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1. 01:13 AM - Brake cylinders wanted (LHusky@aol.com)
2. 01:45 AM - Re: Microsoft's own virus (secatur)
3. 01:51 AM - Re: Re: Microsoft's own virus (LHusky@aol.com)
4. 06:48 AM - Polishing progress (Bill Naumuk)
5. 06:57 AM - Re: Polishing progress (Dave Ruddiman)
6. 07:19 AM - Re: Brake cylinders wanted (Brandon Tucker)
7. 07:24 AM - Re: Length of Aileron Rod? (PatrickW)
8. 07:36 AM - Re: Screw-up (Rich)
9. 07:39 AM - Re: Re: Microsoft's own virus (Mike Fothergill)
10. 07:40 AM - Stiff rudder nose skins? (Dr. Andrew Elliott)
11. 08:02 AM - Re: Re: Length of Aileron Rod? (Edward Moody II)
12. 08:16 AM - Re: Stiff rudder nose skins? (Paul Mulwitz)
13. 09:09 AM - Tips for New 701 Builders (george.mueller@aurora.org)
14. 09:32 AM - Re: Screw-up (thesumak@aol.com)
15. 09:53 AM - Re: Screw-up (Bill Naumuk)
16. 10:17 AM - Re: Matco tailwheel picture (billmassey@hughes.net)
17. 11:16 AM - Re: OT, for Riteangle customers (EMAproducts@aol.com)
18. 12:08 PM - Re: Re: Brake cylinders wanted (LHusky@aol.com)
19. 02:49 PM - Stick a fork in me- I'm done (Bill Naumuk)
20. 03:35 PM - Re: Stick a fork in me- I'm done (Dave Ruddiman)
21. 04:00 PM - Re: Screw-up (Phil Maxson)
22. 04:09 PM - The Secret to Prep Work Prior to Polishing with Nuvite (Phil Maxson)
23. 04:33 PM - Re: Stiff rudder nose skins? (Juan Vega)
24. 04:35 PM - Re: stick a fark in me..... (Zed Smith)
25. 04:35 PM - Re: Screw-up (Juan Vega)
26. 04:59 PM - Re: Stick a fork in me- I'm done (Gary Boothe)
27. 05:00 PM - Re: Screw-up (Juan Vega)
28. 05:01 PM - Tail spring dimensions? (Dr. Andrew Elliott)
29. 06:33 PM - Re: Tail spring dimensions? (Brandon Tucker)
30. 06:52 PM - Re: Length of Aileron Rod? (chris Sinfield)
31. 07:38 PM - does this need vg's? (NYTerminat)
32. 08:39 PM - I messed up skinning my rudder (Jon Burns)
33. 08:39 PM - Re: Stick a fork in me- I'm done (Noel Loveys)
34. 09:05 PM - Re: does this need vg's? (Noel Loveys)
35. 09:46 PM - Re: Stiff rudder nose skins? (Administrator)
36. 09:46 PM - Re: does this need vg's? (nyterminat@aol.com)
37. 10:08 PM - SORT OF AIRCRAFT RELATED (Dave Ruddiman)
38. 10:38 PM - Re: SORT OF AIRCRAFT RELATED (LHusky@aol.com)
39. 10:44 PM - Re: SORT OF AIRCRAFT RELATED (Craig Payne)
40. 10:46 PM - Re: SORT OF AIRCRAFT RELATED (Michael Hilderbrand)
41. 11:22 PM - Re: SORT OF AIRCRAFT RELATED (Administrator)
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| Subject: | Brake cylinders wanted |
Is there anyone who did not like the MC-5 cylinders that came with the kit
and went with something else? If so, I would be interested in any MC-5 and/or
MC-4 brake cylinders that you want to get out of your garage. Anyone found
a great deal on these anywhere? Also, looking for landing gear parts,
wheels, tires, or just about anything that came with the kit that you did not
like
and went a separate way.
Let me know what you have and what you want for it.
Thanks,
Larry Husky
Lakeview, Oregon
Almost ready to sit inside of fuse! (No engine noises. I SWEAR!)
