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1. 03:01 AM - Building your Zenith CH701 - Rear Fuselage video (Rick R)
2. 04:19 AM - Video Cameras?? (JG)
3. 04:33 AM - Re: 601XL fuel vents (Trainnut01@aol.com)
4. 05:38 AM - Re: 601XL fuel vents (Wade Jones)
5. 05:41 AM - Re: Re: 601XL fuel vents (Wade Jones)
6. 06:54 AM - Re: control cable question (deglass1)
7. 07:05 AM - Re: 601XL fuel vents (LarryMcFarland)
8. 07:44 AM - Re: control cable question (Gig Giacona)
9. 08:06 AM - Re: Re: 601XL fuel vents (Carlos Sa)
10. 08:06 AM - Re: Video Cameras?? (billmileski)
11. 08:15 AM - Re: Re: control cable question (David Downey)
12. 08:37 AM - Labels and More (Tommy Walker)
13. 08:52 AM - Re: Labels and More (billbutlergps@aim.com)
14. 09:21 AM - Re: Re: control cable question (Josh Olson)
15. 09:26 AM - Re: Labels and More (Craig Payne)
16. 09:29 AM - Re: 601XL fuel vents (Wade Jones)
17. 09:34 AM - Re: Video Cameras?? (Craig Payne)
18. 09:38 AM - Re: Re: control cable question and Elevator sensitivity (T. Graziano)
19. 09:41 AM - Re: Re: 601XL fuel vents (Wade Jones)
20. 09:41 AM - Re:Labels and more (MaxNr@aol.com)
21. 09:55 AM - Re: Labels and More ()
22. 10:43 AM - Re: Video Cameras?? (Ron Culver)
23. 11:02 AM - Re: Video Cameras?? (Ron Culver)
24. 12:23 PM - corvair motor mount (Russell J.)
25. 12:30 PM - Re: Re: Video Cameras?? (Hugh Roberts)
26. 12:59 PM - Re: Video Cameras?? (JG)
27. 01:03 PM - Re: Re: Inspection plate fasteners (Peter Franke)
28. 01:04 PM - Re: Video Cameras?? (george may)
29. 01:07 PM - Re: corvair motor mount (LarryMcFarland)
30. 01:19 PM - Re: corvair motor mount (Craig Payne)
31. 01:48 PM - Re: Video Cameras?? (Ron Culver)
32. 01:52 PM - Re: Video Cameras?? (Ron Culver)
33. 02:35 PM - Re: Video Cameras?? (Tim Juhl)
34. 03:07 PM - Re: Re: Video Cameras?? (JG)
35. 03:19 PM - Re: Video Cameras?? (Tim Juhl)
36. 04:00 PM - Building flaperons (Neitzel)
37. 04:00 PM - Re: Zenith-List Digest: Removing 701 Slats, etc. (John M. Goodings)
38. 04:37 PM - Re: Labels and More (JAPhillipsGA@aol.com)
39. 09:00 PM - Re: Labels and More (Les Goldner)
40. 10:12 PM - Re: 601XL fuel vents (Ron Lendon)
41. 10:31 PM - Aileron end rod washers (Chris sinfield)
42. 11:49 PM - Re: Aileron end rod washers (Bryan Martin)
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| Subject: | Building your Zenith CH701 - Rear Fuselage video |
I agree with Robert 100%. Thumbs up to Jon and his crack videography staff!
A must have for a 701 builder!
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Robert Schoenberger <hrs1@frontiernet.net> wrote:
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List . . . although I'm well along toward completion of my 701 rear
fuselage, I bought Jon Croke's latest DVD (HomebuiltHELP.com), "Building
your Zenith CH701 - Rear Fuselage" to check out if I've missed
anything. All I can say, this is a superior instruction video, and
anyone contemplating building a 701 should absolutely have this
important aid. I wish I had had it at the start as it would have saved
many hours (20 or 30 at least) of construction time and frustration with
interpreting the plans. The section about what not to rivet because of
future mating of the forward section was particularly helpful. Buy it -
you won't be sorry. Robert Schoenberger 701
Rick
Sharpsburg, GA. USA
http://www.n701rr.com
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Gday,
Does anyone have experience with digital video cameras that may
help.....
