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1. 12:20 AM - Re: Had a great days flying (Dave Ruddiman)
2. 01:34 AM - Re: Had a great days flying (Jonathan Starke)
3. 05:44 AM - Re: Had a great days flying (Robert L. Stone)
4. 06:35 AM - Zenith Open Hanger Day (Fred or Sandy Hulen)
5. 07:46 AM - Re: (Leo Gates)
6. 07:46 AM - Re: 701 wing tie-down points (billmileski)
7. 08:03 AM - Re: Zenith Open Hanger Day ()
8. 08:37 AM - 601 Forward Tilting Canopy - Pdf Document (zuluonecat)
9. 08:51 AM - Re: Zenith Open Hanger Day (Tom and Bren Henderson)
10. 09:23 AM - Re: Canopy paint trim (lgingell)
11. 09:36 AM - Re: Zenith Open Hanger Day (2thesky)
12. 10:32 AM - Re: 601 Forward Tilting Canopy - Pdf Document (Craig Payne)
13. 10:39 AM - Re: Re: Zenith Open Hanger Day (Beckman, Rick)
14. 10:44 AM - Zenith Open Hanger Day Where? (TYA2)
15. 10:59 AM - Re: Zenith Open Hanger Day Where? (Beckman, Rick)
16. 11:13 AM - LSA Diesel ?? (bob west)
17. 11:25 AM - Re: LSA Diesel ?? (John Marzulli)
18. 12:28 PM - Re: LSA Diesel ?? (Paul Mulwitz)
19. 01:19 PM - Re: LSA Diesel ?? (bob west)
20. 01:19 PM - Dynon EMS D10 (Jim)
21. 01:36 PM - Re: Dynon EMS D10 (Tom and Bren Henderson)
22. 01:59 PM - Re: Dynon EMS D10 ()
23. 02:14 PM - Re: (Gig Giacona)
24. 02:18 PM - The best recovery chute installation I have seen on a 601 (Craig Payne)
25. 02:20 PM - Re: Dynon EMS D10 (NYTerminat@aol.com)
26. 02:30 PM - Gull-wing Doors (Samm Munn)
27. 02:52 PM - Re: RE : My Abbotsford Air Show - link to sailplane video (2thesky)
28. 02:53 PM - Re: ()
29. 02:59 PM - Ivoprop Question (Paul Moore)
30. 03:01 PM - Re: (Gig Giacona)
31. 04:12 PM - Re: Zenith Open Hanger Day (Robert L. Stone)
32. 04:27 PM - Re: (Gary Boothe)
33. 04:57 PM - Re: Gull-wing Doors (TYA2)
34. 05:35 PM - Re: Gull-wing Doors (LarryMcFarland)
35. 06:20 PM - Hobbs (Tommy Walker)
36. 06:59 PM - 801 RIVET SUBSTITUTION (Dave Ruddiman)
37. 07:56 PM - Re: 801 RIVET SUBSTITUTION (LRM)
38. 07:56 PM - Re: Ivoprop Question (LRM)
39. 08:03 PM - Re: Hobbs (NYTerminat@aol.com)
40. 08:24 PM - Re: Zenith Open Hanger Day (Danny Offill)
41. 09:16 PM - Re: 801 RIVET SUBSTITUTION (Dave Ruddiman)
42. 09:25 PM - Re: 801 RIVET SUBSTITUTION (George Swinford)
43. 10:27 PM - Re: 801 RIVET SUBSTITUTION (Dave Ruddiman)
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| Subject: | Re: Had a great days flying |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Dave Ruddiman" <pacificpainting@comcast.net>
Nice picture. Where are you?
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jonathan Starke" <jonathan@entry.co.za>
Sent: Monday, August 14, 2006 11:01 PM
Subject: Zenith-List: Had a great days flying
> Hi All,
>
> Trying to resend this mail, as there was a problem yesterday, Had a great
> day of
> flying on Sunday, take a look at the attached photo.
>
> Hope it comes thru this time.
>
> Jonathan Starke
>
> DO NOT ARCHIVE.
>
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| Subject: | Had a great days flying |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Jonathan Starke" <jonathan@entry.co.za>
>Nice picture. Where are you?
I am based in Cape Town South Africa, and the photo was taken just over the
breakers on the west coast, about 5 miles from Central Cape Town at about 500
feet AGL.
The photo was take by a friend, flying in his CTsw - thru the plexiglass, hence
the bit of shadow etc.
Jonathan Starke
DO NOT ARCHIVE
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| Subject: | Re: Had a great days flying |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Robert L. Stone" <rstone4@hot.rr.com>
Jonathan,
With a ID number like ZU-EEC you must be from someplace exotic, where
are you in the world??? The picture caame thru just fine and it's a good
looking flying machine.
Bob Stone, Harker Heights
(In exotic Texas)
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jonathan Starke" <jonathan@entry.co.za>
Sent: Tuesday, August 15, 2006 1:01 AM
Subject: Zenith-List: Had a great days flying
> Hi All,
>
> Trying to resend this mail, as there was a problem yesterday, Had a great
> day of
> flying on Sunday, take a look at the attached photo.
>
> Hope it comes thru this time.
