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     1. 04:47 AM - Re: FW: 4-tank fuel flow configuration question (Zodie Rocket)
     2. 05:04 AM - Re: FW: 4-tank fuel flow configuration question (Harrison-Hutcheson)
     3. 05:56 AM - Re: Priming techniques with Alumiprep, Alodine and Zinc Chromate (Kemter)
     4. 07:00 AM - Re: FW: 4-tank fuel flow configuration question (LRM)
     5. 07:52 AM - Request (Paul Seibert)
     6. 09:41 AM - Polishing (or NOT) (Grant Corriveau)
     7. 11:10 AM - Re: FW: 4-tank fuel flow configuration question (Les Goldner)
     8. 12:57 PM - HD/HDS wings (Timothy D. Perkins)
     9. 02:21 PM - 701 Stabilizer Front Mounting Bracket (Chuck Deiterich)
    10. 02:33 PM - Re: 4-tank fuel flow configuration question (RURUNY@aol.com)
    11. 02:40 PM - Re: 701 Stabilizer Front Mounting Bracket (RURUNY@aol.com)
    12. 03:50 PM - Re: Polishing (or NOT) (Bill Naumuk)
    13. 06:17 PM - CH701 Wing struts (john swanson)
    14. 06:27 PM - cowling (Bill Flick)
    15. 06:30 PM - Main gear assembly-500kb (Bill Naumuk)
    16. 06:42 PM - Main gear assembly-500kb (Bill Naumuk)
    17. 07:03 PM - Re: Main gear assembly-500kb (LHusky@aol.com)
    18. 08:06 PM - Re: cowling (Trevor Page)
    19. 08:57 PM - How to quiet an air compressor? (Todd Osborne)
    20. 09:25 PM - Re: How to quiet an air compressor? (Dave Ruddiman)
    21. 09:41 PM - Re: How to quiet an air compressor? (Paul Mulwitz)
    22. 11:04 PM - Re: How to quiet an air compressor? (John Marzulli)
 
 
 
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| Subject:  | FW: 4-tank fuel flow configuration question | 
      
      Les, if your Canadian then your fuel lines must be 3/8=92s in size. 
      
      cdngoose
      -----Original Message-----
      From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
      [mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Les Goldner
      Sent: Monday, August 28, 2006 2:51 AM
      Subject: Zenith-List: FW: 4-tank fuel flow configuration question
      
      This is my first email on the Zenith-list. I am building a 701 from a
      kit I bought from the original purchaser. This kit came with four
      10-gallon wing tanks but without a main tank. Since the only plane I
      ever built had a single tank, I could use some advice regarding the fuel
      flow configuration.
      
      My initial idea (please advise) is to connect the 4 tanks to the Rotax
      912S as shown in the attachment. I plan to use heavy 1/4 fuel line and
      don't plan to add a return flow line unless you feel it is needed. I
      also plan to put an auxiliary 4-PSI Facet electric fuel pump in-line
      between the engine and the right-left fuel selector switch. All the
      tanks will have fuel level gauges. The two wing tank selectors would be
      located on either side of the cockpit near the wing roots and the
      right-left selector would be on the instrument panel. 
      I know that with this config I have to keep tabs on three selector
      positions and the fuel levels in at least two tanks. Controlling flow in
      this manner seems logical since I will normally fly using only the
      inboard tanks and want to keep the outboard tanks dry (unless I am on
      long flights).  I suspect that its best to fly with fuel flowing from
      tanks on both side at the same time to keep fuel levels the same in both
      wings.. but I could use advice about this.
      
      Does this configuration work? Your comments would be helpful.
      
      Regards,
      Les Goldner
      Kit S/N 5298 
      Progress to date: One wing and tail completed. 
      
      --
      8/25/2006
      
      
      -- 
      8/25/2006
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: FW: 4-tank fuel flow configuration question | 
      
      Les,
      
      I purchased a complete kit with auxiliary wing tanks.  The plans I have 
      (7-6412, with section on Auxiliary Tanks) indicate the outside 
      tanks(auxiliary) are connected using a "T", the inside tanks (main) are 
      connected by a "T", and there is a switch to pick main, auxiliary, or 
      none.  I likewise have 4 fuel level indicators.  Do you have top-mounted 
      fuel level senders on your auxiliary tanks?  I would be interested in 
      hearing how you managed to get the sending unit to clear the top-skin.  
      Likewise I would be interested in seeing responses to the need for 
      electric fuel pump....  
      
