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1. 05:32 AM - Re: 801 Builders (I know you're out there) (Jay Herron)
2. 06:12 AM - Re: Re: 801 Builders (I know you're out there) (Dave Ruddiman)
3. 06:15 AM - Re: Jabiru/Zenith 601 Installation Workshop at Quality Sportplan... (LHusky@aol.com)
4. 07:00 AM - Re: Jabiru/Zenith 601 Installation Workshop at Quality Sportplan (lwinger)
5. 12:22 PM - 601 Canopy Covers (JAPhillipsGA@aol.com)
6. 01:43 PM - Re: 601 Canopy Covers (ron dewees)
7. 02:33 PM - Re: 601 Canopy Covers (LarryMcFarland)
8. 03:35 PM - Re: 601 Canopy Covers (JAPhillipsGA@aol.com)
9. 03:50 PM - Re: 601 Canopy Covers (JAPhillipsGA@aol.com)
10. 03:50 PM - Re: Re: 801 Builders (I know you're out there) (Zodie Rocket)
11. 04:24 PM - Re: 601 Canopy Covers (Al Young)
12. 04:37 PM - Re: 601 Canopy Covers (Jack Russell)
13. 05:07 PM - Re: 801 Builders (I know you're out there) (Jay Herron)
14. 05:38 PM - Lowrance 2000c (Robert L. Stone)
15. 05:40 PM - Baggage hinge alternative (Michael Valentine)
16. 08:04 PM - Re: 601 Canopy Covers (john H)
17. 08:23 PM - Re: Lowrance 2000c (Rick R)
18. 08:44 PM - Re: Lowrance 2000c (Edward Moody II)
19. 09:13 PM - Re: Lowrance 2000c (Graham Kirby)
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| Subject: | Re: 801 Builders (I know you're out there) |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Jay Herron" <jay@agstore.net>
Dave,
Jim Frisby has a O320 in his 801, but I don't think he has the constant speed prop.
Search the archives for Frisby in case he misses this post.
I have a O360 in my 801. It came with a governor and constant speed prop but I
sold the prop and bought a wood one from Props Inc. The wood prop is about 15
pounds in weight. The constant speed was around 50 pounds. Other builders
suggested that the 801 is slightly nose-heavy to begin with, so I went with wood.
I was also having a hard time finding room for the governor.
I still have about a month of work to do on my 801 before it is ready to fly.
Jay Herron
Salem, Ohio
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| Subject: | Re: 801 Builders (I know you're out there) |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Dave Ruddiman" <pacificpainting@comcast.net>
Jay,
Thanks for the reply. I'm about 99% sure that I'll go with the 0360 because
of weight, among other things. I am building my plane without to many
frills. I don't want to ad to the complexity of addtional systems and costs
on things I probably won't use anyway. The engine prop combination is more a
curiosity than anything else. I also found out the engine that I had
referred to has been pickled for about 9 years. I think I will probably use
an XP360. Haven't thought to much about a prop yet. What are you using?
Dave in Salem (Oregon)
801
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jay Herron" <jay@agstore.net>
Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2006 5:31 AM
Subject: Zenith-List: Re: 801 Builders (I know you're out there)
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Jay Herron" <jay@agstore.net>
>
> Dave,
> Jim Frisby has a O320 in his 801, but I don't think he has the constant
> speed prop. Search the archives for Frisby in case he misses this post.
>
> I have a O360 in my 801. It came with a governor and constant speed prop
> but I sold the prop and bought a wood one from Props Inc. The wood prop
> is about 15 pounds in weight. The constant speed was around 50 pounds.
> Other builders suggested that the 801 is slightly nose-heavy to begin
> with, so I went with wood. I was also having a hard time finding room for
> the governor.
>
> I still have about a month of work to do on my 801 before it is ready to
> fly.
> Jay Herron
> Salem, Ohio
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=61543#61543
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>
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| Subject: | Re: Jabiru/Zenith 601 Installation Workshop at Quality Sportplan... |
I am registered to go to the Corvair version. I am excited and can't wait.
I will be taking lots of pictures and any notes I can during the process for
those that are putting this engine on the front of your plane. I was down
there in may and I expect this to be a great time. Hope to see one or two
from the list there as well.