>
> Jonathan Starke
>
> DO NOT ARCHIVE.
>
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| Subject: | Zenith Open Hanger Day |
Hey... !!! It's time to get excited about going to Zenith's 15th
Annual Open Hanger Day, this coming weekend (Aug 19th) ! In addition to
the usual festivities, there's an air show scheduled there too, starting
at noon. Check it out on Zenith's web page.
Who's going? Come on you guys, fall in line, lets make the folks at
Zenith proud. Weather allowing I'll be flying in.
Who else is planning on being there?
Fred Hulen
"601LX"
Jabiru 3300 powered 601 HDS, now with over 260 hours...
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| Subject: | Re: Zenith-List: |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Leo Gates <leogates@allvantage.com>
Bob,
I have a CH601HDS TDO with a Rotax 912UL and Magnum Ivoprop - In-flight
adjustable. 100+ hours. I am now fling as a Sport Pilot.
I lost lost my canopy a short time back - Wind storm, my boo boo.
I should have it flying in a couple of weeks. I live in the Zuehl
Flying Community on Zuehl Airport (1TE4) just east of Randolph AFB.
I would be more than happy to fly up and let you fly it.
Let me know. (830)914-4333
354 Cub Dr
Marion, TX 78124-6501
Leo Gates
Robert L. Stone wrote:
> Members,
> The insurance company (Falcon) says that I must have time in a
> Zodiac before they will insure me. My question now is, is anyone a
> reasonable distance from me who ownes a completed Zodiac 601 willing
> to let me fly their aircraft from either the left or right seat with
> them along of course so I can qualify for insurance. I live in
> Central Texas close fo Fort Hood. The small town I live in is just a
> dot on the map and the closest town of any size is Killeen, It's half
> way between Lampasas and Temple. I am willing to pay for wear and
> tear on your airplane, fuel, and your time,
>
> Bob Stone, Harker Heights, Tx
> DO NOT ARCHIVE
>
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| Subject: | Re: 701 wing tie-down points |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "billmileski" <mileski@sonalysts.com>
Thanks.. didn't think to check the plans, and not sure mine will have it, mine
are circa 2003, but will check. And thanks for the pic, Chuck, it looks like
that would work well too. So I should be all set.
Bill
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| Subject: | Re: Zenith Open Hanger Day |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: <dredmoody@cox.net>
I'm planning on flying my 601XL / Jabiru 3300 to the factory Open Hangar Day .....
in 2008!
Mark your calendars.... see you there,
Ed Moody II
Rayne, LA
2nd wing
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---- Fred or Sandy Hulen <hulens61@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> Hey... !!! It's time to get excited about going to Zenith's 15th Annual Open
Hanger Day, this coming weekend (Aug 19th) ! In addition to the usual festivities,
there's an air show scheduled there too, starting at noon. Check it out
on Zenith's web page.
>
> Who's going? Come on you guys, fall in line, lets make the folks at Zenith
proud. Weather allowing I'll be flying in.
>
> Who else is planning on being there?
>
> Fred Hulen
> "601LX"
> Jabiru 3300 powered 601 HDS, now with over 260 hours...
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| Subject: | 601 Forward Tilting Canopy - Pdf Document |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "zuluonecat" <easternflyingclub@hotmail.com>
Hi all,
I remember surfing up a nice Zenithair PDF document (photo's and instructions)
on the XL forward tilting canopy mechanism, but I can't seem to find it anywhere...
can someone post the link if they know the whereabouts?
Thanks and Regards,
Chris.
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| Subject: | Re: Zenith Open Hanger Day |
Sounds like it's going to be a lot of fun, but it's on the wrong side of
the country for me.
For the rest of us that aren't lucky enough to be flying cross country to
Missouri, there's an alternative. The Northwest Antique Airplane Fly-in is being
held in my home town of McMinnville, Oregon this weekend. I've attended the
last three years, and have yet to be disappointed.
On average, you'll see about 800 of the most beautifully restored airplanes
you've ever seen, along with quite a good selection of homebuilts. We had three
Beech Staggerwings and a Thunder Mustang parked together last year. There's
a small air show Saturday and Sunday too (Saturday's show is the better of
the two). Add to that the chance to ride in a T6, a Stearman or a sailplane
for a decent price, and you're got yourself a great weekend!
I've heard through the grapevine that at least two 601's may be there, and
of course you'll find at least fifteen or twenty RV's since the factory is right
around the corner to us (20 miles or so).
Here's a link to their site: http://www.nwaac.com/macfly/index.html
Hope to see you there!
Tom Henderson
601XL Fuselage
Corvair powered?
Fred or Sandy Hulen <hulens61@comcast.net> wrote:
Hey... !!! It's time to get excited about going to Zenith's 15th Annual Open
Hanger Day, this coming weekend (Aug 19th) ! In addition to the usual festivities,
there's an air show scheduled there too, starting at noon. Check it
out on Zenith's web page.
Who's going? Come on you guys, fall in line, lets make the folks at Zenith
proud. Weather allowing I'll be flying in.
Who else is planning on being there?
Fred Hulen
"601LX"
Jabiru 3300 powered 601 HDS, now with over 260 hours...
