---------------------------------------------------------- Zenith-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Mon 05/22/06: 22 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 05:49 AM - Prop for sale (Larry) 2. 06:03 AM - Re: Flap positions? (JAPhillipsGA@aol.com) 3. 06:58 AM - Re: Flap positions? (Jack Russell) 4. 07:23 AM - Re: Zenith Aircraft Corvair Day (Erase Now if the C-word offends (Chris Lewis) 5. 08:03 AM - Re: Air tools & Compressor/ Sears Craftsman (Hinde, Frank George (Corvallis)) 6. 08:43 AM - Rotax 912 'thrust'? (Zed Smith) 7. 08:52 AM - Re: Re: Zenith Aircraft Corvair Day (Erase Now if the C-word offends (John Hines) 8. 09:17 AM - Re: Rotax 912 'thrust'? (Randy Bryant) 9. 09:24 AM - Re: Re: Torque value AN fuel fittings / Sealant NPT threads (Thilo Kind) 10. 09:25 AM - Re: Air tools & Compressor/ hp. vs psi. (Big Gee) 11. 09:53 AM - Re: Rotax 912 'thrust'? (Paul Mulwitz) 12. 09:54 AM - Re: Air tools & Compressor/ hp. vs psi. (Hinde, Frank George (Corvallis)) 13. 10:24 AM - Re: Re: Torque value AN fuel fittings / Sealant NPT threads (Paul Mulwitz) 14. 10:41 AM - horizon-tail alignment (john butterfield) 15. 12:19 PM - Matronics BBS Forums (Matt Dralle) 16. 12:40 PM - thrust..... (Zed Smith) 17. 05:28 PM - Re: thrust..... (Craig Payne) 18. 07:45 PM - paint prop tips? (Larry) 19. 07:45 PM - Re: thrust..... (Afterfxllc@aol.com) 20. 09:47 PM - Re: thrust..... (Edward Moody II) 21. 09:48 PM - Re: paint prop tips? (Edward Moody II) 22. 10:24 PM - New list member, building a CH601HD (David Mikesell) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 05:49:08 AM PST US From: "Larry" Subject: Zenith-List: Prop for sale --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Larry" BlankI am changing props if I can sell mine. I have almost $1000 invested and will take less. It is a 64" three blade Ground adjustable Warp Drive HP prop with a HP hub and has nickel leading edges. It has never been flown. The black primer color Warp Drive uses was removed, then sanded lightly to reveal the carbon fiber pattern. The tips are painted white, entire blades clear coated with blue pearl in the clear , absolutely beautiful! I sent the blades back to Warp Drive after painting for a re-balance. The (H)igh (P)ower hub is a SAE-1 (4 3/8") bolt pattern 3/8"x6. The prop is clockwise rotation from the cockpit. This is a high speed prop. At 3600 RPM, 80 degrees, it is at 0.883 mach. Of course it can be used at much slower max speeds. It was intended for my direct drive Subaru. Before I flew it I changed to a Harley engine with a re-drive thus I don't need the HP prop setup. I want to move to lighter longer prop for my 701. I will make someone a deal. All offers considered. Contact me via e-mail at lrm01@centurytel.net. Larry Martin, www.skyhawg.com ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 06:03:25 AM PST US From: JAPhillipsGA@aol.com Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Flap positions? --> Zenith-List message posted by: JAPhillipsGA@aol.com Bruce, I have an indicator on my XL and have never had the time while landing to try to find it. As you say, if I needed to see it, a quick peek out to the left would do it. Also, I have found on the XL, flap landings are the rarity. With any cross wind at all you will not enjoy the ride, and you don't really need them. By the time you bleed off the speed just short of stall you are barely moving anyway. Best regards, Bill of Georgia ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 06:58:31 AM PST US From: Jack Russell Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Flap positions? --> Zenith-List message posted by: Jack Russell I agree with Bill. Although I only have about a dozen landings in the xl now I don't like landing with full flaps. I have decided that my landings are much better with no flaps or only 10deg flaps. Jack at Fresno- Chandler right now.. do not archive JAPhillipsGA@aol.com wrote: --> Zenith-List message posted by: JAPhillipsGA@aol.com Bruce, I have an indicator on my XL and have never had the time while landing to try to find it. As you say, if I needed to see it, a quick peek out to the left would do it. Also, I have found on the XL, flap landings are the rarity. With any cross wind at all you will not enjoy the ride, and you don't really need them. By the time you bleed off the speed just short of stall you are barely moving anyway. Best regards, Bill of Georgia ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 07:23:14 AM PST US Subject: Zenith-List: Re: Zenith Aircraft Corvair Day (Erase Now if the C-word offends From: "Chris Lewis" --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Chris Lewis" All - I flew down from Seattle for this event and had a great time. Sebastien, Nicholas and Roger were great hosts and it was fun to see the factory demonstrators (thanks for