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1. 04:00 AM - Re: "Stretched" aluminum ()
2. 06:53 AM - Seat belt anchor (george.mueller@aurora.org)
3. 09:19 AM - Re: Re: Weight on the Little wing/Nose gear bungees (JAPhillipsGA@aol.com)
4. 09:37 AM - Re: Seat belt anchor (JAPhillipsGA@aol.com)
5. 09:52 AM - Re: Seat belt anchor, 701 (John Bolding)
6. 09:54 AM - ICOM A200 wiring (was Seat belt anchor) (Craig Payne)
7. 11:09 AM - Re: ICOM A200 wiring (was Seat belt anchor) (N5SL)
8. 11:48 AM - Re: ICOM A200 wiring (was Seat belt anchor) (Craig Payne)
9. 12:23 PM - Re: ICOM A200 wiring (was Seat belt anchor) (Craig Moore)
10. 01:08 PM - Re: ICOM A200 wiring (was Seat belt anchor) (N5SL)
11. 04:20 PM - Re: Re: Nose gear bungees (Jim Hoak)
12. 04:59 PM - Re: Re: run-on engine? (Jim Hoak)
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| Subject: | Re: "Stretched" aluminum |
The local hardware sells Felt weather striping that is gray in color
about 5/8 " wide that was perfect to run along the top flange of the
inside cowl flashings. I no longer see the stretch marks.
----- Original Message -----
From: Jaybannist@cs.com
To: zenith-list@matronics.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2006 9:32 PM
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: "Stretched" aluminum
Ron, Larry McFarland wisely suggested I start over, hammering only the
bottom side of the top flange, and I was going to do that. Then I
realized #1 that I had already drilled the inside flashings to the
canopy frame. I don't know how I could manage to hit those holes with a
new flashing; and #2 I studied the back side of the top flange and it
was nearly as ugly as the top! I really had to pound those flanges to
get the curve I needed. I have now coated the mangled flanges with
JBWeld and sanded them down to an acceptible appearance. There really
must be a better way!
Jay in Dallas
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| Subject: | Seat belt anchor |
If the problem with the tunnel seat belt anchor is that it is pulling out,
would bolts work better than rivets to attach the anchor to the tunnel? My
current plan is to use a steel anchor, possibly bolted to the tunnel with
a doubler (larger than the zenith mod), and with the doubler being larger,
it is riveted to the tunnel in addition to being bolted to the anchor.
This would spread loads over a greater area on the tunnel and I am
thinking the bolts would be less likely to pull out. What say ye, list?
The other day I bought a cheap lawn tractor battery and hooked it up to my
electrical system. I flipped the battery master expecting smoke, and
heard my turn coordinator spool up. I flipped the strobe light switch,
and that worked. I turned on the ICOM A200 expecting smoke for sure, and
tuned in Milwaukee approach control. I heard transmissions coming in loud
and clear. Even though the 701 will be vfr day only, I hooked up the
lights to the gauges and put them on a dimmer, and that worked. I was
quite please, as you builders know, it is not that common for that many
things to go right in a row.
By the way, if any of you are going to install the ICOM A200 (which in my
opinion is about the best deal in a panel mounted radio out there), if you
want to use the internal intercom and the push to talk features, you need
to request a more detailed wiring diagram from ICOM technical support. The
instructions that come with the radio are not detailed enough on how to
wire these features. The additional instructions also tell you where to
get the right PTT switch.
George
N701GM Reserved
Wiring Panel
Milwaukee
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| Subject: | Re: Weight on the Little wing/Nose gear bungees |
Jerry, I'll put some photos on the webb this weekend, Bill
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| Subject: | Re: Seat belt anchor |
George, when your plane first lights up for the first time to me it was like
bringing Frankenstein ALIVE. After that the beast had a personality and was a
living force. Only increased when the engine coughs to life and the purring
power of combustion and movement engenders living and supernatural energy. When
she flies and lifts you up and around the ground you feel like you now have a
partner in defying the natural powers of gravity. Sounds all boogie woogie
voodoo right ? Course maybe not; Best to you and congratulations on this big
step.
Bill of Georgia
601XL-3300 w/DC
N505WP 90 hours
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| Subject: | Re: Seat belt anchor, 701 |
George,
It is POSSIBLE that we are dealing with more than one failure mode here
and I don't wish to get into a pissing contest with anyone over a well
designed airplane that has stood the test of time. What really has blown
my skirt up over these failures is the fact that I HAD a crash in an
RV3, the restraint system did NOT "give" (as has been suggested by some
that this system is designed to do, BS I say) and aside from some world
class bruises from the seat belts, I was uninjured. I DIDN'T hit the
panel. I demand the same thing from this airplane.
Everything can be improved and this area has shown it can stand some.
MY belief is the tunnel is NOT the place to bet your life,or your
daughter's pretty face. It's a piece of 025 alum that does have some
shape to it making it more suitable BUT it does not match the
"robustness" (is that a word?) that the gear tunnel has and THAT part is
VERY close so that's what I'm using.
To answer your question, a larger doubler and bolts improves the
situation but to what degree is unknown. Worst case I guess is 2 guys
that are each over 200#, that will put a LOT of load on the tunnel and
how IT is attached.
I have a test fixture left over from an amphib design project I did a
long time ago that I'm rigging up to do some pull tests on a few pieces
of 025 in the shape of the tunnel. In the pictures I post showing the
results I'll have some various colors of Scotchbrite in the background
so everybody feels included and I remain politically correct.
LOW&SLOW John Bolding
If the problem with the tunnel seat belt anchor is that it is pulling
out, would bolts work better than rivets to attach the anchor to the
tunnel? My current plan is to use a steel anchor, possibly bolted to
the tunnel with a doubler (larger than the zenith mod), and with the
doubler being larger, it is riveted to the tunnel in addition to being
bolted to the anchor. This would spread loads over a greater area on
the tunnel and I am thinking the bolts would be less likely to pull out.
