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1. 02:05 AM - GSC propeller and CH701 (Jari.Kaija@pkcgroup.com)
2. 02:35 AM - Re: 801 Fuel Sender Question (Bryan Martin)
3. 03:04 AM - Vs: GSC propeller and CH701 (Jari.Kaija@pkcgroup.com)
4. 03:11 AM - Re: N329F Update (Rick R)
5. 05:33 AM - Re: N329F Update (Al Young)
6. 06:09 AM - Re: N329F Update (n801bh@netzero.com)
7. 06:13 AM - Re: 801 Fuel Sender Question (n801bh@netzero.com)
8. 06:39 AM - Re: GSC propeller and CH701 (Graeme Bell)
9. 07:45 AM - Re: N329F Update (Tommy Walker)
10. 08:14 AM - Mixture control (Robert L. Stone)
11. 08:21 AM - Re: Running Engine - Wings Off (601XL) (Gig Giacona)
12. 08:28 AM - Re: Mixture control (Gig Giacona)
13. 08:28 AM - Re: GSC propeller and CH701 (Jari Kaija)
14. 08:54 AM - Re: Re: Mixture control (Robert L. Stone)
15. 09:03 AM - Re: Mixture control ()
16. 10:16 AM - Re: GSC propeller and CH701 (Roger Roy)
17. 10:25 AM - 701 Training Squadron? (Zed Smith)
18. 10:29 AM - Re: Re: Running Engine - Wings Off (601XL) (N5SL)
19. 11:10 AM - Re: 701 Training Squadron? (JOHN STARN)
20. 11:23 AM - Re: GSC propeller and CH701 (fred sanford)
21. 11:23 AM - (Milburn Reed)
22. 11:42 AM - Oil pressure Rotax 912 (Klaus Truemper)
23. 12:13 PM - Wing-less taxi/engine test (Zed Smith)
24. 12:20 PM - Re: No Title (Gig Giacona)
25. 12:46 PM - Re: 801 Fuel Sender Question (Tom)
26. 01:23 PM - Re: Re: 801 Fuel Sender Question (Dave Ruddiman)
27. 01:27 PM - Re: Re: No Title (Edward Moody II)
28. 02:08 PM - Re: Riveting oneself into a corner ()
29. 02:26 PM - Re: Re: GSC propeller and CH701 (Jim Hoak)
30. 02:41 PM - Off Topic - Aircraft Leaseback (Mike)
31. 03:12 PM - Re: Off Topic - Aircraft Leaseback (SunDish.com Sales)
32. 03:29 PM - Re: (Robert L. Stone)
33. 03:35 PM - Re: Re: No Title (Robert L. Stone)
34. 04:57 PM - Re: 701 Training Squadron? (John Marzulli)
35. 05:16 PM - Rough cut (Bill Naumuk)
36. 05:45 PM - Re: Rough cut (Phil Maxson)
37. 05:48 PM - Re: Rough cut (Bill Naumuk)
38. 05:50 PM - RE : Rough cut (Carlos Sa)
39. 06:24 PM - Re: Vs: GSC propeller and CH701 (Gary Gower)
40. 07:12 PM - Re: N329F Update (Ron Lendon)
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| Subject: | GSC propeller and CH701 |
Especially for builders, who has GSC's 3-blade wood propeller on your CH701
with R912 or R912S.
Could you get answer for few question:
- Diameter of your propeller 68", 72"....
- Engine type (912, 912S, 914 other...)
- Blade angle (if flying or tested or....)
- Cruising speed (if flying...)
(See attached file: rupelli.jpg)
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| Subject: | Re: 801 Fuel Sender Question |
It's most important for the gauge to read accurately near the bottom
of the scale, that's when you really need to know how much fuel you
have left. If it takes a while to move off the full mark, it's not a
big deal.
On Sep 29, 2006, at 1:51 AM, Dave Ruddiman wrote:
> I am installing the fuel gauge senders in my tanks tonight. It
> seems like I should turn the units so the float is near the front
> of the tank so that it will read full when it really is completely
> full since the tank is tapered. Any thoughts or suggestions?
