---------------------------------------------------------- Zenith-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sat 08/19/06: 9 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 07:46 AM - (john swanson) 2. 08:17 AM - 601 XL plans wanted (john) 3. 10:05 AM - Re: 601 XL plans wanted (Southern Reflections) 4. 11:23 AM - Re: (Dave Ruddiman) 5. 12:07 PM - Re: 601 XL plans wanted (john) 6. 12:19 PM - Re: (LarryMcFarland) 7. 03:42 PM - XL Canopy on an HD (Jeff) 8. 05:44 PM - Re: XL Canopy on an HD (LarryMcFarland) 9. 06:26 PM - Re: XL Canopy on an HD (N5SL) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 07:46:22 AM PST US From: john swanson Subject: Zenith-List: --> Zenith-List message posted by: john swanson CH701 from Kit I plan on painting with Dupont etching primer and AFS water borne paint to finish. I need advice on what is the best spray gun to use Do not archive John U.P. Mich ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 08:17:49 AM PST US From: "john" Subject: Zenith-List: 601 XL plans wanted I would like to know if anyone is looking to sell their 601XL plans I"d lkie to purchase them Thanks John ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 10:05:51 AM PST US From: "Southern Reflections" Subject: Re: Zenith-List: 601 XL plans wanted John,I have a set that I bought last year complete with binder and disk the no. is good 250.00 thanks Joe ----- Original Message ----- From: john To: zenith-list@matronics.com Sent: Saturday, August 19, 2006 11:16 AM Subject: Zenith-List: 601 XL plans wanted I would like to know if anyone is looking to sell their 601XL plans I"d lkie to purchase them Thanks John ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 11:23:45 AM PST US From: "Dave Ruddiman" Subject: Re: Zenith-List: --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Dave Ruddiman" John, I have a turbine powered HVLP. Basically it is a spray gun with a large diameter hose and the box the turbine is in. The run all over in price. Mine was $1200.00, but I'm a painting contractor so I use it on jobs also. The nice thing about them is they are very portable. No compressor needed. Just plug into the wall. Also, you will use less paint, way less overspray and they are infinitely adjustable as far as material and air flow. I think there is one available with a fresh air mask system. Dave in Salem 801 ----- Original Message ----- From: "john swanson" Sent: Saturday, August 19, 2006 7:43 AM Subject: Zenith-List: > --> Zenith-List message posted by: john swanson > > CH701 from Kit > I plan on painting with Dupont etching primer and AFS > water borne paint to finish. > > I need advice on what is the best spray gun to use > > Do not archive > > John > U.P. Mich > > > ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 12:07:05 PM PST US From: "john" Subject: Re: Zenith-List: 601 XL plans wanted I'am interested please e-mail me at jcl64@scccinternet.com with more info Thanks John ----- Original Message ----- From: Southern Reflections To: zenith-list@matronics.com Sent: Saturday, August 19, 2006 1:04 PM Subject: Re: Zenith-List: 601 XL plans wanted John,I have a set that I bought last year complete with binder and disk the no. is good 250.00 thanks Joe ----- Original Message ----- From: john To: zenith-list@matronics.com Sent: Saturday, August 19, 2006 11:16 AM Subject: Zenith-List: 601 XL plans wanted I would like to know if anyone is looking to sell their 601XL plans I"d lkie to purchase them Thanks John ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 12:19:33 PM PST US From: LarryMcFarland Subject: Re: Zenith-List: --> Zenith-List message posted by: LarryMcFarland John, I've been using the AFS water borne paint and have used the Harbor Freight #43430 HVLP spray gun to do the primer. Good gun! Totally simple to use and adjust. I've been using the DeVilbiss GFG 670 spray gun for finish because I found lots less orange peel on my test panels with it. The DeVilbiss gun is a later development than the HVLP type even though it is a gravity cup type also. It meets the over spray standards held by HVLP and is recognised as being compliant with the intent of HVLP as well. The 43430 is about $40 at Harbor Freight and comes with a 1.4 tip. The GFG 670 is available for $250 from Internet Sources and comes with 3 tips, 1.2, 1.3 and a 1.4mm. The DeVilbiss gun offers a better finish if you're finicky or relatively new to painting, but in the end, you could probably use either gun for finish work that would satisfy. You need a 70 to 80-degree day to get a good result with either. Good luck, Larry McFarland - 601HDS at www.macsmachine.com See the paint page or journal section 10, from April to now on the website if you need further info. john swanson wrote: > --> Zenith-List