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1. 06:15 AM - Re: Cost of Reducer For Zinc Chromate (Jay Herron)
2. 06:48 AM - Re: Cost of Reducer For Zinc Chromate (David Mikesell)
3. 08:59 AM - Marcie's canopy covers email address (Jack Russell)
4. 09:58 AM - Re: 801 Builders (I know you're out there)801 Builders (I know y (Larry Landucci)
5. 09:58 AM - Canopy covers (Robert L. Stone)
6. 10:56 AM - Re: Cost of Reducer For Zinc Chromate (Edward Moody II)
7. 11:26 AM - Re: Cost of Reducer For Zinc Chromate (Chris In Madison)
8. 12:00 PM - Re: Snow (Edward Moody II)
9. 01:42 PM - Re: Canopy covers (fluff) (J2j3h4@aol.com)
10. 02:06 PM - 0-320 for sale (J2j3h4@aol.com)
11. 02:14 PM - speed range for flaps (Randy)
12. 02:18 PM - Re: Snow (Jari Kaija)
13. 02:22 PM - BFR in HDS ? (601corvair)
14. 02:30 PM - Re: Snow (Jerry Latimer)
15. 02:56 PM - Re: speed range for flaps (jetboy)
16. 03:20 PM - Re: Canopy covers (Phil Maxson)
17. 04:59 PM - Re: 801 Builders (I know you're out there)801 Builders (I know y (n801bh@netzero.com)
18. 05:01 PM - Re: Snow (n801bh@netzero.com)
19. 05:21 PM - Re: speed range for flaps (Tim Juhl)
20. 05:40 PM - Re: 801 Builders (I know you're out there)801 Builders (I know (Chris In Madison)
21. 05:40 PM - Re: 801 Builders (I know you're out there)801 Builders (I know y (Chris In Madison)
22. 06:11 PM - Re: speed range for flaps (Bryan Martin)
23. 07:15 PM - Re: Canopy covers (Robert L. Stone)
24. 07:28 PM - Re: Snow (Bill Naumuk)
25. 07:32 PM - Re: Snow (Bill Naumuk)
26. 07:46 PM - Re: Snow (Bill Naumuk)
27. 09:35 PM - 701 Upper Elevator Horn (Ryan Vechinski)
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| Subject: | Re: Cost of Reducer For Zinc Chromate |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Jay Herron" <jay@agstore.net>
Dave,
I purchased a case of Tempo zinc chromate aerosol cans from Skygeek a couple years
ago for my 801. They had the best price at the time and did not charge hazmat.
I see they now have a generic zinc chromate for less money than the Tempo.
Their website now mentions a hazmat charge on the Tempo but not on the generic.
The hazmat charge did not show up on the order total when I put in a pretend
order this morning: $9.90 for 2 cans plus $7.43 shipping = $17.33 You
might call them first to confirm that there is no hazmat charge.
They have yellow and green. Here is a link to the green:
http://www.skygeek.com/a7-6889a.html
Jay Herron
Salem, Ohio
801
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| Subject: | Re: Cost of Reducer For Zinc Chromate |
Cost of Reducer For Zinc ChromateYou can find it at some marine
stores/boating shops. Many carry zinc chromate primer.
David Mikesell
23597 N. Hwy 99
Acampo, CA 95220
209-609-8774
skyguynca@skyguynca.com
www.skyguynca.com
----- Original Message -----
From: Dave VanLanen
To: zenith-list@matronics.com
Sent: Friday, September 15, 2006 8:00 PM
Subject: Zenith-List: Cost of Reducer For Zinc Chromate
I was going to order a quart of reducer from ACS for the zinc chromate
primer I purchased. However I was surprised to learn that although the
price is $9.70, the total cost of shipping, with the hazmat surcharge,
is $41. That's a four-fold increase in cost just to get it here! Does
anyone know of a cheaper way to acquire this product? I live in
Madison, WI.
Thanks,
Dave Van Lanen
601XL - stabilizer
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| Subject: | Marcie's canopy covers email address |
FYI: The titan dealer in Fresno CA is handling all requests for Marcie's canopy
covers.
Contact Chuck Riley for info: riley.nancy@comcast.net
Jack Russell <clojan@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
I posted a couple of pics on my webpage. http://www.geocities.com/clojan@sbcglobal.net/zodiacbarn4.html
The contact info for Marcie will follow later.