> After driving down to California yesterday and touring the shop, I
> decided to order an Xtreem IO-360 from Eagle Engines. (which I did
> today). Looks like I'm really committed for sure, or at least I
> will be if my Wife finds out how much I spent.
>
> Thanks
>
> Dave in Salem
> 801
--
Bryan Martin
N61BM, CH 601 XL,
RAM Subaru, Stratus redrive.
do not archive.
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| Subject: | GSC propeller and CH701 |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Jari.Kaija@pkcgroup.com
> Could you get answer for few question:
DAMN! I mean: "Could you send answer for..."
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| Subject: | Re: N329F Update |
Congrats Jim. Keep us posted on what you find.
do not archive
Jim Fosse <jfosse1@shawneelink.net> wrote:
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Jim Fosse"
Up, Up and away. First flight of 1 hour was completed on Sep 26.
Rick
Sharpsburg, GA. USA
http://www.n701rr.com
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| Subject: | Re: N329F Update |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Al Young" <armyret@mchsi.com>
Jim- Congrats on the 1st flight. Hope all to come are safe, smooth and
without incident. Way to go!!
Al Young
601XL
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jim Fosse" <jfosse1@shawneelink.net>
Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2006 8:40 PM
Subject: Zenith-List: N329F Update
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Jim Fosse" <jfosse1@shawneelink.net>
>
> Up, Up and away. First flight of 1 hour was completed on Sep 26.
> Everything went well except for the last 5 minutes. The plane handled
> well with no surprises, aerodynamically that is. The nose seems a
> little heavy in the sense that I ran out of up trim. Will work on
> that. Had just finished a stall check and was adding power for climb
> when the engine started running rough above 4000 RPM. I have the
> Suzuki 1.6 liter engine and up to that point it had performed
> flawlessly. Thankfully I was only a couple of miles from the air
> field positioned for a straight in approach and landed without
> incident. Haven't sorted the problem out yet. Like others before me,
> that first flight of my own creation was fantastic.
>
> Jim Fosse
> CH 701, N329F
> Goreville, IL
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| Subject: | Re: N329F Update |
Congrats to you, !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! It will take weeks to get that smile
off your face too. There is a guy in central Idaho running the same powe
rplant in a 701, he might chime in with his idea on the misfire.
do not archive
Ben Haas
N801BH
www.haaspowerair.com
-- "Jim Fosse" <jfosse1@shawneelink.net> wrote:
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Jim Fosse" <jfosse1@shawneelink.net>
Up, Up and away. First flight of 1 hour was completed on Sep 26.
Everything went well except for the last 5 minutes. The plane handled
well with no surprises, aerodynamically that is. The nose seems a
little heavy in the sense that I ran out of up trim. Will work on
that. Had just finished a stall check and was adding power for climb
when the engine started running rough above 4000 RPM. I have the
Suzuki 1.6 liter engine and up to that point it had performed
flawlessly. Thankfully I was only a couple of miles from the air
field positioned for a straight in approach and landed without
incident. Haven't sorted the problem out yet. Like others before me,
that first flight of my own creation was fantastic.
Jim Fosse
CH 701, N329F
Goreville, IL
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at smile off your face too. There is a guy in central Idaho running the
same powerplant in a 701, he might chime in with his idea on the misfire
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<P>do not archive<BR><BR><BR>Ben Haas<BR>N801BH<BR>www.haaspowerair
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| Subject: | Re: 801 Fuel Sender Question |
My 801 flies and sits on the ground in a nose high attitude, If the floa
t was positioned forward it would indicate a lower fuel level then actua
l. Just my opinion......
do not archive
Ben Haas
N801BH
www.haaspowerair.com
-- "Dave Ruddiman" <pacificpainting@comcast.net> wrote:
I am installing the fuel gauge senders in my tanks tonight. It seems lik
e I should turn the units so the float is near the front of the tank so
that it will read full when it really is completely full since the tank
is tapered. Any thoughts or suggestions?After driving down to California
yesterday and touring the shop, I decided to order an Xtreem IO-360 fro
m Eagle Engines. (which I did today). Looks like I'm really committed fo
r sure, or at least I will be if my Wife finds out how much I spent. Tha
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the float was positioned forward it would indicate a lower fuel level t
hen actual. Just my opinion......</P>
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| Subject: | Re: GSC propeller and CH701 |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Graeme Bell" <graeme@coletoolcentre.com.au>
Unfortunatly I had a gsc propellor on my ch701 with a 582.