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| Subject: | Re: Microsoft's own virus |
HMMM ! Maybe my problem ! ....Got a copy of new FS X for Xmas...It will NOT load
!...starts IE7 for some unknown reason and then just refuses to read the FS
X disc...says DVD RW "not responding"
Bill Gates...why aren't you in jail yet!
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http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=83919#83919
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| Subject: | Re: Microsoft's own virus |
I also got a copy of FlightSim X. The XL plane from the Zenith site will
work with the new version, but I only have one instrument on the panel. Also,
when you are flying and your looking at your plane from outside, the canopy
is solid black and you can not look inside. I have not had time to do any
research to see if there is a fix for this available or if there is going to be.
I do like the new simulator better though. Hope someone is able to fix the
Zenith planes to fly in the new version.
Larry Husky
Lakeview, Oregon
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| Subject: | Polishing progress |
All:
Yes, the Nuvite process works. Like anything else in the building
game, it's a trade-off. Material costs, even if you get all the Nuvite
recommended accessories is 20% of what it'll cost you to paint.
Time-wise, it's about the same, but God is it boring!!
I'm forcing myself to go out and finish the c-section now-
hopefully, I'll be able to post pictures of what I consider to be the
final results by the end of the day.
Notes:
1. Zenith builders are dealing with non-clad material. There are
three pages in the "Book" that deal with it- concentrate on them. E-mail
me and I'll attach the "Book" if you don't have it.
2. You can't get F9 through ACS- go to the Nuvite website. For
non-clad material, you need F9, C, and S grades. G6 is a waste of money
for our purposes. Anyone want to buy a half-pound, cheap?
3. The only usable bonnets are the backed bonnets available from
Nuvite or their equivalent. Haven't found the equivalent yet.
4. Clean the gunk out from around rivets between passes. This will
take as much time as the actual polishing.
5. You WILL get dirty as a coal miner.
6. Have Ma rummage through the bargain bin for flannel every time
she's in the Wal-Mart fabric department. I'm getting flannel remnants
for an average of $.25 a yard.
7. Good, premade flannel bonnets are available from a Canadian
company for a decent price. E-mail me and I'll attach the link.
Good building!
Bill Naumuk
HDS Fuselage
Townville, Pa
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| Subject: | Re: Polishing progress |
If you go to Goodwill or those type of thrift stores you can usually buy
sorted rags like T-shirts, flannel, denim etc. by the pound.
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----- Original Message -----
From: Bill Naumuk
To: zenith-list@matronics.com
Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2006 6:47 AM
Subject: Zenith-List: Polishing progress
All:
Yes, the Nuvite process works. Like anything else in the building
game, it's a trade-off. Material costs, even if you get all the Nuvite
recommended accessories is 20% of what it'll cost you to paint.
Time-wise, it's about the same, but God is it boring!!
I'm forcing myself to go out and finish the c-section now-
hopefully, I'll be able to post pictures of what I consider to be the
final results by the end of the day.
Notes:
1. Zenith builders are dealing with non-clad material. There are
three pages in the "Book" that deal with it- concentrate on them. E-mail
me and I'll attach the "Book" if you don't have it.
2. You can't get F9 through ACS- go to the Nuvite website. For
non-clad material, you need F9, C, and S grades. G6 is a waste of money
for our purposes. Anyone want to buy a half-pound, cheap?
3. The only usable bonnets are the backed bonnets available from
Nuvite or their equivalent. Haven't found the equivalent yet.
4. Clean the gunk out from around rivets between passes. This will
take as much time as the actual polishing.
5. You WILL get dirty as a coal miner.
6. Have Ma rummage through the bargain bin for flannel every time
she's in the Wal-Mart fabric department. I'm getting flannel remnants
for an average of $.25 a yard.
7. Good, premade flannel bonnets are available from a Canadian
company for a decent price. E-mail me and I'll attach the link.
Good building!
Bill Naumuk
HDS Fuselage
Townville, Pa
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| Subject: | Re: Brake cylinders wanted |
Larry,
After trying to go the cheap way with Azusa
mechanical brakes with dismal results, I bought this
hydraulic upgrade kit:
http://www.greatplainsas.com/schbrakes.html
I particularly like the master cylinders. They
are much smaller than the Matco ones. I do not know
if they would be a direct replacement for Matco,
however. If you have rudder pedals from the factory,
they may not fit. I modified my rudder pedals to fit
them. I can measure them today and get back to you.