message posted by: john swanson > > CH701 from Kit > I plan on painting with Dupont etching primer and AFS > water borne paint to finish. > > I need advice on what is the best spray gun to use > > Do not archive > > John > U.P. Mich > > ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 03:42:07 PM PST US From: "Jeff " Subject: Zenith-List: XL Canopy on an HD Listers, I'm making progress! I'm working on the canopy now and have a few questions. In the current photo guide, which was redone about a year ago, it shows a new part 6C3-9. My old canopy plans don't have this part. It is a little gusset that attaches the front tube to the side rails. The photo guide shows three rivets in the tube and three in the steel side rail. Does anyone know how think the material is? I also can't find the pitch for the screws that go through the canopy Plexiglas into the tube. And a third question: I read that the hole in the tube starts out as a number 40. The screws supplied are not self tapping - they have no point. Mine are also number 6s where the new plans call for number 8s. Did those that have built the canopy tap threads into the tube after the #40 hole was drilled? If someone could find or send me the current version of 6C3 I would be appreciative too. Thanks .. Jeff Davidson CH601-HD/Jabiru Herndon, VA About to drill into that plastic bubble .. ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 05:44:52 PM PST US From: LarryMcFarland Subject: Re: Zenith-List: XL Canopy on an HD --> Zenith-List message posted by: LarryMcFarland Jeff, I did the old canopy, so tapping the holes was not an issue. The screws looked a bit like a #6 deck screw and they did tap the hole nicely and get a good grip. I'd recommend you not do anything to the tube or canopy until you've tried the process on a sample-cut piece of tube and similar piece of sample-acrylic. Always easier to evaluate without the stress on a test piece. Only then will you know if the threads called out really work with the #40 hole with or without tapping. Larry McFarland do not archive Jeff wrote: > Listers, > > I'm making progress! I'm working on the canopy now and have a few > questions. In the current photo guide, which was redone about a year > ago, it shows a new part 6C3-9. My old canopy plans don't have this > part. It is a little gusset that attaches the front tube to the side > rails. The photo guide shows three rivets in the tube and three in the > steel side rail. Does anyone know how think the material is? I also > can't find the pitch for the screws that go through the canopy > Plexiglas into the tube. And a third question: I read that the hole in > the tube starts out as a number 40. The screws supplied are not self > tapping - they have no point. Mine are also number 6s where the new > plans call for number 8s. Did those that have built the canopy tap > threads into the tube after the #40 hole was drilled? > > If someone could find or send me the current version of 6C3 I would be > appreciative too. > > Thanks . > > Jeff Davidson > > CH601-HD/Jabiru > > Herndon, VA > > About to drill into that plastic bubble . > >* >* > ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 06:26:14 PM PST US From: N5SL Subject: Re: Zenith-List: XL Canopy on an HD --> Zenith-List message posted by: N5SL Jeff: Use a pitch of 100. 17 screws in the front hoop and 15 in the rear. There's no need to tap the hoops. The #6 screws (NAS548P6-10, not pointed) hold tight in the #40 holes. They don't however hold in the inner flashing angle (6-C-3-4)(.040" L-angle) so I used some J-nuts inside them. Worked like a charm. I just welded a tab onto the side rails for the front hoop and put three rivets into the hoop. When you are done, send me a picture like this one: http://www.cooknwithgas.com/8_12_06_Canopy.JPG Email me offline if you have more questions. Scott Laughlin Omaha, Nebraska 601XL finishing up cowl work http://www.cooknwithgas.com/8_14_06_On_The_Trailer.JPG --- Jeff wrote: = that attaches the front tube to the > side rails. The photo > guide shows three rivets in the tube and three in > the steel side rail. Does > anyone know how think the material is? I also can't > find the pitch for the > screws that go through the canopy Plexiglas into the > tube. And a third > question: I read that the hole in the tube starts > out as a number 40. The > screws supplied are not self tapping - they have no > point. Mine are also > number 6s where the new plans call for number 8s. > Did those that have built > the canopy tap threads into the tube after the #40 > hole was drilled? > > > > If someone could find or send me the current version > of 6C3 I would be > appreciative too. > > > > Thanks .. > > > > Jeff Davidson __________________________________________________