Jack. Remember that my page is a cheapo and you can't all look at once.
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JAPhillipsGA@aol.com wrote:
Jack, that sounds like just what I'm looking for. I would really appreciate you
putting me in touch with this fine lady. My home phone is 478-994-9196, work
is 478-827-0236. Thanks and best regards, Bill
Jack Russell -Clovis CA
601 XL Jabiru 3300
Progress update at:
http://www.geocities.com/clojan@sbcglobal.net/zodiacbarn.html
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| Subject: | Re: 801 Builders (I know you're out there)801 Builders (I |
know y
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Larry Landucci <lllanducci@tds.net>
The empty weight (1310 lb) that I quoted for my 801 is one commonly
defined as the weight of the aircraft including unusable fuel (about
4-6 gal), and full oil (12 qts).
The empty weight of the Zenith factory 801 is reasonable considering
that they have only two fuel tanks, no soundproofing/thermal insulation
surrounding the entire interior of the cabin as I do, and a lot simpler
(and lighter) instrument panel.
The one-inch thick closed-cell foam insulation from Wicks or Spruce is
quite heavy. In fact, in the forward floor I have a two inch layer
underneath a 1/8 inch masonite sheet and carpet over that. I did that
because my rubber fuel lines are routed underneath the "false" floor
through rigid PVC tubing on their way to my Andair fuel selector on a
center panel (an additional extra weight).
I also installed additional aluminum angles (diagonally) on both the
top and bottom rear fuselage to minimize "oil canning" during flight
and glued random scrap pieces of the 1" foam to the sides of the rear
fuselage as well to accomplish the same thing. I have about 160 hours
on my 801 and so far have not yet heard any sounds due to flexing of
the aluminum skins ("oil canning").
So, with all this I think an extra 160 lbs doesn't seem too bad.
Larry Landucci -- N801LL
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Members,
There is no point or advantage in having a custom fitted cover made
for your aircraft. A cotton blanket and a silver 10' X 12' tarp with
grommets that you can tie 1/4" nylon rope will work just as well as an
expensive custom cover. Also if you have a problem as I did when I was
living in California with birds thinking your airplane is a toilet for
their use, do the following. Get a small piece rabbit skin with the
hair still on it and cut it out so it looks like four legs and a head.
Put two eyes on the head and glue a piece of Velcro on the bottom side
of it. Glue a piece of Velcro on the turtle deck of your aircraft and
you will not have any more birds sitting on your airplane and taking a
dump. The idea is not really new, farmers have been using scarecrows
for years to protect their crops.
The rabbit skin is the same principal and it works
Bob Stone, Harker Heights, Tx
ZodiacXL
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| Subject: | Re: Cost of Reducer For Zinc Chromate |
Cost of Reducer For Zinc ChromateI'm not an industrial paint tech wizard
(someone else on the list is one but I don't remember who he is) but I
would try buying Laquer Thinner by the gallon at the local paint store,
Home Depot, or Lowes etc. It will disolve almost anything other than
glass or titanium and flashed off for a quick drying time. It does not
etch aluminum for you so you should wash the part, use some sort of
etcher (Alumaprep) then brush or spray it on.
Hope that helps,
Ed Moody II
----- Original Message -----
From: Dave VanLanen
To: zenith-list@matronics.com
I was going to order a quart of reducer from ACS for the zinc chromate
primer I purchased. However I was surprised to learn that although the
price is $9.70, the total cost of shipping, with the hazmat surcharge,
is $41. That's a four-fold increase in cost just to get it here! Does
anyone know of a cheaper way to acquire this product? I live in
Madison, WI.
Thanks,
Dave Van Lanen
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| Subject: | Re: Cost of Reducer For Zinc Chromate |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Chris In Madison" <cowens@cnw.com>
Hi Dave,
To tail onto Paul's comment, there's an auto paint store on Watts Road across from
Woodman's on the west side. Maybe there's a chance they'd have what you're
after.
Best regards,
Chris (who knows nothing about paint)
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Chris Owens
Waunakee, WI
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http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=61962#61962
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Pussies! I have pussies on my team! I spent three years in the USAF at
Malmstrom AFB, Great Falls, Montana. Hell, I elk hunted the Gallatin
herd at 41degrees below zero, for crying out loud! This morning my
backyard felt like a sauna at 8AM but that's the breaks of living in the
soutwest LA jungle. At least we haven't had a hurricane come ashore this
year (yet).