I want to video take-offs and landings, then analyse frame by frame to
determine angle of attack and speed. The older analog ones didn't have
enough clarity in single frames, but I understand the digital ones are
much better that way.....
Also want to use it for tuft-testing, and that means being able to hook
up to a remote camera. It seems that most of the lower end DV cameras
don't have such an input. Does anyone know of one that is capable in
this regard??
There are still some questions posed on the list regarding Slats v/s
VGs that I need to answer, but I'll leave all that until after all the
distractions of this holiday season......
Wishing everyone a Merry Christmas,
and fair skies and tailwinds always.....
JG
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| Subject: | Re: 601XL fuel vents |
Wade
I modified a pair of long range tanks from ZAC. Gave me a chance to look
inside. The vent tube is not attached at the top at all. It is beveled on the
top end and is positioned with the end about a 1/4 inch from the top outboard
corner of the tank. My modified tanks did not work out real well so I made a
new set with carbon fiber. I am attaching a photo of one of my new tanks during
construction. You can kind of see the vent tube location. The CF tanks have
tested well but aren't flying yet.
Carroll Jernigan
601XL
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| Subject: | Re: 601XL fuel vents |
Thanks Carroll ,I was misreading the prints ,I was not aware that the
vent tube was internal . Thanks, Wade
----- Original Message -----
From: Trainnut01@aol.com
To: zenith-list@matronics.com
Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2006 6:32 AM
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: 601XL fuel vents
Wade
I modified a pair of long range tanks from ZAC. Gave me a chance to
look inside. The vent tube is not attached at the top at all. It is
beveled on the top end and is positioned with the end about a 1/4 inch
from the top outboard corner of the tank. My modified tanks did not work
out real well so I made a new set with carbon fiber. I am attaching a
photo of one of my new tanks during construction. You can kind of see
the vent tube location. The CF tanks have tested well but aren't flying
yet.
Carroll Jernigan
601XL
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| Subject: | Re: 601XL fuel vents |
Thanks Craig ,I now have a clear picture of what is needed . Thanks ,Wade
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Craig Payne" <craig@craigandjean.com>
Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2006 9:58 PM
Subject: RE: Zenith-List: Re: 601XL fuel vents
>
> I believe it doesn't really tie in anywhere. The upper end of the pipe has
> a
> slight bevel to it and tucks into the upper corner of the tank. The
> cross-section view of the tank shows this (poorly). I suspect the vent
> tube
> may be tack welded to the wall of the tank in that upper corner.
>
> -- Craig
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: control cable question |
Does anyone know of a device that would desensitize the XL elevator motion around
neutral, akin to the exponential function on radio control transmitters? Flying
in the Zenith demo, it seemed that for gradual-to-moderate turns much more
stick deflection was needed for ailerons than elevator while holding altitude
in the turn, and slight stick adjustments made for big pitch changes.
For those who fly XLs and other light planes, is this a big deal, and would there
be a benefit in smoother flying with an elevator that had less deflection relative
to the control stick around neutral, then catching up for full surface
deflection at full stick?
Thanks for your inputs
--------
David Glass
Forest, VA
Zodiac XL - N253DG reserved
On the gear, ready for tail and cables 12/06
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=82630#82630
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| Subject: | Re: 601XL fuel vents |
Wade,
For the wing tanks, any high point in the tank will do. I put the vent
ends below the bottom wing surface by an inch. For the header tank, I
vented next to the incoming line near the top of the tank and routed a
tube to the right wing a few feet out and curved the tip hanging below
directly into the air stream to prevent siphoning and keep the fumes
from being close to the exhaust on the left side.
Larry McFarland - 601HDS at www.macsmachine.com
Wade Jones wrote:
> Hello group ,I have searched the archives and found nothing pertaining
> to the fuel vents .I am plans building and am having problems
> determining where the vent line ties into the fuel tank .Could someone
> give some help in this area . Thanks, Wade
> *
>
>
> *
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| Subject: | Re: control cable question |
It is a lot less noticeable in the dual stick version. This is probably because
of the stick position rather than any real change.
deglass1 wrote:
> Does anyone know of a device that would desensitize the XL elevator motion around
neutral, akin to the exponential function on radio control transmitters?