      At times having just one switch seems to be a sufficient challenge while 
      flying (1971 Piper Cherokee 140) with just left and right tanks.  Having 
      the added complexity of 3 switches - all needing to be in proper 
      position - might be a bit much (IMHO).
      
      Hope it helps,
      Sam Hutcheson
      Kit S/N 7-6412
      Rudder, Elevator, Stabilizer, Wings, Flaperons, Slats, working on Rear 
      Fuselage.
        ----- Original Message ----- 
        From: Les Goldner 
        To: zenith-list@matronics.com 
        Sent: Monday, August 28, 2006 1:51 AM
        Subject: Zenith-List: FW: 4-tank fuel flow configuration question
      
      
        This is my first email on the Zenith-list. I am building a 701 from a 
      kit I bought from the original purchaser. This kit came with four 
      10-gallon wing tanks but without a main tank. Since the only plane I 
      ever built had a single tank, I could use some advice regarding the fuel 
      flow configuration.
      
        My initial idea (please advise) is to connect the 4 tanks to the Rotax 
      912S as shown in the attachment. I plan to use heavy 1/4 fuel line and 
      don't plan to add a return flow line unless you feel it is needed. I 
      also plan to put an auxiliary 4-PSI Facet electric fuel pump in-line 
      between the engine and the right-left fuel selector switch. All the 
      tanks will have fuel level gauges. The two wing tank selectors would be 
      located on either side of the cockpit near the wing roots and the 
      right-left selector would be on the instrument panel. 
        I know that with this config I have to keep tabs on three selector 
      positions and the fuel levels in at least two tanks. Controlling flow in 
      this manner seems logical since I will normally fly using only the 
      inboard tanks and want to keep the outboard tanks dry (unless I am on 
      long flights).  I suspect that its best to fly with fuel flowing from 
      tanks on both side at the same time to keep fuel levels the same in both 
      wings.. but I could use advice about this.
      
        Does this configuration work? Your comments would be helpful.
      
        Regards,
        Les Goldner
        Kit S/N 5298 
        Progress to date: One wing and tail completed. 
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Priming techniques with Alumiprep, Alodine and Zinc Chromate | 
      
      --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Kemter" <kemter@msn.com>
      
      Larry,
        I was at the exact point you are a few days ago with my 701's rudder.  I opted
      to only wipe down the pieces with thinner and brush on PTI's zinc chromate with
      a disposable foam brush.  Once the zinc chromate was dry (a light coat dries
      really fast), I rivited the skeleton together.  I tried scraping off some of
      the zinc chromate last night (about 36 hours after I first applied it) with
      my fingernail and it wouldn't come off and was as hard as woodpecker lips.
      
      Jim
      
      --------
      Jim Kemter
      Cibolo, TX
      701 / undecided engine
      working on tail feathers
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=57937#57937
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: FW: 4-tank fuel flow configuration question | 
      
      Why don't you look at how I did mine?  
      http://www.skyhawg.com/fuelsystem.html.  It is straight forward and 
      simple.  I don't like a fuel selector switch.  There has been lots and 
      lots of accidents because of selector switches where the pilot thought 
      he/she was switching tanks when in fact it was accidentally moved to the 
      off position.  I don't think the switch itself should have an off 
      position.  Turning off the fuel should be a separate deliberate 
      function.  If one insist on a selector switch with an off position, then 
      make sure it is visible.  My setup may not be totally idiot proof, but 
      close.
      
      On another note, wondering why I haven't flown yet?  Well first I passed 
      my airworthiness inspection with flying colors a couple weeks ago.  Not 
      a single discrepancy.  Then I started to taxiing around on my field.  
      One of the plastic fuel tanks started to leak, then another.  I am now 
      building four new fiberglass tanks, will be done today.  The black cloud 
      continued.  Last week we started to program the EFIS (Dynon D10).  It 
      didn't function right, so it should be at the factory today for repairs. 
       I am down for at least another two weeks.  Other than that the test 
      pilot was really impressed with the ground handling.  The acceleration 
      is great, front wheel was off the ground in 20' or less.  I wouldn't let 
      him take it up because I don't have insurance, and now it appears I 
      can't get any.  So when I get everything fixed, it's up up and away 
      insurance or not.  As soon as it flies, I will post the numbers on my 
      site. 
      