If you get too frozen to hold out, you can come down to Louisiana and
I'll put you up in the camper till you thaw out, okay? But you gotta
debur and prime parts while you're here.
Ed
----- Original Message -----
From: Bill Naumuk
To: zenith-list@matronics.com
Sent: Friday, September 15, 2006 5:19 PM
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Snow
Larry-
Don't remind me!!! I had to stop work on the project to winterize.
We've had snow as early as the last week of September, but you beat
that.
I empathize, sympatize, whateverize. People in the South have no
idea what it's like to spend half the year preparing for winter. (Unless
you're snowbirds that moved) And don't forget our Canadian friends-
their South is our North!
Got your wood in yet?
do not archive
Bill Naumuk
HDS Fuselage
Townville, Pa
----- Original Message -----
From: LHusky@aol.com
To: zenith-list@matronics.com
Sent: Friday, September 15, 2006 12:31 PM
Subject: Zenith-List: Snow
Well, I went out to do a little work on my fuselage and it started
snowing. I can't believe it is snowing this early in the year. I
rushed to get my fuse parts back into my garage since I had taken them
out to do a little work on my wife's truck. I was using air
conditioning two days ago and now I have to find a heater. It is going
to get down to 29 tonight. OUCH!!!
Larry Husky
Lakeview, OR
601XL / Corvair
Building Fuse
Do Not Archive
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| Subject: | Re: Canopy covers (fluff) |
Gee, I bet a dead cat would work even better. Or even a live one if you
Velcro'd him in place.
(Sorry - I couldn't resist. I really do like cats - all animals for that
matter - but there is a funny book called "100 uses for a dead cat" and this
sounded like one more.)
Jim
Do not archive
In a message dated 9/16/2006 12:00:00 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
rstone4@hot.rr.com writes:
Members,
There is no point or advantage in having a custom fitted cover made for
your aircraft. A cotton blanket and a silver 10' X 12' tarp with grommets
that you can tie 1/4" nylon rope will work just as well as an expensive custom
cover. Also if you have a problem as I did when I was living in California
with birds thinking your airplane is a toilet for their use, do the
following. Get a small piece rabbit skin with the hair still on it and cut it
out so
it looks like four legs and a head. Put two eyes on the head and glue a
piece of Velcro on the bottom side of it. Glue a piece of Velcro on the turtle
deck of your aircraft and you will not have any more birds sitting on your
airplane and taking a dump. The idea is not really new, farmers have been
using scarecrows for years to protect their crops.
The rabbit skin is the same principal and it works
Bob Stone, Harker Heights, Tx
ZodiacXL
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Would the person that emailed me about the 0-320 that I have for sale please
write again or call me?
I erased your email by mistake.
Jim Hasper
615-483-0306
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| Subject: | speed range for flaps |
This question is for people that have built, or are building, 601xl's.
I was looking at Zenith's website for the speed range for operating the
flaps, but could not find it. Does anyone know what the speed range is
for the flaps?
Thanks for your help,
Randy Ferri
601xl Jab. 3300
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> Pussies! ....41degrees
Are you talking about fahrenheits? Pussie! :-)
At normal winter day, we have minus 35 degrees celsius easily. Do you
know, what we do then?
Personally, I heat my outdoor bathtub to 36 degrees celsius, going to
sauna, where is about
80-110 degrees celsius. It's very dreamfull to take GOOD sauna session
(about 30min to 1 hour)
and then go to outside to bath, where only stars and moon shines.
Pussies! :-)
----------------------------------
http://www.jarikaija.com
http://www.project-ch701.net
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Does anyone know where I can get a BFR in an HDS on the East Coast? I dont want
to solo the airplane, so I really never need to be PIC. So does anyone know
a CFI with a HDS?
I can be reached off list at:
phartig@mindspring.com
or
airvari601@yahoo.com
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Isn't -40 C equal to -40 F?
It's 94 F and bright sunshine here in Phoenix.
Jerry
_____
From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jari Kaija
Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2006 2:18 PM
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Snow
> Pussies! ....41degrees
Are you talking about fahrenheits? Pussie! :-)
At normal winter day, we have minus 35 degrees celsius easily.