Flying in the Zenith demo, it seemed that for gradual-to-moderate turns much
more stick deflection was needed for ailerons than elevator while holding altitude
in the turn, and slight stick adjustments made for big pitch changes.
> For those who fly XLs and other light planes, is this a big deal, and would there
be a benefit in smoother flying with an elevator that had less deflection
relative to the control stick around neutral, then catching up for full surface
deflection at full stick?
> Thanks for your inputs
--------
W.R. "Gig" Giacona
601XL Under Construction
See my progress at www.peoamerica.net/N601WR
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| Subject: | Re: 601XL fuel vents |
This is my experience making an -HD tank, but maybe you can use the idea.
I wrapped a piece of aluminum at the top of the tube, and riveted that piece
with the tank's side.
See attached picture - I have higher resolution, (~700 KB). Let me know if
interested and I'll send privately.
Carlos
CH601-HD, plans
On 20/12/06, Ron Lendon <rlendon@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>
> I have mine out being welded. I will talk to the guy and see if he will
> allow pictures of the process. Tacking it to the top of the tank is
> something I didn't think about but will mention it to the weldor.
>
> --------
> Ron Lendon, Clinton Township, MI
> Corvair Zodiac XL, ScrapBuilder ;-)
> http://www.mykitlog.com/rlendon
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=82585#82585
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Video Cameras?? |
There is a new crop of digital camcorders that shoot 30 progressive frames per
second instead of (or in addition to) 60 interlace fields per sec (that are separated
in time by 1/60th sec). I have been considering the Canon Elura. I have
had experience with the small NTSC color cameras (interlaced) that are easy
to put out on a wing tip.. but I don't know how a remote camera could be inexpensively
done with progressive scan, without putting the whole camcorder outside
the cockpit somehow. There may be a creative solution for a small remote
progressive camera. This probably doesn't help you too much..
Bill Mileski
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| Subject: | Re: control cable question |
I suspect that CH probably intended it that way. He certainly designed the ailerons
and flaps thicker than the wing to accentuate the response rate. Elevators
that are blanked by the stab tend to have a dead zone around neutral but once
active they still are at the same rate.
Does anyone know of a device that would desensitize the XL elevator motion around
neutral, akin to the exponential function on radio control transmitters? Flying
in the Zenith demo, it seemed that for gradual-to-moderate turns much more
stick deflection was needed for ailerons than elevator while holding altitude
in the turn, and slight stick adjustments made for big pitch changes.
For those who fly XLs and other light planes, is this a big deal, and would there
be a benefit in smoother flying with an elevator that had less deflection relative
to the control stick around neutral, then catching up for full surface
deflection at full stick?
Thanks for your inputs
--------
David Glass
Forest, VA
Zodiac XL - N253DG reserved
On the gear, ready for tail and cables 12/06
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=82630#82630
Dave Downey
Harleysville (SE) PA
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Listers,
I'm wanting to buy some labels for my panel and thought someone could point me
to the right place. Here's what I think I want:
White print on a clear stick-on label. I prefer that it not be a water-based ink
for durability.
Is there anyone out there who produces such a product?
Thanks,
Tommy Walker in Alabama
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Tommy Walker
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| Subject: | Re: Labels and More |
Take a look at those handheld label makers. They have many different fonts as
well as sizes.
-----Original Message-----
From: twalker@cableone.net
To: zenith-list@matronics.com
Sent: Wed, 20 Dec 2006 10:36 AM
Subject: Zenith-List: Labels and More
Listers,
I'm wanting to buy some labels for my panel and thought someone could point me
to the right place. Here's what I think I want:
White print on a clear stick-on label. I prefer that it not be a water-based
ink for durability.
Is there anyone out there who produces such a product?
