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     1. 12:56 AM - Re: speed range for flaps (Phil Maxson)
     2. 01:06 AM - Re: 701 Upper Elevator Horn (John Marzulli)
     3. 05:45 AM - Re: Zenith-List Digest: 27 Msgs - 09/16/06 (John Bolding)
     4. 06:03 AM - Re: Snow (Edward Moody II)
     5. 06:36 AM - Re: 801 Builders --OOPS) (Larry Landucci)
     6. 07:53 AM - Re: 601 Canopy Covers (JAPhillipsGA@aol.com)
     7. 08:56 AM - Re: 601 Canopy Covers (JAPhillipsGA@aol.com)
     8. 09:02 AM - Re: 601 Canopy Covers (JAPhillipsGA@aol.com)
     9. 09:19 AM - Re: Snow Blind Curse  (JAPhillipsGA@aol.com)
    10. 09:35 AM - Jab 3300 CHT Solution Photos (JAPhillipsGA@aol.com)
    11. 11:08 AM - Re: Cost of Reducer For Zinc Chromate (Dave)
    12. 11:22 AM - Re: Jab 3300 CHT Solution Photos (Craig Payne)
    13. 12:07 PM - Re: Snow Blind Curse (Jari Kaija)
    14. 01:32 PM - test pic attach (Geoff Heap)
    15. 02:19 PM - 601 XL Factory Kit for sale (Afterfxllc@aol.com)
    16. 02:29 PM - 701 Aileron rod horn interference (Geoff Heap)
    17. 02:54 PM - Re: Snow Blind Curse  (Bill Naumuk)
    18. 03:56 PM - Re: Re: Snow Blind Curse  (Jim Hoak)
    19. 05:33 PM - IO-360 (Dave Ruddiman)
    20. 05:43 PM - IO-360 Fuel Tanks (Dave Ruddiman)
    21. 06:01 PM - 7H5-1 (rhartwig11@juno.com)
    22. 06:08 PM - Re: 601 XL Factory Kit for sale (Robert L. Stone)
    23. 06:11 PM - Re: IO-360 (n801bh@netzero.com)
    24. 06:32 PM - Familiarization flight time (george may)
    25. 06:41 PM - Re: IO-360 (Dave Ruddiman)
    26. 06:44 PM - Re: 601 XL Factory Kit for sale (Robin Bellach)
    27. 08:09 PM - Instruments (4rcsimmons@comcast.net (Rich Simmons))
    28. 08:32 PM - Re: 701 Upper Elevator Horn (johndread@wildblue.net)
    29. 08:44 PM - Re: Instruments (J2j3h4@aol.com)
    30. 09:10 PM - Ballistic recovery chute in an XL (Craig Payne)
    31. 09:19 PM - Re: 601 Canopy Covers (Steve Shuck)
    32. 09:31 PM - Re: Instruments (Craig Payne)
    33. 09:49 PM - Re: Instruments (Craig Payne)
 
 
 
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| Subject:  | speed range for flaps | 
      
      I have mine placarded (white arc) to use flaps below 80 mph indicated.  I r
      egularly deploy them at that speed, and have never had a problem.Phil Maxso
      n601XL/CorvairNorthwest New Jersey
      
      
      From: rpf@wi.rr.comSubject: Zenith-List: speed range for flaps
      
      
      Does anyone know what the speed range is for the flaps?
      
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| Subject:  | Re: 701 Upper Elevator Horn | 
      
      While I didn't scratch build the horns, they did cause me a large amount of
      trouble. Here are all my notes from the elevator build:
      
      http://701builder.blogspot.com/search/label/Elevator
      
      While not a direct answer to your issue, hopefully you can avoid the same
      mistakes I made.
      