      Larry, N1345L, www.skyhawg.com
        ----- Original Message ----- 
        From: Les Goldner 
        To: zenith-list@matronics.com 
        Sent: Monday, August 28, 2006 1:51 AM
        Subject: Zenith-List: FW: 4-tank fuel flow configuration question
      
      
        This is my first email on the Zenith-list. I am building a 701 from a 
      kit I bought from the original purchaser. This kit came with four 
      10-gallon wing tanks but without a main tank. Since the only plane I 
      ever built had a single tank, I could use some advice regarding the fuel 
      flow configuration.
      
        My initial idea (please advise) is to connect the 4 tanks to the Rotax 
      912S as shown in the attachment. I plan to use heavy 1/4 fuel line and 
      don't plan to add a return flow line unless you feel it is needed. I 
      also plan to put an auxiliary 4-PSI Facet electric fuel pump in-line 
      between the engine and the right-left fuel selector switch. All the 
      tanks will have fuel level gauges. The two wing tank selectors would be 
      located on either side of the cockpit near the wing roots and the 
      right-left selector would be on the instrument panel. 
        I know that with this config I have to keep tabs on three selector 
      positions and the fuel levels in at least two tanks. Controlling flow in 
      this manner seems logical since I will normally fly using only the 
      inboard tanks and want to keep the outboard tanks dry (unless I am on 
      long flights).  I suspect that its best to fly with fuel flowing from 
      tanks on both side at the same time to keep fuel levels the same in both 
      wings.. but I could use advice about this.
      
        Does this configuration work? Your comments would be helpful.
      
        Regards,
        Les Goldner
        Kit S/N 5298 
        Progress to date: One wing and tail completed. 
      
      
      -------------------------------------------------------------------------
      -----
      
      
      8/23/2006
      
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| Subject:  | Polishing (or NOT) | 
      
      I have left my 601HDS auminum surfaces unfinished for several years  
      now.  For the first few years it was out in an open tie-down spot all  
      summer, rain or shine, with just a canopy cover.  Then it was  
      indoors, wings off, for the winter being 'fine-tuned'...  During this  
      time the aluminium dulled a little, but still looked not too bad -  
      especially from a distance ;-).
      
      Last winter I put the airplane into an open hangar.  Due to the dust  
      from the hangar floor, combining with the greater humidity and  
      condensation, combining with some amounts of snow that would blow in  
      and 'dust' the airplane, the surface of the aluminum deteriorated  
      more in those few months than all the years before.  Now it's very  
      dull and 'rough'.  This is apparently not a concern in terms of  
      corrosion as that's what 6061T6 is supposed to do, (i.e. produce a  
      surface layer to block further contact with air and moisture), but  
      it's not pretty by any means.  And the amount of polishing that would  
      be required now to clean up this deeper level of surface dulling/ 
      pitting, doesn't make that seem like a good option any more.
      
      fwiw
      Grant Corriveau
      GHTF 601hds
      (you can see the most recent photo on the blogsite link below.  still  
      doesn't look too bad from a distance! but don't get too close)
      
      On 27-Aug-06, at 11:58 PM, Zenith-List Digest Server wrote:
      
      > Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Polishing (or NOT)
      >
      > I did not paint my 601 for the first three years.  Just wash and dry.
      > Small pits started to show all over, so had to paint.
      > Canadian weather.
      > Dave Austin  601HDS - 912, Spitfire Mk VIII
      
      -------------------------------
      grant.corriveau@telus.net
      ---------------------------------------
      The Wings Stayed On!
      http://aluwings.blogspirit.com
      ---------------------------------------
      
      
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| Subject:  | FW: 4-tank fuel flow configuration question | 
      
      Sam,
      
      I will try to answer your question about the top-mounted fuel level sensors.
      
      I purchased some 5/16"x5/8" aluminum "stringer" excursions from Spruce (P/N
      03-48900) and sat them over the tank perpendicular to the ribs (attached
      with "L"s just behind the the fuel sender top plate. This prevents the tank
      from getting closer than 5/8" to top skin. In addition, I applied liquid
      electrical tape (Spruce # 09-42565) on top of the cut-down electrical
      contact on the sender. No chance of the unit shorting out this way!
      