Thanks,
Tommy Walker in Alabama
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--------
Tommy Walker
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http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=82654#82654
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| Subject: | Re: control cable question |
On the Flight Design CTSW 2006 they have springs attached to the yoke to make it
less sensitive and feel more like a Cessna or larger plane... Night and day
difference from the 2005 CTSW. It works great for that model... Not sure what
people think for the Zodiac
-----Original Message-----
From: "deglass1" <deglass1@aol.com>
Sent: 12/20/06 8:52 AM
Subject: Zenith-List: Re: control cable question
Does anyone know of a device that would desensitize the XL elevator motion around
neutral, akin to the exponential function on radio control transmitters? Flying
in the Zenith demo, it seemed that for gradual-to-moderate turns much more
stick deflection was needed for ailerons than elevator while holding altitude
in the turn, and slight stick adjustments made for big pitch changes.
For those who fly XLs and other light planes, is this a big deal, and would there
be a benefit in smoother flying with an elevator that had less deflection relative
to the control stick around neutral, then catching up for full surface
deflection at full stick?
Thanks for your inputs
--------
David Glass
Forest, VA
Zodiac XL - N253DG reserved
On the gear, ready for tail and cables 12/06
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=82630#82630
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>> white on clear
Looks like these tapes will do what you want in a Brother P-touch label
maker: TZ135 (1/2"), TZ145 (3/4"), TZS155 (1", extra strength adhesive)
-- Craig
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| Subject: | Re: 601XL fuel vents |
Thanks Larry ,I have received some good info per my request .I think I now
have it under control .I have been improving my Aluminum welding skills
,however while I was at a local sheet metal shop I saw some good Al welding
.The quality was much better than I could ever acquire .The owner of the
shop gave me a quote of $75.00 to $100.00 for welding both tanks including
the fittings and bead rolling . I have not got the tanks back yet ,hope the
shop can do this job at that price . Thanks again , Wade
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----- Original Message -----
From: "LarryMcFarland" <larry@macsmachine.com>
Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2006 9:04 AM
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: 601XL fuel vents
>
> Wade,
> For the wing tanks, any high point in the tank will do. I put the vent
> ends below the bottom wing surface by an inch. For the header tank, I
> vented next to the incoming line near the top of the tank and routed a
> tube to the right wing a few feet out and curved the tip hanging below
> directly into the air stream to prevent siphoning and keep the fumes from
> being close to the exhaust on the left side.
>
> Larry McFarland - 601HDS at www.macsmachine.com
>
> Wade Jones wrote:
>> Hello group ,I have searched the archives and found nothing pertaining to
>> the fuel vents .I am plans building and am having problems determining
>> where the vent line ties into the fuel tank .Could someone give some help
>> in this area . Thanks, Wade
>> *
>>
>>
>> *
>
>
>
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I recently had to select a video camera and bought a digital still camera.
Depending on the resolution and frame rate a Canon SD800 with a 4 gigabyte
SDHC type memory card will shoot 30-172 minutes of video. At 640 by 480
pixels and 30 frames per second you can get 30 minutes and the clarity is
outstanding. My tests indicate that a charged battery will last well over a
hour while shooting a movie.
-- Craig
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| Subject: | Re: Re: control cable question and Elevator sensitivity |
The elevator input is sensitive relative to the ailerons, which are "
heavy", at least on my XL. This is no big deal, in my opinion. The
elevator sensitivity is easy to get used to. I have dual sticks, which
may provide a little less elevator travel than the Y stick per measured
deflection of input, but I am not sure. I would have to go to the dwgs
and check the geometry.
I first flew it on its maiden flight with no control difficulty or
concerns. Anyone who can fly a Cessna or Piper type trainer should have
no trouble with flying the XL. My XL is really a fun to fly airplane.
Tony Graziano
Buchanan, Tn
N493TG ; 186 hrs
---
I suspect that CH probably intended it that way. He certainly designed
the ailerons
and flaps thicker than the wing to accentuate the response rate.
Elevators
that are blanked by the stab tend to have a dead zone around neutral but
once
active they still are at the same rate.
---
Does anyone know of a device that would desensitize the XL elevator
motion around
neutral, akin to the exponential function on radio control transmitters?
Flying
in the Zenith demo, it seemed that for gradual-to-moderate turns much
more
stick deflection was needed for ailerons than elevator while holding
altitude
in the turn, and slight stick adjustments made for big pitch changes.