      Good luck!
      -John in Seattle
      
      On 9/16/06, Ryan Vechinski <brothapig@hotmail.com> wrote:
      >
      > --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Ryan Vechinski" <brothapig@hotmail.com
      > >
      >
      > Fellow 701 builders;
      >
      > I am currently working on finishing up the elevator, and I am trying to
      > figure out the upper elevator horn, part number 7H5-1.  First of all, I
      > don't believe that it is drawn correctly when looking at the "top"
      > view.  I
      > cannot figure out how far in to taper the front of the horn (the dashed
      > line
      > with the work "cut" in the drawings)  Could someone help me understand
      > this?
      >   I hope I am explaining this enough.  I will try to scan an image in if
      > necessary.  Thanks in advance.
      >
      > Ryan
      >
      >
      
      
      -- 
      John Marzulli
      http://701Builder.blogspot.com/
      
      "Flying a plane is no different than riding a bicycle... it's just a lot
      harder to put baseball cards in the spokes.
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Zenith-List Digest: 27 Msgs - 09/16/06 | 
      
      --> Zenith-List message posted by: "John Bolding" <jnbolding1@teleshare.net>
      
      AW Shucks,  That pesky seat belt bracket keeps interrupting our life and
      death discussion of zinc chromate and canopy covers...
      
      Interesting timing,   yesterday I talked to a good friend of mine that had
      his first aircraft accident in almost 40 yrs of flying.  forgot to turn on
      the fuel, engine quit at 75' and he hit the ground at about 40 degrees, tore
      the gear out,flipped over and busted up the plane pretty good but other than
      a puncture wound in the calf and MASSIVE bruises the size of a saucer from
      the seat belt/shoulder harness he was in good shape,  no failure of the
      restraint system. This is on a 250# airplane so a good system does not have
      to weigh much, just be properly designed.
      Seems like I'm gonna be the designated hitter on this issue so I'll write a
      letter to Zenith expressing my (our??) concerns in this very important area
      of design and see what shakes out. Stay tuned, this has the potential to get
      ugly.    LOW&SLOW   John
      
      
      > From: "n801bh@netzero.com" <n801bh@netzero.com>
       > n another note we lost another 801 last month. The pilot/builder is ok t
      > hank god and he will share his story when he feels more comfortable talk
      
      > I will say he  is concerned that the seat belt attach bracket failed
      too....
      
      
      > Ben Haas
      > N801BH
      > www.haaspowerair.com
      >
      
      
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      I didn't say it was one of my best decisions.....
      
      I like the snow too, except for shovelling it.
      
      Ed
        ----- Original Message ----- 
        From: n801bh@netzero.com 
        To: zenith-list@matronics.com 
        Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2006 7:00 PM
        Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Snow
      
      
        It is snowing here in Jackson Hole Wy as I type this. I LOVE the snow 
      and boy does my 801 love the cold thick air too. <G>. I am not sure I 
      would admit to hunting at - 41 though....
      
        do not archive
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: 801 Builders --OOPS) | 
      
      --> Zenith-List message posted by: Larry Landucci <lllanducci@tds.net>
      
      Sorry, but my recent description of my 801 had a significant error.  
      When I spoke of the one inch thick insulation foam, I actually meant 
      one/half inch thick. But in most locations I used two layers for a 
      total thickness of one inch.
      
      Larry Landucci -- N801LL
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: 601 Canopy Covers | 
      
      Al, I'm sorry to hear your wife is still ill. Joy and I hope she recovers 
      quickly. On the cover, sure sounds good to me. Ask him to make one, if you are
      
      satisfied I want one as well. I have to fly up to Griffin Tuesday to get the 
      transponder certified. I plan on making some x-county flights this fall and 
      winter. Best regards, Bill
      
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| Subject:  | Re: 601 Canopy Covers | 
      
      Jim, your still here !!. I haven't heard from or seen you in an age. Do you 
      ever get out to the airport ? I haven't called the Kennon folks yet, but I have
      
      their number. Hope to see you soon, come by the hanger sometime. I'll 
      probably be there, Best regards, Bill 
      
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| Subject:  | Re: 601 Canopy Covers | 
      
      Jack, sure looks good to me. Are you satisfied with the workmanship? I think 
      I will try to order a cover from Marcie when I get the number, thanks, Bill
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Snow Blind Curse  | 
      
