---------------------------------------------------------- Zenith-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sat 01/06/07: 23 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 07:03 AM - CH 801 drawing list for jigs (C Smith) 2. 07:27 AM - Re: Re: Sensenich Composite Propeller (Rich) 3. 07:43 AM - Re: Where to put ELT? (Rich) 4. 07:43 AM - Canopy fitting, etc. (Bill Naumuk) 5. 08:43 AM - Re: A little off topic (R.P.) 6. 10:16 AM - Re: A little off topic (Bill Naumuk) 7. 10:54 AM - Re: Canopy fitting, etc. (Ron Lalonde) 8. 11:20 AM - Re: Corvair Engine - 1964 vs 65-69...? (Ron Lalonde) 9. 12:28 PM - Re: Key switch info (Clive Richards) 10. 01:14 PM - Dimensions of CH701 (Ken Arnold) 11. 01:48 PM - Posting Categorization - was Canopy fitting, etc. (OK2AV8@aol.com) 12. 02:23 PM - Re: Dimensions of CH701 (Rick R) 13. 02:39 PM - Re: Posting Categorization - was Canopy fitting, etc. (Bill Naumuk) 14. 02:55 PM - Re: Dimensions of CH701 (LarryMcFarland) 15. 03:24 PM - Re: CH 801 drawing list for jigs (Dave Ruddiman) 16. 03:39 PM - Re: CH 801 drawing list for jigs (Dave Ruddiman) 17. 03:41 PM - Re: Canopy fitting, etc. (ZodieRocket) 18. 04:17 PM - Re: Canopy fitting, etc. (Bill Naumuk) 19. 04:47 PM - Re: Canopy fitting, etc. (ZodieRocket) 20. 05:05 PM - Re: Dimensions of CH701 (Richard Cottingham) 21. 05:17 PM - Fw: Dimensions of CH701 (Richard Cottingham) 22. 06:35 PM - Re: Dimensions of CH701 (Ken Arnold) 23. 09:34 PM - Re: A little off topic (Ron Lendon) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 07:03:29 AM PST US From: "C Smith" Subject: Zenith-List: CH 801 drawing list for jigs This is probably a pretty tough request, but any one with CH 801 experience know which drawings have jig patterns, and or are the jigs supplied with the kit or builder fabricated? I just wanted to get a head start on jigs, if the components are not supplied with the kits. Thanks Craig Smith ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 07:27:01 AM PST US From: "Rich" <4rcsimmons@comcast.net> Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Re: Sensenich Composite Propeller I am curious! How does the Altitude Compensating Carb. function? Where can I go to understand how it makes the adjustments? Thanks, Rich Simmons 601 xl ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 07:43:47 AM PST US From: "Rich" <4rcsimmons@comcast.net> Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Where to put ELT? Sorry list! I read further and have an explanation on the carbs. Thanks, Rich Do not archive ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 07:43:47 AM PST US From: "Bill Naumuk" Subject: Zenith-List: Canopy fitting, etc. All- The ability to add pictures to posts has greatly increased the value of the list. The problem with the archives is that all the necessary information to complete a task is dispersed. I'm just as guilty as anyone when it comes to sharing progress real-time, but I've noticed a number of complete "Technical Reports" in the past few months such as Eric's that give all the information to complete a complex task in one location. (The Home Depot bending brake, Gary Boothe's flanging dies, my procedure for installing HDS gearbox bolts and God knows how many more buried in the great archive dumpster). Creation and posting of these compilations is the greatest contribution a lister can make, but everyone else is at a loss as to how to easily retrieve them from the archives. I save them in a personal "Keepers" file, but I trust the Matronics database more than my hard drive.Thus, my suggestion: Matt, could you create a file for Technical Reports and assign a posting password? In other words, when a lister like Eric posts his compilation he types at the bottom, say, "TR Archive-Canopy" (Sort of on the same lines as "Do not archive")? Then, listers would have easy access to complete procedures. It wouldn't hurt to make this applicable to existing archive files. If someone comes across one of these posting gems while rummaging through the dumpster, he can make it easily accessable. What do you think, people? Bill Naumuk HDS Fuselage Townville, Pa ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 08:43:08 AM PST US From: "R.P." Subject: Re: Zenith-List: A little off topic I built the HD instead of the XL, and I had a wing kit to start with so I didn't have to scratch build EVERYTHING... It took about 1200 hours over a period of 14 months to fabricate the rest of the parts, assemble, and test the airplane. Rick Pitcher N601ZR ----- Original Message ----- From: "Clyde Barcus" Sent: Friday, January 05, 2007 5:07 AM Subject: Zenith-List: A little off topic As the hours continue to climb building my 601 XL from plans I can't help but wonder how long it takes the average guy. I think it would be great to know how long it actually took the average builder to build an XL, would those of you that have completed your project please post your build time? Clyde Barcus 601 XL, Corvair Powered Wings, Tail & Engine Complete Working on