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| Subject: | Re: Canopy paint trim |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "lgingell" <lgingell@matrix-logic.com>
Larry,
The inside of mine (and the bows) are flat grey to reduce reflection (and I used
the primer before assembly!!). Looks great.
The outside flashing and the rest of the entire plane was painted with my XL hinged
canopy attached to the airplane. Just masked the bubble inside and out, and
moved it with a wood 'handle' during painting to get the top skin coverage
(othewise the canopy is in the way).
Cheers,
..lance
http://lancegingell.com/plane.asp
XL/3300 almost 100hrs.
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http://lancegingell.com/plane.asp
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| Subject: | Re: Zenith Open Hanger Day |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "2thesky" <biggerspurs@hotmail.com>
I am not a builder, or even a current pilot, and I am going to drive a few hours
to get to actually see an XL in person. If I am going to begin flying again,
the cost is going to require I fly a cheaper airplane. At first, I looked at
LSA's because I had to. Now, after doing some reading, I think I would rather
fly an LSA than the 150 HP, 2400 lb plane I was used to. AND, now I want to
build a plane, a little scared about it, but I want to. I would make the trip
for the air-show. Getting to the Zenith Open HAngar Day is a huge plus. I
am hoping that some one with an XL and dual sticks will allow me the privilege
of sitting in and "trying on" their airplane. I have a few concerns about an
airplane of that size and I am hoping that seeing some in person and hopefully
getting to visit the builder/pilots will answer my questions/concerns and give
me the final push to go ahead and tackle such a task.
--------
Every takeoff is optional, but every landing is mandatory!
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| Subject: | 601 Forward Tilting Canopy - Pdf Document |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Craig Payne" <craig@craigandjean.com>
Sounds like you may be thinking of the photo assembly guides. They are
linked here:
www.zenithair.com/zodiac/xl/xl-up-manuals.html
The canopy documents are:
www.zenithair.com/zodiac/xl/data/6-c-1.pdf
www.zenithair.com/zodiac/xl/data/6-c-2.pdf
www.zenithair.com/zodiac/xl/data/6-c-3.pdf
www.zenithair.com/zodiac/xl/data/6-c-3a.pdf
www.zenithair.com/zodiac/xl/data/6-c-3b.pdf
www.zenithair.com/zodiac/xl/data/6-c-3c.pdf
www.zenithair.com/zodiac/xl/data/6-c-3d.pdf
www.zenithair.com/zodiac/xl/data/6-c-4.pdf
-- Craig
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| Subject: | Re: Zenith Open Hanger Day |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Beckman, Rick" <Rick.Beckman@atk.com>
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "2thesky" <biggerspurs@hotmail.com>
I am not a builder, or even a current pilot, and I am going to drive a
few hours to get to actually see an XL in person.
Dear "2thesky"
If you are serious about getting more familiar
with the XL, call Zenith and set up a demo flight for Saturday at the
Open Hangar. They only have a certain amount of time for these flights,
so call and set up a reservation and ENJOY!!
Rick Beckman
www.sharbo.us/thebird
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| Subject: | Zenith Open Hanger Day Where? |
Which hanger, which factory, Midland, Ontario; Mexico, Missouri, Or
Georgia?
Rocky in Canada
At 08:34 AM 8/15/2006 -0500, you wrote:
>
>Hey... !!! It's time to get excited about going to Zenith's 15th Annual
>Open Hanger Day, this coming weekend (Aug 19th) ! In addition to the
>usual festivities, there's an air show scheduled there too, starting at
>noon. Check it out on Zenith's web page.
>
>Who's going? Come on you guys, fall in line, lets make the folks at
>Zenith proud. Weather allowing I'll be flying in.
>
>Who else is planning on being there?
>
>Fred Hulen
>"601LX"
DO NOT ARCHIVE!!!
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| Subject: | Zenith Open Hanger Day Where? |
Which hanger, which factory, Midland, Ontario; Mexico, Missouri, Or
Georgia?
Rocky in Canada
Mexico, Mo
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Greetings, Lurking for some time. My partner and I are finishing a 701 (paint
drying as we speak). Firewall plumbed for 912S along with a mount. To make
a long story short -- while I was at Oshkosh, I sat across from 2 gentlemen talking
to an engineer from what I believe was CT. They were talking about a new
lightweight diesel made in the U.S. that was smaller in physical size than the
912S and had better fuel consumption than the 914. The only downside was the
weight was 179# with comparable 912S accessories. Full FADEC control. It
is suppose to be installed in a 701 by September and flying it's 40 hrs. off by
sometime in October. I am trying to find anyone who knows something about Vulcan
Aircraft Engines, Inc.
Thanks in advance,
Bob West lsabuilder@yahoo.com
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| Subject: | Re: LSA Diesel ?? |
Do you know if it's an auto gas diesel or a Jet-A like the new Diamonds
have?
On 8/15/06, bob west <lsabuilder@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> Greetings, Lurking for some time. My partner and I are finishing a 701
> (paint drying as we speak). Firewall plumbed for 912S along with a mount.