Larry Husky
Lakeview, OR
601XL / Corvair
Building Fuse
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| Subject: | Re: Jabiru/Zenith 601 Installation Workshop at Quality Sportplan |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "lwinger" <larrywinger@gmail.com>
I'll be there also. Looking forward to meeting and learning a bunch. Double the
notes and pictures for anyone with an interest!
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Larry Winger
Tustin, CA
601XL #6493 from scratch
Rudder completed -- drilling stab spars
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| Subject: | 601 Canopy Covers |
Dear Thread Friends, I am looking to buy a canopy cover for my XL. She stays
hangered most all the time and any of you all that have visited probably have
seen that fine Bart Simpson bed sheet I use to cover the canopy from dust and
bugs. I do plan on doing a bit of over night traveling this fall and need a
"real" canopy cover. I contacted Bruce's Custom Covers in California and the
nice fellow indicated they had sold 58 covers for 601s and his price was $379.00
plus shipping. Further, he said their cover weighs a little over 6 pounds. I
figure I don't really need a cover that will withstand meteor showers,
hurricanes, tornados. The plane would end up in Kansas with Dorothy and Toto anyway
with the cover the only thing holding it together !. Anybody know a lighter,
less indestructible and cheaper source for a canopy cover ? Hope to hear from
you and best regards, Bill of Georgia
N505WP
601XL-3300
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| Subject: | Re: 601 Canopy Covers |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: ron dewees <rdewees@mindspring.com>
Hi Bill,
I have used a guy in Florida who uses a fabric similar to Tyvec "paper
cloth" and he made two covers for the Mooney, which were a lot larger
than the 601. I will try to find his name but he lives near Lakeland
and is/was connected with aviation. The cost was less than $200 bucks.
He rates the lifespan as 2 to 3 years outside. Our's lasted longer. I
have shreds of my last one that may have his name on it. Somebody on
the list might know his name.
I also inherited a cover from a fellow who had the bad luck to be
flying his HDS when his motor ate a valve and put him down off field.
He was fine but the plane was totaled and he gave me his canopy cover.
You are more than welcome to borrow it to see if it fits and send it to
a shop that needs a pattern.
Ron
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JAPhillipsGA@aol.com wrote:
> Dear Thread Friends, I am looking to buy a canopy cover for my XL. She
> stays hangered most all the time and any of you all that have visited
> probably have seen that fine Bart Simpson bed sheet I use to cover the
> canopy from dust and bugs. I do plan on doing a bit of over night
> traveling this fall and need a "real" canopy cover. I contacted
> Bruce's Custom Covers in California and the nice fellow indicated they
> had sold 58 covers for 601s and his price was $379.00 plus shipping.
> Further, he said their cover weighs a little over 6 pounds. I figure I
> don't really need a cover that will withstand meteor showers,
> hurricanes, tornados. The plane would end up in Kansas with Dorothy
> and Toto anyway with the cover the only thing holding it together !.
> Anybody know a lighter, less indestructible and cheaper source for a
> canopy cover ? Hope to hear from you and best regards, Bill of Georgia
> N505WP
> 601XL-3300
> do not archive
>
>*
>*
>
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| Subject: | Re: 601 Canopy Covers |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: LarryMcFarland <larry@macsmachine.com>
Bill,
I think the real canopy cover at $379.00 was a bargain. It has a
material inside that will protect your acrylic from abrasion, the
outside is silver and will repel the ultraviolet rays better than most
anything else. The temps stay down because the cover does reflect light
well. He puts your n-number on each side of the cover so it won't get
legs when you visit another place and the straps that go under the belly
have real nice connectors, all of which goes into a rather small bag
that will fit just behind the pilots seat without upsetting your CG.
The design is a good fitting cover that I find very easy to use even
when the plane is to set a few weeks in the hangar with snow blowing
around and bird droppings spray wash off it without any damage. It
probably does weigh near 6-lbs bag and all but that's not much for what
you get nor much of a dent in your
payload. I've had mine for about 3 years now and it is preferred to the
fuzzy mattress cover that I used during construction of the plane. I'd
be an advocate for changing
your mind as the canopy cover is a really nice well thought out piece of
gear specifically fitting the 601.
http://www.macsmachine.com/images/canopy/full/canopycover.gif
http://www.macsmachine.com/images/canopy/full/canopycover1.gif
But it's your decision and I have to respect that :-) .