Fuselage ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 10:16:45 AM PST US From: "Bill Naumuk" Subject: Re: Zenith-List: A little off topic Clyde- I'm at between 800-1000 hrs on an HDS and polishing everything in sight (Literally) before starting my fuse. do not archive Bill Naumuk HDS Fuselage Townville, Pa ----- Original Message ----- From: "R.P." Sent: Saturday, January 06, 2007 11:42 AM Subject: Re: Zenith-List: A little off topic > > I built the HD instead of the XL, and I had a wing kit to start with so I > didn't have to scratch build EVERYTHING... > It took about 1200 hours over a period of 14 months to fabricate the rest > of the parts, assemble, and test the airplane. > > Rick Pitcher > N601ZR > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Clyde Barcus" > To: > Sent: Friday, January 05, 2007 5:07 AM > Subject: Zenith-List: A little off topic > > > As the hours continue to climb building my 601 XL from plans I can't help > but wonder how long it takes the average guy. I think it would be great to > know how long it actually took the average builder to build an XL, would > those of you that have completed your project please post your build time? > > > Clyde Barcus > 601 XL, Corvair Powered > Wings, Tail & Engine Complete > Working on Fuselage > > > ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 10:54:58 AM PST US From: "Ron Lalonde" Subject: RE: Zenith-List: Canopy fitting, etc. Great idea Bill. I saved Erics instructions for canopy fitting, as I am sure many on the list did as well. Like you stated, there are many more excellent "Technical Reports" that would be so helpful...if they could be more easily accessed. You fellas are great assets to us inexperience builders.!!!!!! Ron Lalonde Debert, Nova Scotia, Canada >All- > The ability to add pictures to posts has greatly increased the value >of the list. The problem with the archives is that all the necessary >information to complete a task is dispersed. I'm just as guilty as anyone >when it comes to sharing progress real-time, but I've noticed a number of >complete "Technical Reports" in the past few months such as Eric's that >give all the information to complete a complex task in one location. (The >Home Depot bending brake, Gary Boothe's flanging dies, my procedure for >installing HDS gearbox bolts and God knows how many more buried in the >great archive dumpster). > Creation and posting of these compilations is the greatest >contribution a lister can make, but everyone else is at a loss as to how to >easily retrieve them from the archives. I save them in a personal "Keepers" >file, but I trust the Matronics database more than my hard drive.Thus, my >suggestion: > Matt, could you create a file for Technical Reports and assign a >posting password? In other words, when a lister like Eric posts his >compilation he types at the bottom, say, "TR Archive-Canopy" (Sort of on >the same lines as "Do not archive")? Then, listers would have easy access >to complete procedures. It wouldn't hurt to make this applicable to >existing archive files. If someone comes across one of these posting gems >while rummaging through the dumpster, he can make it easily accessable. > What do you think, people? > >Bill Naumuk >HDS Fuselage >Townville, Pa _________________________________________________________________ Your opinion matters. Please tell us what you think and be entered into a draw for a grand prize of $500 or one of 20 $50 cash prizes. http://www.youthographyinsiders.com/R.aspx?a=116 ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 11:20:04 AM PST US From: "Ron Lalonde" Subject: RE: Zenith-List: Corvair Engine - 1964 vs 65-69...? Hi Patrick If you are considering the Corvair engine I would strongly suggest that you purchase William Wynnes conversion manual. It will give you all the information you require to make educated decisions, including all the information required to complete the engine and purchasing parts etc. If you have any questions William is unbelievably helpful. Go to his website www.flycorvair.com and have a look. In my opinion (for what it is worth) the Corvair is a viable option mainly due to the excellent builder support that is available. Ron Lalonde Debert, Nova Scotia, Canada >The idea of building my own engine for my 601XL appeals to me, and I am >considering the Corvair. > >The question I have (for those who have actually built or are building a >Corvair engine) is: > >Is there a really good reason to pass up a 1964 year engine, assuming it's >164 CI and has the correct crankshaft...? > >Through my research, I have been told that 1.7 million Corvair engines were >produced. While technically true, that is slightly misleading. According >to CORSA (source: http://www.corvair.org/vairproduction.php ), most of >those 1.7 million were between 1960-1964. Less than 400,000 were made >after 1964, and only 6,000 were made in 1969 (the last year of production). > >Hence my dilemma. I'm finding 1964 engines out there. I'm having zero >luck finding anything