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| Subject: | Re: speed range for flaps |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "jetboy" <sanson.r@xtra.co.nz>
Please add CH701 rev-4 flaps speed range to the question. When the 701 was changed
to 1100lbs revision the max flap setting was changed to 16 deg.
I have been unable to find a revised flight manual or documentation covering this
change
Ralph
CH701 / 2200a
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Ralph - CH701 / 2200a
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Please don't take offense with the following comments. It's hard to believ
e, but on occasion, people on this list take my comments the wrong way :-)
I admire the frugal nature of your suggestion.
I saw the post many months ago, about the blanket and tarp idea, and also a
"custom cover" using a table cloth with a soft interior surface. The reas
on I didn't go with this option is I thought it would look like a tarp and
a blanket! Or a tablecloth strapped to my plane! I didn't like the look o
f it. SO, I went with the a custom, color matched cover from Bruce's Custo
m Covers. He already had the template for the XL and it looks beautiful.
I liked it so much I went back for a prop/spinner cover.
I liked the idea about the rabbit skin.Phil Maxson601XL/CorvairNorthwest Ne
w Jersey
From: rstone4@hot.rr.comTo: zenith-list@matronics.comSubject: Zenith-List:
Canopy coversDate: Sat, 16 Sep 2006 11:57:13 -0500
Members,
There is no point or advantage in having a custom fitted cover made fo
r your aircraft. A cotton blanket and a silver 10' X 12' tarp with grommet
s that you can tie 1/4" nylon rope will work just as well as an expensive c
ustom cover.
<<SNIP>>
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| Subject: | Re: 801 Builders (I know you're out there)801 Builders (I |
know y
My 801 is alot heavier then, mainly because of all the extras I have. Th
e paint alone added 30+ lbs. I am guessing that Zenith weighed their 801
just as it rolled out of the plant and before anything was added to it.
Several other 801's that were built bare bones didn't achieve the adver
tised numbers either. I did chat with Larry at OSH and looked over his 8
01, he did a great job and his, like mine are not the "basic" model... O
n another note we lost another 801 last month. The pilot/builder is ok t
hank god and he will share his story when he feels more comfortable talk
ing about it. I will say he is concerned that the seat belt attach brac
ket failed too....
do not archive
Ben Haas
N801BH
www.haaspowerair.com
-- Larry Landucci <lllanducci@tds.net> wrote:
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Larry Landucci <lllanducci@tds.net>
The empty weight (1310 lb) that I quoted for my 801 is one commonly
defined as the weight of the aircraft including unusable fuel (about
4-6 gal), and full oil (12 qts).
The empty weight of the Zenith factory 801 is reasonable considering
that they have only two fuel tanks, no soundproofing/thermal insulation
surrounding the entire interior of the cabin as I do, and a lot simpler
(and lighter) instrument panel.
The one-inch thick closed-cell foam insulation from Wicks or Spruce is
quite heavy. In fact, in the forward floor I have a two inch layer
underneath a 1/8 inch masonite sheet and carpet over that. I did that
because my rubber fuel lines are routed underneath the "false" floor
through rigid PVC tubing on their way to my Andair fuel selector on a
center panel (an additional extra weight).
I also installed additional aluminum angles (diagonally) on both the
top and bottom rear fuselage to minimize "oil canning" during flight
and glued random scrap pieces of the 1" foam to the sides of the rear
fuselage as well to accomplish the same thing. I have about 160 hours
on my 801 and so far have not yet heard any sounds due to flexing of
the aluminum skins ("oil canning").
So, with all this I think an extra 160 lbs doesn't seem too bad.
Larry Landucci -- N801LL
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the advertised numbers either. I did chat with Larry at OSH and looked o
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It is snowing here in Jackson Hole Wy as I type this. I LOVE the snow an
d boy does my 801 love the cold thick air too. <G>. I am not sure I woul
d admit to hunting at - 41 though....
