Zenith-List Digest Archive

Sun 09/17/06


Total Messages Posted: 33



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     1. 12:56 AM - Re: speed range for flaps (Phil Maxson)
     2. 01:06 AM - Re: 701 Upper Elevator Horn (John Marzulli)
     3. 05:45 AM - Re: Zenith-List Digest: 27 Msgs - 09/16/06 (John Bolding)
     4. 06:03 AM - Re: Snow (Edward Moody II)
     5. 06:36 AM - Re: 801 Builders --OOPS) (Larry Landucci)
     6. 07:53 AM - Re: 601 Canopy Covers (JAPhillipsGA@aol.com)
     7. 08:56 AM - Re: 601 Canopy Covers (JAPhillipsGA@aol.com)
     8. 09:02 AM - Re: 601 Canopy Covers (JAPhillipsGA@aol.com)
     9. 09:19 AM - Re: Snow Blind Curse  (JAPhillipsGA@aol.com)
    10. 09:35 AM - Jab 3300 CHT Solution Photos (JAPhillipsGA@aol.com)
    11. 11:08 AM - Re: Cost of Reducer For Zinc Chromate (Dave)
    12. 11:22 AM - Re: Jab 3300 CHT Solution Photos (Craig Payne)
    13. 12:07 PM - Re: Snow Blind Curse (Jari Kaija)
    14. 01:32 PM - test pic attach (Geoff Heap)
    15. 02:19 PM - 601 XL Factory Kit for sale (Afterfxllc@aol.com)
    16. 02:29 PM - 701 Aileron rod horn interference (Geoff Heap)
    17. 02:54 PM - Re: Snow Blind Curse  (Bill Naumuk)
    18. 03:56 PM - Re: Re: Snow Blind Curse  (Jim Hoak)
    19. 05:33 PM - IO-360 (Dave Ruddiman)
    20. 05:43 PM - IO-360 Fuel Tanks (Dave Ruddiman)
    21. 06:01 PM - 7H5-1 (rhartwig11@juno.com)
    22. 06:08 PM - Re: 601 XL Factory Kit for sale (Robert L. Stone)
    23. 06:11 PM - Re: IO-360 (n801bh@netzero.com)
    24. 06:32 PM - Familiarization flight time (george may)
    25. 06:41 PM - Re: IO-360 (Dave Ruddiman)
    26. 06:44 PM - Re: 601 XL Factory Kit for sale (Robin Bellach)
    27. 08:09 PM - Instruments (4rcsimmons@comcast.net (Rich Simmons))
    28. 08:32 PM - Re: 701 Upper Elevator Horn (johndread@wildblue.net)
    29. 08:44 PM - Re: Instruments (J2j3h4@aol.com)
    30. 09:10 PM - Ballistic recovery chute in an XL (Craig Payne)
    31. 09:19 PM - Re: 601 Canopy Covers (Steve Shuck)
    32. 09:31 PM - Re: Instruments (Craig Payne)
    33. 09:49 PM - Re: Instruments (Craig Payne)
 
 
 


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    Time: 12:56:42 AM PST US
    From: "Phil Maxson" <pmaxpmax@HOTMAIL.COM>
    Subject: speed range for flaps
    I have mine placarded (white arc) to use flaps below 80 mph indicated. I r egularly deploy them at that speed, and have never had a problem.Phil Maxso n601XL/CorvairNorthwest New Jersey From: rpf@wi.rr.comSubject: Zenith-List: speed range for flaps Does anyone know what the speed range is for the flaps? _________________________________________________________________ Use Messenger to talk to your IM friends, even those on Yahoo! http://ideas.live.com/programpage.aspx?versionId=7adb59de-a857-45ba-81cc- 685ee3e858fe