the ride in the 701 Roger!). The new CNC machine is a beauty. I even picked up some parts for my 701 while I was there. I enjoyed meeting William, Grace Ellen, Bill and Mark and listening to William talk about his passion for the Corvair powerplant. While he has taken some lumps for being the "Authority", I found him to be very engaging in person and highly committed to making aviation accessible to people of decent mechanical skills and a willingness to listen and take advantage of his experience and the hard work he's put into making the Corvair a viable option. For those of you who haven't met him, make the effort. He may be the "Authority", but he's a man dedicated to getting more of us safely flying. A warm greeting, a firm handshake and an engaged conversation will let you know where he really stands. He and his Hangar Gang are the kind of people I want to be around. Chris in Seattle Hangar Gang Wannabe -------- 701 Scratch Builder Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=35761#35761 ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 08:03:12 AM PST US Subject: RE: Zenith-List: Air tools & Compressor/ Sears Craftsman From: "Hinde, Frank George (Corvallis)" --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Hinde, Frank George (Corvallis)" The compressor mentioned below is less than 2HP...120V* 15amp ignores the power factor of the motor which can be assumed to be about 0.8. So 120V * 15A *0.8/ 0.746 = 1.9HP motor horse power Frank Do not archive -----Original Message----- From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Big Gee Sent: Sunday, May 21, 2006 12:21 PM Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Air tools & Compressor/ Sears Craftsman --> Zenith-List message posted by: Big Gee Frank, that expalins why this morning I couldn't find " my" model compressor on Sears' website. ( I was going to pass the link on to the Zenith/ Matronics site for Dave to have something to compare to) They had one showing the same 6.4 scfm @ 90 psi, 33 gal. tank but was rated at 2.2 hp. for $279.99-------- goes to prove not to pay attention to the "advertised hp" but rather the performance of the unit.----- Again, I am very pleased with my unit for the price, it does the job very well. Fritz------ Corvair Do not archive Frank Stutzman wrote: --> Zenith-List message posted by: Frank Stutzman On Sun, 21 May 2006, Big Gee wrote: > Dave----- my compressor is a: > Sears Craftsman, 6 hp, 30 gal, 6.4 scfm@ 90psi., 120 v. 15 amp ( all > data taken off unit) and works great for the task at hand. It is an > upright model. 1 hp (electric) = 746 watts 120 volts * 15 amp = 1800 watts. So your compressor motor is actually only 2.4 HP. This is not surprising, there is all sorts of weird claims when manufactures (of almost any kind of power tool) state their horsepower. Frank Stutzman Bonanza N494B "Hula Girl" Hood River, OR --------------------------------- Feel free to call! Free PC-to-PC calls. Low rates on PC-to-Phone. Get Yahoo! Messenger with Voice ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 08:43:06 AM PST US From: Zed Smith Subject: Zenith-List: Rotax 912 'thrust'? --> Zenith-List message posted by: Zed Smith List, Has anybody tied a 912-powered craft to a spring scale to determine "thrust" at max RPM? In digging through my extensive assortment of stuff brought home by a pack rat I found a 0-400 pound spring scale with hooks on both ends........weighs equally well vertical & horizontal. Obviously there are variables but it might be interesting to know just how much "pull" exists during run-up. Idle minds want to know, Regards, Zed/701/R912/90+%/do not archive ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 08:52:20 AM PST US Subject: RE: Zenith-List: Re: Zenith Aircraft Corvair Day (Erase Now if the C-word offends From: "John Hines" --> Zenith-List message posted by: "John Hines" Corvair day at the factory was great. I took most of my core with me for William to inspect. I was worried about my heads but I got the thumbs up! I loaded some pictures on my web site so check them out: http://www.johnsplane.com/Engine/Corvair_Day/index.html I live in NW Arkansas and need to get in touch with the other Corvair builders in my area. I was amazed at how far people traveled to be there. It was a great event with great people. I look forward to working more with them in the future. John www.johnsplane.com John R. Hines IT Manager Crafton, Tull & Associates, Inc. 901 N. 47th Street, Suite 200 Rogers, AR 72756 Office: 479-878-2449 Mobile: 479-366-4783 Fax: 479-631-6224 John.Hines@craftontull.com www.craftontull.com Crafton, Tull & Associates, Inc. exists to anticipate and understand the needs of our clients and provide them with successful solutions. -----Original Message----- From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Chris Lewis Sent: Monday, May 