> To make a long story short -- while I was at Oshkosh, I sat across from 2
> gentlemen talking to an engineer from what I believe was CT. They were
> talking about a new lightweight diesel made in the U.S. that was smaller
> in physical size than the 912S and had better fuel consumption than the
> 914. The only downside was the weight was 179# with comparable 912S
> accessories. Full FADEC control. It is suppose to be installed in a 701 by
> September and flying it's 40 hrs. off by sometime in October. I am trying
> to find anyone who knows something about Vulcan Aircraft Engines, Inc.
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Bob West lsabuilder@yahoo.com
>
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harder to put baseball cards in the spokes.
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| Subject: | Re: LSA Diesel ?? |
Sorry, I don't have the information you are seeking. However, I have
been thinking about using a Diesel in my LSA for some time. I would
like to make a comment or two.
First, I think the Diesel engine is ideal for an airplane. It likes
to run at a constant RPM - just like the way we fly our planes. It
also runs on nearly any fuel including filtered restaurant frying grease.
The down side is the fact that the small airports we tend to frequent
don't offer fuel for this type of engine. You would have to tote the
fuel to your airport and load it into your plane for each
flight. This is more of a problem when on a trip. In that case you
are just plain stuck. This is a similar problem for the people who
run on auto gas at home but can't really get it while travelling.
You can use jet fuel in a diesel, but I think operating a 701 into
the large fields needed by jets might be a bit cumbersome. You would
also probably get a sour face from the jet fuel truck operator when
he learns he needs to figure out how to pump you 3 or 4 gallons of
fuel to top off your plane.
Paul
XL fuselage
At 11:11 AM 8/15/2006, you wrote:
>Greetings, Lurking for some time. My partner and I are finishing a
>701 (paint drying as we speak). Firewall plumbed for 912S along
>with a mount. To make a long story short -- while I was at Oshkosh,
>I sat across from 2 gentlemen talking to an engineer from what I
>believe was CT. They were talking about a new lightweight diesel
>made in the U.S. that was smaller in physical size than the 912S and
>had better fuel consumption than the 914. The only downside was the
>weight was 179# with comparable 912S accessories. Full FADEC
>control. It is suppose to be installed in a 701 by September and
>flying it's 40 hrs. off by sometime in October. I am trying to find
>anyone who knows something about Vulcan Aircraft Engines, Inc.
>
>Thanks in advance,
>
>Bob West <mailto:lsabuilder@yahoo.com>lsabuilder@yahoo.com
>
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| Subject: | Re: LSA Diesel ?? |
John,
I do remember them saying it could use #2 diesel, jet A, JP-8 ??, and bio-diesel
if it has the correct lubricity.
Bob
John Marzulli <john.marzulli@gmail.com> wrote:
Do you know if it's an auto gas diesel or a Jet-A like the new Diamonds have?
On 8/15/06, bob west <lsabuilder@yahoo.com > wrote: Greetings, Lurking
for some time. My partner and I are finishing a 701 (paint drying as we speak).
Firewall plumbed for 912S along with a mount. To make a long story short
-- while I was at Oshkosh, I sat across from 2 gentlemen talking to an engineer
from what I believe was CT. They were talking about a new lightweight diesel
made in the U.S. that was smaller in physical size than the 912S and had better
fuel consumption than the 914. The only downside was the weight was 179#
with comparable 912S accessories. Full FADEC control. It is suppose to be installed
in a 701 by September and flying it's 40 hrs. off by sometime in October.
I am trying to find anyone who knows something about Vulcan Aircraft Engines,
Inc.
Thanks in advance,
Bob West lsabuilder@yahoo.com
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Jabiru Users,
Has anyone tried using the Dynon EMS E10 with a Jabiru 3300?
I've not been able to get the tach to work properly with this engine. It reads
about 300 RPM low and gets worse at higher speeds. I set the multiplier as
high as the software will allow me but it still reads too low, any thoughts?
Thanks Jim 105JT 601XL
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| Subject: | Re: Dynon EMS D10 |
Dynon may be able to supply you with a software update to correct your problem.
I'm still half-considering going with the Jab and Dynon, so I would be curious
to hear the resolution to your problem.
Jim <aspen1150@yahoo.com> wrote: Jabiru Users,
Has anyone tried using the Dynon EMS E10 with a Jabiru 3300?
I've not been able to get the tach to work properly with this engine. It reads
about 300 RPM low and gets worse at higher speeds. I set the multiplier as
high as the software will allow me but it still reads too low, any thoughts?
Thanks Jim 105JT 601XL
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: <dredmoody@cox.net>
>From what I've read on the Yahoo jabiru engine list, my first guess would be that
the pickup (sensor) is set too far from the flywheel. Have you checked to
see that the tach pickup is adjusted close enough to the flywheel to not "miss"
any revs as the speed increases?
Ed Moody II
> Jim <aspen1150@yahoo.com> wrote: Jabiru Users,
> Has anyone tried using the Dynon EMS E10 with a Jabiru 3300?
> I've not been able to get the tach to work properly with this engine. It reads
about 300 RPM low and gets worse at higher speeds. I set the multiplier as
high as the software will allow me but it still reads too low, any thoughts?
> Thanks Jim 105JT 601XL
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Gig Giacona" <wr.giacona@cox.net>
I had a conversation with the FSDO here in Arkansas a few months back and asked
if an inflight adjustable prop would be compatible with LSA or a PPL holder flying
as a Sport Pilot and the answer after consideration was NO.