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    Time: 01:06:03 AM PST US
    From: "John Marzulli" <john.marzulli@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: 701 Upper Elevator Horn
    While I didn't scratch build the horns, they did cause me a large amount of trouble. Here are all my notes from the elevator build: http://701builder.blogspot.com/search/label/Elevator While not a direct answer to your issue, hopefully you can avoid the same mistakes I made. Good luck! -John in Seattle On 9/16/06, Ryan Vechinski <brothapig@hotmail.com> wrote: > > --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Ryan Vechinski" <brothapig@hotmail.com > > > > Fellow 701 builders; > > I am currently working on finishing up the elevator, and I am trying to > figure out the upper elevator horn, part number 7H5-1. First of all, I > don't believe that it is drawn correctly when looking at the "top" > view. I > cannot figure out how far in to taper the front of the horn (the dashed > line > with the work "cut" in the drawings) Could someone help me understand > this? > I hope I am explaining this enough. I will try to scan an image in if > necessary. Thanks in advance. > > Ryan > > -- John Marzulli http://701Builder.blogspot.com/ "Flying a plane is no different than riding a bicycle... it's just a lot harder to put baseball cards in the spokes.


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    Time: 05:45:10 AM PST US
    From: "John Bolding" <jnbolding1@teleshare.net>
    Subject: Re: Zenith-List Digest: 27 Msgs - 09/16/06
    --> Zenith-List message posted by: "John Bolding" <jnbolding1@teleshare.net> AW Shucks, That pesky seat belt bracket keeps interrupting our life and death discussion of zinc chromate and canopy covers... Interesting timing, yesterday I talked to a good friend of mine that had his first aircraft accident in almost 40 yrs of flying. forgot to turn on the fuel, engine quit at 75' and he hit the ground at about 40 degrees, tore the gear out,flipped over and busted up the plane pretty good but other than a puncture wound in the calf and MASSIVE bruises the size of a saucer from the seat belt/shoulder harness he was in good shape, no failure of the restraint system. This is on a 250# airplane so a good system does not have to weigh much, just be properly designed. Seems like I'm gonna be the designated hitter on this issue so I'll write a letter to Zenith expressing my (our??) concerns in this very important area of design and see what shakes out. Stay tuned, this has the potential to get ugly. LOW&SLOW John > From: "n801bh@netzero.com" <n801bh@netzero.com> > n another note we lost another 801 last month. The pilot/builder is ok t > hank god and he will share his story when he feels more comfortable talk > I will say he is concerned that the seat belt attach bracket failed too.... > Ben Haas > N801BH > www.haaspowerair.com >


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    Time: 06:03:01 AM PST US
    From: "Edward Moody II" <dredmoody@cox.net>
    Subject: Re: Snow
    I didn't say it was one of my best decisions..... I like the snow too, except for shovelling it. Ed ----- Original Message ----- From: n801bh@netzero.com To: zenith-list@matronics.com Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2006 7:00 PM Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Snow It is snowing here in Jackson Hole Wy as I type this. I LOVE the snow and boy does my 801 love the cold thick air too. <G>. I am not sure I would admit to hunting at - 41 though.... do not archive


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    Time: 06:36:02 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: 801 Builders --OOPS)
    From: Larry Landucci <lllanducci@tds.net>
    --> Zenith-List message posted by: Larry Landucci <lllanducci@tds.net> Sorry, but my recent description of my 801 had a significant error. When I spoke of the one inch thick insulation foam, I actually meant one/half inch thick. But in most locations I used two layers for a total thickness of one inch. Larry Landucci -- N801LL


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    Time: 07:53:36 AM PST US
    From: JAPhillipsGA@aol.com
    Subject: Re: 601 Canopy Covers
    Al, I'm sorry to hear your wife is still ill. Joy and I hope she recovers quickly. On the cover, sure sounds good to me. Ask him to make one, if you are satisfied I want one as well. I have to fly up to Griffin Tuesday to get the transponder certified. I plan on making some x-county flights this fall and winter. Best regards, Bill


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    Time: 08:56:38 AM PST US
    From: JAPhillipsGA@aol.com
    Subject: Re: 601 Canopy Covers
    Jim, your still here !!. I haven't heard from or seen you in an age. Do you ever get out to the airport ? I haven't called the Kennon folks yet, but I have their number. Hope to see you soon, come by the hanger sometime. I'll probably be there, Best regards, Bill


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    Time: 09:02:41 AM PST US
    From: JAPhillipsGA@aol.com
    Subject: Re: 601 Canopy Covers
    Jack, sure looks good to me. Are you satisfied with the workmanship? I think I will try to order a cover from Marcie when I get the number, thanks, Bill