      I also cut an access hole on top of the wing to get to the sender should it
      need repair, but this is a different story.
      Les
      Kit 7-5298
        -----Original Message-----
        From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
      [mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of
      Harrison-Hutcheson
        Sent: Monday, August 28, 2006 5:03 AM
        To: zenith-list@matronics.com
        Subject: Re: Zenith-List: FW: 4-tank fuel flow configuration question
      
      
        Les,
      
        I purchased a complete kit with auxiliary wing tanks.  The plans I have
      (7-6412, with section on Auxiliary Tanks) indicate the outside
      tanks(auxiliary) are connected using a "T", the inside tanks (main) are
      connected by a "T", and there is a switch to pick main, auxiliary, or none.
      I likewise have 4 fuel level indicators.  Do you have top-mounted fuel level
      senders on your auxiliary tanks?  I would be interested in hearing how you
      managed to get the sending unit to clear the top-skin.  Likewise I would be
      interested in seeing responses to the need for electric fuel pump....
      
        At times having just one switch seems to be a sufficient challenge while
      flying (1971 Piper Cherokee 140) with just left and right tanks.  Having the
      added complexity of 3 switches - all needing to be in proper position -
      might be a bit much (IMHO).
      
        Hope it helps,
        Sam Hutcheson
        Kit S/N 7-6412
        Rudder, Elevator, Stabilizer, Wings, Flaperons, Slats, working on Rear
      Fuselage.
          ----- Original Message -----
          From: Les Goldner
          To: zenith-list@matronics.com
          Sent: Monday, August 28, 2006 1:51 AM
          Subject: Zenith-List: FW: 4-tank fuel flow configuration question
      
      
          This is my first email on the Zenith-list. I am building a 701 from a
      kit I bought from the original purchaser. This kit came with four 10-gallon
      wing tanks but without a main tank. Since the only plane I ever built had a
      single tank, I could use some advice regarding the fuel flow configuration.
      
          My initial idea (please advise) is to connect the 4 tanks to the Rotax
      912S as shown in the attachment. I plan to use heavy 1/4 fuel line and don't
      plan to add a return flow line unless you feel it is needed. I also plan to
      put an auxiliary 4-PSI Facet electric fuel pump in-line between the engine
      and the right-left fuel selector switch. All the tanks will have fuel level
      gauges. The two wing tank selectors would be located on either side of the
      cockpit near the wing roots and the right-left selector would be on the
      instrument panel.
          I know that with this config I have to keep tabs on three selector
      positions and the fuel levels in at least two tanks. Controlling flow in
      this manner seems logical since I will normally fly using only the inboard
      tanks and want to keep the outboard tanks dry (unless I am on long flights).
      I suspect that its best to fly with fuel flowing from tanks on both side at
      the same time to keep fuel levels the same in both wings.. but I could use
      advice about this.
      
          Does this configuration work? Your comments would be helpful.
      
          Regards,
          Les Goldner
          Kit S/N 5298
          Progress to date: One wing and tail completed.
      
      
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      --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Timothy D. Perkins" <Timothy.Perkins@uvm.edu>
      
      Anyone have, or know where I might get a set of completed 601 HD or HDS
      wings? Anyone switch from HD to HDS wings and still have the originals
      hanging around? I need to replace or rebuild the left wing on my plane (601
      HD) after a gear failure incident in June, but figured I'd see if someone
      has a set they want to sell.
      
      Before anyone suggests it...I already know about the HDS wings listed on
      Barnstormers.
      
      Email me off-list at Timothy.Perkins @ uvm.edu  (take out the spaces)
      
      Thanks,
      
      Tim Perkins, VT
      
      Do not archive
      
      
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| Subject:  | 701 Stabilizer Front Mounting Bracket | 
      
      --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Chuck Deiterich" <cffd@pgrb.com>
      
      The July/Aug 2006 issue of the Zenair News has a good atricle by Larry
      Zetterlind.
      
      It describes cracks in 7H2-6 (Stabilizer Front Mounting Bracket) and his
      repair process.  He says that on his 701 the brackets were under a stress
      due to a poor fit to the fuselage brackets.  (See Zenair Newsletter Sept/Oct
      2005 for a good picture of this failure.)
      
      Originally, this bracket was .040" aluminum but Zenith now uses .063".
      
