Trim |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "norman" <normskiroo@ukonline.co.uk>
Dear List,
I had the first XL on the PFA register here in England last year and had =
a problem with lack of nose up pitch trim when using full flap, I have =
the almost full span trim tab fitted. A friend who also had the same =
problem taped an extension the trailing edge of his trim tab increasing =
it's effective are by about two thirds and this did the trick. The PFA =
where not happy with mod and refused to approve it.
The fix they came up with at the factory (CZAW) was to connect the =
control yoke to the flap operating shaft with an arm and spring, this =
pulls on the stick as the flaps are operated. The nose down pitch has =
not been cured completely but only slight back pressure is required.
Please feel free to e-mail me if you need more info at =
normskiroo@ukonline.co.uk
All the best,
Norman Butcher
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| Subject: | Pretend you have two sets of wings, the standard CH 701 and |
the Pegastol
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Christopher Hazlitt <chrishazlitt@yahoo.com>
Pretend you have two sets of wings, the standard CH 701 and the Pegastol, both
are perfect and ready to instal... which would you choose?
Any real world numbers of performance between the two wings?
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| Subject: | 601HDS is now for sale...Again! |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Jim Pellien" <jim@pellien.com>
Frank,
Please give me some performance information on your HDS.
Thanks,
Jim
Jim Pellien
Mid-Atlantic Sports Planes
Sky Bryce Airport (VG18)
Basye, VA
www.MASPL.com
703-313-4818
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Hinde, Frank
George (Corvallis)
Sent: Friday, May 12, 2006 11:38 AM
Subject: RE: Zenith-List: 601HDS is now for sale...Again!
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Hinde, Frank George (Corvallis)"
<frank.hinde@hp.com>
Morning all...Well I was on the cusp of waving my bird goodbye on
Monday morning for its 2500 mile ferry flight from Oregon to Texas when
the deal fell through.
So once again its up for sale. If anyone wants or knows someone who
would like a well sorted (sport pilot compliant) HDS let me know.
Cheers
Frank
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Hinde,
Frank George (Corvallis)
Sent: Monday, March 20, 2006 11:51 AM
Subject: Zenith-List: 601HDS is now for sale
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Hinde, Frank George (Corvallis)"
--> <frank.hinde@hp.com>
Hi all,
Just a note to say this sad day I placed my airplane on
www.barnstormers.com Listed as Sport pilot compliant. I will be sad to
see her go but I have moved onto finishing up my RV7a.
Let anyone you know who might like a well sorted 601.
Thanks
Frank
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| Subject: | HD parts 6F12-5 and 6F12-6 |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Jeff " <jeffrey_davidson@earthlink.net>
RE: "What is intended to be held by the fittings" is the
aft attachments of the mounting straps, for the
fuselage header fuel tank (if installed).
Thanks everyone for the help. I am building the plane with leading edge
wing tanks only. So this is the answer about what the fittings are for and
also about why I don't need the fittings (6F12-6).
Jeff Davidson
CH601 HD
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| Subject: | 601HDS is now for sale...Again! |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Hinde, Frank George (Corvallis)" <frank.hinde@hp.com>
Sure Jim,
Out of the box the HDS will make about 125mph top speed at 8GPH. There
is more to be had but it will take a little work in cleaning up the
airframe. I normally cruise it around 110 to 115mph at about 4.8 to
5Gph...Premium autofuel.
Stall speed at gross is about 50mph CAS...I.e just inside the Sport
pilot limit.
Engine is rated at 100hp with a three blade Warp drive prop.
Empty weight 683 plated at 1200 gross, but have flown it up to 1300lb
with no problems.
I have re posted the ad at www.Barnstormers.com..Search under Zenith.
It's a nose gear airplane unpainted, night VFR with strobes and Mode C.
Everything works, which I understand is unusual...:). JPI flow scan fuel
trip computer.
Just completed the annual
Frank
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jim Pellien
Sent: Saturday, May 13, 2006 5:15 AM
Subject: RE: Zenith-List: 601HDS is now for sale...Again!
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Jim Pellien" <jim@pellien.com>
Frank,
Please give me some performance information on your HDS.
Thanks,
Jim
Jim Pellien
Mid-Atlantic Sports Planes
Sky Bryce Airport (VG18)
Basye, VA
www.MASPL.com
703-313-4818
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Hinde,
Frank George (Corvallis)
Sent: Friday, May 12, 2006 11:38 AM
Subject: RE: Zenith-List: 601HDS is now for sale...Again!
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Hinde, Frank George (Corvallis)"
<frank.hinde@hp.com>
Morning all...Well I was on the cusp of waving my bird goodbye on
Monday morning for its 2500 mile ferry flight from Oregon to Texas when
the deal fell through.
So once again its up for sale. If anyone wants or knows someone who
would like a well sorted (sport pilot compliant) HDS let me know.
Cheers
Frank
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Hinde,
Frank George (Corvallis)
Sent: Monday, March 20, 2006 11:51 AM
Subject: Zenith-List: 601HDS is now for sale
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Hinde, Frank George (Corvallis)"
--> <frank.hinde@hp.com>
Hi all,
Just a note to say this sad day I placed my airplane on
www.barnstormers.com Listed as Sport pilot compliant. I will be sad to
see her go but I have moved onto finishing up my RV7a.