Larry McFarland - 601HDS at www.macsmachine.com
JAPhillipsGA@aol.com wrote:
> Dear Thread Friends, I am looking to buy a canopy cover for my XL. She
> stays hangered most all the time and any of you all that have visited
> probably have seen that fine Bart Simpson bed sheet I use to cover the
> canopy from dust and bugs. I do plan on doing a bit of over night
> traveling this fall and need a "real" canopy cover. I contacted
> Bruce's Custom Covers in California and the nice fellow indicated they
> had sold 58 covers for 601s and his price was $379.00 plus shipping.
> Further, he said their cover weighs a little over 6 pounds. I figure I
> don't really need a cover that will withstand meteor showers,
> hurricanes, tornados. The plane would end up in Kansas with Dorothy
> and Toto anyway with the cover the only thing holding it together !.
> Anybody know a lighter, less indestructible and cheaper source for a
> canopy cover ? Hope to hear from you and best regards, Bill of Georgia
> N505WP
> 601XL-3300
> do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: 601 Canopy Covers |
Ron, you are the luckiest guy I know. If I knew a fellow whose plane was bent
he would probably want me to loan him some money. You, get a free canopy
cover. Must be all those years of clean living. I'll keep looking, Best regards,
Bill.
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| Subject: | Re: 601 Canopy Covers |
Larry, thanks for the info. I'm sure they must make a fine product or they
wouldn't sell so many. I was just thinking that for my needs something lighter
might be sufficient. In 16 months of flying and near 90 hours, Babe has spent
only three nights out of her's or somebody's hanger. Of course, in the next
year I hope to change those numbers quite a bit. Best regards, Bill
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| Subject: | Re: 801 Builders (I know you're out there) |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Zodie Rocket" <zodierocket@hsfx.ca>
I'm in the same boat, the 801 were building is about a month away and
has an 0-360 with a metal prop from Zenith's FWF kit. The constant speed
application only increases cruise by about 3 knts and is not worth the
5G's or more in cost. But one thing I can truly say is that this is one
huge plane to build. It is only about 15% bigger then the 701 but wow it
is incredible how much more of the hanger it fills.
Cdngoose
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jay Herron
Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2006 8:32 AM
Subject: Zenith-List: Re: 801 Builders (I know you're out there)
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Jay Herron" <jay@agstore.net>
Dave,
Jim Frisby has a O320 in his 801, but I don't think he has the constant
speed prop. Search the archives for Frisby in case he misses this post.
I have a O360 in my 801. It came with a governor and constant speed
prop but I sold the prop and bought a wood one from Props Inc. The wood
prop is about 15 pounds in weight. The constant speed was around 50
pounds. Other builders suggested that the 801 is slightly nose-heavy to
begin with, so I went with wood. I was also having a hard time finding
room for the governor.
I still have about a month of work to do on my 801 before it is ready to
fly.
Jay Herron
Salem, Ohio
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9/13/2006
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| Subject: | Re: 601 Canopy Covers |
Bill- I live near Amish country. There is a Amish guy about 8 miles
up the road that makes custom covers for boats mostly. I'll drop by and
ask him what the cost would be for a light weight cover. I'll get back
to you. Repairs to N601AY are complete. Paint is next. Regards, Al
----- Original Message -----
From: JAPhillipsGA@aol.com
To: zenith-list@matronics.com
Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2006 2:19 PM
Subject: Zenith-List: 601 Canopy Covers
Dear Thread Friends, I am looking to buy a canopy cover for my XL. She
stays hangered most all the time and any of you all that have visited
probably have seen that fine Bart Simpson bed sheet I use to cover the
canopy from dust and bugs. I do plan on doing a bit of over night
traveling this fall and need a "real" canopy cover. I contacted Bruce's
Custom Covers in California and the nice fellow indicated they had sold
58 covers for 601s and his price was $379.00 plus shipping. Further, he
said their cover weighs a little over 6 pounds. I figure I don't really
need a cover that will withstand meteor showers, hurricanes, tornados.