      I remember reading about this problem on this forum and I got the impression
      that one cause of the cracking was due to the tail shaking during engine
      start, particularly the Rotax 912.
      
      Am I remembering correctly?
      
      Chuck D.
      N701TX
      
      
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| Subject:  | re: 4-tank fuel flow configuration question | 
      
      Here is a link to some pics of the 701 2 tank sender access. Simple  cork 
      sheet cut into rings(3 each) used to keep the skin or access cover off  the top
      
      of the tank. Used contact cement to glue them together and to tank. One  was 
      glued to the doubler with nutplates. If skin is ever de-riveted there is no  
      glue between the tank and doubler cork. The sender top can never reach the  
      access cover using these.
      
      _http://share.shutterfly.com/action/welcome?sid=8CZsWbRuxZMNm¬ag=1_ 
      (http://share.shutterfly.com/action/welcome?sid=8CZsWbRuxZMNm¬ag=1) 
      
      
      I have 4 lines comming down from the 4 tanks to behind the pilot seat. 2  
      gascolaters(Zenith box type) are mounted on a doubler plate on either side  of
      
      the flap control arm. The one mounted on the left is for the inboard left and 
      
      right tanks, the one on the right is for the outboard left and right tanks.  
      There is drain to check for water at each of these. It is 1/4 fuel hose from  
      each tank. Just before the gascolater is a small clear plastic brass filter  
      from wicks for each tank. The output from the gascolaters (now 2 lines) are 5/16
      
      fuel hose to a selector on the left side floor in front of the seat.  Labeled 
         off- inboard- outboard. 5/16 line exits this selector  and continues up 
      the left side to a flow sensor behind the rudders, exits the  right side of 
      firewall to an ACS gascolater. 5/16 fuel line covered in  heatshield out of the
      
      gascolater to the
      912 fuel pump input which is a 5/16 fitting. Output of fuel pump is back to  
      1/4 inch line, this goes to a brass hose T  and then on to each carb. This  is
      
      a stock setup except for the 5/16 line from the gascolaters on and per advice 
       of Jim Greenough in Portland Oregon, the use 
      of AN842 brass right angle fittings with 1/8 NPT from Spruce to fit the  
      gascolaters behind the seat for the 1/4 inch line from the tanks. It wouldn't 
      
      work with the the straight hose nipples provided by zenith, you could not fit 
      
      both gascolaters behind the seat.
      
      Hope this helps
      
      Brian
      
      
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| Subject:  | re: 701 Stabilizer Front Mounting Bracket | 
      
      You are remembering correctly, but it was the 912s 100 hp engine which has  
      high compression that was causing this.I think the vibration issue was solved 
      by  starting and stopping on one ignition module instead of both. I will be  
      inspecting my brackets regularly.
      
      Brian
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Polishing (or NOT) | 
      
      And most of the WWII Spits I've seen were camo!
                                          do not archive
      Bill Naumuk
      42.5%HDS 
      Townville, Pa
        ----- Original Message ----- 
        From: Dave Austin 
        To: zenith-list@matronics.com 
        Sent: Sunday, August 27, 2006 10:50 PM
        Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Polishing (or NOT)
      
      
        I did not paint my 601 for the first three years.  Just wash and dry.  
      Small pits started to show all over, so had to paint.
        Canadian weather.
        Dave Austin  601HDS - 912, Spitfire Mk VIII
      
      
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| Subject:  | CH701 Wing struts | 
      
      --> Zenith-List message posted by: john swanson <jswanson@up.net>
      
      This will come under the catagory of dumb question, but thats better than a 
      mistake.
      
      Fitting the Wings. Do i cut the wing struts shorter, 7V10-2sp and 1sp to 
      get the proper dihedral?
      
      I'm asking to make sure that there isnt a mistake in installing the landing 
      gear
      I have the newer? two piece struts
      
      thanks in advance.
      do not archive
      John CH 701
      Alger co MI
      
      
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      hi guys.  i need a cowl for my 601 hds useing a subaru e81 engine and 
      also a good rabbit rad for the same.  thanks.  ralph
      
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| Subject:  | Main gear assembly-500kb | 
      
      
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| Subject:  | Main gear assembly-500kb | 
      
      
      HD/HDS Builder-
          After repeated requests to post this, here it is. My "Properties" 
      says this file is 500kb, which is way below the 2m max set by Matt.
      Bill Naumuk
      42.5% HDS
      Townville, Pa.
            After 8 hours learning how to do this, I figured I could do 
      everyone a major favor by helping them avoid my mistakes. 5.5 hrs 
      getting the procedure down and completing the first gear box; 2.5 hrs 
      for the second. The biggest time saver is to cable tie your bungees in 
      as tight as possible before going any farther. Pass this on to anyone 
      who asks for it with my best wishes.
      