This set of brakes hold full static RPM on my
Corvair HDS without any problems.
VR/
Brandon Tucker
44 hours
Installing VG's today...
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| Subject: | Re: Length of Aileron Rod? |
Thread a nut onto the rod before you cut it. The nut will clean up the cut end
of the rod when you remove it (the nut).
- Patrick
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=83959#83959
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Just for kicks, here is my first oops! I call it stupid Tax. We all have
paid it! (I think!)
http://ridingflyingandliving.com/ridingflyingandlivingwebpages/RFLPhotos/Zod
oacPictures/Rudder/Rudder22.jpg
Rich Simmons
601 XL
Tail done
Wings 99%
Ordered the rest of the components - ETA Mid February
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| Subject: | Re: Microsoft's own virus |
Hi;
If you have the Deluxe version of FltSim it is possible to add
instruments from other aircraft to the 601 panel. I have imported Cessna
172 instruments into my 601HDS Tail Dragger.
Mike
CH-601HDS +1000 hrs
UHS Spinners
LHusky@aol.com wrote:
> I also got a copy of FlightSim X. The XL plane from the Zenith site
> will work with the new version, but I only have one instrument on the
> panel. Also, when you are flying and your looking at your plane from
> outside, the canopy is solid black and you can not look inside. I have
> not had time to do any research to see if there is a fix for this
> available or if there is going to be. I do like the new simulator
> better though. Hope someone is able to fix the Zenith planes to fly in
> the new version.
>
> Larry Husky
> Lakeview, Oregon
>
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| Subject: | Stiff rudder nose skins? |
I received a QB TD kit with the rudder nose skin made from .025 instead
of .016. Anyone out there successfully built a rudder with this
thickness nose skin? How did you get the skin in place and held under
the rear skin to drill it? Unlike the .016, the .025 skin is *very*
stiff and will not bend very much by hand. Did you have to make some
special jigs?
Quick reply direct also would be appreciated, if possible, as I only
receive the digest.
Thanks,
Andy Elliott, Mesa, AZ
N601GE (reserved)
601XL/TD/QB, Corvair, building...
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| Subject: | Re: Length of Aileron Rod? |
That will work, but the better solution is cut only one end (or only one
end at a time) and clean the threads by threading the correct die on
from the uncut end. Remember that he who dies (pun) with the most tools
wins.
Ed Moody II
----- Original Message -----
From: PatrickW
To: zenith-list@matronics.com
Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2006 9:24 AM
Subject: Zenith-List: Re: Length of Aileron Rod?
Thread a nut onto the rod before you cut it. The nut will clean up
the cut end of the rod when you remove it (the nut).
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| Subject: | Re: Stiff rudder nose skins? |
Hi Andy,
I don't remember whether my rudder nose skin was .016 or .025, but I
do remember the little jig I needed to get it in place.
I used a couple of 2x4s with blocks between them to make a box. The
inner dimensions of the box were the same size as the finished rear
area of the nose skin. I think I just held it together with clamps
(since it had no enduring value). I pushed the bent nose skin into
the box so it held the rear edges at the right distance apart and
drilled the rivet lines in this condition. Then it was a simple
matter of reversing the position of the nose skin and rear skin so
the nose skin was on the outside for riveting.
Have fun,
Paul
XL Fuselage
At 07:39 AM 12/28/2006, you wrote:
>I received a QB TD kit with the rudder nose skin made from .025
>instead of .016. Anyone out there successfully built a rudder with
>this thickness nose skin? How did you get the skin in place and
>held under the rear skin to drill it? Unlike the .016, the .025
>skin is *very* stiff and will not bend very much by hand. Did you
>have to make some special jigs?
>
>Quick reply direct also would be appreciated, if possible, as I only
>receive the digest.
>
>Thanks,
>Andy Elliott, Mesa, AZ
>N601GE (reserved)
>601XL/TD/QB, Corvair, building...