The plane would end up in Kansas with Dorothy and Toto anyway with the
cover the only thing holding it together !. Anybody know a lighter,
less indestructible and cheaper source for a canopy cover ? Hope to hear
from you and best regards, Bill of Georgia
N505WP
601XL-3300
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| Subject: | Re: 601 Canopy Covers |
Bill: One of the builders wives at my local airport has made several covers for
experimentals. She made one for their XL and I asked her to make one for ours.
It is only made of a lightweight material and is not waterproof but only cost
$75 and she did an outstanding job. She said she would make more if you are
interested I will get her number for you. Jack in Los Osos Ca
JAPhillipsGA@aol.com wrote:
> Dear Thread Friends, I am looking to buy a canopy cover for my XL. She
> stays hangered most all the time and any of you all that have visited
> probably have seen that fine Bart Simpson bed sheet I use to cover the
> canopy from dust and bugs. I do plan on doing a bit of over night
> traveling this fall and need a "real" canopy cover. I contacted
> Bruce's Custom Covers in California and the nice fellow indicated they
> had sold 58 covers for 601s and his price was $379.00 plus shipping.
> Further, he said their cover weighs a little over 6 pounds. I figure I
> don't really need a cover that will withstand meteor showers,
> hurricanes, tornados. The plane would end up in Kansas with Dorothy
> and Toto anyway with the cover the only thing holding it together !.
> Anybody know a lighter, less indestructible and cheaper source for a
> canopy cover ? Hope to hear from you and best regards, Bill of Georgia
> N505WP
> 601XL-3300
> do not archive
Jack Russell -Clovis CA
601 XL Jabiru 3300
Progress update at:
http://www.geocities.com/clojan@sbcglobal.net/zodiacbarn.html
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| Subject: | Re: 801 Builders (I know you're out there) |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Jay Herron" <jay@agstore.net>
Dave,
The prop that I have mounted on my 0360 is a 72x46 made from hard maple with fiberglass
tips and leading edge protection. Cost was $995 from Props Inc.
Jay Herron
Salem, Ohio
CH801 95% complete
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Members,
I just got delivery of a new Lowrance 2000c yesterday and so far I
have only been able to figure out how to find my position on the ground.
I seem to remember someone on the net said he has one of these and
loves it. Right now I hate mine because I cant figure out how to
program it to go from one airport to another. What I would like and
very much appreciate is someone who owns one of these little monsters
provide me with step by step (being careful not to miss a step)
instruction on which buttons to push to go from Skylark Field, Killeen,
Tx to Enid Regional Airport, Enid, Oklahoma.
For those of you who don't know about this web site, you can get
the three digit code for all US Airports. Here is the URL
http://www.airnav.com/airports/
Bob Stone, Harker Heights, Tx
ZodiacXL
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| Subject: | Baggage hinge alternative |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Michael Valentine" <mgvalentine@gmail.com>
I was wondering if anyone else has tried this cabinet hinge idea
(found on CH601.org) that Roger Parnow used as an alternative to the
piano hinge on the baggage lockers. If you gave it a try, how did it
work? (I am not completely happy with the fit it looks like I will
get with my piano hinge - just debating alternatives.)
http://www.ch601.org/resources/wing%20Lockers/wing_lockers.htm
Thanks, Michael Valentine
Contoocook, NH
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| Subject: | Re: 601 Canopy Covers |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "john H" <professor71@hotmail.com>
Hey Jack
I would be interested in the canopy cover also. I have a 601HD. Do you have
any pics you could post.
Thanks
John
>From: Jack Russell <clojan@sbcglobal.net>
>To: zenith-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Re: Zenith-List: 601 Canopy Covers
>Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2006 16:35:46 -0700 (PDT)
>
>
> Bill: One of the builders wives at my local airport has made several
>covers for experimentals. She made one for their XL and I asked her to make
>one for ours. It is only made of a lightweight material and is not
>waterproof but only cost $75 and she did an outstanding job. She said she
>would make more if you are interested I will get her number for you. Jack
>in Los Osos Ca
>
>JAPhillipsGA@aol.com wrote:
>
> > Dear Thread Friends, I am looking to buy a canopy cover for my XL. She
> > stays hangered most all the time and any of you all that have visited
> > probably have seen that fine Bart Simpson bed sheet I use to cover the
> > canopy from dust and bugs. I do plan on doing a bit of over night
> > traveling this fall and need a "real" canopy cover. I contacted
> > Bruce's Custom Covers in California and the nice fellow indicated they
> > had sold 58 covers for 601s and his price was $379.00 plus shipping.