do not archive
Ben Haas
N801BH
www.haaspowerair.com
-- "Edward Moody II" <dredmoody@cox.net> wrote:
Pussies! I have pussies on my team! I spent three years in the USAF at M
almstrom AFB, Great Falls, Montana. Hell, I elk hunted the Gallatin herd
at 41degrees below zero, for crying out loud! This morning my backyard
felt like a sauna at 8AM but that's the breaks of living in the soutwest
LA jungle. At least we haven't had a hurricane come ashore this year (y
et). If you get too frozen to hold out, you can come down to Louisiana a
nd I'll put you up in the camper till you thaw out, okay? But you gotta
debur and prime parts while you're here. Ed----- Original Message -----
From: Bill Naumuk To: zenith-list@matronics.com Sent: Friday, September
15, 2006 5:19 PMSubject: Re: Zenith-List: Snow
Larry- Don't remind me!!! I had to stop work on the project to winter
ize. We've had snow as early as the last week of September, but you beat
that. I empathize, sympatize, whateverize. People in the South have
no idea what it's like to spend half the year preparing for winter. (Unl
ess you're snowbirds that moved) And don't forget our Canadian friends-
their South is our North! Got your wood in yet?
do not archiveBill Naumuk
HDS Fuselage
Townville, Pa----- Original Message ----- From: LHusky@aol.com To: zenit
h-list@matronics.com Sent: Friday, September 15, 2006 12:31 PMSubject: Z
enith-List: Snow
Well, I went out to do a little work on my fuselage and it started snowi
ng. I can't believe it is snowing this early in the year. I rushed to
get my fuse parts back into my garage since I had taken them out to do a
little work on my wife's truck. I was using air conditioning two days
ago and now I have to find a heater. It is going to get down to 29 toni
ght. OUCH!!! Larry Husky
Lakeview, OR
601XL / Corvair
Building Fuse
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<html><P>It is snowing here in Jackson Hole Wy as I type this. I LO
VE the snow and boy does my 801 love the cold thick air too. <G>.
I am not sure I would admit to hunting at - 41 though....</P>
<P>do not archive<BR><BR><BR>Ben Haas<BR>N801BH<BR>www.haaspowerair
.com<BR><BR>-- "Edward Moody II" <dredmoody@cox.n
et> wrote:<BR></P>
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<DIV>Pussies! I have pussies on my team! I spent three years in the USAF
at Malmstrom AFB, Great Falls, Montana. Hell, I elk hunted the Gallatin
herd at 41degrees below zero, for crying out loud! This morning my back
yard felt like a sauna at 8AM but that's the breaks of living in the sou
twest LA jungle. At least we haven't had a hurricane come ashore this ye
ar (yet).</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>If you get too frozen to hold out, you can come down to Louisiana a
nd I'll put you up in the camper till you thaw out, okay? But you gotta
debur and prime parts while you're here. </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Ed</DIV>
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<B>From:</B> <A title=naumuk@alltel.net href="mailto:naumuk@alltel.n
et">Bill Naumuk</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=zenith-list@matron
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com</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, September 15, 2006
5:19 PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Zenith-List: Snow</D
IV>
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<DIV>Larry-</DIV>
<DIV> Don't remind me!!! I had to stop work on the pro
ject to winterize. We've had snow as early as the last week of September
, but you beat that.</DIV>
<DIV> I empathize, sympatize, whateverize. People in t
he South have no idea what it's like to spend half the year preparing fo
r winter. (Unless you're snowbirds that moved) And don't forget our Cana
dian friends- their South is our North!</DIV>
<DIV> Got your wood in yet? </DIV>
<DIV> &
nbsp; &
nbsp; do not
archive</DIV>
<DIV>Bill Naumuk<BR>HDS Fuselage<BR>Townville, Pa</DIV>
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usky@aol.com</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=zenith-list@matron
ics.com href="mailto:zenith-list@matronics.com">zenith-list@matronics.
com</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, September 15, 2006
12:31 PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Zenith-List: Snow</DIV>
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<DIV>Well, I went out to do a little work on my fuselage and it started
snowing. I can't believe it is snowing this early in the year.&nbs
p; I rushed to get my fuse parts back into my garage since I had taken t
hem out to do a little work on my wife's truck. I was using air co
nditioning two days ago and now I have to find a heater. It is goi
ng to get down to 29 tonight. OUCH!!!</DIV>
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Tim Juhl" <juhl@avci.net>
I don't have them in front of me but as I recall the speeds are listed on one of
the first few pages of the plans you would have got from Zenith.
TJ
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Champ L16A flying
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Chris In Madison" <cowens@cnw.com>
I agree. Larry has a very nice plane. He was kind enough to give me a ride in
it one beautiful summer evening here in Madison (Middleton), WI. Beautiful sunset
on the horizon. It was a very comfortable ride, and his plane is nicely
outfitted. I spent some more time going over it at a recent fly-in and like
it more each time I see it.