>
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| Subject: | Tips for New 701 Builders |
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Rich
Very gracious of you to post that picture of the rudder error. Thanks for t
hat. I=99m curious as to if you made new skin or just patched those tr
iangular openings. Cheers Bill Jones 601xl
-----Original Message-----
From: 4rcsimmons@comcast.net
To: zenith-list@matronics.com
Sent: Thu, 28 Dec 2006 10:35 AM
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Screw-up
Just for kicks, here is my first oops! I call it stupid Tax. We all have
paid it! (I think!) http://ridingflyingandliving.com/ridingflyingandlivingwe
bpages/RFLPhotos/ZodoacPictures/Rudder/Rudder22.jpg Rich Simmons 601 XL T
ail done Wings 99% Ordered the rest of the components - ETA Mid February
________________________________________________________________________
ee AOL Mail and more.
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Nope. Now that's creative!
Bill Naumuk
HDS Fuselage
Townville, Pa
----- Original Message -----
From: Rich
To: zenith-list@matronics.com
Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2006 10:35 AM
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Screw-up
Just for kicks, here is my first oops! I call it stupid Tax. We all
have paid it! (I think!)
http://ridingflyingandliving.com/ridingflyingandlivingwebpages/RFLPhotos/
ZodoacPictures/Rudder/Rudder22.jpg
Rich Simmons
601 XL
Tail done
Wings 99%
Ordered the rest of the components - ETA Mid February
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| Subject: | Re: Matco tailwheel picture |
Brandon:
Not sure what happened, but attachment didn't come through.
WRM
----Original Message----
From: btucke73@yahoo.com
Subj: Zenith-List: Matco tailwheel picture
Gents,
Attached is the picture of my tailwheel that I
promised over a week ago. You can see the welded
extention, and how I ran the spring kit.
VR/
Brandon Tucker
601 HDS / corvair
44 hours
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| Subject: | Re: OT, for Riteangle customers |
12/2006
Gentlemen,
Currently I have less than 30% of our customers current e-mail addresses.
I am attempting to update our mailing lists to see if they have any questions
re their RiteAngle IIIb Angle of Attack systems. Occasionally I get a call
from someone who purchased a system several years ago and still do not have
system installed or set-up due to various reasons.
Should you have any questions, comments, photos of system installed in your
plane, endorsements or whatever re: the RiteAngle IIIb system please send it
to this address _riteangle3@aol.com_ (mailto:riteangle3@aol.com)
Thankfully, since the IIIb system has gone into production, we have had no changes
in
the electronics, however we now have a professional written setup manual.
Sincerely
Elbie
EM Aviation, LLC
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| Subject: | Re: Brake cylinders wanted |
Well, They are a little cheaper, but I have already set up my bird for the
Matco ones. I have custom made pedals with my bird's N number in them. I did
save the link for my building partner who is somewhat behind me in building.
He may go that route.
Thanks,
Larry
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| Subject: | Stick a fork in me- I'm done |
All-
I told myself that today was the last day I was going to polish the
c-section. There are still parts to cut undersize and holes to drill
where they don't belong- this finish work doesn't suit me.
What you see is what 50 hrs of farting around will get you.
According to Ron at Nuvite, I can plan on at least another pass with
grade S, maybe one of C, too to get rid of shop rash. He doesn't know
the kind of shop rash I have to deal with. More like a gallon of body
putty and a major rebuild!
I WILL start on the rear fuse before vacation is over. I think I
can, I think I can.....
Good building!
Bill Naumuk
HDS Fuselage
Townville, Pa
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| Subject: | Re: Stick a fork in me- I'm done |
Bill,
Good thing the 601's qualify for sport pilot. You may need it by the
time you're done polishing. And by that time, it will be time to start
again.
do not archive
----- Original Message -----
From: Bill Naumuk
To: zenith-list@matronics.com
Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2006 2:48 PM
Subject: Zenith-List: Stick a fork in me- I'm done
All-
I told myself that today was the last day I was going to polish
the c-section. There are still parts to cut undersize and holes to drill
where they don't belong- this finish work doesn't suit me.
What you see is what 50 hrs of farting around will get you.
According to Ron at Nuvite, I can plan on at least another pass with
grade S, maybe one of C, too to get rid of shop rash. He doesn't know
the kind of shop rash I have to deal with. More like a gallon of body
putty and a major rebuild!
I WILL start on the rear fuse before vacation is over. I think I
can, I think I can.....
Good building!