For those who fly XLs and other light planes, is this a big deal, and
would there
be a benefit in smoother flying with an elevator that had less
deflection relative
to the control stick around neutral, then catching up for full surface
deflection at full stick?
Thanks for your inputs
--------
David Glass
Forest, VA
Zodiac XL - N253DG reserved
On the gear, ready for tail and cables 12/06
------------
Dave Downey
Harleysville (SE) PA
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| Subject: | Re: 601XL fuel vents |
Thanks Carlos ,for the info . Wade
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----- Original Message -----
From: Carlos Sa
To: zenith-list@matronics.com
Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2006 10:00 AM
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Re: 601XL fuel vents
This is my experience making an -HD tank, but maybe you can use the
idea.
I wrapped a piece of aluminum at the top of the tube, and riveted that
piece with the tank's side.
See attached picture - I have higher resolution, (~700 KB). Let me
know if interested and I'll send privately.
Carlos
CH601-HD, plans
On 20/12/06, Ron Lendon <rlendon@comcast.net> wrote:
<rlendon@comcast.net>
I have mine out being welded. I will talk to the guy and see if he
will allow pictures of the process. Tacking it to the top of the tank
is something I didn't think about but will mention it to the weldor.
--------
Ron Lendon, Clinton Township, MI
Corvair Zodiac XL, ScrapBuilder ;-)
http://www.mykitlog.com/rlendon
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| Subject: | Re:Labels and more |
I bought a kit from EAA for certifying a homebuilt for a few bucks. It
contained a sheet of decals. AS and WagAero sell these too.
Bob
XL-Rud-eng mt
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| Subject: | Re: Labels and More |
Hi Tommy,
Look into the Brother P-Touch label maker machines. Th eoffer different fonts
and borders and the label material comes in different widths and different colors
including clear with different ink colors. The labels are peel and stick
adhesive and I've had good service from them in an open cockpit ultra-not-so-light.
Ed
.
---- Tommy Walker <twalker@cableone.net> wrote:
>
> Listers,
>
> I'm wanting to buy some labels for my panel and thought someone could point me
to the right place. Here's what I think I want:
>
> White print on a clear stick-on label. I prefer that it not be a water-based
ink for durability.
>
> Is there anyone out there who produces such a product?
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| Subject: | Re: Video Cameras?? |
Have you considered any of the small cameras used on Radio Controlled
airplanes? You can Google up many.Here is one that looked interesting.
http://www.wonderhobby.com/smmiwicospyc.html
I have a refence which shows some pics made this way which look pretty
good.I am still trying to locate it.When I do I will post them to you..
Best,
Ron Culver
----- Original Message -----
From: JG
To: zenith-list@matronics.com
Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2006 7:18 AM
Subject: Zenith-List: Video Cameras??
Gday,
Does anyone have experience with digital video cameras that may
help.....
I want to video take-offs and landings, then analyse frame by frame
to determine angle of attack and speed. The older analog ones didn't
have enough clarity in single frames, but I understand the digital ones
are much better that way.....
Also want to use it for tuft-testing, and that means being able to
hook up to a remote camera. It seems that most of the lower end DV
cameras don't have such an input. Does anyone know of one that is
capable in this regard??
There are still some questions posed on the list regarding Slats v/s
VGs that I need to answer, but I'll leave all that until after all the
distractions of this holiday season......
Wishing everyone a Merry Christmas,
and fair skies and tailwinds always.....
JG
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| Subject: | Re: Video Cameras?? |
Here is a video a guy made from a R/C ..not great fidelity,but might be
useful if wing mounted to view tufts???
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2237947353453839215
----- Original Message -----
From: JG
To: zenith-list@matronics.com
Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2006 7:18 AM
Subject: Zenith-List: Video Cameras??
Gday,
Does anyone have experience with digital video cameras that may
help.....
I want to video take-offs and landings, then analyse frame by frame
to determine angle of attack and speed. The older analog ones didn't
have enough clarity in single frames, but I understand the digital ones
are much better that way.....
Also want to use it for tuft-testing, and that means being able to
hook up to a remote camera. It seems that most of the lower end DV
cameras don't have such an input. Does anyone know of one that is
capable in this regard??