What say ye, list?
George
N701GM Reserved
Wiring Panel
Milwaukee
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| Subject: | ICOM A200 wiring (was Seat belt anchor) |
Is the extra ICOM wiring info in electronic form? Could you post it
somewhere?
-- Craig
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| Subject: | Re: ICOM A200 wiring (was Seat belt anchor) |
It's right here:=0A=0Ahttp://www.icomamerica.com/support/manuals/ic-a200.pd
f=0A=0AScott Laughlin=0Ahttp://www.cooknwithgas.com/Videos.html=0A=0A-----
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| Subject: | ICOM A200 wiring (was Seat belt anchor) |
Thanks to all who have responded. I have all the "standard" stuff. I wanted
to see what the "extra" info George alluded to looked like.
You can find the 8 page installation manual here:
www.rv8.ch/files/Icom%20IC-A200%20Installation%20Instructions.pdf
-- Craig
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| Subject: | Re: ICOM A200 wiring (was Seat belt anchor) |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Craig Moore <moorecomp@yahoo.com>
Scott,
That is the link to the user manual. Unfortunatly, it
does not have the additional wiring info needed. Try
here
http://www.icom.net.au/2000_web/services/faq/A200%20wiring.pdf
Best regards,
Craig Moore A&P
701 builder wannabe
--- N5SL <nfivesl@yahoo.com> wrote:
> It's right here:
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http://www.icomamerica.com/support/manuals/ic-a200.pdf
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> Scott Laughlin
> http://www.cooknwithgas.com/Videos.html
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Craig Payne <craig@craigandjean.com>
> To: zenith-list@matronics.com
> Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2006 11:53:48 AM
> Subject: Zenith-List: ICOM A200 wiring (was Seat
> belt anchor)
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> Is the extra ICOM wiring info in electronic form?
> Could
> you post it s=======
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| Subject: | Re: ICOM A200 wiring (was Seat belt anchor) |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: N5SL <nfivesl@yahoo.com>
Craig:
You are right. I installed this radio in my airplane and it works very well .
Dr. Ed will get some use from this link you posted as he is cosidering the A200
also.
I used a PS engineering intercom and it works very well with the A200. I thought
the A200 intercom function was very limited and I didn't really ever figure
out how to hook it up.
Scott Laughlin
www.cooknwithgas.com
----- Original Message ----
From: Craig Moore <moorecomp@yahoo.com>
Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2006 2:23:03 PM
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: ICOM A200 wiring (was Seat belt anchor)
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Craig Moore <moorecomp@yahoo.com>
Scott,
That is the link to the user manual. Unfortunatly, it
does not have the additional wiring info needed. Try
here
http://www.icom.net.au/2000_web/services/faq/A200%20wiring.pdf
Best regards,
Craig Moore A&P
701 builder wannabe
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| Subject: | Re: Nose gear bungees |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Jim Hoak" <planejim@bellsouth.net>
Mike,
I agree that tne nose gear bungee wears because of steering and the small
diameter of the tubes over which the bungee is stretched. I don't believe
the heat of the engine is the problem.
Jim Hoak
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike Fothergill" <mfothergill@sympatico.ca>
Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2006 6:41 PM
Subject: [Norton AntiSpam] Re: Zenith-List: Nose gear bungees
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: Mike Fothergill
> <mfothergill@sympatico.ca>
>
> Hi;
> The nose gear is subject to wear due to rotation for steering, both in the
> air and on the ground. It is also bounced more. Make sure that you smooth
> out the welds where the bungee passes around the 3/4" tubes.
> Mike
> UHS Spinners
>
> George Swinford wrote:
>> Could the deterioration of the nose gear bungees be related to heat under
>> the cowl? Particularly in installations where the muffler is close to
>> the bottom of the bungee? Anyone try to shield the bungee from radiated
>> heat?
>> George
>> Do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: run-on engine? |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Jim Hoak" <planejim@bellsouth.net>
Peter,
I ran into this same problem a while back. I have an item on my Annual
Condition Check List to remove the bolt. clean all the wire terminals at
that location every year. No continuing problems.
I did have a later problem where the engine would not shut down. After much
trouble shooting, it was decided that the problem was an OPEN in the ground
wire inside one of the very expensive Ignition Units. Kerry at Lockwood
Aviation suggested breaking into one of the hot leads to the faulty ignition
unit and run it through a switch in the cockpit. It worked great and
continues to do so. Cheaper than buying one of those expensive Ign units.
Jim Hoak
----- Original Message -----
From: "Peter Chapman" <pchapman@ionsys.com>
Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2006 11:57 PM
Subject: [Norton AntiSpam] Re: Zenith-List: run-on engine?
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: Peter Chapman <pchapman@ionsys.com>
>
> In a Sept 20 posting I asked about a problem with a run-on engine, on a
> Rotax 912 UL.
>
> As we had used good fuel, the plugs were showing the right colours, and
> the problem continued during cooler fall weather, we started to suspect
> the ignition system grounding more. We had tried the suggestion of using
> the choke when about to cut the engine, but it wasn't enough to stop the
> sputtering run-on.
>
> The problem was solved by tightening a bolt on the engine, that connects
> an ignition electronics ground wire to the engine (actually to one intake
> manifold I think). The bolt wasn't obviously loose, or loose to the
> touch -- the bolt only tightened up an eighth of a turn or less. This
> minor change was clearly the solution, as the engine was run a couple
> times shortly before and shortly after. The run-on disappeared completely.
>
>
> Peter Chapman
> Toronto, ON 601 HDS / 912 / C-GZDC
>
>
>
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