At the time I asked the question I even hypothesized a system where the power to
the electrical inflight adjustable prop could be locked out for a SP. The answer
was NO.
I'm not going to narc on you but I thought you'd like to know what at least one
FSDO had to say about it.
leogates(at)allvantage.co wrote:
>
>
> I have a CH601HDS TDO with a Rotax 912UL and Magnum Ivoprop - In-flight
> adjustable. 100+ hours. I am now fling as a Sport Pilot.
>
>
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601XL Under Construction
See my progress at www.peoamerica.net/N601WR
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| Subject: | The best recovery chute installation I have seen on a 601 |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Craig Payne" <craig@craigandjean.com>
If you are interested in installing a ballistic recovery parachute on a
metal plane like the 601 series take look at Scott Laughlin's web site:
www.cooknwithgas.com/BRS.html
He has solved the problem of running the external harness lines in a
beautiful way.
Congratulations Scott - I hope you never have to deploy it!
-- Craig
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| Subject: | Re: Dynon EMS D10 |
Or it may need a resistor across the input so that it doesn't miss those
spikes fro the sensor
Bob Spudis
In a message dated 8/15/2006 5:01:29 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
dredmoody@cox.net writes:
>From what I've read on the Yahoo jabiru engine list, my first guess would
be that the pickup (sensor) is set too far from the flywheel. Have you checked
to see that the tach pickup is adjusted close enough to the flywheel to not
"miss" any revs as the speed increases?
Ed Moody II
> Jim <aspen1150@yahoo.com> wrote: Jabiru Users,
> Has anyone tried using the Dynon EMS E10 with a Jabiru 3300?
> I've not been able to get the tach to work properly with this engine. It
reads about 300 RPM low and gets worse at higher speeds. I set the
multiplier as high as the software will allow me but it still reads too low, any
thoughts?
> Thanks Jim 105JT 601XL
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I am considering replacing the canopy with gull-wing doors like that on
the CH2000. Does anyone have information on how I should go about that
change? Anyone have drawings or suggestions as to how I could
accomplish this?
Samm Munn
Zenith 601XL (plans builder), Corvair
(129% to go)
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| Subject: | Re: RE : My Abbotsford Air Show - link to sailplane video |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "2thesky" <biggerspurs@hotmail.com>
That is really cool. If you ever get a chance to see Bob Carlton in his jet powered,
self launching glider, it is also a good show.
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: <dredmoody@cox.net>
What we have here is a situation very similar to asking a barber if you need a
haircut. If you ask a beaurocrat if something is legal, he or she must answer
in the most conservative way possible, just in case someone might think it could
be veiwed as illegal under some circumstance. If the power to the pitch control
motor is not accessible inflight, ie. the switch is removed from the cockpit
and 12VDC power can only be applied to adjust pitch while on the ground, it
is a ground adjustable prop. Period.
Ed Moody II
---- Gig Giacona <wr.giacona@cox.net> wrote:
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Gig Giacona" <wr.giacona@cox.net>
>
> I had a conversation with the FSDO here in Arkansas a few months back and asked
if an inflight adjustable prop would be compatible with LSA or a PPL holder
flying as a Sport Pilot and the answer after consideration was NO.
>
> At the time I asked the question I even hypothesized a system where the power
to the electrical inflight adjustable prop could be locked out for a SP. The
answer was NO.
>
> I'm not going to narc on you but I thought you'd like to know what at least one
FSDO had to say about it.
>
>
>
> leogates(at)allvantage.co wrote:
> >
> >
> > I have a CH601HDS TDO with a Rotax 912UL and Magnum Ivoprop - In-flight
> > adjustable. 100+ hours. I am now fling as a Sport Pilot.
> >
> >
>
>
> --------
> W.R. "Gig" Giacona
> 601XL Under Construction
> See my progress at www.peoamerica.net/N601WR
>
>
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=55023#55023
>
>
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>
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>
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| Subject: | Ivoprop Question |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Paul Moore" <pmoore505@msn.com>
Leo,
What do you think of the Magnum Ivoprop? I am very near deciding on Ivoprop
for my O200 but have heard the Magnum blade may be too wide for 100hp and I
should stick to their medium blade profile. Since you're running a 912UL, do
you have any thoughts you'd be willing to share? I'll also be flying SP so
no in-flight adjustment for me.
Paul
XL - O200
----- Original Message -----
From: "Leo Gates" <leogates@allvantage.com>
> I have a CH601HDS TDO with a Rotax 912UL and Magnum Ivoprop - In-flight
> adjustable. 100+ hours. I am now fling as a Sport Pilot.
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Gig Giacona" <wr.giacona@cox.net>
You are proably right but the scenario I gave him was a switch on the outside of
the aircraft that would kill the power to the prop. No removing the control
from the aircraft.
Either way this is the same guy who could violate me if he saw me flying the plane
as an SP.
dredmoody(at)cox.net wrote:
> What we have here is a situation very similar to asking a barber if you need
a haircut. If you ask a beaurocrat if something is legal, he or she must answer
in the most conservative way possible, just in case someone might think it could
be veiwed as illegal under some circumstance. If the power to the pitch control
motor is not accessible inflight, ie. the switch is removed from the cockpit
and 12VDC power can only be applied to adjust pitch while on the ground,
it is a ground adjustable prop. Period.