Let anyone you know who might like a well sorted 601.
Thanks
Frank
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| Subject: | Re: HD parts 6F12-5 and 6F12-6 |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: LarryMcFarland <larry@macsmachine.com>
Jeff,
If you've no intention of putting in a header tank, you don't need to
install the 6F12-6 angle
located on the instrument panel bulkhead 6F12-5 support panels. You
probably do need to
extend the panels forward to anchor the instrument panel angle and
reduce twist loads by the radio
and instruments though. I'd put lightening holes in a longer 6F12-5 and
anchor it to the firewall.
A light piece of standard angle between the -5 panels could be used as a
support for bundled
electric wires.
Larry McFarland - 601HDS at www.macsmachine.com
Jeff wrote:
>--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Jeff " <jeffrey_davidson@earthlink.net>
>
>RE: "What is intended to be held by the fittings" is the
>aft attachments of the mounting straps, for the
>fuselage header fuel tank (if installed).
>
>
>Thanks everyone for the help. I am building the plane with leading edge
>wing tanks only. So this is the answer about what the fittings are for and
>also about why I don't need the fittings (6F12-6).
>
>Jeff Davidson
>CH601 HD
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Engine choices for CH701 |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: JohnDRead@aol.com
I live in Colorado at 7200 feet elevation, I will be flying off grass. There
are many 10,000 foot days during the Summer.
Question - which engine would be best for this application, Jabiru 3300,
Jabiru 2200, Rotax 912m, Rotax 914, O235, turbine?
Regards, John Read
do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: Engine choices for CH701 |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Bill Howerton" <Bill@Howerton.com>
John, I also mlive in Colorado, in my case at 6800 feet (Meadowlake - 00V)
and I'm using a Corvair
----- Original Message -----
From: <JohnDRead@aol.com>
Sent: Saturday, May 13, 2006 1:42 PM
Subject: Zenith-List: Engine choices for CH701
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: JohnDRead@aol.com
>
> I live in Colorado at 7200 feet elevation, I will be flying off grass.
> There
> are many 10,000 foot days during the Summer.
>
> Question - which engine would be best for this application, Jabiru
> 3300,
> Jabiru 2200, Rotax 912m, Rotax 914, O235, turbine?
>
> Regards, John Read
>
> do not archive
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| Subject: | Engine choices for CH701 |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Ashcraft, Keith -AES" <Keith.Ashcraft@itt.com>
John,
I am here in Colorado at 9,100'. I am planning something Turbo'd. You =
derate HP of and engine around 3% per 1,000 in elevation. I haven't =
gotten this far yet, still cutting out parts, but I have been doing some =
research on engines, and haven't come up with a solution yet. I don't =
want to pay the price of a 914, but I would like something tried and =
proven also.
Keith
CH701 -- 8% scratch
N 38.9947
W105.1305
Alt. 9,100'
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-----Original Message-----
From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com on behalf of Bill Howerton
Sent: Sat 5/13/2006 4:49 PM
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Engine choices for CH701
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Bill Howerton" <Bill@Howerton.com>
John, I also mlive in Colorado, in my case at 6800 feet (Meadowlake - =
00V)
and I'm using a Corvair
----- Original Message -----
From: <JohnDRead@aol.com>
Sent: Saturday, May 13, 2006 1:42 PM
Subject: Zenith-List: Engine choices for CH701
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: JohnDRead@aol.com
>
> I live in Colorado at 7200 feet elevation, I will be flying off =
grass.
> There
> are many 10,000 foot days during the Summer.
>
> Question - which engine would be best for this application, Jabiru =
> 3300,
> Jabiru 2200, Rotax 912m, Rotax 914, O235, turbine?
>
> Regards, John Read
>
> do not archive
>
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| Subject: | 701 Flying Out of Hangar |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Charles Kyle" <Phoenix3@cox.net>
Hi,
I have heard of a video clip of a 701 flying out of a hangar. Does
anyone know where I can find it, if it exists? Thanks.
Chuck Kyle
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| Subject: | Re: Engine choices for CH701 |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Mike Fothergill <mfothergill@sympatico.ca>
Obviously the 914
JohnDRead@aol.com wrote:
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: JohnDRead@aol.com
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> I live in Colorado at 7200 feet elevation, I will be flying off grass. There
> are many 10,000 foot days during the Summer.
>
> Question - which engine would be best for this application, Jabiru 3300,
> Jabiru 2200, Rotax 912m, Rotax 914, O235, turbine?
>
> Regards, John Read
>
> do not archive
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| Subject: | CH 700 Snow mobile with wings? |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Christopher Hazlitt <chrishazlitt@yahoo.com>
I saw a CH 700 today at the Big Lake airport in Alaska and was surprised how tiny
it is. My wife says it is a snow mobile with wings, engine has smaller HP than
many snow machines too.
I like it's performance but if it was half way between that and a 801 I would
be happier, but I am sure at a cost to take off run if it were. One of the things
which bothers me about it is how low to the ground it is, especially the
prop. The Slepcev Storch is starting to appeal to me due to being so far off the
ground. If only it had flapperons and a little more high end speed!
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