22, 2006 9:22 AM Subject: Zenith-List: Re: Zenith Aircraft Corvair Day (Erase Now if the C-word offends --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Chris Lewis" All - I flew down from Seattle for this event and had a great time. Sebastien, Nicholas and Roger were great hosts and it was fun to see the factory demonstrators (thanks for the ride in the 701 Roger!). The new CNC machine is a beauty. I even picked up some parts for my 701 while I was there. I enjoyed meeting William, Grace Ellen, Bill and Mark and listening to William talk about his passion for the Corvair powerplant. While he has taken some lumps for being the "Authority", I found him to be very engaging in person and highly committed to making aviation accessible to people of decent mechanical skills and a willingness to listen and take advantage of his experience and the hard work he's put into making the Corvair a viable option. For those of you who haven't met him, make the effort. He may be the "Authority", but he's a man dedicated to getting more of us safely flying. A warm greeting, a firm handshake and an engaged conversation will let you know where he really stands. He and his Hangar Gang are the kind of people I want to be around. Chris in Seattle Hangar Gang Wannabe -------- 701 Scratch Builder Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=35761#35761 This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please notify the sender immediately by e-mail if you have received this e-mail by mistake and delete this e-mail from your system. If you are not the intended recipient you are notified that disclosing, copying, distributing or taking any action in reliance on the contents of this information is strictly prohibited. ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 09:17:14 AM PST US From: "Randy Bryant" Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Rotax 912 'thrust'? --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Randy Bryant" William Wynne did some thrust testing... I believe his tests included the 912...I believe... Check out: http://www.flycorvair.com Thanks, Randy http://www.n344rb.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Zed Smith" Sent: Monday, May 22, 2006 11:40 AM Subject: Zenith-List: Rotax 912 'thrust'? > --> Zenith-List message posted by: Zed Smith > > List, > > Has anybody tied a 912-powered craft to a spring scale to determine > "thrust" at max RPM? > In digging through my extensive assortment of stuff brought home by a pack > rat I found a 0-400 pound spring scale with hooks on both > ends........weighs equally well vertical & horizontal. > Obviously there are variables but it might be interesting to know just how > much "pull" exists during run-up. > > Idle minds want to know, > > Regards, > > Zed/701/R912/90+%/do not archive > > > ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 09:24:29 AM PST US From: "Thilo Kind" Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Re: Torque value AN fuel fittings / Sealant NPT threads --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Thilo Kind" Hi Paul, just read an article about the flanged fittings. It said... do not use any sealing compound in order to ensure metal to metal contact of the flange.... torque: finger-tighten the nut and give it approx. 1/4 more turn with a wrench. Thilo Kind ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Mulwitz" Sent: Sunday, May 21, 2006 12:13 PM Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Re: Torque value AN fuel fittings / Sealant NPT threads > --> Zenith-List message posted by: Paul Mulwitz > > I used some fancy thread compound paste with teflon I got at the > hardware store. > > Paul > XL wings > do not archive > > At 01:49 PM 5/20/2006, you wrote: > > >I just found the torque values in THE handbook :D. But I am still > >interested in how to seal the fittings... > > > >Martin > > ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 09:25:08 AM PST US From: Big Gee Subject: RE: Zenith-List: Air tools & Compressor/ hp. vs psi. --> Zenith-List message posted by: Big Gee Frank H. ---- in an earlier post you said your Sears compressor is 6 hp. Is this the actual hp. or the inflated hp. Not that is matters, as we can agree that the performance is what counts------- but we should compare apples to apples, for the folks who are looking at the numbers in order to buy a unit (our units regardless of hp ratings work fine) It appears the "buyer's" should be looking at the "6.4 scfm @ 90 psi" (etc.) vs. the hp rating. Fritz---- Corvair do not archive --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Hinde, Frank George (Corvallis)" The compressor mentioned below is less than 2HP...120V* 15amp ignores the power factor of the motor which can be assumed to be about 0.8. So 120V * 15A *0.8/ 0.746 = 1.9HP motor horse power Frank Do not archive -----Original Message----- From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Big Gee Sent: Sunday, May 21, 2006 12:21 PM Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Air tools & Compressor/ Sears Craftsman --> Zenith-List message posted by: Big Gee Frank, that expalins why this morning I couldn't find " my" model compressor on Sears' website. ( I was going to pass the link on to the Zenith/ Matronics site for Dave to have something to compare to) They had one showing the same 6.4 scfm @ 90 psi, 33 gal. tank but was rated at 2.2 hp. for $279.99-------- goes to prove not to pay attention to the "advertised hp" but rather the performance of the unit.