Bill Naumuk
HDS Fuselage
Townville, Pa
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Rich,
You are certainly the right kind of person to build and complete an aircraf
t. Your sense of humor and your ability to not take yourself too seriously
will serve you well. Too many builders are too stuffy!
Do Not ArchivePhil Maxson601XL/CorvairNorthwest New Jersey119 flying hours
- Preparing for Annual Inspection
Just for kicks, here is my first oops! I call it stupid Tax. We all have pa
id it! (I think!)
http://ridingflyingandliving.com/ridingflyingandlivingwebpages/RFLPhotos/Zo
doacPictures/Rudder/Rudder22.jpg
Rich Simmons
601 XL
Tail done
Wings 99%
Ordered the rest of the components - ETA Mid February
_________________________________________________________________
Type your favorite song.- Get a customized station.- Try MSN Radio powe
red by Pandora.
http://radio.msn.com
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| Subject: | The Secret to Prep Work Prior to Polishing with Nuvite |
Bill Clapp was able to reduce the amount of time to polish by about 50% by
starting with a wet sanding with 1000 grit paper, followed by another wet s
anding with 1500 grit. With this method you only need to use Nuvite C and
S grades. This is what we did with the 2nd half of my plane. It came out
great. The first half was done with the full Nuvite treatment.
Video at http://zenvair.com/601mxvid.wmvPhil Maxson601XL/CorvairNorthwest N
ew Jersey
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Fixing up the home? Live Search can help.
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| Subject: | Re: Stiff rudder nose skins? |
I built it with the thicker skin on the nose skin, mine came that way. quick builds
going to AMD usually have the thicker stuff, makes for a harder leading
edge. The way I put it on is the way you put on the leading edge for the wings,
use a couple of straps. . I put the edge on the insideof the rear skin instead
of on top. this gave me a cleaner edge. The toughest part is making sure
it is a snug fit on the top of the rudder. use a small strap tightly.
it is harder than the thinner stuff and looks just as nice, just a little more
calories burned doin it.
Juan
-----Original Message-----
>From: "Dr. Andrew Elliott" <a.s.elliott@cox.net>
>Sent: Dec 28, 2006 10:39 AM
>To: Zenith-List Digest Server <zenith-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: Zenith-List: Stiff rudder nose skins?
>
>I received a QB TD kit with the rudder nose skin made from .025 instead of .016.
Anyone out there successfully built a rudder with this thickness nose skin?
How did you get the skin in place and held under the rear skin to drill it?
Unlike the .016, the .025 skin is *very* stiff and will not bend very much by
hand. Did you have to make some special jigs?
>
>Quick reply direct also would be appreciated, if possible, as I only receive the
digest.
>
>Thanks,
>Andy Elliott, Mesa, AZ
>N601GE (reserved)
>601XL/TD/QB, Corvair, building...
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| Subject: | Re: stick a fark in me..... |
Bill:
That thing is a hazard.
The radio-frequency reflectivity will be so great as to burn out all radar within
100 miles simply from returned pulses.
The visible-light reflections will blind other pilots.
On the brighter side, no pun intended, you'll be easy to track.......there'll be
a trail of scorched Earth from concentrated Sunlight burning a wide swatch behind
you.
Regards,
Zed/do not archive
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Had the same cut done, just a little filin an itll look purfekt.
Juan
-----Original Message-----
>From: Phil Maxson <pmaxpmax@HOTMAIL.COM>
>Sent: Dec 28, 2006 6:59 PM
>To: zenith-list@matronics.com
>Subject: RE: Zenith-List: Screw-up
>
>Rich,
>
>You are certainly the right kind of person to build and complete an aircraft.
Your sense of humor and your ability to not take yourself too seriously will
serve you well. Too many builders are too stuffy!
>
>Do Not ArchivePhil Maxson601XL/CorvairNorthwest New Jersey119 flying hours - Preparing
for Annual Inspection
>
>
>Just for kicks, here is my first oops! I call it stupid Tax. We all have paid
it! (I think!)
>http://ridingflyingandliving.com/ridingflyingandlivingwebpages/RFLPhotos/ZodoacPictures/Rudder/Rudder22.jpg
>
>Rich Simmons
>601 XL
>Tail done
>Wings 99%
>Ordered the rest of the components - ETA Mid February
>
>_________________________________________________________________
>Type your favorite song. Get a customized station. Try MSN Radio powered by Pandora.