            1. Drill the holes in the strut plate for the main gear prior to 
      assembly.
      
      
            2. The whole idea is to keep the bungees away from the gear box 
      perimeter. Cable tie the bungees as tight 
                as possible around the strut and 3/4" cross tube, and trim the 
      tie ends as close as possible. NOTE: 
                Remember to cut and remove the cable ties after the gear box 
      is installed.
      
      
           
         3. Align the assembly to the slide rails, then center the holes using 
      a center punch. Lightly drive the bolts in 
                from the outside. Eventually, the bolts will be removed using 
      a pair of pliers and inserted from inside the 
                gear boxes. The picture above shows both the alignment and 
      final position of the bolts.
      
      
            4. Each bolt pattern is going to differ slightly depending on the 
      builder. I kept the bolts from turning using one 
                of 3 methods:
                A. I took a 6"x1/4" extension, clamped it in my big vise, 
      heated the bend area with a propane torch, 
                    slipped a piece of pipe over the long end and reefed it 
      90=B0. Use duct tape to secure the 3/8" 
                    socket and the rest of the assembly together. (Far right 
      in the picture).
                B. I took a flat (No offset for the box end) combination 
      wrench and duct taped it to a long screwdriver.
                    (3rd from right).
                C. I jammed a long screwdriver between the bolt head and gear 
      box. 
      
      
           5. Push the bungee out of the way of the hole area to give you some 
      room to work. I used a 1' bungee 
               to keep the screwdriver in place. Figure on having to touch up 
      your corrosion protection when you're
               done. Note the sloppy rivet line in the gear slide from work 
      done in '03. You get more accurate with
               practice. 
      
      
            6. I used a "Claw" parts nabber I picked up at HF for $.99 on sale 
      to insert the bolts. Pull the bolts out 
                from the outside of the box using pliers, then re-insert them 
      from the inside. (2nd from left in Tools
                picture). Start from the bottom of the box and work your way 
      up, one at a time. Working space is
                critical. Don't forget there are two different lengths of AN-3 
      bolts used, and make sure the different
                sizes didn't migrate from their intended homes in the hardware 
      box! (Ouch- cost me 1/2 hr!!)
      
      
            7. Using 2 long 3/8" extensions snapped together, put pressure 
      against the bolt to allow you to start 
                the washer and nut (Far left in Tools picture).
      
      
            8. Finally, keep the bolt from turning using one of the methods 
      described in (4) above.
      
            There's definitely a learning curve. It took me 4 hours to get my 
      first 11 bolts in, and 20 minutes for the
        last 3 for the port side.
      
            Good building!
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Main gear assembly-500kb | 
      
      That makes me feel better about building an XL. LOL 
      
      Larry Husky  
      Lakeview, OR 
      601XL / Corvair
      Building Fuse
      
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      Ralph, I have a Zenith cowl for an HD/HDS that will fit a Subaru and  
      a rad. Contact me off list for details.
      
      do not archive
      
      Trevor Page
      UPAC Webmaster
      www.upac.ca
      
      On Aug 28, 2006, at 9:26 PM, Bill Flick wrote:
      
      > hi guys.  i need a cowl for my 601 hds useing a subaru e81 engine  
      > and also a good rabbit rad for the same.  thanks.  ralph
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| Subject:  | How to quiet an air compressor? | 
      
      --> Zenith-List message posted by: Todd Osborne <todd@toddtown.com>
      
      I live in a duplex and my workshop is in the basement. My air compressor 
      is very loud and I need to find a way to silence it, or at least quiet 
      it down. Does anyone have any suggestions for how to do this? I have 
      thought about building an acoustic enclosure, but don't know how to do 
      this without harming the cooling and still letting air get in.
      