      Yankee Friends, it tain't that we men of the South just don't know what it's 
      like to live in the frozen hell of the north. We do ! It's just that we are 
      also smart enough not to choose to live there. Course, GOD blessing us to been
      
      born down here abouts, helped out some too. Best wishes, Bill of Georgia
      do not archive
      
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| Subject:  | Jab 3300 CHT Solution Photos | 
      
      Dear Thread, the other day several folks asked for photos of the mods I made 
      to the ducts that reduced CHTs. I took some photos and will be happy to send 
      them. Unfortunately, I'm not too much up on the transfer options. Where can I 
      send these so that anybody can pull them that wants them ? Also, that my dial 
      up speed won't piss off those that give a dam about computer speed ? Hope to 
      hear back, Bill of Georgia
      N505WP
      601XL-3300  
      
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| Subject:  | Cost of Reducer For Zinc Chromate | 
      
      Cost of Reducer For Zinc ChromateIt's plain ol toluene get it at menards,
      home depot, local hardware store, etc.
        Dave 601-HD 912ULS
      
      
        I was going to order a quart of reducer from ACS for the zinc chromate
      primer I purchased.  However I was surprised to learn that although the
      price is $9.70, the total cost of shipping, with the hazmat surcharge, is
      $41.  That's a four-fold increase in cost just to get it here!  Does anyone
      know of a cheaper way to acquire this product?  I live in Madison, WI.
      
      
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| Subject:  | Jab 3300 CHT Solution Photos | 
      
      You can post them to the photo/file archive for the list by just e-mailing
      them to Matt with the correct info. If you don't want to mess with that send
      them to me and I will.
      
      http://www.matronics.com/photoshare/
      
      -- Craig
      
      do not archive
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Snow Blind Curse | 
      
      > Course, GOD blessing us to been born down here abouts, helped out some 
      too. Best 
      
      What the god has do with it? Thank your parents. Yep. I want live some 
      warm countries
      too, but thanks to my parents, they didn't move away from Finland :-)
      
      
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      --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Geoff Heap" <stol10@comcast.net>
      
      test do not archive
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=62141#62141
      
      
      Attachments: 
      
      http://forums.matronics.com//files/on_wheels_2_480.jpg
      
      
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| Subject:  | 601 XL Factory Kit for sale | 
      
      MAKE OFFER
      
      I hate to sell this but wife lost her medical and I have no choice. 
      The tail is finished and primed inside and out with DuPont 2 part  primer.
      The fush. is 80% complete and is also primed inside and out, it is on it's  
      mains and has the dual stick option. The canopy is 60% complete on the fush. 
      The wings haven't been started. I bought the landing light option and the  
      wing baggage doors.
      I also got the strobe option.
      I have 2 corvair motors along with WW's books and tapes.
      Please contact me off line at 502-644-8123 
      Kit is located in Louisville Ky.
      Jeff
      
      
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| Subject:  | 701 Aileron rod horn interference | 
      
      --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Geoff Heap" <stol10@comcast.net>
      
      I bought the control kit from ZAC. After assembly I see that without the elevator
      wires hooked up, the torque tube is able to slide forward until the boltheads
      going through the aileron rod horn 7C2-3 (and rod ends) interfere with the
      top flange of the BOTTOM CHANNEL 7F6-1. In this position the ailerons cannot work.
      The only scenario I can see where this can be disastrous is if the elevator
      wires go slack in flight (for any reason you care to think of) In this situation
      hopefully the wires just go a little slack ( I'm not even talking about
      complete failure such as a broken wire). OK, but now there is no tension from
      said wire to hold the torque tube in the aftmost position. If the torque tube
      now slides forward about 5/16" I've lost aileron control. There is an in flight
      fix for this which is not acceptable to me. Simply push the torque tube back
      with my right hand and aileron control is back.
      Variation in assy from one 701 to another does not alter this condition that I
      can see. On page 7C2 two dimension changes for the rod horn would solve this.
      Dims 25 mm and 8 mm should both be increased by 9mm to 34 and 17.
      I solved this to my satisfaction with a piece of pvc tube from home depot cost
      about 0.50c. OD is 1.25. I had to open up the ID to 1.135 then cut it off and
      belt sand it to .30 long. It weighs nothing and hopefully will sit there for years
      doing nothing as it doesn't touch anything. But one day..............it might
      have a job to do. see attached
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=62144#62144
      