>
> Ed Moody II
>
> ---- Gig Giacona wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > I had a conversation with the FSDO here in Arkansas a few months back and
asked if an inflight adjustable prop would be compatible with LSA or a PPL holder
flying as a Sport Pilot and the answer after consideration was NO.
> >
> > At the time I asked the question I even hypothesized a system where the power
to the electrical inflight adjustable prop could be locked out for a SP. The
answer was NO.
> >
> > I'm not going to narc on you but I thought you'd like to know what at least
one FSDO had to say about it.
> >
> >
> >
> > leogates(at)allvantage.co wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > I have a CH601HDS TDO with a Rotax 912UL and Magnum Ivoprop - In-flight
> > > adjustable. 100+ hours. I am now fling as a Sport Pilot.
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > --------
> > W.R. "Gig" Giacona
> > 601XL Under Construction
> > See my progress at www.peoamerica.net/N601WR
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Read this topic online here:
> >
> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=55023#55023
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
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W.R. "Gig" Giacona
601XL Under Construction
See my progress at www.peoamerica.net/N601WR
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| Subject: | Re: Zenith Open Hanger Day |
Hi Fred,
I am building an XL and plan on using the Jabiru 3300 engine. I
just was wondering what you think of this engine. I saw one down at
Georgetown airport over the weekend in a hanger where a man was just
starting a quick build XL and he had the Jabiru 3300 there on a test
stand but had not prepared it to run yet so I have never heard one run.
All I can say at this point is, if it runs as good as it looks, I know I
will be happy with it.
Bob Stone, Harker Heights, Tx
DO NOT ARCHIVE
----- Original Message -----
From: Fred or Sandy Hulen
To: Zenith List
Sent: Tuesday, August 15, 2006 8:34 AM
Subject: Zenith-List: Zenith Open Hanger Day
Hey... !!! It's time to get excited about going to Zenith's 15th
Annual Open Hanger Day, this coming weekend (Aug 19th) ! In addition to
the usual festivities, there's an air show scheduled there too, starting
at noon. Check it out on Zenith's web page.
Who's going? Come on you guys, fall in line, lets make the folks at
Zenith proud. Weather allowing I'll be flying in.
Who else is planning on being there?
Fred Hulen
"601LX"
Jabiru 3300 powered 601 HDS, now with over 260 hours...
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As I recall: Ground adjustable - OK. In flight adjustable - Not OK. I don't
recall any verbage about how the adjustment is accomplished.
Gary Boothe
Cool, CA
601 HDSTD, WW Conversion
Tail done, wings almost done....
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Gig Giacona" <wr.giacona@cox.net>
You are proably right but the scenario I gave him was a switch on the
outside of the aircraft that would kill the power to the prop. No removing
the control from the aircraft.
dredmoody(at)cox.net wrote:
> What we have here is a situation very similar to asking a barber if you
need a haircut. If you ask a beaurocrat if something is legal, he or she
must answer in the most conservative way possible, just in case someone
might think it could be veiwed as illegal under some circumstance. If the
power to the pitch control motor is not accessible inflight, ie. the switch
is removed from the cockpit and 12VDC power can only be applied to adjust
pitch while on the ground, it is a ground adjustable prop. Period.
>
> Ed Moody II
>
> ---- Gig Giacona wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > I had a conversation with the FSDO here in Arkansas a few months back
and asked if an inflight adjustable prop would be compatible with LSA or a
PPL holder flying as a Sport Pilot and the answer after consideration was
NO.
> >
> > At the time I asked the question I even hypothesized a system where the
power to the electrical inflight adjustable prop could be locked out for a
SP. The answer was NO.
> >
> > I'm not going to narc on you but I thought you'd like to know what at
least one FSDO had to say about it.
> >
> >
> >
> > leogates(at)allvantage.co wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > I have a CH601HDS TDO with a Rotax 912UL and Magnum Ivoprop -
In-flight
> > > adjustable. 100+ hours. I am now fling as a Sport Pilot.
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > --------
> > W.R. "Gig" Giacona
> > 601XL Under Construction
> > See my progress at www.peoamerica.net/N601WR
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Read this topic online here:
> >
> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=55023#55023
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
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W.R. "Gig" Giacona
601XL Under Construction
See my progress at www.peoamerica.net/N601WR
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| Subject: | Re: Gull-wing Doors |
Dear Samm,
I own a CH2000. The factory offers an upgrade kit out of Georgia with all
of the parts necessary to do the change over from the old style CH2000 to
AMD Alarus style Ch2000. Go to www.newplane.com prices can be found in
the owners section. The information is kind of scanty but the pictures of
the CH640 construction on one of the local builders websites will show you
how it is done.
Personally the best kind of Canopy is the AA-1 or AA-5 style as used in the
Grumman AA-x series. Split in the middle and slides back like an
F-86... You can choose to fly with the canopy open and that is a fine
feeling on warm days. Turn off the radios and fly nordo through the mountains
Rocky near Edmonton, AB
At 04:30 PM 8/15/2006 -0500, you wrote:
>I am considering replacing the canopy with gull-wing doors like that on
>the CH2000. Does anyone have information on how I should go about that
>change? Anyone have drawings or suggestions as to how I could accomplish this?