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    Time: 09:19:10 AM PST US
    From: JAPhillipsGA@aol.com
    Subject: Re: Snow Blind Curse
    Yankee Friends, it tain't that we men of the South just don't know what it's like to live in the frozen hell of the north. We do ! It's just that we are also smart enough not to choose to live there. Course, GOD blessing us to been born down here abouts, helped out some too. Best wishes, Bill of Georgia do not archive


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    Time: 09:35:46 AM PST US
    From: JAPhillipsGA@aol.com
    Subject: Jab 3300 CHT Solution Photos
    Dear Thread, the other day several folks asked for photos of the mods I made to the ducts that reduced CHTs. I took some photos and will be happy to send them. Unfortunately, I'm not too much up on the transfer options. Where can I send these so that anybody can pull them that wants them ? Also, that my dial up speed won't piss off those that give a dam about computer speed ? Hope to hear back, Bill of Georgia N505WP 601XL-3300


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    Time: 11:08:54 AM PST US
    From: "Dave" <daberti@sbcglobal.net>
    Subject: Cost of Reducer For Zinc Chromate
    Cost of Reducer For Zinc ChromateIt's plain ol toluene get it at menards, home depot, local hardware store, etc. Dave 601-HD 912ULS I was going to order a quart of reducer from ACS for the zinc chromate primer I purchased. However I was surprised to learn that although the price is $9.70, the total cost of shipping, with the hazmat surcharge, is $41. That's a four-fold increase in cost just to get it here! Does anyone know of a cheaper way to acquire this product? I live in Madison, WI.


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    Time: 11:22:01 AM PST US
    From: "Craig Payne" <craig@craigandjean.com>
    Subject: Jab 3300 CHT Solution Photos
    You can post them to the photo/file archive for the list by just e-mailing them to Matt with the correct info. If you don't want to mess with that send them to me and I will. http://www.matronics.com/photoshare/ -- Craig do not archive


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    Time: 12:07:11 PM PST US
    From: "Jari Kaija" <jari.kaija@pp.inet.fi>
    Subject: Re: Snow Blind Curse
    > Course, GOD blessing us to been born down here abouts, helped out some too. Best What the god has do with it? Thank your parents. Yep. I want live some warm countries too, but thanks to my parents, they didn't move away from Finland :-)


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    Time: 01:32:24 PM PST US
    Subject: test pic attach
    From: "Geoff Heap" <stol10@comcast.net>
    --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Geoff Heap" <stol10@comcast.net> test do not archive Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=62141#62141 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/on_wheels_2_480.jpg


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    Time: 02:19:38 PM PST US
    From: Afterfxllc@aol.com
    Subject: 601 XL Factory Kit for sale
    MAKE OFFER I hate to sell this but wife lost her medical and I have no choice. The tail is finished and primed inside and out with DuPont 2 part primer. The fush. is 80% complete and is also primed inside and out, it is on it's mains and has the dual stick option. The canopy is 60% complete on the fush. The wings haven't been started. I bought the landing light option and the wing baggage doors. I also got the strobe option. I have 2 corvair motors along with WW's books and tapes. Please contact me off line at 502-644-8123 Kit is located in Louisville Ky. Jeff


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    Time: 02:29:25 PM PST US
    Subject: 701 Aileron rod horn interference
    From: "Geoff Heap" <stol10@comcast.net>
    --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Geoff Heap" <stol10@comcast.net> I bought the control kit from ZAC. After assembly I see that without the elevator wires hooked up, the torque tube is able to slide forward until the boltheads going through the aileron rod horn 7C2-3 (and rod ends) interfere with the top flange of the BOTTOM CHANNEL 7F6-1. In this position the ailerons cannot work. The only scenario I can see where this can be disastrous is if the elevator wires go slack in flight (for any reason you care to think of) In this situation hopefully the wires just go a little slack ( I'm not even talking about complete failure such as a broken wire). OK, but now there is no tension from said wire to hold the torque tube in the aftmost position. If the torque tube now slides forward about 5/16" I've lost aileron control. There is an in flight fix for this which is not acceptable to me. Simply push the torque tube back with my right hand and aileron control is back. Variation in assy from one 701 to another does not alter this condition that I can see. On page 7C2 two dimension changes for the rod horn would solve this. Dims 25 mm and 8 mm should both be increased by 9mm to 34 and 17. I solved this to my satisfaction with a piece of pvc tube from home depot cost about 0.50c. OD is 1.25. I had to open up the ID to 1.135 then cut it off and belt sand it to .30 long. It weighs nothing and hopefully will sit there for years doing nothing as it doesn't touch anything. But one day..............it might have a job to do. see attached Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=62144#62144 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/dscf0025_185.jpg


