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1. 03:28 AM - Re: Window tinting (Jean-Paul Roy)
2. 03:59 AM - Re: Window tinting (Dave Johnson)
3. 04:13 AM - Re: Window tinting (Paul Mulwitz)
4. 04:26 AM - Re: Tri gear vs tailwheel test flight (ron dewees)
5. 07:10 AM - Re: Window tinting (Jean-Paul Roy)
6. 07:43 AM - Re: Window tinting (LRM)
7. 08:09 AM - Re: Window tinting (Larry Landucci)
8. 12:19 PM - Tail Kit Arrived and Wish Me Luck! (Todd Osborne)
9. 12:42 PM - Re: Window tinting (Chris In Madison)
10. 01:14 PM - Re: gust lock for 601 HD/HDS (Phil Maxson)
11. 03:24 PM - Re: HD wing nose skin (Bill Naumuk)
12. 06:40 PM - Re: Craftsman Drill Press sale (Ron Lendon)
13. 07:08 PM - EAA Chapter 70 Fly-in (Phil Maxson)
14. 07:10 PM - Re: HD wing nose skin (Ron Lendon)
15. 07:12 PM - Re: Re: Craftsman Drill Press sale (Ryan Vechinski)
16. 07:20 PM - Re: Re: Window tinting (LRM)
17. 07:57 PM - Re: Tail Kit Arrived and Wish Me Luck! (JAPhillipsGA@aol.com)
18. 10:53 PM - Re: Craftsman Drill Press sale (lwinger)
19. 10:58 PM - Re: EAA Chapter 70 Fly-in (TxDave)
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| Subject: | Re: Window tinting |
That makes a lot of sense. Thanks Bob.
Jean-Paul
----- Original Message -----
From: NYTerminat@aol.com
To: zenith-list@matronics.com
Sent: Monday, September 11, 2006 9:45 PM
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Window tinting
I don't know how old your kit is, but mine came with a tinted piece of
lexan for the top. Works pretty well. You can get different tinted
pieces of lexan from McMasters. I would not double it, it just adds more
weight.
Bob Spudis
N701ZX CH701/912S
In a message dated 9/11/2006 6:19:18 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
jean-paul.roy4@tlb.sympatico.ca writes:
How about doubling it with a thin tinted piece of LEXAN ?
Jean-Paul
----- Original Message -----
From: bob west
To: 701 list
Sent: Monday, September 11, 2006 11:29 AM
Subject: Zenith-List: Window tinting
Greetings,
Was installing my top windshield on my 701 and since I live in
central Fla.. Has any one installed window tinting on their top acrylic
windshield ??? Better do it now than later.
Bob
Plane painted, wired, rigged.
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| Subject: | Re: Window tinting |
Just a thought - how about 'solar film', it's used to cut down heat in
conservatories, sunrooms, etc. Very light and easily removed if you
don't need it.
I think it's made by 3Ms among others.
Dave Johnson
----- Original Message -----
From: bob west
To: 701 list
Sent: Monday, September 11, 2006 11:29 AM
Subject: Zenith-List: Window tinting
Greetings,
Was installing my top windshield on my 701 and since I live in
central Fla.. Has any one installed window tinting on their top acrylic
windshield ??? Better do it now than later.
Bob
Plane painted, wired, rigged.
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| Subject: | Re: Window tinting |
Jean-Paul and Bob,
It seems to me the other side of this coin is the question of
thickness of the required piece of plastic. The canopy thickness is
determined mostly from the aerodynamic forces rather than the need to
filter the sun light. You could add a very thin sheet of plastic to
act as a light filter rather than designing a new canopy with the
color filter included.
By adding a very thin and light filter sheet, you could get the
optical behavior you want with only a very small weight
addition. You could add and remove this additional filter without
replacing the main canopy.
Paul
Xl Fuselage
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>That makes a lot of sense. Thanks Bob.