There ar ADs on these propellors and if it has ever been out in the weather
I would change it. I had
a catastrophic blade failure which also took the top of the gearbox with
the second blade.
the prop was well within the ad time less than 200 hrs.
Landed heavily in a cane paddock and took a year to rebuild and re engine
with a 912.and cost plenty .
It would have much much cheaper to throw away the gsc propellor.
I suggest a composite bladed propellor not clamped wood, wood is subject to
weather and shrinkage and expansion etc
sorry for the bad report.
Graeme
Original Message -----
From: <Jari.Kaija@pkcgroup.com>
Sent: Friday, September 29, 2006 7:04 PM
Subject: Zenith-List: GSC propeller and CH701
>
>
> Especially for builders, who has GSC's 3-blade wood propeller on your
> CH701
> with R912 or R912S.
> Could you get answer for few question:
>
>
> - Diameter of your propeller 68", 72"....
> - Engine type (912, 912S, 914 other...)
> - Blade angle (if flying or tested or....)
> - Cruising speed (if flying...)
>
> (See attached file: rupelli.jpg)
>
>
> This e-mail is intended only for the individual or entity to which it is
> addressed. The e-mail may contain information that is privileged and
> confidential. If the reader of this e-mail is not the intended recipient,
> or the employee or agent responsible for delivering the e-mail to the
> intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any distribution,
> dissemination, copying or any other use of the information is strictly
> prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the
> sender immediately by replying to the e-mail and delete the e-mail and any
> copies thereof. Thank You.
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| Subject: | Re: N329F Update |
Congratulations on the first flight Jim!
Just curious, what is your empty weight?
Thanks,
Tommy Walker in Alabama
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Members,
I would like to hear from any of you guys/gals who are running a
Jabiru 3300 engine on your aircraft. I have heard there is no
requirement for a manual mixture control and would like to know if this
is true and if so, how does the system work when changing altitude.
Bob Stone, Harker Heights, Tx
ZodiacXL w/Jabiru 3300
DO NOT ARCHIVE
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| Subject: | Re: Running Engine - Wings Off (601XL) |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Gig Giacona" <wr.giacona@cox.net>
One thing to add buddy, WE WANT VIDEO.
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W.R. "Gig" Giacona
601XL Under Construction
See my progress at www.peoamerica.net/N601WR
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=64657#64657
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| Subject: | Re: Mixture control |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Gig Giacona" <wr.giacona@cox.net>
It is correct and it is becuase the engine has a pressure compnesating carb.
rstone4(at)hot.rr.com wrote:
> Members,
> I would like to hear from any of you guys/gals who are running a Jabiru
3300 engine on your aircraft. I have heard there is no requirement for a manual
mixture control and would like to know if this is true and if so, how does
the system work when changing altitude.
>
> Bob Stone, Harker Heights, Tx
> ZodiacXL w/Jabiru 3300
> DO NOT ARCHIVE
>
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W.R. "Gig" Giacona
601XL Under Construction
See my progress at www.peoamerica.net/N601WR
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=64658#64658
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| Subject: | Re: GSC propeller and CH701 |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Jari Kaija" <jari.kaija@pp.inet.fi>
> sorry for the bad report.
This didn't sound good at all! Yes, this is a brand new one.
If this is a really true problem with this propeller, I will let
it stay on the wall as an ornament.
Any other owners?
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| Subject: | Re: Mixture control |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Robert L. Stone" <rstone4@hot.rr.com>
Gig,
Could you explain how the system works. I have never heard of a
pressure compensating carb. Does this mean the carb has a built in sensor
that works off of barometric pressure like an altimeter to provide the
correct mixture at whatever altitude one is flying?