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    Time: 02:54:50 PM PST US
    From: "Bill Naumuk" <naumuk@alltel.net>
    Subject: Re: Snow Blind Curse
    Bill- Closer to warm climes sounds closer to Hell to me. do not archive Bill Naumuk HDS Fuselage Townville, Pa ----- Original Message ----- From: JAPhillipsGA@aol.com To: zenith-list@matronics.com Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2006 12:18 PM Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Snow Blind Curse Yankee Friends, it tain't that we men of the South just don't know what it's like to live in the frozen hell of the north. We do ! It's just that we are also smart enough not to choose to live there. Course, GOD blessing us to been born down here abouts, helped out some too. Best wishes, Bill of Georgia do not archive


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    Time: 03:56:40 PM PST US
    From: "Jim Hoak" <planejim@bellsouth.net>
    Subject: Re: Snow Blind Curse
    Bill Naumuk I am originally from Pa ( been in Ga for 43 years ) and live near Bill of Ga. I've ssen him sweat in his shop and hangar. In the summer Ga IS HELL! do not archive Jim Hoak - also of GA ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Naumuk To: zenith-list@matronics.com Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2006 5:53 PM Subject: [Norton AntiSpam] Re: Zenith-List: Snow Blind Curse Bill- Closer to warm climes sounds closer to Hell to me. do not archive Bill Naumuk HDS Fuselage Townville, Pa ----- Original Message ----- From: JAPhillipsGA@aol.com To: zenith-list@matronics.com Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2006 12:18 PM Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Snow Blind Curse Yankee Friends, it tain't that we men of the South just don't know what it's like to live in the frozen hell of the north. We do ! It's just that we are also smart enough not to choose to live there. Course, GOD blessing us to been born down here abouts, helped out some too. Best wishes, Bill of Georgia do not archive


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    Time: 05:33:10 PM PST US
    From: "Dave Ruddiman" <pacificpainting@comcast.net>
    Subject: IO-360
    This might be a silly question, and since I have never flown a plane with fuel injection, what do you do about mixture. Is that compensated for with the injection? Just one more thing I would like to know for the future. Also, pros and cons of fuel injection? Also for you 801 builders, did you buy firewall forward stuff from Zenith. How about the prop? I'm not really an experimenter, just an assembler and trying to make this as easy as possible. Thanks in advance. Dave in Salem CH801 (Fuel injected?)


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    Time: 05:43:19 PM PST US
    From: "Dave Ruddiman" <pacificpainting@comcast.net>
    Subject: IO-360 Fuel Tanks
    Do I need a return line to the tank for fuel injection, like on a car? Thanks again, Dave in Salem CH801 trying to figure out a few things.


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    Time: 06:01:14 PM PST US
    Subject: 7H5-1
    From: rhartwig11@juno.com
    --> Zenith-List message posted by: rhartwig11@juno.com Ryan, I drilled and clecoed 7H5-1 in place, then marked a taper back to the angle extrusion, and a taper on the flange back to the spar. Rich Hartwig Waunakee, WI rhartwig11@juno.com >part number 7H5-1. First of all, I >don't believe that it is drawn correctly when looking at the "top" view. I >cannot figure out how far in to taper the front of the horn (the dashed line >with the work "cut" in the drawings)