I wish you had your plane at Oshkosh this year. I *really* wanted to see it!
It was sad that Larry's was the only one there (other than the factory plane).
Maybe John Faulkner's new white one with the Eggenfellner 6-cyl will be there
next year :-).
Best regards,
Chris
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Waunakee, WI
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Chris In Madison" <cowens@cnw.com>
Thanks for the details, Larry. Much appreciated. You've got a wonderful airplane,
to be sure :-)
Best regards,
Chris
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| Subject: | Re: speed range for flaps |
On Sep 16, 2006, at 5:13 PM, Randy wrote:
> This question is for people that have built, or are building,
> 601xl's. I was looking at Zenith's website for the speed range for
> operating the flaps, but could not find it. Does anyone know what
> the speed range is for the flaps?
>
> Thanks for your help,
> Randy Ferri
> 601xl Jab. 3300
I recieved this file in reply to an email I sent to ZAC, It lists a
Vf of 80 mph:
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| Subject: | Re: Canopy covers |
Phil,
My suggestion was for those who want protection for their aircraft
and nothing else. You like a custom made cover with your aircraft tail
number on it for the same reason I have a gold emblem on my Cadillac.
The car came with black tire valve screw on covers, and the hood
ornament was silver but I had to have gold.
The rabbit skin really works if you have a problem with birds
landing on your aircraft when it is parked and craping on it whenever
they feel like it. I made one up when I had a Beachcraft parked at
Meadow Lark Field, Hunting Beach, California and it got craped on all
the time until I put that "Scarecrow" on it and no more bird crap.
I am never offended by people who have a different view point than
I do.
Bob Stone
----- Original Message -----
From: Phil Maxson
To: Robert L. Stone
Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2006 5:19 PM
Subject: RE: Zenith-List: Canopy covers
Please don't take offense with the following comments. It's hard to
believe, but on occasion, people on this list take my comments the wrong
way :-) I admire the frugal nature of your suggestion.
I saw the post many months ago, about the blanket and tarp idea, and
also a "custom cover" using a table cloth with a soft interior surface.
The reason I didn't go with this option is I thought it would look like
a tarp and a blanket! Or a tablecloth strapped to my plane! I didn't
like the look of it. SO, I went with the a custom, color matched cover
from Bruce's Custom Covers. He already had the template for the XL and
it looks beautiful. I liked it so much I went back for a prop/spinner
cover.
I liked the idea about the rabbit skin.
Phil Maxson
601XL/Corvair
Northwest New Jersey
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To: zenith-list@matronics.com
Subject: Zenith-List: Canopy covers
Date: Sat, 16 Sep 2006 11:57:13 -0500
Members,
There is no point or advantage in having a custom fitted cover
made for your aircraft. A cotton blanket and a silver 10' X 12' tarp
with grommets that you can tie 1/4" nylon rope will work just as well as
an expensive custom cover.
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Ed-
Talk about pussies- you moved, I'm still here!
Bill Naumuk
HDS Fuselage
Townville, Pa
----- Original Message -----
From: Edward Moody II
To: zenith-list@matronics.com
Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2006 2:58 PM
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Snow
Pussies! I have pussies on my team! I spent three years in the USAF at
Malmstrom AFB, Great Falls, Montana. Hell, I elk hunted the Gallatin
herd at 41degrees below zero, for crying out loud! This morning my
backyard felt like a sauna at 8AM but that's the breaks of living in the
soutwest LA jungle. At least we haven't had a hurricane come ashore this
year (yet).
If you get too frozen to hold out, you can come down to Louisiana and
I'll put you up in the camper till you thaw out, okay? But you gotta
debur and prime parts while you're here.
Ed
----- Original Message -----
From: Bill Naumuk
To: zenith-list@matronics.com
Sent: Friday, September 15, 2006 5:19 PM
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Snow
Larry-
Don't remind me!!! I had to stop work on the project to
winterize. We've had snow as early as the last week of September, but
you beat that.
I empathize, sympatize, whateverize. People in the South have no
idea what it's like to spend half the year preparing for winter. (Unless
you're snowbirds that moved) And don't forget our Canadian friends-
their South is our North!