> > Further, he said their cover weighs a little over 6 pounds. I figure I
> > don't really need a cover that will withstand meteor showers,
> > hurricanes, tornados. The plane would end up in Kansas with Dorothy
> > and Toto anyway with the cover the only thing holding it together !.
> > Anybody know a lighter, less indestructible and cheaper source for a
> > canopy cover ? Hope to hear from you and best regards, Bill of Georgia
> > N505WP
> > 601XL-3300
> > do not archive
>
>
>Jack Russell -Clovis CA
>601 XL Jabiru 3300
> Progress update at:
>http://www.geocities.com/clojan@sbcglobal.net/zodiacbarn.html
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Lowrance 2000c |
Bob,
Piece of cake. I'm away from home now but get in the manual and go to "plan
a route". There you can name your path and enter those identifiers as your way
points.....when I get some Saturday you can call me if you like and we'll step
through it......
"Robert L. Stone" <rstone4@hot.rr.com> wrote:
Members,
I just got delivery of a new Lowrance 2000c yesterday and so far I have
only been able to figure out how to find my position on the ground. I seem to
remember someone on the net said he has one of these and loves it. Right now
I hate mine because I cant figure out how to program it to go from one airport
to another. What I would like and very much appreciate is someone who owns
one of these little monsters provide me with step by step (being careful not to
miss a step) instruction on which buttons to push to go from Skylark Field,
Killeen, Tx to Enid Regional Airport, Enid, Oklahoma.
For those of you who don't know about this web site, you can get the three
digit code for all US Airports. Here is the URL
http://www.airnav.com/airports/
Bob Stone, Harker Heights, Tx
ZodiacXL
Rick
Sharpsburg, GA. USA
http://www.n701rr.com
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| Subject: | Re: Lowrance 2000c |
Hi Bob,
The guy who loves his 2000C was (and is) me. It's not really all that
tough if you take a little time to read the manual. For instance, when
you are at your home strip and turn it on, it will "find itself" in
about 2 - 3 minutes. When the airplane icon quits flashing, it has found
its location (and, of course, yours as well unles you wandered away from
the plane).
To get a course to any destination, press the FIND button then use the
arrow buttons to enter the designator code for the destination airport
and select GO TO. Voila! You will return to the map screen of your
present location with a nice red line to follow to the destination. Read
the instructions.... you will find out how to display useful data on the
map screen, such as distance to your destination, bearing to it, ground
speed, ALT, ETE at your present speed and ground track, and even a nifty
CDI graphic. You can choose up to eight data windows to display at the
bottom of the map screen.
On the other hand, if you really don't want to spend time reading the
manual, you might want to return it...... there is s learning curve to
deal with.
Ed Moody II
----- Original Message -----
From: Robert L. Stone
To: zenith-list@matronics.com
Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2006 7:37 PM
Subject: Zenith-List: Lowrance 2000c
Members,
I just got delivery of a new Lowrance 2000c yesterday and so far
I have only been able to figure out how to find my position on the
ground. I seem to remember someone on the net said he has one of these
and loves it. Right now I hate mine because I cant figure out how to
program it to go from one airport to another.
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Bob,
You may already know this but Lowrance have an emulator for the 2000c
that
you can run on a PC. Its available at:
http://www.lowrance.com/Software/PCSoftware/Install/AirMap2000C/AirMap200
0C_
demo.asp
Looks like a handy way to explore the features.
Graham Kirby
601HD
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Robert L.
Stone
Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2006 5:37 PM
Subject: Zenith-List: Lowrance 2000c
Members,
I just got delivery of a new Lowrance 2000c yesterday and so far I
have
only been able to figure out how to find my position on the ground.
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