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    Time: 06:08:31 PM PST US
    From: "Robert L. Stone" <rstone4@hot.rr.com>
    Subject: Re: 601 XL Factory Kit for sale
    Jeff, Don't you think it might be a good idea to tell us what you are selling and what price you have in mind????? ----- Original Message ----- From: Afterfxllc@aol.com To: zenith-list@matronics.com Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2006 4:18 PM Subject: Zenith-List: 601 XL Factory Kit for sale MAKE OFFER I hate to sell this but wife lost her medical and I have no choice. The tail is finished and primed inside and out with DuPont 2 part primer. The fush. is 80% complete and is also primed inside and out, it is on it's mains and has the dual stick option. The canopy is 60% complete on the fush. The wings haven't been started. I bought the landing light option and the wing baggage doors. I also got the strobe option. I have 2 corvair motors along with WW's books and tapes. Please contact me off line at 502-644-8123 Kit is located in Louisville Ky. Jeff


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    Time: 06:11:50 PM PST US
    From: "n801bh@netzero.com" <n801bh@netzero.com>
    Subject: Re: IO-360
    The IO-360 engine is wider then a O-360 by a little bit. The cowling zen ith sells will not clear the valve covers of the IO motor. You will have to modify the cowling to get it to fit. It probably won't be a big deal though, just fiberglass on some small teardrop bumps.... The fuel injec ted engine will still have a mixture control just like the planes you fl y now, and yes you will need to provide for a return line. do not archive Ben Haas N801BH www.haaspowerair.com -- "Dave Ruddiman" <pacificpainting@comcast.net> wrote: This might be a silly question, and since I have never flown a plane wit h fuel injection, what do you do about mixture. Is that compensated for with the injection? Just one more thing I would like to know for the fut ure. Also, pros and cons of fuel injection? Also for you 801 builders, d id you buy firewall forward stuff from Zenith. How about the prop? I'm n ot really an experimenter, just an assembler and trying to make this as easy as possible. Thanks in advance. Dave in SalemCH801 (Fuel injected?) ======================== ======================== ======================== ======================== ======================== ======================== ======================== ======================== ================ <html><P>The IO-360 engine is wider then a O-360 by a little bit. The co wling zenith sells will not clear the valve covers of the IO motor. You will have to modify the cowling&nbsp;to get it to fit. It probably won't be a big deal though, just fiberglass on some small teardrop bumps.... The fuel injected engine will still have a mixture control just like the planes you fly now, and yes you will need to provide for a return line. </P> <P>do not archive<BR><BR><BR>Ben&nbsp;Haas<BR>N801BH<BR>www.haaspowerair .com<BR><BR>--&nbsp;"Dave&nbsp;Ruddiman"&nbsp;&lt;pacificpainting@comcas t.net&gt;&nbsp;wrote:<BR></P> <META content="MSHTML 6.00.2900.2963" name=GENERATOR> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>This might be a silly question, and sin ce I have never flown a plane with fuel injection, what do you do about mixture. Is that compensated for with the injection? Just one more thing I would like to know for the future. Also, pros and cons of fuel inject ion? Also for you 801 builders, did you buy firewall forward stuff from Zenith. How about the prop? I'm not really an experimenter, just an asse mbler and trying to make this as easy as possible.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Thanks in advance.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Dave in Salem</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>CH801 (Fuel injected?)</FONT></DIV><PRE ><B><FONT face="courier new,courier" color=#000000 size=2> ======================== =========== ">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Zenith-List</A> ======================== =========== tronics.com</A> ======================== =========== ics.com</A> ======================== =========== www.matronics.com/contribution</A> ======================== =========== </B></FONT></PRE> <pre><b><font size=2 color="#000000" face="courier new,courier"> </b></font></pre></body></html>


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    Time: 06:32:26 PM PST US
    From: "george may" <gfmjr_20@HOTMAIL.COM>
    Subject: Familiarization flight time
    --> Zenith-List message posted by: "george may" <gfmjr_20@hotmail.com> Well, it was bound to happen eventually-----the bird is complete and the FAA inspection scheduled. Now I need some flight time in a 601XL. Is there anyone in New England that would be willing to help out in getting me a couple of hours flight time in their 601XL? Would really appreciate it. Please contact me offlist if you can accommodate Thanks George May 601XL 912s _________________________________________________________________ Got something to buy, sell or swap? Try Windows Live Expo ttp://clk.atdmt.com/MSN/go/msnnkwex0010000001msn/direct/01/?href=http://expo.live.com/