>
>Samm Munn
>Zenith 601XL (plans builder), Corvair
>(129% to go)
>
>
><http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Zenith-List>http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Zenith-List
><http://www.matronics.com/contribution>http://www.matronics.com/contribution
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| Subject: | Re: Gull-wing Doors |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: LarryMcFarland <larry@macsmachine.com>
Samm,
The gull wing doors I've seen on a few 601 series weren't too well
represented. The problem being that the stability between the vertical
edges had no serious
framework to keep things in sound alignment in flight. The hinges at
the top were placed too far apart to allow both to be open at the same
time. I suspect the
added framework for rigidity at the hinges would add some considerable
weight as well. The gull wing doors are best seen on the composite type
aircraft where
support is full perimeter. The complexity is a challenge and I hope
you're able to do better than the ones I've seen so far. It's a neat
concept if done well, but that's
the hard part with this bubble canopy and for all of the above, I'd be
reluctant to do it.
The forward tilt canopy is really much easier to do and use, but that's
just an opinion.
Good luck, seriously,
Larry McFarland - 601HDS at www.macsmachine.com
Samm Munn wrote:
> I am considering replacing the canopy with gull-wing doors like that
> on the CH2000. Does anyone have information on how I should go about
> that change? Anyone have drawings or suggestions as to how I could
> accomplish this?
>
> Samm Munn
> Zenith 601XL (plans builder), Corvair
> (129% to go)
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Tommy Walker" <twalker@cableone.net>
Listers,
I'm looking for an option power up the Hobbs on my 701 with Rotax 912S. I found this: http://mypage.uniserve.ca/~traveler/powergenie/index.html
Has anyone used it, or have another option? I heard there was a pressure switch
that uses a vacant port on the 912 Oil System.
Thanks,
Tommy Walker in Alabama
Do Not Archive
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| Subject: | 801 RIVET SUBSTITUTION |
Can anyone give me a reason why I can't use an AN bolt on my 801 wing
spar instead of a A6 pop rivet? There is only one on each. If they sent
them, which they probably did, I can't find them. I assume the bolt is a
lot stronger than a rivet anyway.
Dave in Salem
801
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| Subject: | Re: 801 RIVET SUBSTITUTION |
That's what I used on my 701 and the horizontal too. And they sent me
rivets. It just felt better. Your assumption is correct. Larry,
N1345L, www.skyhawg.com
----- Original Message -----
From: Dave Ruddiman
To: zenith-list@matronics.com
Sent: Tuesday, August 15, 2006 8:59 PM
Subject: Zenith-List: 801 RIVET SUBSTITUTION
Can anyone give me a reason why I can't use an AN bolt on my 801 wing
spar instead of a A6 pop rivet? There is only one on each. If they sent
them, which they probably did, I can't find them. I assume the bolt is a
lot stronger than a rivet anyway.
Dave in Salem
801
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8/9/2006
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| Subject: | Re: Ivoprop Question |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "LRM" <lrm@skyhawg.com>
You can take this for what it's worth. I just got an IVOProp. It shook
like a big dog, sent it back, got a refund, went back to my Warp Drive, nice
and smooth. The Harley has a lot of torsional vibration. especially at low
RPM, smoothes out at about 2000. That is due to the Harley having only two
very large pistons, "4 3/8" and high compression 10.1 to 1. Using a short
stiffer prop, 64" HP, seemed to solve the problem. The longer (70") lighter
built IVOProp seemed to have too much flex. The tip tracking was at least
1/2' deflection. I may have just gotten a out of balance IVOProp, because
it never smoothed out. Larry, N1345L, www.airhawg.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Paul Moore" <pmoore505@msn.com>
Sent: Tuesday, August 15, 2006 4:57 PM
Subject: Zenith-List: Ivoprop Question
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Paul Moore" <pmoore505@msn.com>
>
> Leo,
>
> What do you think of the Magnum Ivoprop? I am very near deciding on
> Ivoprop
> for my O200 but have heard the Magnum blade may be too wide for 100hp and
> I
> should stick to their medium blade profile. Since you're running a 912UL,
> do
> you have any thoughts you'd be willing to share? I'll also be flying SP so
> no in-flight adjustment for me.
>
> Paul
> XL - O200
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Leo Gates" <leogates@allvantage.com>
>
>> I have a CH601HDS TDO with a Rotax 912UL and Magnum Ivoprop - In-flight
>> adjustable. 100+ hours. I am now fling as a Sport Pilot.
>
>
> --
> No virus found in this incoming message.
>
>
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Simply hook it up to your Alternator switch, it will only run when you have
your alt switch on which should only be while the engine is running
In a message dated 8/15/2006 9:22:37 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
twalker@cableone.net writes:
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Tommy Walker" <twalker@cableone.net>
Listers,
I'm looking for an option power up the Hobbs on my 701 with Rotax 912S. I
found this: http://mypage.uniserve.ca/~traveler/powergenie/index.html
Has anyone used it, or have another option? I heard there was a pressure
switch that uses a vacant port on the 912 Oil System.