>
>Jean-Paul
>----- Original Message -----
>From: <mailto:NYTerminat@aol.com>NYTerminat@aol.com
>To: <mailto:zenith-list@matronics.com>zenith-list@matronics.com
>Sent: Monday, September 11, 2006 9:45 PM
>Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Window tinting
>
>I don't know how old your kit is, but mine came with a tinted piece
>of lexan for the top. Works pretty well. You can get different
>tinted pieces of lexan from McMasters. I would not double it, it
>just adds more weight.
>
>Bob Spudis
>N701ZX CH701/912S
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Paul Mulwitz
32013 NE Dial Road
Camas, WA 98607
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| Subject: | Re: Tri gear vs tailwheel test flight |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: ron dewees <rdewees@mindspring.com>
Hi Paul,
Yes, It's solo-- (has to be for the first 40 hours) and WELL under
gross. Turns out that the plane's gross weight is more than twice it's
empty weight . 569 empty and 1200 at gross. That's pretty amazing for
a 75 hp plane!
Ron
Paul Mulwitz wrote:
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: Paul Mulwitz
> <p.mulwitz@worldnet.att.net>
>
> Hi Ron,
>
> Thanks for the great flight report. It sounds like a really nice plane.
>
> I do wonder, however, about your comment regarding stall speed and
> being qualified as LSA. The 51 mph sounds OK, but I would have
> thought the performance should be tested at full gross weight. I
> gathered from your report that you were probably flying solo and a
> couple hundred pounds under gross.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Paul
> XL fuselage
> do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: Window tinting |
Paul, we're not talking canopy here. We're talking about a 701 roof
windshield or skyshield. Different story.
Jean-Paul
----- Original Message -----
From: Paul Mulwitz
To: zenith-list@matronics.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2006 7:10 AM
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Window tinting
Jean-Paul and Bob,
It seems to me the other side of this coin is the question of
thickness of the required piece of plastic. The canopy thickness is
determined mostly from the aerodynamic forces rather than the need to
filter the sun light. You could add a very thin sheet of plastic to act
as a light filter rather than designing a new canopy with the color
filter included.
By adding a very thin and light filter sheet, you could get the
optical behavior you want with only a very small weight addition. You
could add and remove this additional filter without replacing the main
canopy.
Paul
Xl Fuselage
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That makes a lot of sense. Thanks Bob.
Jean-Paul
----- Original Message -----
From: NYTerminat@aol.com
To: zenith-list@matronics.com
Sent: Monday, September 11, 2006 9:45 PM
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Window tinting
I don't know how old your kit is, but mine came with a tinted
piece of lexan for the top. Works pretty well. You can get different
tinted pieces of lexan from McMasters. I would not double it, it just
adds more weight.
Bob Spudis
N701ZX CH701/912S
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Paul Mulwitz
32013 NE Dial Road
Camas, WA 98607
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| Subject: | Re: Window tinting |
I used tinted lexan, available at plastic distributors. The window tint
like you use on cars will not stay on Plexiglas or lexan.
Larry, N1345L, www.skyhawg.com
----- Original Message -----
From: Jean-Paul Roy
To: zenith-list@matronics.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2006 9:09 AM
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Window tinting
Paul, we're not talking canopy here. We're talking about a 701 roof
windshield or skyshield. Different story.
Jean-Paul
----- Original Message -----
From: Paul Mulwitz
To: zenith-list@matronics.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2006 7:10 AM
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Window tinting
Jean-Paul and Bob,
It seems to me the other side of this coin is the question of
thickness of the required piece of plastic. The canopy thickness is
determined mostly from the aerodynamic forces rather than the need to
filter the sun light. You could add a very thin sheet of plastic to act
as a light filter rather than designing a new canopy with the color
filter included.
By adding a very thin and light filter sheet, you could get the
optical behavior you want with only a very small weight addition. You
could add and remove this additional filter without replacing the main
canopy.