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    Time: 06:41:26 PM PST US
    From: "Dave Ruddiman" <pacificpainting@comcast.net>
    Subject: Re: IO-360
    Thanks Ben ----- Original Message ----- From: n801bh@netzero.com To: zenith-list@matronics.com Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2006 6:08 PM Subject: Re: Zenith-List: IO-360 The IO-360 engine is wider then a O-360 by a little bit. The cowling zenith sells will not clear the valve covers of the IO motor. You will have to modify the cowling to get it to fit. It probably won't be a big deal though, just fiberglass on some small teardrop bumps.... The fuel injected engine will still have a mixture control just like the planes you fly now, and yes you will need to provide for a return line. do not archive Ben Haas N801BH www.haaspowerair.com -- "Dave Ruddiman" <pacificpainting@comcast.net> wrote: This might be a silly question, and since I have never flown a plane with fuel injection, what do you do about mixture. Is that compensated for with the injection? Just one more thing I would like to know for the future. Also, pros and cons of fuel injection? Also for you 801 builders, did you buy firewall forward stuff from Zenith. How about the prop? I'm not really an experimenter, just an assembler and trying to make this as easy as possible. Thanks in advance. Dave in Salem CH801 (Fuel injected?) ">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Zenith-List tronics.com ics.com www.matronics.com/contribution


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    Time: 06:44:17 PM PST US
    From: "Robin Bellach" <601zv@ritternet.com>
    Subject: Re: 601 XL Factory Kit for sale
    Robert, Don't you think it might be a good idea to contact Jeff directly as he requested if your are interested in the 601XL kit that he described and indicated that he was open to offers on? Do not archive. ----- Original Message ----- From: Robert L. Stone To: zenith-list@matronics.com Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2006 8:07 PM Subject: Re: Zenith-List: 601 XL Factory Kit for sale Jeff, Don't you think it might be a good idea to tell us what you are selling and what price you have in mind????? ----- Original Message ----- From: Afterfxllc@aol.com To: zenith-list@matronics.com Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2006 4:18 PM Subject: Zenith-List: 601 XL Factory Kit for sale MAKE OFFER I hate to sell this but wife lost her medical and I have no choice. The tail is finished and primed inside and out with DuPont 2 part primer. The fush. is 80% complete and is also primed inside and out, it is on it's mains and has the dual stick option. The canopy is 60% complete on the fush. The wings haven't been started. I bought the landing light option and the wing baggage doors. I also got the strobe option. I have 2 corvair motors along with WW's books and tapes. Please contact me off line at 502-644-8123 Kit is located in Louisville Ky. Jeff


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    Time: 08:09:36 PM PST US
    From: 4rcsimmons@comcast.net (Rich Simmons)
    Subject: Instruments
    For those of you flying or far enough along to have purchaesed gauges/instruments, what is hot and what is not. i would like to see what others are doing. I am still thinking about the standard six pack. -- Thanks, Rich Simmons 601 XL - Working on the wings <html><body> <DIV>For those of you flying or far enough along to have purchaesed gauges/instruments, what is hot and what is not.</DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV>i would like to see what others are doing. I am still thinking about the standard six pack.</DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV class=signature id=signature>--<BR>Thanks, <BR>Rich Simmons</DIV> <DIV class=signature>601 XL - Working on the wings</DIV> <pre><b><font size=2 color="#000000" face="courier new,courier"> </b></font></pre></body></html>