newer within a days driving distance. > >Should I go with a 1964, or wait and keep looking for the less common >1965-69...? > >Thoughts? > >- Patrick > > >Read this topic online here: > >http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=85751#85751 > > _________________________________________________________________ Share your opinion and enter to win! Please complete this survey to enter into a draw for a grand prize of $500 or one of twenty $50 cash prizes. http://www.youthographyinsiders.com/R.aspx?a=116 ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 12:28:26 PM PST US From: "Clive Richards" Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Key switch info Hi Aaron Sorry for delay in reply actually found weather fit to fly Friday afternoon. Beware if you have a Bendix or A C S switch for confusion there are two terminals marked GRD which are not connected together. For Rays 0 200 the connections we have used are as follows, he has 2 impulse coupled mags fitted. BAT + supply S to starter solenoid coil grd To screen of cables to left & right Mag Both screens are earthed at the Mags. R Core to Right Mag (R connected to grd in Off & Left Mag position) L Core to Left Mag (L connected to grd in Off & Right Mag Position) If you only have one impulse coupler on left Mag then Link R to GRD (other ground terminal) [this GRD terminal is connected to other grd terminal when switch is in start position] I did have drawing of back of switch but it must be in hanger so you will have to check which GRD terminal is which is which with a meter. I believe I got the circuit From Aeroelectric book. The switch manufacturers also recommend you fit a discharge diode across the starter solenoid coil, one was supplied with a new switch we bought to replace an old one we found had a intermittent start contact. As others have pointed out the other terminals are for vibrator retarded starting of which I have no knowledge and is a very old system. Ray Lasniers G CBDG 601 HD 56 Hrs ----- Original Message ----- From: "Aaron Gustafson" Sent: Friday, January 05, 2007 12:19 AM Subject: Zenith-List: Key switch info > > > I need some help! I have a used aircraft key switch to use on my 0-200 > set up but can't understand the terminals on the back. I understand the > BAT, GRD and S terminals. The L and R are the mag kill conections. But > does anyone know what the LR, PR, and BO terminals are for? I have tried > to check it with an ohmeter and they don't conect to the BAT ever. If you > have a Duel mag setup, you've probably seen this. Help! > > Aaron Gustafson > > > > ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 01:14:12 PM PST US From: "Ken Arnold" Subject: Zenith-List: Dimensions of CH701 Listers, Can someone provide the length of CH701 with tail removed? I need to get a trailer long enough to haul a completed airframe with tail and wings removed. Many thanks, Ken Arnold CH701 build started ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 01:48:54 PM PST US From: OK2AV8@aol.com Subject: Zenith-List: Posting Categorization - was Canopy fitting, etc. I agree, good idea, Bill (Naumuk). In addition to "Technical Reports", how about "Flight Test" or "Flight Report". Sure, we could get out of hand pretty quick with these sub-categorization but these two would cover 96.25% of the good stuff. Tim Garrett N360TM XL + 3300 - 10 hours do not archive ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 02:23:41 PM PST US From: Rick R Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Dimensions of CH701 Ken, I don't know about you're engine, but from my prop hub to the back is almost 18'. Ken Arnold wrote: Listers, Can someone provide the length of CH701 with tail removed? I need to get a trailer long enough to haul a completed airframe with tail and wings removed. Many thanks, Ken Arnold CH701 build started Rick Sharpsburg, GA. USA http://www.n701rr.com ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 02:39:42 PM PST US From: "Bill Naumuk" Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Posting Categorization - was Canopy fitting, etc. Tim- Your suggestion is the type of input we need. Keep it up, everyone. Bill Naumuk HDS Fuselage Townville, Pa ----- Original Message ----- From: OK2AV8@aol.com To: zenith-list@matronics.com Sent: Saturday, January 06, 2007 4:47 PM Subject: Zenith-List: Posting Categorization - was Canopy fitting, etc. I agree, good idea, Bill (Naumuk). In addition to "Technical Reports", how about "Flight Test" or "Flight Report". Sure, we could get out of hand pretty quick with these sub-categorization but these two would cover 96.25% of the good stuff. Tim Garrett N360TM XL + 3300 - 10 hours do not archive ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 02:55:26 PM PST US From: LarryMcFarland Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Dimensions of CH701 Hi Ken, I'd assume you're building a tri-gear, so a trailer needn't be longer than 60% the length of the plane. I had to make my bed wide enough for the