Bob Stone
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gig Giacona" <wr.giacona@cox.net>
Sent: Friday, September 29, 2006 10:25 AM
Subject: Zenith-List: Re: Mixture control
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Gig Giacona" <wr.giacona@cox.net>
>
> It is correct and it is becuase the engine has a pressure compnesating
> carb.
>
>
> rstone4(at)hot.rr.com wrote:
>> Members,
>> I would like to hear from any of you guys/gals who are running a
>> Jabiru 3300 engine on your aircraft. I have heard there is no
>> requirement for a manual mixture control and would like to know if this
>> is true and if so, how does the system work when changing altitude.
>>
>> Bob Stone, Harker Heights, Tx
>> ZodiacXL w/Jabiru 3300
>> DO NOT ARCHIVE
>>
>
>
> --------
> W.R. "Gig" Giacona
> 601XL Under Construction
> See my progress at www.peoamerica.net/N601WR
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=64658#64658
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Mixture control |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: <dredmoody@cox.net>
The Bing carburetor on the Jabiru 3300 is a "self compensating" model which supposedly
does as good a job of adjusting mixture for chnges in altitude as most
pilots could/would do inflight with a manual mixture control. There is an ongoing
debate as to whether it really does a good enough job, whether good enough
is good enough, and whether a pilot can do it better with a manual mixture control.
For the mechanical details of how it works, email Pete Krotje at Jabiru USA. The
email address is
info@usjabiru.com
Pete is good about responding to customers and potential customers and can do a
better job of explaining how the ambient pressure change adjusts the mixture.
Coincidentally the Rotax 912S uses two Bing self compensating carbs.
Hope that helps,
Ed Moody II
PS: How's the learning progressing with the Lowrance 2000C?
---- "Robert L. Stone" <rstone4@hot.rr.com> wrote:
> Members,
> I would like to hear from any of you guys/gals who are running a Jabiru
3300 engine on your aircraft. I have heard there is no requirement for a manual
mixture control and would like to know if this is true and if so, how does
the system work when changing altitude.
>
> Bob Stone, Harker Heights, Tx
> ZodiacXL w/Jabiru 3300
> DO NOT ARCHIVE
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| Subject: | Re: GSC propeller and CH701 |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Roger Roy" <savannah174@msn.com>
5 years ago that same prop mounted on an S-10 #3 blade seperated. The The
aircraft was rounding to final alt 550 ft the fatal crash was 800 ft from
runway. FAA investigators still to this day cannot close this case, many of
us that were using this prop removed them and as you suggested became wall
mounted decorations. Having said this there are many who swear by them and
that's OK too but since it happen to one of our club members we think
differently. Cheer
RJ
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jari Kaija" <jari.kaija@pp.inet.fi>
Sent: Friday, September 29, 2006 11:26 AM
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: GSC propeller and CH701
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Jari Kaija" <jari.kaija@pp.inet.fi>
>
> > sorry for the bad report.
>
> This didn't sound good at all! Yes, this is a brand new one.
> If this is a really true problem with this propeller, I will let
> it stay on the wall as an ornament.
>
> Any other owners?
>
>
>
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| Subject: | 701 Training Squadron? |
Some may recognize the tall building as the warehouse where Green Scotchbrites
are stored.
Slow day deserves some spice.....
do not archive
Zed/701/R912/etc/etc/.....
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| Subject: | Re: Running Engine - Wings Off (601XL) |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: N5SL <nfivesl@yahoo.com>
You got it Gig. "Video Camera" is one item on my punch list.
Scott Laughlin
www.cooknwithgas.com
Do Not Archive
----- Original Message ----
From: Gig Giacona <wr.giacona@cox.net>
Sent: Friday, September 29, 2006 10:20:49 AM
Subject: Zenith-List: Re: Running Engine - Wings Off (601XL)
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Gig Giacona" <wr.giacona@cox.net>
One thing to add buddy, WE WANT VIDEO.
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| Subject: | Re: 701 Training Squadron? |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "JOHN STARN" <jhstarn@verizon.net>
Been there, done that...Randolph AFB, San Antonio Texas. KABONG
---- Original Message -----
From: "Zed Smith" <zsmith3rd@earthlink.net>
Sent: Friday, September 29, 2006 10:24 AM
Subject: Zenith-List: 701 Training Squadron?