      
      Attachments: 
      
      http://forums.matronics.com//files/dscf0025_185.jpg
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Snow Blind Curse  | 
      
      Bill-
          Closer to warm climes sounds closer to Hell to me.
                                      do not archive
      Bill Naumuk
      HDS Fuselage
      Townville, Pa
        ----- Original Message ----- 
        From: JAPhillipsGA@aol.com 
        To: zenith-list@matronics.com 
        Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2006 12:18 PM
        Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Snow Blind Curse 
      
      
        Yankee Friends, it tain't that we men of the South just don't know 
      what it's like to live in the frozen hell of the north. We do ! It's 
      just that we are also smart enough not to choose to live there. Course, 
      GOD blessing us to been born down here abouts, helped out some too. Best 
      wishes, Bill of Georgia
        do not archive 
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Snow Blind Curse  | 
      
      Bill Naumuk I am originally from Pa ( been in Ga for 43 years ) and live 
      near Bill of Ga. I've ssen him sweat in his shop and hangar. In the 
      summer Ga IS HELL!
      
      do not archive 
      
      Jim Hoak - also of GA
        ----- Original Message ----- 
        From: Bill Naumuk 
        To: zenith-list@matronics.com 
        Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2006 5:53 PM
        Subject: [Norton AntiSpam] Re: Zenith-List: Snow Blind Curse 
      
      
        Bill-
            Closer to warm climes sounds closer to Hell to me.
                                        do not archive
        Bill Naumuk
        HDS Fuselage
        Townville, Pa
          ----- Original Message ----- 
          From: JAPhillipsGA@aol.com 
          To: zenith-list@matronics.com 
          Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2006 12:18 PM
          Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Snow Blind Curse 
      
      
          Yankee Friends, it tain't that we men of the South just don't know 
      what it's like to live in the frozen hell of the north. We do ! It's 
      just that we are also smart enough not to choose to live there. Course, 
      GOD blessing us to been born down here abouts, helped out some too. Best 
      wishes, Bill of Georgia
          do not archive 
      
      
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      This might be a silly question, and since I have never flown a plane 
      with fuel injection, what do you do about mixture. Is that compensated 
      for with the injection? Just one more thing I would like to know for the 
      future. Also, pros and cons of fuel injection? Also for you 801 
      builders, did you buy firewall forward stuff from Zenith. How about the 
      prop? I'm not really an experimenter, just an assembler and trying to 
      make this as easy as possible.
      
      Thanks in advance.
      
      Dave in Salem
      CH801 (Fuel injected?)
      
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| Subject:  | IO-360 Fuel Tanks | 
      
      Do I need a return line to the tank for fuel injection, like on a car?
      
      Thanks again,
      
      Dave in Salem    
      CH801 trying to figure out a few things.
      
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      --> Zenith-List message posted by: rhartwig11@juno.com
      
      Ryan,
      I drilled and clecoed 7H5-1 in place, then marked a taper back to the
      angle extrusion, and a taper on the flange back to the spar.
      Rich Hartwig
      Waunakee, WI
      rhartwig11@juno.com
      
      >part number 7H5-1.  First of all, I 
      >don't believe that it is drawn correctly when looking at the "top" view.
       I 
      >cannot figure out how far in to taper the front of the horn (the dashed
      line 
      >with the work "cut" in the drawings)
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: 601 XL Factory Kit for sale | 
      
      Jeff,
           Don't you think it might be a good idea to tell us what you are 
      selling and what price you have in mind?????
        ----- Original Message ----- 
        From: Afterfxllc@aol.com 
        To: zenith-list@matronics.com 
        Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2006 4:18 PM
        Subject: Zenith-List: 601 XL Factory Kit for sale
      