----- Again, I am very pleased with my unit for the price, it does the job very well. Fritz------ Corvair Do not archive Frank Stutzman wrote: --> Zenith-List message posted by: Frank Stutzman On Sun, 21 May 2006, Big Gee wrote: > Dave----- my compressor is a: > Sears Craftsman, 6 hp, 30 gal, 6.4 scfm@ 90psi., 120 v. 15 amp ( all > data taken off unit) and works great for the task at hand. It is an > upright model. 1 hp (electric) = 746 watts 120 volts * 15 amp = 1800 watts. So your compressor motor is actually only 2.4 HP. This is not surprising, there is all sorts of weird claims when manufactures (of almost any kind of power tool) state their horsepower. Frank Stutzman Bonanza N494B "Hula Girl" Hood River, OR --------------------------------- Feel free to call! Free PC-to-PC calls. Low rates on PC-to-Phone. Get Yahoo! Messenger with Voice __________________________________________________ ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 09:53:06 AM PST US From: Paul Mulwitz Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Rotax 912 'thrust'? --> Zenith-List message posted by: Paul Mulwitz Hi Zed, I don't have your answer regarding static thrust, but I do have a warning. This can be a misleading piece of information. Static thrust comes from a combination of engine torque (HP) and propeller pitch and length. It is OK for looking at the condition of your engine, but it can kill you if you use it to maximize thrust for flight. The problem is that the low pitch which works great when the plane is standing still will not generate any thrust at all after it reaches a relatively low speed. This means you won't generate good flying speed even though you have reached a high static thrust. The long pitch angle that works best in cruise flight will not work well in the static condition. This test is similar to measuring the pulling strength in a car in first gear. It has some value but will not tell you how fast your car will go. Good luck, Paul XL wings do not archive >Has anybody tied a 912-powered craft to a spring scale to determine >"thrust" at max RPM? >In digging through my extensive assortment of stuff brought home by >a pack rat I found a 0-400 pound spring scale with hooks on both >ends........weighs equally well vertical & horizontal. >Obviously there are variables but it might be interesting to know >just how much "pull" exists during run-up. > >Idle minds want to know, > >Regards, > >Zed/701/R912/90+%/do not archive > > ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 09:54:11 AM PST US Subject: RE: Zenith-List: Air tools & Compressor/ hp. vs psi. From: "Hinde, Frank George (Corvallis)" --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Hinde, Frank George (Corvallis)" Its most definatly the inflated number. If you think about it the most you can get reasonably is about 15A, Yes I know you can get 20A in the US but the in-rush current on a true 20A motor would probaly pop 20A panel breakers regularly. So 15A equates to less than 2Hp on a 120V supply. The max you would get even on a 240V supply would be aroud 4Hp. Personally I would avoid a 240V machine unless you are sure it will be permanently in one place. Yes I agree the SCFM number@ 90psi would be a better comparison but even then you have to read between the lines...I mean what if the SCFM number is shown at 70psi...Whats the comparison? All the domestic quality machines are going to run about the same efficiency so you can get a rough idea on the max amps the thing draws. I.e 15A= 2HP. 7.5A = 1HP etc. What we do know is a 15A machine with a 30 Gallon tank is more than adequate to do everything on an airplane and in the shop. Incidently, I would be wary of Harbor Freight compressors. I have a small HF pancake compressor for portable jobs like nail guns etc and it works great for the $80 I paid for it. Occasionally though it will stall on start up. This is not what you want if your in the middle of a paint job, you got to turn it on and forget about it till the end of the day. As an owner of more HF tools than you can shake a stick at I would say the compressor is the one place I personally would NOT buy Harbor Freight. Frank Do not archive -----Original Message----- From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Big Gee Sent: Monday, May 22, 2006 9:25 AM Subject: RE: Zenith-List: Air tools & Compressor/ hp. vs psi. --> Zenith-List message posted by: Big Gee Frank H. ---- in an earlier post you said your Sears compressor is 6 hp. Is this the actual hp. or the inflated hp. Not that is matters, as we can agree that the performance is what counts------- but we should compare apples to apples, for the folks who are looking at the numbers in order to buy a unit (our units regardless of hp ratings work fine) It appears the "buyer's" should be looking at the "6.4 scfm @ 90 psi" (etc.) vs. the hp rating. Fritz---- Corvair do not archive ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 10:24:54 AM PST US From: Paul Mulwitz Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Re: Torque value AN fuel fittings / Sealant NPT threads --> Zenith-List message posted by: Paul Mulwitz Hi Thilo, I agree with you. I was speaking about the threaded components. It is on the threads that I use the thread compound. Alas, AN fittings describes a huge selection of different items. Paul XL wings At 09:19 AM 5/22/2006, you wrote: >just read an article about the flanged fittings. It said... do not use any >sealing compound in order to ensure metal to metal contact of the flange.... >torque: finger-tighten the nut and give it approx. 1/4 more turn with a >wrench. - ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 10:41:26 AM PST US From: john butterfield Subject: Zenith-List: horizon-tail alignment --> Zenith-List message posted by: john butterfield hi list. thanks for the help on setting the proper angle of the stab. actually, i played around with it and found that if i used my lazer level( cheapie one from harbor) i marked the center line on the stab and leveled out the longeron and set the stab level. it seems exact. also thanks for the info about using the wing to set the incidence. john butterfield 601XL corvair ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 12:19:03 PM PST US From: Matt Dralle Subject: Zenith-List: Matronics BBS Forums --> Zenith-List message posted by: Matt Dralle Hello Listers, I just wanted to send out a reminder to all of the Listers regarding the new-ish BBS (Bulletin Board System) Forums that are available at Matronics for the Email Lists. The BBS Forums give you Web-based access into the same email content that is generated by the Email Lists. When an email message is posted to any of the email lists, a copy of the message is also copied to the respective List forum section on in the BBS Forums. By the same token, when a message is posted within the BBS Forum interface context, it will also be posted to the respective email list. Basically, the BBS Forums give you yet another method of accessing the Matronics Email List content. Some people prefer email, some prefer web forums; now you can have it either way or both with the Matronics Lists! You'll have to register for a login/password on the BBS Forum to _post_ from the BBS, but you can view message content without registering for an account. To Register for an account, look for the link at the top of the main BBS Forum page entitled "Register". Click on it and follow the instructions. Site Administrator approval will be required (to keep spammers out), but I will try to get these approved in less than 24 hours. If you haven't yet taken a look at the Matronics Email List content over on the BBS Forum, surf on over and take a peek. Its pretty cool. The URL is: http://forums.matronics.com I want to stress that the BBS Forums are simply an adjunct to the existing Matronics Email Lists; another way of viewing and interacting with the Matronics List content. If you like Email, great. If you like Web Forums, great. If you like both, great. Its up to you how you view and create your content. You will also find a URL link at the bottom of this email called Matronics List Features Navigator. You can click on this link at any time to find URL links to all of the other great features available on the Matronics site like the Archive Search Engine, List Browse, List Download, FAQs, Wiki, and lots more. There is a specific Navigator for each Email List and the link for this specific List is shown below. Thanks for all the great list participation and support; it is greatly appreciated! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 12:40:26 PM PST US From: Zed Smith Subject: Zenith-List: thrust..... --> Zenith-List message posted by: Zed Smith List, Thanks to all for the pointers/web sites, etc, as to the "thrust" produced by a 912. Having an idea as to the range of values others have experienced is nice to know. Have any of the Corvair-powered machines managed to squeal the tires on takeoff? Or is that the Harley that does that? Regards, Zed do not archive ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 05:28:43 PM PST US From: "Craig Payne" Subject: RE: Zenith-List: thrust..... --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Craig Payne" Corvair-powered planes are so fast they land before they take-off. -- Craig -----Original Message----- From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Zed Smith Sent: Monday, May 22, 2006 1:39 PM Subject: Zenith-List: thrust..... --> Zenith-List message posted by: Zed Smith List, Thanks to all for the pointers/web sites, etc, as to the "thrust" produced by a 912. Having an idea as to the range of values others have experienced is nice to know. Have any of the Corvair-powered machines managed to squeal the tires on takeoff? Or is that the Harley that does that? Regards, Zed do not archive ________________________________ Message 18 ____________________________________ Time: 07:45:33 PM PST US From: "Larry" Subject: Zenith-List: paint prop tips? --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Larry" BlankWhat's the deal about painting prop tips? I thought it was required. It is on the EAA check list. I asked IVOPROP about it and they said not to do it, it would affect the balance. I can't find a FAR about it. When I had my gyro inspected, the DAR told me to paint them. "Are the propeller tips painted for visibility?" That's off the EAA check list. Do we or don't we? Anyone know for sure? Larry Martin, www.skyhawg.com ________________________________ Message 19 ____________________________________ Time: 07:45:33 PM PST US From: Afterfxllc@aol.com Subject: Re: Zenith-List: thrust..... --> Zenith-List message posted by: Afterfxllc@aol.com All I know is that when I fly with corvair power my useful load goes way down due to the fact that my wallet is so fat from all the money I have saved...LOL I'll take that trade off any day. ________________________________ Message 20 ____________________________________ Time: 09:47:52 PM PST US From: "Edward Moody II" Subject: Re: Zenith-List: thrust..... --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Edward Moody II" Yep, Chuck Norris flies a Corvair and he lost his virginity before his father did. Ed Moody II Do Not Archive Do Not Mess With Chuck Norris either > --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Craig Payne" > > Corvair-powered planes are so fast they land before they take-off. > > -- Craig ________________________________ Message 21 ____________________________________ Time: 09:48:41 PM PST US From: "Edward Moody II" Subject: Re: Zenith-List: paint prop tips? --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Edward Moody II" I've been on hand for two Excalibur initial airworthiness inspections... neither had the prop tips painted... both were certified without any hassle about painting the tips..... both of us yell "Clear Prop!" before start up... neither of us have hit anything or anyone with the prop. Well actually my prop hit a home run with the tennis ball as it blew off the exhaust at start up...... twice so far. Found it both times after a bit of a search. No charges were pressed. Four runs batted in. Ed Moody II Rayne, LA N4568B "Bumble-Ri" ----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry" Sent: Monday, May 22, 2006 9:41 PM Subject: Zenith-List: paint prop tips? > --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Larry" > > BlankWhat's the deal about painting prop tips? I thought it was > required. It is on the EAA check list. I asked IVOPROP about it and > they said not to do it, it would affect the balance. I can't find a FAR > about it. When I had my gyro inspected, the DAR told me to paint them. > > "Are the propeller tips painted for visibility?" That's off the EAA > check list. > > Do we or don't we? Anyone know for sure? > > > Larry Martin, www.skyhawg.com > > > ________________________________ Message 22 ____________________________________ Time: 10:24:19 PM PST US From: "David Mikesell" Subject: Zenith-List: New list member, building a CH601HD --> Zenith-List message posted by: "David Mikesell" Hi, built a few planes, helicopters and gyros now doing a CH601HD. Anyone have a set of 95 and 110mm flanging dies to rent? David Mikesell 23597 N. Hwy 99 Acampo, CA 95220 209-609-8774 skyguynca@skyguynca.com www.skyguynca.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Edward Moody II" Sent: Monday, May 22, 2006 9:42 PM Subject: Re: Zenith-List: thrust..... > --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Edward Moody II" > > Yep, Chuck Norris flies a Corvair and he lost his virginity before his > father did. > > Ed Moody II > > Do Not Archive > > Do Not Mess With Chuck Norris either > > > --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Craig Payne" > > > > Corvair-powered planes are so fast they land before they take-off. > > > > -- Craig > >