---------------------------------------------------------- Zenith-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Thu 11/09/06: 7 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 04:00 AM - Re: Re: Large format printer referral??? (Debo Cox) 2. 04:01 AM - Oops.. (Debo Cox) 3. 05:55 AM - Re: automatic request for contirbutions (john butterfield) 4. 06:25 AM - Re: Bending fuselage bows (David Barth) 5. 12:29 PM - simulator time auction - OFF TOPIC (David Barth) 6. 04:39 PM - Tool finds (Bill Naumuk) 7. 07:21 PM - Zodiac Crash Discussion on AOPA forums (Michael Valentine) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 04:00:56 AM PST US From: Debo Cox Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Re: Large format printer referral??? Hey Ron! Thanks for the info. I've plotted out everything else, I was just thinking that I'd give the CAD layout option a chance. As it turns out, an architect here in NC is going to plot and send me a set of the rib templates. Actually I'm still working on my left spar, but thinking ahead to making those rear ribs. I've already made my nose rib blocks and cut out the blanks - just not formed them. Hope your build id going well. I haven't checked your kitlog site in a week or so, but I imagine your spars are done. Very cool. Thanks again for the info. Debo Ron Lendon wrote: Debo, I just tabulated the time it took me to make all the forms fot the entire plane. In 51 hours, I layed out, cut, ground, radiused and poly sealed all the forms. Just thought you might want to know. It is pretty easy. -------- Ron Lendon, Clinton Township, MI Corvair Zodiac XL, ScrapBuilder ;-) http://www.mykitlog.com/rlendon Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=73217#73217 --------------------------------- Sponsored Link For just $24.99/mo., Vonage offers unlimited local and long- distance calling. Sign up now. ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 04:01:18 AM PST US From: Debo Cox Subject: Zenith-List: Oops.. Sorry list. That was a personal message - not intended for the list. Debo do not archive --------------------------------- Sponsored Link Try Netflix today! With plans starting at only $5.99 a month what are you waiting for? ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 05:55:25 AM PST US From: john butterfield Subject: Zenith-List: Re: automatic request for contirbutions Matt i also made a contribution the last couple of years by check. i got the notice. lately, i have been bounced from the list and have to re subscribe. i expect this will also generate your automatice response john butterfield 601xl \ torrance Cheap talk? ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 06:25:47 AM PST US From: David Barth Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Bending fuselage bows For all those too averse people out there, I didn't use anything fancy. After watching a video on making tube and fabric planes and bending the chromoly over a garbage can, I plotted the hoop on the worktable and then (leaving the tube overly long so you have lots of leverage) I simply bent it around a 45 gallon drum covered with a blanket. The drum was vertical so I just pulled on the areas of the tube that I was bending at the time using my body to stop the barrel from toppling over. You get the picture. Stop after each iteration and compare to the drawing. Bend from one end and work your way around or you may find you have to unbend some sections. Guess you can figure out how I learned about that! In the end you end up with a nice hoop after cutting off the ends. Oh and pulling this way keeps all the bends in the same plane (yes I know they are all in the XL) but the hoop pays flat on the able afterward. Have fun and experiment with this. David PS I never did get a single kink. Use something to bend around with only a slightly smaller radius than your finished piece and you can't miss. --- Craig Payne wrote: > > > I need to scratch-form 6B21-2, one of the 3/4 inch > tubes that supports the > top skin over the luggage area. All I know is that I > order the tubing with > extra length, cut my form-block and wrap the tubing > around it. Anyone have > more details steps or tips? It seems to me that if I > just wrap the tube > around the form there will be substantial > spring-back. Do I just take the > bow off the form, pull it tighter and check it on > the form until it > conforms? > > -- Craig > > > > Click on > about > provided > www.buildersbooks.com > Admin. > > browse > Subscriptions page, > FAQ, > http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Zenith-List > > > > > David Barth 601 XL Plansbuilder 15% done? Working on Wings www.ch601.org Want to start your own business? http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/r-index ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 12:29:39 PM PST US From: David Barth Subject: Zenith-List: simulator time auction - OFF TOPIC Hi All. A friend sent me an incredible offer I thought I would pass on to everyone here - at least those who could get to Toronto to take advantage of this. This simulator time is up for silent auction to raise money for a school. Thank you for your forebearance. Three-hour simulator session for 2 on Air Canada Airbus 320....estimated value $2000 This a once in a lifetime opportunity not available to the public. Donated by Halton Waldorf school parent who is an Air Canada pilot! Call Trish Scott 519-822-3435 or 519-820-1870 (cell) with your bid. Halton Waldorf School Mistletoe Market Silent Auction Friday Nov 17, Burlington Arts Centre 5-10 pm DO NOT ARCHIVE David Barth 601 XL Plansbuilder 15% done? Working on Wings www.ch601.org http://new.mail.yahoo.com ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 04:39:07 PM PST US From: "Bill Naumuk" Subject: Zenith-List: Tool finds All- 1. Polishers- get your butts down to HF ASAP. Rotary polishers for $18.95 and replacement bonnets for $1.99! 2. See through, walk through door. $94.95 from McMaster/Carr including hardware for the size I needed, 45 minute installation. Bill Naumuk HDS Fuselage Townville, Pa ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 07:21:44 PM PST US From: "Michael Valentine" Subject: Zenith-List: Zodiac Crash Discussion on AOPA forums Quite a bit of misinformation going here, I imagine. I am not too familiar with the AMD version, but obviously most of these folks are on a different wavelength than those doing Zenith models as kit/plan built experimentals. http://forums.aopa.org/showthread.php?t=17829 Michael in NH do not archive