      -- 
      Todd Osborne
      Internet E-Mail: todd@toddtown.com
      Web Site: www.toddtown.com
      MSN (Windows) Messenger: todd@toddtown.com
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      Skype: toddmosborne
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: How to quiet an air compressor? | 
      
      --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Dave Ruddiman" <pacificpainting@comcast.net>
      
      I'm not an expert on the subject, but I'm sure someone is. You probably have 
      one of the diaphragm type of compressors They 'rethe noisiest. That's the 
      same I have. I put mine outside in a tool shed behind the shop. Now the 
      neighbors have to listen to it. If I were in your situation I would build a 
      box around it and line it with styrofoam board. You might be able to cool it 
      by cutting some louvers in the bottom and some more in the top. Maybe get a 
      small squirrel cage fan or a bathroom fan with some ducting and suck the air 
      from the bottom out the top. The holes might let some noise out but I'm sure 
      it would cut down on the noise considerably. The other thing would be to get 
      a compressor that is belt driven. They still make noise, but not as much as 
      the other type.
      That's my idea. Let's see who can add to it. Good luck on it.
      
      
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: "Todd Osborne" <todd@toddtown.com>
      Sent: Monday, August 28, 2006 8:53 PM
      Subject: Zenith-List: How to quiet an air compressor?
      
      
      > --> Zenith-List message posted by: Todd Osborne <todd@toddtown.com>
      >
      > I live in a duplex and my workshop is in the basement. My air compressor 
      > is very loud and I need to find a way to silence it, or at least quiet it 
      > down. Does anyone have any suggestions for how to do this? I have thought 
      > about building an acoustic enclosure, but don't know how to do this 
      > without harming the cooling and still letting air get in.
      >
      > -- 
      > Todd Osborne
      > Internet E-Mail: todd@toddtown.com
      > Web Site: www.toddtown.com
      > MSN (Windows) Messenger: todd@toddtown.com
      > Yahoo! Messenger: ToddMOsborne
      > AOL Instant Messenger: toddosborn@aol.com
      > Skype: toddmosborne
      >
      >
      > 
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: How to quiet an air compressor? | 
      
      --> Zenith-List message posted by: Paul Mulwitz <p.mulwitz@worldnet.att.net>
      
      Hi Todd,
      
      One way that works is to replace your direct drive compressor with a 
      belt driven one.  The belt driven ones are more expensive but 
      naturally more quiet.  I got a really nice one made with "Eagle" 
      brand for around $250 from the "Tool Peddler" in Portland, OR - near 
      my home and shop.
      
      Sorry if this is not the answer you were hoping for.  Maybe somebody 
      else has that one.
      
      Good luck,
      
      Paul
      XL fuselage
      
      
      -> Zenith-List message posted by: Todd Osborne <todd@toddtown.com>
      
      >I live in a duplex and my workshop is in the basement. My air 
      >compressor is very loud and I need to find a way to silence it, or 
      >at least quiet it down. Does anyone have any suggestions for how to 
      >do this? I have thought about building an acoustic enclosure, but 
      >don't know how to do this without harming the cooling and still 
      >letting air get in.
      >
      >--
      >Todd Osborne
      >Internet E-Mail: todd@toddtown.com
      >Web Site: www.toddtown.com
      
      - 
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: How to quiet an air compressor? | 
      
      My guess is that you made the same mistake I did... buy an oiless
      compressor. They are just loud by nature.
      
      -John in Seattle
      
      On 8/28/06, Todd Osborne <todd@toddtown.com> wrote:
      >
      > --> Zenith-List message posted by: Todd Osborne <todd@toddtown.com>
      >
      > I live in a duplex and my workshop is in the basement. My air compressor
      > is very loud and I need to find a way to silence it, or at least quiet
      > it down. Does anyone have any suggestions for how to do this? I have
      > thought about building an acoustic enclosure, but don't know how to do
      > this without harming the cooling and still letting air get in.
      >
      > --
      > Todd Osborne
      > Internet E-Mail: todd@toddtown.com
      > Web Site: www.toddtown.com
      > MSN (Windows) Messenger: todd@toddtown.com
      > Yahoo! Messenger: ToddMOsborne
      > AOL Instant Messenger: toddosborn@aol.com
      > Skype: toddmosborne
      >
      >
      
      
      -- 
      John Marzulli
      http://701Builder.blogspot.com/
      
      "Flying a plane is no different than riding a bicycle... it's just a lot
      harder to put baseball cards in the spokes.
      
 
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