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    Time: 08:32:13 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: 701 Upper Elevator Horn
    From: johndread@wildblue.net
    --> Zenith-List message posted by: johndread@wildblue.net Hi Ryan: I was just working on the same part last evening. I have noticed that none of the angles shown on the Zenith drawings are very precise. Part of the learning experience I suppose! The way I generated the angle for the "cut" on the part was as follows. After locating the upper horn on the elevator I made a mark where the rivet flange aligned with the front edge of the spar. Then I measured 20mm as is shown on the drawing along the flange, make a line at right angles across the flange. Where this line meets the curve of the vertical is where the bottom of the "cut" is located. Draw a line from this position to the 12mm radius indicated on the drawings. Then bandsaw and file to shape. Hope this helps. Call me at 303-648-3261 if you need more help. John Read - working hard on my 701 in Colorado > --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Ryan Vechinski" > <brothapig@hotmail.com> > > Fellow 701 builders; > > I am currently working on finishing up the elevator, and I am trying to > figure out the upper elevator horn, part number 7H5-1. First of all, I > don't believe that it is drawn correctly when looking at the "top" view. > I > cannot figure out how far in to taper the front of the horn (the dashed > line > with the work "cut" in the drawings) Could someone help me understand > this? > I hope I am explaining this enough. I will try to scan an image in if > necessary. Thanks in advance. > > Ryan > >


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    Time: 08:44:26 PM PST US
    From: J2j3h4@aol.com
    Subject: Re: Instruments
    If you decide to go with the standard instruments, I have most of these for sale, used, from an RV-7 project I was planning before I learned that I could not pass the medical. Jim Hasper In a message dated 9/17/2006 10:13:06 P.M. Central Daylight Time, 4rcsimmons@comcast.net writes: For those of you flying or far enough along to have purchased gauges/instruments, what is hot and what is not. i would like to see what others are doing. I am still thinking about the standard six pack. -- Thanks, Rich Simmons 601 XL - Working on the wings (http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Zenith-List) (http://www.matronics.com/contribution)


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    Time: 09:10:51 PM PST US
    From: "Craig Payne" <craig@craigandjean.com>
    Subject: Ballistic recovery chute in an XL
    --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Craig Payne" <craig@craigandjean.com> I've been looking at the feasibility of installing a chute in an XL. The way I read the weight and balance numbers installing 28 to 30 pounds of gear at the rear of the luggage platform would leave you with a plane with greatly reduced usability - especially with two adults but no luggage. Interestingly the trouble come as fuel gets low - around 7 gallons with two FAA standard 170 lb adults. I'm basing my analysis on a spreadsheet that David X. sent out on July 31st. Can anyone with experience installing a chute in an XL give me their analysis? -- Craig


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    Time: 09:19:13 PM PST US
    From: "Steve Shuck" <stshuck@comcast.net>
    Subject: Re: 601 Canopy Covers
    ----- Original Message ----- From: Jack Russell To: zenith-list@matronics.com Sent: Friday, September 15, 2006 9:06 PM Subject: Re: Zenith-List: 601 Canopy Covers I posted a couple of pics on my webpage. http://www.geocities.com/clojan@sbcglobal.net/zodiacbarn4.html The contact info for Marcie will follow later. Jack. Remember that my page is a cheapo and you can't all look at once. do not archive JAPhillipsGA@aol.com wrote: Jack, that sounds like just what I'm looking for. I would really appreciate you putting me in touch with this fine lady. My home phone is 478-994-9196, work is 478-827-0236. Thanks and best regards, Bill Jack Russell -Clovis CA601 XL Jabiru 3300 Progress update at: http://www.geocities.com/clojan@sbcglobal.net/zodiacbarn.html


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    Time: 09:31:45 PM PST US
    From: "Craig Payne" <craig@craigandjean.com>
    Subject: Instruments
    Lots of folks are going with the newer, entry-level glass panels. The Dynon units are popular especially the new D180 EMS/EFIS combo: www.dynonavionics.com/ Other candidates are from Grand Rapids Technologies, Blue Mountain Avionics and MGL Avionics: www.grtavionics.com/images.htm www.bluemountainavionics.com www.mglavionics.co.za and www.sportflyingshop.com/ I'm going with MGL's new "Enigma". -- Craig


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    Time: 09:49:09 PM PST US
    From: "Craig Payne" <craig@craigandjean.com>
    Subject: Instruments
    One vendor I forgot: Advanced Flight Systems: www.advanced-control-systems.com BTW: there is a two-edged sword with the new glass panels: things are changing rapidly so put off choosing and ordering as long as you can (same with GPS's). But most vendors pre-announce and have long delivery times (Dynon is one exception). So order early ;-) -- Craig




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