Paul
Xl Fuselage
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That makes a lot of sense. Thanks Bob.
Jean-Paul
----- Original Message -----
From: NYTerminat@aol.com
To: zenith-list@matronics.com
Sent: Monday, September 11, 2006 9:45 PM
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Window tinting
I don't know how old your kit is, but mine came with a tinted
piece of lexan for the top. Works pretty well. You can get different
tinted pieces of lexan from McMasters. I would not double it, it just
adds more weight.
Bob Spudis
N701ZX CH701/912S
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Paul Mulwitz
32013 NE Dial Road
Camas, WA 98607
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9/8/2006
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| Subject: | Re: Window tinting |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Larry Landucci <lllanducci@tds.net>
When I purchased my 801 kit in August, 2003 from Zenith, it came with a
tinted Lexan top window.
Larry Landucci -- N801LL
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| Subject: | Tail Kit Arrived and Wish Me Luck! |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Todd Osborne <todd@toddtown.com>
Hi everyone. Well other than going unbelievably deep in debt (for the
instrument rating), things are great at the Osborne household. My
tail kit for the XL arrived today and I have my instrument checkride
tomorrow. It only took me 17 years to get to this point! :-) I love
the new tail kit, much better than what I had several years ago. All
the holes are drilled with pilot holes but best of all, all the
notches and openings for the rudder and trim are cut! I am lovin' it!
Wish me luck!
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EMail: todd@toddtown.com
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Skype: toddmosborne
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| Subject: | Re: Window tinting |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Chris In Madison" <cowens@cnw.com>
Hi Larry,
I didn't notice that your top glass was tinted. Reckon I should be more observant
:-)
Best regards,
Chris
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Chris Owens
Waunakee, WI
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| Subject: | gust lock for 601 HD/HDS |
I just wrap the passenger seat-belt around the stick. It pulls it back and
to the right. No problems so far.Phil Maxson601XL/CorvairNorthwest New Je
rsey
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| Subject: | Re: HD wing nose skin |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Bill Naumuk" <naumuk@alltel.net>
Carlos-
Couldn't open your attachment. Did my HDS skins using Larry Mac's
set-up. Being lazy, I made a few mods to make it easier to build. I had a
hard drive crash but later estimated the build time at 25 hours. Cost- about
$25 with scrounging, $75 if you used new steel.
I'll let you borrow my rig (Less the wood for weight reasons), but it
will cost you more in shipping than building your own.
Let me know if you want pictures.
Bill Naumuk
HDS Fuselage
Townville, Pa
----- Original Message -----
From: "Carlos Sa" <carlosfsa@yahoo.com>
Sent: Monday, September 11, 2006 9:02 PM
Subject: Zenith-List: HD wing nose skin
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: Carlos Sa <carlosfsa@yahoo.com>
>
> Hello, all
>
>
> Has anybody tried the David Barth method
> (http://ch601.org/tools/nose%20skin.htm)for bending a
> nose skin for a CH601-HD?
> (The radius is much larger on the -HD than on the -XL, thence the
> question).
>
>
> Carlos
> CH601-HD, plans
> Montreal, Canada
>
>
> __________________________________________________________
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Craftsman Drill Press sale |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Ron Lendon" <rlendon@comcast.net>
Larry,
Thanks for the notice of the Sears sale. Picked one up today after looking at
the other places, Lowes, Home Depot, Harbor Freight. It should come in real handy
for making the wing spars.
--------
Ron Lendon, Clinton Township, MI
Corvair Zodiac XL, ScrapBuilder ;-)
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| Subject: | EAA Chapter 70 Fly-in |
This weekend my eight year old son and I flew over to Easton, PA to the EAA
Chapter 70 fly-in. He was particularly interested in the RC Model air sho
w. I flew in about a half-hour before the airport was closed for the event
, and hopped out. Before I could even get out of the plane, people where c
oming over to ask what kind of plane it was, and what kind of engine. I'm
continually amazed at how many people are interested in the engine.