>
> Some may recognize the tall building as the warehouse where Green
> Scotchbrites are stored.
>
> Slow day deserves some spice.....
>
> do not archive
>
> Zed/701/R912/etc/etc/.....
>
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| Subject: | Re: GSC propeller and CH701 |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: fred sanford <sonar1@cox.net>
There are warnings not to let the GSC sit out in the sun or fly it in
the rain. I sewed up a prop cover from some "sumbrella" fabric, and have
noticed no degradation in 1.5 years......
Fred Sanford N9701 912ul 70 hours
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I was wondering the same thing about the jabiru 2200. This person
attached his 701 to a park bench and let her rip. Could one taxi with
brakes and rudder and no wings??? I have a small strip I could taxi on
---might frighten the cows--- Actually they probably would come running.
I made sure my computer down sized the picture. I already got trashed
once in hi school.
The message is ready to be sent with the following file or link
attachments:
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| Subject: | Oil pressure Rotax 912 |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Klaus Truemper <klaus@utdallas.edu>
Hi,
I am trying to get information about the wear of the oil pump of the
Rotax 912
engine. If you have at least 500 hrs on the engine, would you mind telling:
total hrs of engine:
oil pressure (psi) with
engine cold:
hot:
Oil type (e.g. 10W40):
I would like to compare that with my engine, which after about 1000 hrs
shows
for cold engine an oil pressure of 36 psi and for hot engine 32 psi.
The engine shows no other sign of wear. In particular, compression
and performance are unchanged.
Thanks for helping with this.
Best wishes,
Klaus Truemper
--
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Professor Emeritus of Computer Science
University of Texas at Dallas
Erik Jonsson School of Engineering and
Computer Science EC31
P.O. Box 830688
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(972) 883-2712
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www.utdallas.edu/~klaus
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| Subject: | Wing-less taxi/engine test |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Zed Smith <zsmith3rd@earthlink.net>
Providing you have brakes that work, taxiing without wings is no problem....all
you really have is an engine test stand on wheels which is also equipped with
a nice seat.
It helps to have the windshield in place if you plan to ride in it.
Otherwise, tie the main gear to something that won't move and run the engine.
Be aware that prop blast tends to fill the 701 fuselage if no windshield exists.
One fellow also put a spring scale in line with his rope and determined the "thrust".
Some may mention oil temperature......don't worry. Just stop testing if it begins
to get too hot; same thing you'd do if it got too hot in flight.
Enjoy.
Regards to all,
Zed/701/R912/95+%/etc/do not archive
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Gig Giacona" <wr.giacona@cox.net>
Downsizing is one thing but you shrunk it down to pretty much unviewable size.
--------
W.R. "Gig" Giacona
601XL Under Construction
See my progress at www.peoamerica.net/N601WR
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| Subject: | Re: 801 Fuel Sender Question |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Tom" <tomp@cogeco.ca>
I was going to point mine 90 degrees from the edge and at the time I was installing
mine I'm pretty sure there was some backup to that thought but I can' t remember,
I do agree with Ben as to not put it pointing to the front and the further
back you aim it will keep it on full longer than the true reading. You can
also nit pick trying to figure out all the pro's and con's of all these senerio's
like we all have done throughout the project or just point the thing in
the middle and forget about it!
--------
Tom CH801
http://tompizza.webhop.net
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| Subject: | Re: 801 Fuel Sender Question |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Dave Ruddiman" <pacificpainting@comcast.net>
Hi Tom,
I called ZAC today to ask them. Not sure who I talked to, but since he had
an accent I figured it was someone important. He said to just mount it
spanwise, which is what I thought it should be also, but I'm always open to
suggestions and someone else's experience.
Dave in Salem
801
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tom" <tomp@cogeco.ca>
Sent: Friday, September 29, 2006 12:46 PM
Subject: Zenith-List: Re: 801 Fuel Sender Question
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Tom" <tomp@cogeco.ca>
>
> I was going to point mine 90 degrees from the edge and at the time I was
> installing mine I'm pretty sure there was some backup to that thought but
> I can' t remember, I do agree with Ben as to not put it pointing to the
> front and the further back you aim it will keep it on full longer than the
> true reading. You can also nit pick trying to figure out all the pro's and
> con's of all these senerio's like we all have done throughout the project
> or just point the thing in the middle and forget about it!