There are still some questions posed on the list regarding Slats v/s
VGs that I need to answer, but I'll leave all that until after all the
distractions of this holiday season......
Wishing everyone a Merry Christmas,
and fair skies and tailwinds always.....
JG
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| Subject: | corvair motor mount |
William Wynn's manual shows the motor mount as being built with the spools
as shown in the first drawing. I understand that Zenair now furnishes the
kits with longeron mounts to accommodate this type of motor mount.
However the older kits had the motor mount bolts welded to the brackets that
bolted to the longerons. This would require a mount with tabs as shown in
the next two illustrations.
The spool mounted engine mount places the welds in shear while the tab
mounted mount places the weld in tension, unless a member is folded over
parallel to the diagonal tube as shown in the middle drawing.
Question: is the tab mounted motor mount as durable and structurally sound
as the spool mounted?
Russell Johnson / 601-HDS
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| Subject: | Re: Video Cameras?? |
Look up Samsung SC-X105(L)/X110(L)
small video cam with external cam unit with it
----- Original Message -----
From: "billmileski" <mileski@sonalysts.com>
Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2006 10:06 AM
Subject: Zenith-List: Re: Video Cameras??
>
> There is a new crop of digital camcorders that shoot 30 progressive frames
> per second instead of (or in addition to) 60 interlace fields per sec
> (that are separated in time by 1/60th sec). I have been considering the
> Canon Elura. I have had experience with the small NTSC color cameras
> (interlaced) that are easy to put out on a wing tip.. but I don't know how
> a remote camera could be inexpensively done with progressive scan, without
> putting the whole camcorder outside the cockpit somehow. There may be a
> creative solution for a small remote progressive camera. This probably
> doesn't help you too much..
>
> Bill Mileski
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=82646#82646
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| Subject: | Re: Video Cameras?? |
That's amazing inflight video - it really takes you for a ride!
I bought a cheapo wireless camera from eBay but it doesn't handle the
light changes like that one does. That might be the answer, now just
need a camcorder with AV input.....
----- Original Message -----
From: Ron Culver
To: zenith-list@matronics.com
Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2006 6:01 AM
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Video Cameras??
Here is a video a guy made from a R/C ..not great fidelity,but might
be useful if wing mounted to view tufts???
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2237947353453839215
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| Subject: | Re: Inspection plate fasteners |
"The Cherry Rivetless Nut Plate applies in less than two seconds in
aluminium sheets as thin as 0.062 inches."
I think that limits their use quite substantially.
Peter
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Gig Giacona
Sent: Wednesday, 20 December 2006 1:18 AM
Subject: Zenith-List: Re: Inspection plate fasteners
They look like standard nut plates installed with solid rivets. They are
available thought ACS and I'd tell you the page but I don't have my catalog
with me.
Also speaking of nut plates has anyone ever seen these?
http://www.textronfasteningsystems.com/pressroom/pr/RNP.html
brothapig(at)HOTMAIL.COM wrote:
> May be a dumb question, but could somebody please tell me the trade name
of the fasteners found in the picture in the link below? They are basically
nut-plates, but I can't seem to find any at any of the aircraft tool
distributors. Could somebody give me a hint on where I can find these as
well? Thanks in advance.
>
> Ryan
>
>
http://www.mykitairplane.com/MyCH701/pages/022%20Elevator%20Access%20All%20D
oubler%20Rivets.htm
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601XL Under Construction
See my progress at www.peoamerica.net/N601WR
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| Subject: | Re: Video Cameras?? |
small cameras used on Radio Controlled airplanes?
Ron--
I have a set like the one you are suggesting. It works well tied into a
video monitor or TV but I'm having trouble trying to find a Video camera
that will interface with it. I'd like to be able to use the video camera to
record flights. I have a small JVC video camera but can find the appropriate
cables to tie in the R/C receiver. Any suggestions?
Georgfe May
601XL 912s --30hours
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| Subject: | Re: corvair motor mount |
Russell,
The tab-mounted mounts are as sound and durable if they're properly
welded. The spool type is perhaps stronger because
the weld is more in shear than tension to a minor degree. I don't know
that I've ever heard of a mount breaking because of the difference.