      
        MAKE OFFER
      
        I hate to sell this but wife lost her medical and I have no choice. 
        The tail is finished and primed inside and out with DuPont 2 part 
      primer.
        The fush. is 80% complete and is also primed inside and out, it is on 
      it's mains and has the dual stick option. The canopy is 60% complete on 
      the fush. 
        The wings haven't been started. I bought the landing light option and 
      the wing baggage doors.
        I also got the strobe option.
        I have 2 corvair motors along with WW's books and tapes.
        Please contact me off line at 502-644-8123 
        Kit is located in Louisville Ky.
        Jeff
      
      
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      The IO-360 engine is wider then a O-360 by a little bit. The cowling zen
      ith sells will not clear the valve covers of the IO motor. You will have
       to modify the cowling to get it to fit. It probably won't be a big deal
       though, just fiberglass on some small teardrop bumps.... The fuel injec
      ted engine will still have a mixture control just like the planes you fl
      y now, and yes you will need to provide for a return line.
      do not archive
      
      
      Ben Haas
      N801BH
      www.haaspowerair.com
      
      -- "Dave Ruddiman" <pacificpainting@comcast.net> wrote:
      
      This might be a silly question, and since I have never flown a plane wit
      h fuel injection, what do you do about mixture. Is that compensated for 
      with the injection? Just one more thing I would like to know for the fut
      ure. Also, pros and cons of fuel injection? Also for you 801 builders, d
      id you buy firewall forward stuff from Zenith. How about the prop? I'm n
      ot really an experimenter, just an assembler and trying to make this as 
      easy as possible. Thanks in advance. Dave in SalemCH801 (Fuel injected?)
      ========================
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      ========================
      ========================
      ========================
      ========================
      ========================
      ================
      <html><P>The IO-360 engine is wider then a O-360 by a little bit. The co
      wling zenith sells will not clear the valve covers of the IO motor. You 
      will have to modify the cowling to get it to fit. It probably won't
       be a big deal though, just fiberglass on some small teardrop bumps.... 
      The fuel injected engine will still have a mixture control just like the
       planes you fly now, and yes you will need to provide for a return line.
      </P>
      <P>do not archive<BR><BR><BR>Ben Haas<BR>N801BH<BR>www.haaspowerair
      .com<BR><BR>-- "Dave Ruddiman" <pacificpainting@comcas
      t.net> wrote:<BR></P>
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      <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>This might be a silly question, and sin
      ce I have never flown a plane with fuel injection, what do you do about 
      mixture. Is that compensated for with the injection? Just one more thing
       I would like to know for the future. Also, pros and cons of fuel inject
      ion? Also for you 801 builders, did you buy firewall forward stuff from 
      Zenith. How about the prop? I'm not really an experimenter, just an asse
      mbler and trying to make this as easy as possible.</FONT></DIV>
      <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
      <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Thanks in advance.</FONT></DIV>
      <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
      <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Dave in Salem</FONT></DIV>
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| Subject:  | Familiarization flight time | 
      
      --> Zenith-List message posted by: "george may" <gfmjr_20@hotmail.com>
      
      Well, it was bound to happen eventually-----the bird is complete and the FAA 
      inspection scheduled.
      Now I need some flight time in a 601XL.
      Is there anyone in New England that would be willing to help out in getting 
      me a couple of hours flight time in their 601XL?  Would really appreciate 
      it.
         Please contact me offlist if you can accommodate
      
      Thanks
      George May
      601XL 912s
      
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      Got something to buy, sell or swap? Try Windows Live Expo  
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      Thanks Ben
      
      
        ----- Original Message ----- 
        From: n801bh@netzero.com 
        To: zenith-list@matronics.com 
        Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2006 6:08 PM
        Subject: Re: Zenith-List: IO-360
      