>
> --------
> Tom CH801
> http://tompizza.webhop.net
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=64701#64701
>
>
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Edward Moody II" <dredmoody@cox.net>
Nonsense Gig. It looked like a perfectly normal postage stamp to me.
Ed
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> --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Gig Giacona" <wr.giacona@cox.net>
>
> Downsizing is one thing but you shrunk it down to pretty much unviewable
> size.
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| Subject: | Re: Riveting oneself into a corner |
Dunno. Didn't look. Probably his one picture is worth my thousand words.
Paul Rodriguez
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----- Original Message -----
From: Robin Bellach<mailto:601zv@ritternet.com>
To: zenith-list@matronics.com<mailto:zenith-list@matronics.com>
Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2006 4:04 PM
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Riveting oneself into a corner
Isn't that a description of what Dino so nicely drew, or am I missing
something?
Do not archive.
----- Original Message -----
From: paulrod36@msn.com<mailto:paulrod36@msn.com>
To: zenith-list@matronics.com<mailto:zenith-list@matronics.com>
Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2006 10:49 AM
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Riveting oneself into a corner
Hey guys, there's an easier way than having to work up a nosepiece
to fit your job. Several years ago somebody on this list came up with
an easy way: As I recall, it went like this: 1: Using the appropriate
size bit, drill a hole lengthwise into a chunk of bolt or round bar. 2:
Cut the bolt or bar to an appropriate length, on a slant that will give
you room for the riveter. Cup the slanted end as with the nosepiece. 3:
Slip the mandrel through your "new nosepiece", and into the riveter,
putting a slight bend in the mandrel. You then get a pull perpendicular
to the work, with your riveter on a slant. I had several rivets that I
needed to do this, and it worked.
Paul Rodriguez
601XL/Corvair
Still on the canopy
----- Original Message -----
From: Tommy Walker<mailto:twalker@cableone.net>
To: zenith-list@matronics.com<mailto:zenith-list@matronics.com>
Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2006 7:00 AM
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Riveting oneself into a corner
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "dbortol"
<dbortol@gmail.com<mailto:dbortol@gmail.com>>
I just felt like drawing something. See the attached photo
(30KB).
Dino Bortolin
La Salle, Ontario
XL/Corvair
Very neat Dino. I wish I had the equipment to turn that drawing
into a steel nose piece. My file and hand drill made one, but not
anything that looked as good as your drawing.
Tommy Walker in Alabama
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| Subject: | Re: GSC propeller and CH701 |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Jim Hoak" <planejim@bellsouth.net>
Listers,
A few additional comments about GSC props. I have the fiberglass inlaid
leading edges on my 3 blade GSC mounted on a Rotax 912UL (80 HP). I had been
warned not to fly it in the rain back when I started operating the prop (
nearly 10 years now). Got caught in a couple minor showers during the first
500 hours. I kept the airplane under a roof, with the blades covered with
some covers I got from the Kitfox folks. But the afternoon sun hit the
airplane every afternoon. I remember receiving info saying that GSC wanted
the prop back at their facility at 500 hours or 5 years. I stretched it out
to 9 years and 500 hours. The hub looked fine but the blades needed
refinished at least thats what I thought. When I removed the prop and
disassembled it for shipping I found the bolts that pass though the wood
blades at the inboard end were in sad shape but not ready to fail.
When the prop arrived at GSC, Rick called me and recommended new blades. He
said it wouldn't be economically viable to to redo the blades. I went with
that when he discounted the new blades in price. I've since reinstalled the
prop but plan to remove it at 500 hours (1000 A/C hours) at least to check
those bolts. The airplane is now in a hangar and I believe the blades will
hold up much better.
One other thing I discovered; I torqued the attach bolts originally in warm
weather. When it turned cold, I found a couple of the had loosened. I do a
regular torque check to prevent this from recurring.