Larry McFarland - 601HDS at www.macsmachine.com
Russell J. wrote:
> William Wynn's manual shows the motor mount as being built with the
> spools as shown in the first drawing. I understand that Zenair now
> furnishes the kits with longeron mounts to accommodate this type of
> motor mount.
>
> However the older kits had the motor mount bolts welded to the
> brackets that bolted to the longerons. This would require a mount with
> tabs as shown in the next two illustrations.
>
> The spool mounted engine mount places the welds in shear while the tab
> mounted mount places the weld in tension, unless a member is folded
> over parallel to the diagonal tube as shown in the middle drawing.
>
> Question: is the tab mounted motor mount as durable and structurally
> sound as the spool mounted?
>
> Russell Johnson / 601-HDS
>
> do not archive
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| Subject: | corvair motor mount |
At least on the 601XL Zenith has always offered long and short mounting
bolts. The short bolts worked with motor mounts with flat plates while the
long bolts work with mounts with spools. You can see this in the latest
plans by comparing the Jabiru mount on 6-JE-1 with the dynafocal mount show
in 6-YE-2. This same choice is shown in my circa 2000 plans.
-- Craig
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| Subject: | Re: Video Cameras?? |
This guy interfaced with some video goggles. I don't know how to contact him
but there are credits at the end of the video and if you do pauses in that
area you might find a reference there..??
http://video.google.com:80/videoplay?docid=-2237947353453839215
----- Original Message -----
From: "george may" <gfmjr_20@HOTMAIL.COM>
Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2006 4:03 PM
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Video Cameras??
>
> small cameras used on Radio Controlled airplanes?
>
>
> Ron--
> I have a set like the one you are suggesting. It works well tied into a
> video monitor or TV but I'm having trouble trying to find a Video camera
> that will interface with it. I'd like to be able to use the video camera
> to record flights. I have a small JVC video camera but can find the
> appropriate cables to tie in the R/C receiver. Any suggestions?
>
> Georgfe May
> 601XL 912s --30hours
>
>
> do not archive
>
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| Subject: | Re: Video Cameras?? |
It has been a while since I did any of these things but don't most
cameras have an input so that they can be used a camcorders?? Perhaps
someone more knowlegable might post some better help.. that video is
really amazing ..and as I said there are credits at the end they go fast
but perhaps with a quick eye and some patience you could catch a link
there?
----- Original Message -----
From: JG
To: zenith-list@matronics.com
Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2006 3:58 PM
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Video Cameras??
That's amazing inflight video - it really takes you for a ride!
I bought a cheapo wireless camera from eBay but it doesn't handle the
light changes like that one does. That might be the answer, now just
need a camcorder with AV input.....
----- Original Message -----
From: Ron Culver
To: zenith-list@matronics.com
Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2006 6:01 AM
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Video Cameras??
Here is a video a guy made from a R/C ..not great fidelity,but might
be useful if wing mounted to view tufts???
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2237947353453839215
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| Subject: | Re: Video Cameras?? |
Remember that Australia uses the PAL standard - 25 frames per second.
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Champ L16A flying
Zodiac XL - Working on wings
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| Subject: | Re: Video Cameras?? |
> Remember that Australia uses the PAL standard - 25 frames per second
Yeh, that's just what I'm trying to find out now - if I film in PAL, how
does that go onto YouTube or whatever??
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| Subject: | Re: Video Cameras?? |
Regarding PAL - Youtube doesn't use standard full resolution video. I haven't
uploaded anything to them but I suspect if you can save your video as a Quicktime,
mpeg or similar format that you'd be OK. Check what the site says about
video requirements.
Tim
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| Subject: | Building flaperons |
Greetings all,
Started building flaperons and thought I would pass along this building
tip. Directions say before drilling the hinge angles to the spar to
place the spar with temporarily clamped hinge angles up to wing to make
sure the distance is correct between mounts. Directions for permanent
mounting indicate the use of a 1/4 in AN washer on each side of the
hinge angle. These washers are .060 thick. I clamped a piece of
material .120 in thickness to the inside of one of the flaperon mounts
to account for the thickness of the two washers. With out accommodating
for the thickness of the washers tightening the bolt would displace the
mounting arms the thickness of the two washers. Probably wouldn't
amount to much movement but the more stress kept off from these mounting
points the better.