      
        The IO-360 engine is wider then a O-360 by a little bit. The cowling 
      zenith sells will not clear the valve covers of the IO motor. You will 
      have to modify the cowling to get it to fit. It probably won't be a big 
      deal though, just fiberglass on some small teardrop bumps.... The fuel 
      injected engine will still have a mixture control just like the planes 
      you fly now, and yes you will need to provide for a return line.
      
        do not archive
      
      
        Ben Haas
        N801BH
        www.haaspowerair.com
      
        -- "Dave Ruddiman" <pacificpainting@comcast.net> wrote:
      
      
        This might be a silly question, and since I have never flown a plane 
      with fuel injection, what do you do about mixture. Is that compensated 
      for with the injection? Just one more thing I would like to know for the 
      future. Also, pros and cons of fuel injection? Also for you 801 
      builders, did you buy firewall forward stuff from Zenith. How about the 
      prop? I'm not really an experimenter, just an assembler and trying to 
      make this as easy as possible.
      
        Thanks in advance.
      
        Dave in Salem
        CH801 (Fuel injected?)
      
      
      ">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Zenith-List
      tronics.com
      ics.com
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| Subject:  | Re: 601 XL Factory Kit for sale | 
      
      Robert,
           Don't you think it might be a good idea to contact Jeff directly as 
      he requested if your are interested in the 601XL kit that he described 
      and indicated that he was open to offers on?
      
      Do not archive.
        ----- Original Message ----- 
        From: Robert L. Stone 
        To: zenith-list@matronics.com 
        Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2006 8:07 PM
        Subject: Re: Zenith-List: 601 XL Factory Kit for sale
      
      
        Jeff,
             Don't you think it might be a good idea to tell us what you are 
      selling and what price you have in mind?????
          ----- Original Message ----- 
          From: Afterfxllc@aol.com 
          To: zenith-list@matronics.com 
          Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2006 4:18 PM
          Subject: Zenith-List: 601 XL Factory Kit for sale
      
      
          MAKE OFFER
      
          I hate to sell this but wife lost her medical and I have no choice. 
          The tail is finished and primed inside and out with DuPont 2 part 
      primer.
          The fush. is 80% complete and is also primed inside and out, it is 
      on it's mains and has the dual stick option. The canopy is 60% complete 
      on the fush. 
          The wings haven't been started. I bought the landing light option 
      and the wing baggage doors.
          I also got the strobe option.
          I have 2 corvair motors along with WW's books and tapes.
          Please contact me off line at 502-644-8123 
          Kit is located in Louisville Ky.
          Jeff
      
      
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      For those of you flying or far enough along to have purchaesed gauges/instruments,
      what is hot and what is not.
      
      i would like to see what others are doing. I am still thinking about the standard
      six pack.
      
      --
      Thanks, 
      Rich Simmons
      601 XL - Working on the wings
      <html><body>
      <DIV>For those of you flying or far enough along to have purchaesed gauges/instruments,
      what is hot and what is not.</DIV>
      <DIV> </DIV>
      <DIV>i would like to see what others are doing. I am still thinking about the standard
      six pack.</DIV>
      <DIV> </DIV>
      <DIV class=signature id=signature>--<BR>Thanks, <BR>Rich Simmons</DIV>
      <DIV class=signature>601 XL - Working on the wings</DIV>
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: 701 Upper Elevator Horn | 
      
      --> Zenith-List message posted by: johndread@wildblue.net
      
      Hi Ryan:
      
                     I was just working on the same part last evening. I have
      noticed that none of the angles shown on the Zenith
      drawings are very precise. Part of the learning experience
      I suppose! The way I generated the angle for the "cut" on
      the part was as follows. After locating the upper horn on
      the elevator I made a mark where the rivet flange aligned
      with the front edge of the spar. Then I measured 20mm as is
      shown on the drawing along the flange, make a line at right
      angles across the flange. Where this line meets the curve
      of the vertical is where the bottom of the "cut" is
      located. Draw a line from this position to the 12mm radius
      indicated on the drawings. Then bandsaw and file to shape.
      Hope this helps. Call me at 303-648-3261 if you need more
      help.
      