gear, long enough to allow a 4 to 5 foot overhang in back and low enough to be able to pull it up and on. Wings were on their own rack and trailered separately. This trailer just fits in the right forward side of my t-hangar and is about 15 ft long hitch to tail end. It was a free-bee, but required a total rebuild of the bed and tongue. I also added a winch, a jack stand and 3 ramps. It doesn't go much past 50 mph with this arrangement, but it works well enough. http://www.macsmachine.com/images/tjh/hscentersection/full/trailerfront.gif http://www.macsmachine.com/images/tjh/hscentersection/full/trailerwinching2.gif http://www.macsmachine.com/images/tjh/hscentersection/full/trailerwplanespotted.gif http://www.macsmachine.com/images/tjh/hscentersection/full/Zenith-on-the-roadh.jpg http://www.macsmachine.com/images/tjh/hscentersection/full/zenith-to-airport.jpg If you need specific data and dimensions, I can take notes and get them. Don't think the 701 has a radically different gear footprint from a 601 HDS. Larry McFarland - 601HDS Ken Arnold wrote: > Listers, > Can someone provide the length of CH701 with tail removed? I need to > get a trailer long enough to haul a completed airframe with tail and > wings removed. > > Many thanks, > Ken Arnold > CH701 build started ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 03:24:34 PM PST US From: "Dave Ruddiman" Subject: Re: Zenith-List: CH 801 drawing list for jigs Craig, Did you buy the whole kit, or some components? When are you scheduled for delivery? I have completed the slats, flaps, rudder, right wing and am finishing the left one. Fuselage kit scheduled for delivery in 2 or 3 weeks. The only jigs you need are for the slats and rudder. I'll see if I can figure out my scanner again. Dave in Salem 801 ----- Original Message ----- From: C Smith To: zenith-list@matronics.com Sent: Saturday, January 06, 2007 7:02 AM Subject: Zenith-List: CH 801 drawing list for jigs This is probably a pretty tough request, but any one with CH 801 experience know which drawings have jig patterns, and or are the jigs supplied with the kit or builder fabricated? I just wanted to get a head start on jigs, if the components are not supplied with the kits. Thanks Craig Smith ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 03:39:30 PM PST US From: "Dave Ruddiman" Subject: Re: Zenith-List: CH 801 drawing list for jigs Craig, I forgot. You can find the rudder drawing if you go to the 801 home page and click on assembly manuals. Then go to drawing 8RU02. That is the drawing you need for the rudder cradle. They will send you a metal pattern to cut out the curve for the slat jig you need to make. Look at the slat drawings, "positioning of the skin" for the jig instructions. Let me know if I can help. Dave ----- Original Message ----- From: C Smith To: zenith-list@matronics.com Sent: Saturday, January 06, 2007 7:02 AM Subject: Zenith-List: CH 801 drawing list for jigs This is probably a pretty tough request, but any one with CH 801 experience know which drawings have jig patterns, and or are the jigs supplied with the kit or builder fabricated? I just wanted to get a head start on jigs, if the components are not supplied with the kits. Thanks Craig Smith ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 03:41:47 PM PST US From: "ZodieRocket" Subject: RE: Zenith-List: Canopy fitting, etc. Bill this is Exactly why HYPERLINK "http://www.ch601.org/"www.ch601.org and HYPERLINK "http://www.ch701.com/"www.ch701.com were created. Though it is nice to have them in the archives , putting these nuggets in a website that is accessible for all and organized to some degree is far more beneficial. Mark Townsend Alma, Ontario Zodiac 601XL C-GOXL, CH701 just started HYPERLINK "http://www.ch601.org"www.ch601.org / HYPERLINK "http://www.ch701.com"www.ch701.com/ HYPERLINK "http://www.Osprey2.com"www.Osprey2.com -----Original Message----- From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bill Naumuk Sent: Saturday, January 06, 2007 10:44 AM Subject: Zenith-List: Canopy fitting, etc. All- The ability to add pictures to posts has greatly increased the value of the list. The problem with the archives is that all the necessary information to complete a task is dispersed. I'm just as guilty as anyone when it comes to sharing progress real-time, but I've noticed a number of complete "Technical Reports" in the past few months such as Eric's that give all the information to complete a complex task in one location. (The Home Depot bending brake, Gary Boothe's flanging dies, my procedure for installing HDS gearbox bolts and God knows how many more buried in the great archive dumpster). Creation and posting of these compilations is the greatest contribution a lister can make, but everyone else is at a loss as to how to easily retrieve them from the archives. I save them in a personal "Keepers" file, but I trust the Matronics database more than my hard drive.Thus, my suggestion: Matt, could you create a file for Technical Reports and