>http://radio.msn.com
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| Subject: | Stick a fork in me- I'm done |
Bill,
Thanks for keeping us posted on the problems/progress. I'm still leaning in
that direction, too. I live about 3 hrs from Nuvite HQ in Petaluma, CA and
need to be in that neighborhood next week. Looks like a visit is in order.
But, really, don't you think if you worked a little harder you would get
done faster? ;)
Gary Boothe
Cool, CA
601 HDSTD, WW Conversion 90% done,
Tail done, wings done, working on c-section
Do Not Archive
_____
From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bill Naumuk
Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2006 2:48 PM
Subject: Zenith-List: Stick a fork in me- I'm done
All-
I told myself that today was the last day I was going to polish the
c-section. There are still parts to cut undersize and holes to drill where
they don't belong- this finish work doesn't suit me.
What you see is what 50 hrs of farting around will get you. According to
Ron at Nuvite, I can plan on at least another pass with grade S, maybe one
of C, too to get rid of shop rash. He doesn't know the kind of shop rash I
have to deal with. More like a gallon of body putty and a major rebuild!
I WILL start on the rear fuse before vacation is over. I think I can, I
think I can.....
Good building!
Bill Naumuk
HDS Fuselage
Townville, Pa
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A picutre for all Dads on the list who have had their kids get into things they
shouldn't.
Happy New Year.
Juan
DO NOT ARCHIVE
-----Original Message-----
>From: Rich <4rcsimmons@comcast.net>
>Sent: Dec 28, 2006 10:35 AM
>To: zenith-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Screw-up
>
>Just for kicks, here is my first oops! I call it stupid Tax. We all have
>paid it! (I think!)
>
>http://ridingflyingandliving.com/ridingflyingandlivingwebpages/RFLPhotos/Zod
>oacPictures/Rudder/Rudder22.jpg
>
>
>
>Rich Simmons
>
>601 XL
>
>Tail done
>
>Wings 99%
>
>Ordered the rest of the components - ETA Mid February
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Tail spring dimensions? |
Gang:
Much thanks to all who replied to my questions about installing the .025
rudder nose skin. After some serious struggling with the .025 skin, I
ordered a .016 skin from Zenith, and will use the existing skin to make
up the tools/jigs to install the lighter one. Anyone put in a third
nose rib?
Next question - There don't seem to be any dimensions in the drawings
for the part of the thick aluminum tail spring that goes into the Matco
tailwheel bracket. It is possible to infer a *maximum* insertion
distance because of the need to clear the steering arms. But there is
no *minimum* insertion distance. Nor is it clear if you should cut the
spring down to 1.25" or 1.5", as there are channels for both in the
bracket. (If you use the 1.5" width, you would need to put a thick
spacer between the bracket and the spring to fill the stack.)
Any experience or advise on this one?
Thanks,
Andy Elliott, Mesa, AZ
N601GE (reserved)
601XL/TD/QB, Corvair, building...
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| Subject: | Re: Tail spring dimensions? |
Andy,
There are channels machined into the tailwheel
for 1.25 and 1.5" springs. Bill Massey and I have
been communicating off-list about tail spring options.
He had a spring made in the correct dimensions for a
very reasonable price locally, and I bought a cheap
spring from spruce and modified it (See archives). I
will send you the picture of my taiwheel and spring
off-list to illustrate - since the attachment was lost
in matronics. If anyone else cares about the pic,
e-mail me off-list. The insersion distance is evident
in the picture.
VR/
Brandon Tucker
601 HDS / TD / Corvair
45 hours
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| Subject: | Re: Length of Aileron Rod? |
Thanks all..
Yes we just eyed it off neutral and removed 20 mm of the shaft. [Shocked] but
it would be real nice if Zenith had a total center to center length.
Chris..
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| Subject: | does this need vg's? |
WOULD YOU FLY ON THIS ?
Even though the Aeroscraft dwarfs the largest commercial airliners, it requires
less net space on the ground than any plane because it doesn't need a runway.
The airship takes off and lands like a helicopter: straight up and down.