To conclude, since the GSC prop came with the kit, I used it. It runs
smooth, doesn't weigh much and with care, should do the job. I'm sure there
are other great choices out there. If I were building from scratch or didn't
get the FWF Kit from ZAC I would look at several choices.
Jim Hoak 601HD - Rotax 912 UL - 531 hours
----- Original Message -----
From: "fred sanford" <sonar1@cox.net>
Sent: Friday, September 29, 2006 2:22 PM
Subject: [Norton AntiSpam] Zenith-List: Re: GSC propeller and CH701
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: fred sanford <sonar1@cox.net>
>
> There are warnings not to let the GSC sit out in the sun or fly it in the
> rain. I sewed up a prop cover from some "sumbrella" fabric, and have
> noticed no degradation in 1.5 years......
>
> Fred Sanford N9701 912ul 70 hours
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Off Topic - Aircraft Leaseback |
Sorry for the off topic question, but I figured some of you might be able to direct
me on this issue. I'm considering buying a plane and leasing it back to a
flight school, and want to know (1) if anyone has ever been through this process
before, and if so, can it be profitable or at least a break-even, or (2) is
there some other aviation discussion forum where this question would be better
posted? I'm thinking about maybe a C-172 or similar, where I can have a 4-seater
at my disposal when I need it, yet have it rented when I'm not using it
(which would be most of the time). Please reply off list to rsq2424@yahoo.com.
Thanks very much,
Mike Fortunato
601XL
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| Subject: | Re: Off Topic - Aircraft Leaseback |
WTHH????????????
Mike <rsq2424@yahoo.com> wrote: Sorry for the off topic question, but I figured
some of you might be able to direct me on this issue. I'm considering buying
a plane and leasing it back to a flight school, and want to know (1) if anyone
has ever been through this process before, and if so, can it be profitable or
at least a break-even, or (2) is there some other aviation discussion forum
where this question would be better posted? I'm thinking about maybe a C-172 or
similar, where I can have a 4-seater at my disposal when I need it, yet have
it rented when I'm not using it (which would be most of the time). Please reply
off list to rsq2424@yahoo.com.
Thanks very much,
Mike Fortunato
601XL
do not archive
Thank you for choosing SunDish.com
4316 Markham Street
Annandale VA 22003
Email: sales@sundish.com
Phone: 1-866-868-1688 11AM-6:30PM EST
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| Subject: | Re: Zenith-List: |
Milburn,
Just don't leave your airplane out in the pasture with the cowling
off. At one time I had a Buckeye Dream Machine flying parachute and
broke one of the fiberglass axels when I landed to hard. A friend of
mine and I went to look for a crow bar or something like one to help pry
the cart onto the trailer. While we were gone the cows came over and
started chewing up the wiring. I ended up replacing the axel and also
all of the wiring.
Bob Stone, Harker Heights, Tx
ZodiacXL DO NOT ARCHIVE
----- Original Message -----
From: Milburn Reed
To: zenith-list@matronics.com
Sent: Friday, September 29, 2006 1:22 PM
Subject: Zenith-List:
I was wondering the same thing about the jabiru 2200. This person
attached his 701 to a park bench and let her rip. Could one taxi with
brakes and rudder and no wings??? I have a small strip I could taxi on
---might frighten the cows--- Actually they probably would come running.
I made sure my computer down sized the picture. I already got trashed
once in hi school.
The message is ready to be sent with the following file or link
attachments:
900-0022_IMG.jpg
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Robert L. Stone" <rstone4@hot.rr.com>
That's just about what I thought when I saw that dinky little picture
(Postage stamp) I got my magnifying glass and lo and behold there is an
airplane in that picture. I have High speed internet service called "Road
Runner" so pictures of any size are OK with me but I do realize that fast
servers are not available to some members so pictures should be reduced but
that one was way too small.
Bob Stone, Harker Heights, Tx
----- Original Message -----
From: "Edward Moody II" <dredmoody@cox.net>
Sent: Friday, September 29, 2006 3:26 PM
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Re: No Title
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Edward Moody II" <dredmoody@cox.net>
>
> Nonsense Gig. It looked like a perfectly normal postage stamp to me.