Got your wood in yet?
do not archive
Bill Naumuk
HDS Fuselage
Townville, Pa
----- Original Message -----
From: LHusky@aol.com
To: zenith-list@matronics.com
Sent: Friday, September 15, 2006 12:31 PM
Subject: Zenith-List: Snow
Well, I went out to do a little work on my fuselage and it started
snowing. I can't believe it is snowing this early in the year. I
rushed to get my fuse parts back into my garage since I had taken them
out to do a little work on my wife's truck. I was using air
conditioning two days ago and now I have to find a heater. It is going
to get down to 29 tonight. OUCH!!!
Larry Husky
Lakeview, OR
601XL / Corvair
Building Fuse
Do Not Archive
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Where you can stare at rocks and dream of trees. For that matter, a
lawn. (My cousin lives in Flag)
do not archive
Bill Naumuk
HDS Fuselage
Townville, Pa
----- Original Message -----
From: Jerry Latimer
To: zenith-list@matronics.com
Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2006 5:29 PM
Subject: RE: Zenith-List: Snow
Isn't -40 C equal to -40 F?
It's 94 F and bright sunshine here in Phoenix.
Jerry
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Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2006 2:18 PM
To: zenith-list@matronics.com
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Snow
> Pussies! ....41degrees
Are you talking about fahrenheits? Pussie! :-)
At normal winter day, we have minus 35 degrees celsius easily.
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There's one thing positive about winter, if you're wood's in and
everything's insulated. No better time to work on your project without
guilt!
Unlike some of us that can just sit on their back porch drinking
hurricanes and wait for them! Know what I mean Vern, er Ed?
do not archive
This topic was a harmless diversion, but over and out.
Bill Naumuk
HDS Fuselage
Townville, Pa
----- Original Message -----
From: n801bh@netzero.com
To: zenith-list@matronics.com
Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2006 8:00 PM
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Snow
It is snowing here in Jackson Hole Wy as I type this. I LOVE the snow
and boy does my 801 love the cold thick air too. <G>. I am not sure I
would admit to hunting at - 41 though....
do not archive
Ben Haas
N801BH
www.haaspowerair.com
-- "Edward Moody II" <dredmoody@cox.net> wrote:
Pussies! I have pussies on my team! I spent three years in the USAF at
Malmstrom AFB, Great Falls, Montana. Hell, I elk hunted the Gallatin
herd at 41degrees below zero, for crying out loud! This morning my
backyard felt like a sauna at 8AM but that's the breaks of living in the
soutwest LA jungle. At least we haven't had a hurricane come ashore this
year (yet).
If you get too frozen to hold out, you can come down to Louisiana and
I'll put you up in the camper till you thaw out, okay? But you gotta
debur and prime parts while you're here.
Ed
----- Original Message -----
From: Bill Naumuk
To: zenith-list@matronics.com
Sent: Friday, September 15, 2006 5:19 PM
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Snow
Larry-
Don't remind me!!! I had to stop work on the project to
winterize. We've had snow as early as the last week of September, but
you beat that.
I empathize, sympatize, whateverize. People in the South have no
idea what it's like to spend half the year preparing for winter. (Unless
you're snowbirds that moved) And don't forget our Canadian friends-
their South is our North!
Got your wood in yet?
do not archive
Bill Naumuk
HDS Fuselage
Townville, Pa
----- Original Message -----
From: LHusky@aol.com
To: zenith-list@matronics.com
Sent: Friday, September 15, 2006 12:31 PM
Subject: Zenith-List: Snow
Well, I went out to do a little work on my fuselage and it started
snowing. I can't believe it is snowing this early in the year. I
rushed to get my fuse parts back into my garage since I had taken them
out to do a little work on my wife's truck. I was using air
conditioning two days ago and now I have to find a heater. It is going
to get down to 29 tonight. OUCH!!!
Larry Husky
Lakeview, OR
601XL / Corvair
Building Fuse
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| Subject: | 701 Upper Elevator Horn |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Ryan Vechinski" <brothapig@hotmail.com>
Fellow 701 builders;
I am currently working on finishing up the elevator, and I am trying to
figure out the upper elevator horn, part number 7H5-1. First of all, I
don't believe that it is drawn correctly when looking at the "top" view. I
cannot figure out how far in to taper the front of the horn (the dashed line
with the work "cut" in the drawings) Could someone help me understand this?
I hope I am explaining this enough. I will try to scan an image in if
necessary. Thanks in advance.
Ryan
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