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| Subject: | I messed up skinning my rudder |
Well, it seems that I was not as caerful as I thought when skinning my
rudder. There is a twist... or it is flat on one side. I had the 3/4 in
block under the trailing edge, but it didn't turn out correctly. One side
is flat, and the trailing edge is up 1 1/2 in on the flip side.
Is this critical? What would be the issue with using the rudder as is, or
do I need to order a new rudder?
Thanks
Jon
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| Subject: | Stick a fork in me- I'm done |
A lot of work but it looks to me that it will pay off.
Noel
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bill Naumuk
Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2006 7:18 PM
Subject: Zenith-List: Stick a fork in me- I'm done
All-
I told myself that today was the last day I was going to polish the
c-section. There are still parts to cut undersize and holes to drill
where
they don't belong- this finish work doesn't suit me.
What you see is what 50 hrs of farting around will get you.
According to
Ron at Nuvite, I can plan on at least another pass with grade S, maybe
one
of C, too to get rid of shop rash. He doesn't know the kind of shop rash
I
have to deal with. More like a gallon of body putty and a major rebuild!
I WILL start on the rear fuse before vacation is over. I think I
can, I
think I can.....
Good building!
Bill Naumuk
HDS Fuselage
Townville, Pa
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Noel
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of NYTerminat
Sent: Friday, December 29, 2006 12:07 AM
Subject: Zenith-List: does this need vg's?
WOULD YOU FLY ON THIS ?
Even though the Aeroscraft dwarfs the largest commercial airliners, it
requires less net space on the ground than any plane because it doesn't
need
a runway. The airship takes off and lands like a helicopter: straight up
and
down.
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| Subject: | Re: Stiff rudder nose skins? |
I scratch built the entire rudder from .025" instead of the .016 specified
(with ZAC's permission of course). The whole thing went together with no problems
whatsoever, and looks IMMENSELY better than the original .016" version
(I built both). The biggest benefit I found was that any miss-shapen ribs will
confrom to the skin, rather than the other way around. It gives the rudder
a much smoother look, at the expense of about 1 pound total weight.
As I understand it, your problem is that the Nose Skin is under-bent, and
therefore tends to spring outward when slipped under the Trailing Edge Skin?
There are two things that will help: Duct Tape and a 2X4. Use the duct tape
judiciously to hold the Nose Skin in position while drilling. The 2X4 is used
to apply EVEN pressure on the Nose Skin while you coax the bend to the correct
angle (i.e.: Squish the thing a little bit more). If I've made things more
confusing, feel free to contact me off-list for a better description of what
I'm talking about.
"Dr. Andrew Elliott" <a.s.elliott@cox.net> wrote: BODY { BACKGROUND-POSITION:
left top; MARGIN-TOP: 10px; FONT-SIZE: 11pt; MARGIN-LEFT: 10px; COLOR: #000000;
BACKGROUND-REPEAT: no-repeat; FONT-FAMILY: Courier New } I received a
QB TD kit with the rudder nose skin made from .025 instead of .016. Anyone out
there successfully built a rudder with this thickness nose skin? How did
you get the skin in place and held under the rear skin to drill it? Unlike the
.016, the .025 skin is *very* stiff and will not bend very much by hand. Did
you have to make some special jigs?
Quick reply direct also would be appreciated, if possible, as I only receive
the digest.
Thanks,
Andy Elliott, Mesa, AZ
N601GE (reserved)
601XL/TD/QB, Corvair, building...
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Sorry, the file got clipped. Go to http://www.popsci.com/popsci/whatsnew/18ac893302839010vgnvcm1000004eecbccdrcrd.html
-----Original Message-----
From: noelloveys@yahoo.ca
Sent: Fri, 29 Dec 2006 12:04 AM
Subject: RE: Zenith-List: does this need vg's?
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-----Original Message-----
From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of NYTerminat
Sent: Friday, December 29, 2006 12:07 AM
Subject: Zenith-List: does this need vg's?
WOULD YOU FLY ON THIS ?
Even though the Aeroscraft dwarfs the largest commercial airliners, it requires
less net space on the ground than any plane because it doesn't need a runway.
The airship takes off and lands like a helicopter: straight up and down.