I spend the bulk of the day answering questions about the Corvair conversio
n, and talking with a Corvair mechanic from Kutztown, PA. By the way, he s
ays he has lots of engines and parts, and he's willing to sell core engines
, if anyone is interested in the area. Contact me off-list and I'll give y
ou his number and address.
I have about 92 hours trouble free on my engine/airframe and am loving it.
It is actually getting faster, this weekend showing 130 mph indicated with
an additional 100 rpm. I suspect the engine is breaking in. In any case,
it is getting more fun every time I fly. I'm ready for some long distance
flying before the snow flies.Phil Maxson601XL/CorvairNorthwest New Jersey
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| Subject: | Re: HD wing nose skin |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Ron Lendon" <rlendon@comcast.net>
Carlos,
I have used that method for Rudder, Stabilizer, Flaps and Aileron skins. The flaps
and ailerons were actually a modified version to close them up. The Icon
shows me using the "Gravity Feed Stomp Press" on the Flap Skins.
The most important thing is the stop, and of course carpet if using the concrete
floor. I do plan on trying it when I get to that point.
Finishing up rear wing ribs then it's on to the spars.
--------
Ron Lendon, Clinton Township, MI
Corvair Zodiac XL, ScrapBuilder ;-)
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| Subject: | Re: Craftsman Drill Press sale |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Ryan Vechinski" <brothapig@hotmail.com>
I picked one up myself for the same reason. So far it's doing a great job,
although I'm still trying to determine if the laser sight is saving time or
not. Thanks for the notice!
----Original Message Follows----
From: "Ron Lendon" <rlendon@comcast.net>
Subject: Zenith-List: Re: Craftsman Drill Press sale
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Ron Lendon" <rlendon@comcast.net>
Larry,
Thanks for the notice of the Sears sale. Picked one up today after looking
at the other places, Lowes, Home Depot, Harbor Freight. It should come in
real handy for making the wing spars.
--------
Ron Lendon, Clinton Township, MI
Corvair Zodiac XL, ScrapBuilder ;-)
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| Subject: | Re: Window tinting |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "LRM" <lrm@skyhawg.com>
Yep, it's a pretty dark smoked grey. Notice my little side windows, the top
is out of the same piece. I bought a 4X8 piece from the distributor in
Little Rock. If I remember right is was about $90, plus it's 1/8". My
windshield and doors are also tinted. I got them from Zenith.
Larry, N1345L, www.skyhawg.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Chris In Madison" <cowens@cnw.com>
Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2006 2:42 PM
Subject: Zenith-List: Re: Window tinting
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Chris In Madison" <cowens@cnw.com>
>
> Hi Larry,
>
> I didn't notice that your top glass was tinted. Reckon I should be more
> observant :-)
>
> Best regards,
> Chris
>
> --------
> Chris Owens
> Waunakee, WI
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=61239#61239
>
>
> --
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Tail Kit Arrived and Wish Me Luck! |
Todd, with all that pre accomplished before you even begin you should be
flying before New Years', Best of Luck and keep us informed. Bill of Georgia
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| Subject: | Re: Craftsman Drill Press sale |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "lwinger" <larrywinger@gmail.com>
Glad the info helped. Thanks go to Dave Clay for putting me onto this model.
I just found the sale. After a few tries at adjusting the lasers, I'm finding
they really save me time and give me greater confidence when drilling those critical
parts.
--------
Larry Winger
Tustin, CA
601XL #6493 from scratch
Rudder completed -- drilling stab spars
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| Subject: | Re: EAA Chapter 70 Fly-in |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "TxDave" <dclaytx2@hotmail.com>
Phil, the attention your XL attracts is well deserved. It's a great looking airplane.
Dave Clay
Temple, TX
CH601XL Scratch builder
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