Also like to wish all on the list a Merry Christmas and Happy New Year.
Dick Neitzel
Sayner, WI
701 Jabiru 2200
N962WB
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| Subject: | Re: Zenith-List Digest: Removing 701 Slats, etc. |
I await with keen anticipation for someone to try to fly a 701 with the
slats intact but the wings removed. Surely this is a logical extension.
Any takers? DO NOT ARCHIVE
John Goodings.
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| Subject: | Re: Labels and More |
Tommy, what I did was I went to a local company that made vinyl signs. They
use a computer to make letters and numbers that have sticky adhesives on the
back. They can make any kind of color background, lettering and size. I used
them for everything, warnings, tail numbers and all panel words. Fast and cheep.
Maybe you could find such a company near you. Also, they were thrilled to know
they were making the letters for a homemade plane. FWIW, Best regards, Bill
of Georgia
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I put a bunch of P-touch labels on my Challenger II about a year ago & won't
make the same mistake again with my 701.
The label near the fuel filler cap is unreadable because P-touch labels
don't take well to solvents like fuel. My panel labels have discolored and
blurred somewhat and are starting to come loose.
Wish I could find a good source for inexpensive etched aluminum labels.
Regards,
Les (finished wings, & tail, starting fus)
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
> Craig Payne
> Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2006 9:26 AM
> To: zenith-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RE: Zenith-List: Labels and More
>
> --> <craig@craigandjean.com>
>
> >> white on clear
>
> Looks like these tapes will do what you want in a Brother
> P-touch label
> maker: TZ135 (1/2"), TZ145 (3/4"), TZS155 (1", extra strength
> adhesive)
>
> -- Craig
>
>
> Photoshare, and much much more:
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: 601XL fuel vents |
Wade,
Sounds like a good price to me. I am being charged $160 per tank and think it's
a bargain. I don't have the time to get as good as this guy already is.
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Ron Lendon, Clinton Township, MI
Corvair Zodiac XL, ScrapBuilder ;-)
http://www.mykitlog.com/rlendon
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| Subject: | Aileron end rod washers |
Christmas greetings from Down Under,
I am connecting my XL Ailerons and have come up with some Q's. On XL plans 6-W-10,
where the rod end connects to the belcrank with bolt AN5-10A, it does not
show any washers? but the other end Rod end at the aileron side does show 2
washers.?? Should there be washers at the belcrank end?
Also the bolt AN3-12A that goes through the belcrank bushing also does not show
any washer? My Airframe training says to use washers ad no washers go against
this.. IS it just assumed that you would put washers on them without writing
it on the plans? page 8 of the construction manual does state minimum one washer
under nut after bolt grip length... and thats why its not mentioned on the
plans???
So What have those that have gone before me, done??
Chris
Zodiac XL
Sydney
Australia
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| Subject: | Re: Aileron end rod washers |
Standard aircraft procedures should be used here. Typically, at least
one washer is used under the nut, more are used if necessary. If more
than four washers are needed to get proper grip length, the next
shorter standard bolt should be used. The plans probably show two
washers on the aileron end to highlight the fact that more than one
is needed there. If the plans don't show washers, usually only one is
needed.
On Dec 21, 2006, at 1:30 AM, Chris sinfield wrote:
> I am connecting my XL Ailerons and have come up with some Q's. On
> XL plans 6-W-10, where the rod end connects to the belcrank with
> bolt AN5-10A, it does not show any washers? but the other end Rod
> end at the aileron side does show 2 washers.?? Should there be
> washers at the belcrank end?
>
> Also the bolt AN3-12A that goes through the belcrank bushing also
> does not show any washer? My Airframe training says to use washers
> ad no washers go against this.. IS it just assumed that you would
> put washers on them without writing it on the plans? page 8 of the
> construction manual does state minimum one washer under nut after
> bolt grip length... and thats why its not mentioned on the plans??
--
Bryan Martin
N61BM, CH 601 XL,
RAM Subaru, Stratus redrive.
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