>
> Ed
>
> Do Not Archive
>
>> --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Gig Giacona" <wr.giacona@cox.net>
>>
>> Downsizing is one thing but you shrunk it down to pretty much unviewable
>> size.
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: 701 Training Squadron? |
Yeah, but in this case that spice is Zinc Chromate flavored:
http://www.snopes.com/photos/military/randolph.asp
On 9/29/06, Zed Smith <zsmith3rd@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
>
> Some may recognize the tall building as the warehouse where Green
> Scotchbrites are stored.
>
> Slow day deserves some spice.....
>
> do not archive
>
> Zed/701/R912/etc/etc/.....
>
>
--
John Marzulli
http://701Builder.blogspot.com/
"Flying a plane is no different than riding a bicycle... it's just a lot
harder to put baseball cards in the spokes.
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All-
Having a heck of a time making the first polish cut through the crud
on my skins.
I have G6, C, and S Nuvite, but they don't cut it (Pun intended).
I'm not worried about cleaning things up afterwards, but can't find a
rough enough grit for the first pass.
I tried automotive polishing compound (Dupont) and it's about the
same as Nuvite C. Carlos, I know you do everything with Mother's- is it
"Rough enough" for a first pass?
I'm going to try Dupont automotive rubbing compound tomorrow if no
one has a better suggestion.
Bill Naumuk
HDS Fuselage
Townville, Pa
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You could try wet sanding with 1000 grit and 1500 grit sandpaper before goi
ng to Nuvite C and S. Try it on a test piece. It made my polishing go muc
h quicker.Phil Maxson601XL/CorvairNorthwest New Jersey
From: naumuk@alltel.netSubject: Zenith-List: Rough cut
All-
Having a heck of a time making the first polish cut through the crud on
my skins.
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Good idea.
Bill Naumuk
HDS Fuselage
Townville, Pa
----- Original Message -----
From: Phil Maxson
To: Bill Naumuk
Sent: Friday, September 29, 2006 8:44 PM
Subject: RE: Zenith-List: Rough cut
You could try wet sanding with 1000 grit and 1500 grit sandpaper
before going to Nuvite C and S. Try it on a test piece. It made my
polishing go much quicker.
Phil Maxson
601XL/Corvair
Northwest New Jersey
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Subject: Zenith-List: Rough cut
All-
Having a heck of a time making the first polish cut through the
crud on my skins.
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: Carlos Sa <carlosfsa@yahoo.com>
Hello, Bill
I find that Mothers is very quick for the "first cut". It takes a while longer
to get to the
final product.
You might want to give it a shot, the small pot sells for ~CDN$8.00.
Good luck
Carlos
CH601-HD
Montreal, Canada
--- Bill Naumuk <naumuk@alltel.net> a crit :
> All-
> Having a heck of a time making the first polish cut through the crud on my
skins.
> I have G6, C, and S Nuvite, but they don't cut it (Pun intended). I'm not
worried about
> cleaning things up afterwards, but can't find a rough enough grit for the first
pass.
> I tried automotive polishing compound (Dupont) and it's about the same as
Nuvite C. Carlos,
> I know you do everything with Mother's- is it "Rough enough" for a first pass?
> I'm going to try Dupont automotive rubbing compound tomorrow if no one has
a better
> suggestion.
> Bill Naumuk
> HDS Fuselage
> Townville, Pa
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| Subject: | Re: GSC propeller and CH701 |
No big deal Jari. This great list members have become experts in understanding
the "International Translated English" from all of us... :-)
Hope you get the info and pass it to all of us.
Saludos
Gary Gower
Do not archive.
Jari.Kaija@pkcgroup.com wrote: --> Zenith-List message posted by: Jari.Kaija@pkcgroup.com
> Could you get answer for few question:
DAMN! I mean: "Could you send answer for..."
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| Subject: | Re: N329F Update |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Ron Lendon" <rlendon@comcast.net>
Congratulations on your first filght. Those are memorys that never end.
--------
Ron Lendon, Clinton Township, MI
Corvair Zodiac XL, ScrapBuilder ;-)
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