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| Subject: | SORT OF AIRCRAFT RELATED |
I'M JUST SITTING HERE AT THE COMPUTER TAKING A BREAK FROM DRILLING HOLES
AND GOT TO THINKING ABOUT ALL THE VARIOUS KINDS OF PEOPLE THAT ARE
BUILDING, WANT TO BUILD, OR ARE FLYING ZAC PLANES. I'M CURIOUS. WHAT DO
ALL YOU PEOPLE DO FOR A LIVING? I'M A COMMERCIAL PAINTING CONTRACTOR IN
OREGON. OF COURSE YOU CAN DELETE ME FOR ASKING AND MAYBE IT'S NONE OF
MY BUSINESS, BUT THEN THAT'S WHAT THAT KEY IS FOR. THOUGHT IT MIGHT BE
INTERESTING TO KNOW.
DAVE IN SALEM
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| Subject: | Re: SORT OF AIRCRAFT RELATED |
I am a part time police officer and full time correctional officer for the
State of Oregon. And I am currently building a 601XL. Hope to be flying by
the end of summer.
Larry Husky
Lakeview, Oregon
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| Subject: | SORT OF AIRCRAFT RELATED |
I'm a computer programmer specializing in embedded microprocessors. Are you
sorry you asked? :-)
-- Craig Payne
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| Subject: | Re: SORT OF AIRCRAFT RELATED |
Interesting question, I thought about this also. My father and I build toge
ther most of the time, and when a problem arises I think, "there has to be
a way...other people figure it out." And he always replies with, "Most of t
he people that build these things work in the a/c industry or have been aro
und it forever!" "We will be lucky too finish this project!" (sometimes he
is not a very positive) :) So far my father and I more less "assembled" a
Challenger that has been flying for 220 hours now. And now,this is our 2nd
project. By the way... my wife and I are both RN's! Talk about a learni
ng curve!! =0A =0AMichael=0A=0A=0A----- Original Message ----=0AFrom: Dave
Ruddiman <pacificpainting@comcast.net>=0ATo: zenith-list@matronics.com=0AS
ent: Friday, December 29, 2006 12:08:32 AM=0ASubject: Zenith-List: SORT OF
AIRCRAFT RELATED=0A=0A=0AI'M JUST SITTING HERE AT THE COMPUTER TAKING A BRE
AK FROM DRILLING HOLES AND GOT TO THINKING ABOUT ALL THE VARIOUS KINDS OF P
EOPLE THAT ARE BUILDING, WANT TO BUILD, OR ARE FLYING ZAC PLANES. I'M CURIO
US. WHAT DO ALL YOU PEOPLE DO FOR A LIVING? I'M A COMMERCIAL PAINTING CONTR
ACTOR IN OREGON. OF COURSE YOU CAN DELETE ME FOR ASKING AND MAYBE IT'S NON
E OF MY BUSINESS, BUT THEN THAT'S WHAT THAT KEY IS FOR. THOUGHT IT MIGHT BE
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| Subject: | Re: SORT OF AIRCRAFT RELATED |
Happy Holidays Dave! I'm also swimming in Oregon. I'm starting to think I
should be building a boat instead of a plane!
I head the CAD/CAM department of a precision sheet metal fabricator, and am
just starting a precision robotics (CNC Routers and Plasma Cutters) business
on the side. This homebuilder thing has been right up my alley, and the 601XL
has turned out to be a great machine to cut my teeth on.
How about the rest of you aviators out there?
Dave Ruddiman <pacificpainting@comcast.net> wrote: I'M JUST SITTING HERE
AT THE COMPUTER TAKING A BREAK FROM DRILLING HOLES AND GOT TO THINKING ABOUT
ALL THE VARIOUS KINDS OF PEOPLE THAT ARE BUILDING, WANT TO BUILD, OR ARE FLYING
ZAC PLANES. I'M CURIOUS. WHAT DO ALL YOU PEOPLE DO FOR A LIVING? I'M A COMMERCIAL
PAINTING CONTRACTOR IN OREGON. OF COURSE YOU CAN DELETE ME FOR ASKING
AND MAYBE IT'S NONE OF MY BUSINESS, BUT THEN THAT'S WHAT THAT KEY IS FOR. THOUGHT
IT MIGHT BE INTERESTING TO KNOW.
DAVE IN SALEM
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