Thanks,
Tommy Walker in Alabama
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| Subject: | Zenith Open Hanger Day |
I'm attending the rudder workshop and will be hanging over for a while on
Saturday for the open hangar day.
Danny Offill
601XL tail kit on order
Van Alstyne, Texas 'Do not archive'
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Fred or Sandy
Hulen
Sent: Tuesday, August 15, 2006 8:34 AM
To: Zenith List
Subject: Zenith-List: Zenith Open Hanger Day
Hey... !!! It's time to get excited about going to Zenith's 15th Annual
Open Hanger Day, this coming weekend (Aug 19th) ! In addition to the usual
festivities, there's an air show scheduled there too, starting at noon.
Check it out on Zenith's web page.
Who's going? Come on you guys, fall in line, lets make the folks at
Zenith proud. Weather allowing I'll be flying in.
Who else is planning on being there?
Fred Hulen
"601LX"
Jabiru 3300 powered 601 HDS, now with over 260 hours...
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| Subject: | Re: 801 RIVET SUBSTITUTION |
I forgot until now, but I used some bolts on the HS also. Some places it
just seems stronger.
----- Original Message -----
From: LRM
To: zenith-list@matronics.com
Sent: Tuesday, August 15, 2006 7:55 PM
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: 801 RIVET SUBSTITUTION
That's what I used on my 701 and the horizontal too. And they sent me
rivets. It just felt better. Your assumption is correct. Larry,
N1345L, www.skyhawg.com
----- Original Message -----
From: Dave Ruddiman
To: zenith-list@matronics.com
Sent: Tuesday, August 15, 2006 8:59 PM
Subject: Zenith-List: 801 RIVET SUBSTITUTION
Can anyone give me a reason why I can't use an AN bolt on my 801
wing spar instead of a A6 pop rivet? There is only one on each. If they
sent them, which they probably did, I can't find them. I assume the bolt
is a lot stronger than a rivet anyway.
Dave in Salem
801
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| Subject: | Re: 801 RIVET SUBSTITUTION |
What the A6 rivet has in its favor is that it fills the hole and
therefore it picks up its share of the normal operating load. The bolt
is stronger, but if it isn't a tight fit in the hole it only goes to
work when the structure is already distorted some. In a critical
location a close tolerance bolt in a reamed hole is called for. An AN3
or AN4 bolt in a drilled hole probably isn't tight enough. How critical
is the particular hole in the spar? Good question.
George
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----- Original Message -----
From: LRM
To: zenith-list@matronics.com
Sent: Tuesday, August 15, 2006 7:55 PM
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: 801 RIVET SUBSTITUTION
That's what I used on my 701 and the horizontal too. And they sent me
rivets. It just felt better. Your assumption is correct. Larry,
N1345L, www.skyhawg.com
----- Original Message -----
From: Dave Ruddiman
To: zenith-list@matronics.com
Sent: Tuesday, August 15, 2006 8:59 PM
Subject: Zenith-List: 801 RIVET SUBSTITUTION
Can anyone give me a reason why I can't use an AN bolt on my 801
wing spar instead of a A6 pop rivet? There is only one on each. If they
sent them, which they probably did, I can't find them. I assume the bolt
is a lot stronger than a rivet anyway.
Dave in Salem
801
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| Subject: | Re: 801 RIVET SUBSTITUTION |
I don't think it is critical enough to be concerned about. The hole I
drilled out is a good fit. The spar is factory riveted with solid
rivets. The only reason this one isn't done is that the nose rib has to
be attached with that hole along with the others. The spar is doubled in
that area. I'm not concerned about it, just curious about the strength
of the rivet versus bolt.
----- Original Message -----
From: George Swinford
To: zenith-list@matronics.com
Sent: Tuesday, August 15, 2006 9:24 PM
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: 801 RIVET SUBSTITUTION
What the A6 rivet has in its favor is that it fills the hole and
therefore it picks up its share of the normal operating load. The bolt
is stronger, but if it isn't a tight fit in the hole it only goes to
work when the structure is already distorted some. In a critical
location a close tolerance bolt in a reamed hole is called for. An AN3
or AN4 bolt in a drilled hole probably isn't tight enough. How critical
is the particular hole in the spar? Good question.
George
Do not archive
----- Original Message -----
From: LRM
To: zenith-list@matronics.com
Sent: Tuesday, August 15, 2006 7:55 PM
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: 801 RIVET SUBSTITUTION
That's what I used on my 701 and the horizontal too. And they sent
me rivets. It just felt better. Your assumption is correct. Larry,
N1345L, www.skyhawg.com
----- Original Message -----
From: Dave Ruddiman
To: zenith-list@matronics.com
Sent: Tuesday, August 15, 2006 8:59 PM
Subject: Zenith-List: 801 RIVET SUBSTITUTION
Can anyone give me a reason why I can't use an AN bolt on my 801
wing spar instead of a A6 pop rivet? There is only one on each. If they
sent them, which they probably did, I can't find them. I assume the bolt
is a lot stronger than a rivet anyway.
Dave in Salem
801
ronics.com/Navigator?Zenith-List
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