      John Read - working hard on my 701 in Colorado
      
      > --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Ryan Vechinski"
      > <brothapig@hotmail.com>
      >
      > Fellow 701 builders;
      >
      > I am currently working on finishing up the elevator, and I am trying to
      > figure out the upper elevator horn, part number 7H5-1.  First of all, I
      > don't believe that it is drawn correctly when looking at the "top" view.
      > I
      > cannot figure out how far in to taper the front of the horn (the dashed
      > line
      > with the work "cut" in the drawings)  Could someone help me understand
      > this?
      >   I hope I am explaining this enough.  I will try to scan an image in if
      > necessary.  Thanks in advance.
      >
      > Ryan
      >
      >
      
      
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      If you decide to go with the standard instruments, I have most of these for  
      sale, used, from an RV-7 project I was planning before I learned that I could 
      
      not pass the medical.
      
      Jim Hasper
      
      
      In a message dated 9/17/2006 10:13:06 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
      4rcsimmons@comcast.net writes:
      
      For those of you flying or far enough along to have purchased  
      gauges/instruments, what is hot and what is not.
      
      i would like to see what others are doing. I am still thinking about the  
      standard six pack.
      
      --
      Thanks, 
      Rich Simmons
      601 XL - Working on the wings
      
      
      (http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Zenith-List) 
      (http://www.matronics.com/contribution) 
      
      
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| Subject:  | Ballistic recovery chute in an XL | 
      
      --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Craig Payne" <craig@craigandjean.com>
      
      I've been looking at the feasibility of installing a chute in an XL. The way
      I read the weight and balance numbers installing 28 to 30 pounds of gear at
      the rear of the luggage platform would leave you with a plane with greatly
      reduced usability - especially with two adults but no luggage. Interestingly
      the trouble come as fuel gets low - around 7 gallons with two FAA standard
      170 lb adults. I'm basing my analysis on a spreadsheet that David X. sent
      out on July 31st.
      
      Can anyone with experience installing a chute in an XL give me their
      analysis?
      
      -- Craig
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: 601 Canopy Covers | 
      
      
        ----- Original Message ----- 
        From: Jack Russell 
        To: zenith-list@matronics.com 
        Sent: Friday, September 15, 2006 9:06 PM
        Subject: Re: Zenith-List: 601 Canopy Covers
      
      
        I posted a couple of pics on my webpage.  
      http://www.geocities.com/clojan@sbcglobal.net/zodiacbarn4.html
        The contact info for Marcie will follow later.
        Jack.   Remember that my page is a cheapo and you can't all look at 
      once. 
        do not archive
      
        JAPhillipsGA@aol.com wrote:
          Jack, that sounds like just what I'm looking for. I would really 
      appreciate you putting me in touch with this fine lady. My home phone is 
      478-994-9196, work is 478-827-0236. Thanks and best regards, Bill 
         
      
      
      Jack Russell -Clovis CA601 XL Jabiru 3300
       Progress update at:
      http://www.geocities.com/clojan@sbcglobal.net/zodiacbarn.html
      
      
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      Lots of folks are going with the newer, entry-level glass panels. The Dynon
      units are popular especially the new D180 EMS/EFIS combo:
      
      www.dynonavionics.com/
      
      Other candidates are from Grand Rapids Technologies, Blue Mountain Avionics
      and MGL Avionics:
      
      www.grtavionics.com/images.htm
      www.bluemountainavionics.com
      www.mglavionics.co.za and www.sportflyingshop.com/
      
      I'm going with MGL's new "Enigma".
      
      -- Craig
      
      
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      One vendor I forgot: Advanced Flight Systems:
      
      www.advanced-control-systems.com
      
      BTW: there is a two-edged sword with the new glass panels: things are
      changing rapidly so put off choosing and ordering as long as you can (same
      with GPS's). But most vendors pre-announce and have long delivery times
      (Dynon is one exception). So order early ;-)
      
      -- Craig
      
      
 
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