assign a posting password? In other words, when a lister like Eric posts his compilation he types at the bottom, say, "TR Archive-Canopy" (Sort of on the same lines as "Do not archive")? Then, listers would have easy access to complete procedures. It wouldn't hurt to make this applicable to existing archive files. If someone comes across one of these posting gems while rummaging through the dumpster, he can make it easily accessable. What do you think, people? Bill Naumuk HDS Fuselage Townville, Pa "http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Zenith-List"http://www.matronics.com /Navigator?Zenith-List "http://forums.matronics.com"http://forums.matronics.com -- 11:11 AM -- 11:11 AM ________________________________ Message 18 ____________________________________ Time: 04:17:15 PM PST US From: "Bill Naumuk" Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Canopy fitting, etc. Mark- Are they readily available through these sites? If so, I was unaware. Bill Naumuk HDS Fuselage Townville, Pa ----- Original Message ----- From: ZodieRocket To: zenith-list@matronics.com Sent: Saturday, January 06, 2007 6:31 PM Subject: RE: Zenith-List: Canopy fitting, etc. Bill this is Exactly why www.ch601.org and www.ch701.com were created. Though it is nice to have them in the archives , putting these nuggets in a website that is accessible for all and organized to some degree is far more beneficial. Mark Townsend Alma, Ontario Zodiac 601XL C-GOXL, CH701 just started www.ch601.org / www.ch701.com/ www.Osprey2.com -----Original Message----- From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bill Naumuk Sent: Saturday, January 06, 2007 10:44 AM To: zenith-list@matronics.com Subject: Zenith-List: Canopy fitting, etc. All- The ability to add pictures to posts has greatly increased the value of the list. The problem with the archives is that all the necessary information to complete a task is dispersed. I'm just as guilty as anyone when it comes to sharing progress real-time, but I've noticed a number of complete "Technical Reports" in the past few months such as Eric's that give all the information to complete a complex task in one location. (The Home Depot bending brake, Gary Boothe's flanging dies, my procedure for installing HDS gearbox bolts and God knows how many more buried in the great archive dumpster). Creation and posting of these compilations is the greatest contribution a lister can make, but everyone else is at a loss as to how to easily retrieve them from the archives. I save them in a personal "Keepers" file, but I trust the Matronics database more than my hard drive.Thus, my suggestion: Matt, could you create a file for Technical Reports and assign a posting password? In other words, when a lister like Eric posts his compilation he types at the bottom, say, "TR Archive-Canopy" (Sort of on the same lines as "Do not archive")? Then, listers would have easy access to complete procedures. It wouldn't hurt to make this applicable to existing archive files. If someone comes across one of these posting gems while rummaging through the dumpster, he can make it easily accessable. What do you think, people? Bill Naumuk HDS Fuselage Townville, Pa - The Zenith-List Email Forum - --> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Zenith-List - NEW MATRONICS WEB FORUMS - --> http://forums.matronics.com -- 11:11 AM -- 11:11 AM ________________________________ Message 19 ____________________________________ Time: 04:47:56 PM PST US From: "ZodieRocket" Subject: RE: Zenith-List: Canopy fitting, etc. Though, I=92m not as fast as I used to be if I get sent anything sent to me I upload it to the websites. Sometimes I go after pieces and ask for permission but as a rule most people send them to me ahead of time. The Canopy installation is in the Builders Resources section under Zodiac 601. For everyone else please send flight or building stories and helpful tips for the websites. Mark Townsend Alma, Ontario Zodiac 601XL C-GOXL, CH701 just started HYPERLINK "http://www.ch601.org"www.ch601.org / HYPERLINK "http://www.ch701.com"www.ch701.com/ HYPERLINK "http://www.Osprey2.com"www.Osprey2.com -----Original Message----- From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bill Naumuk Sent: Saturday, January 06, 2007 7:16 PM Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Canopy fitting, etc. Mark- Are they readily available through these sites? If so, I was unaware. Bill Naumuk HDS Fuselage Townville, Pa ----- Original Message ----- From: HYPERLINK "mailto:zodierocket@hsfx.ca"ZodieRocket "mailto:zenith-list@matronics.com"zenith-list@matronics.com Sent: Saturday, January 06, 2007 6:31 PM Subject: RE: Zenith-List: Canopy fitting, etc. Bill this is Exactly why HYPERLINK "http://www.ch601.org"www.ch601.org and HYPERLINK "http://www.ch701.com"www.ch701.com were created. Though it is nice to have them in the archives , putting these nuggets in a website that is accessible for all and organized to some degree is far more beneficial. Mark Townsend Alma, Ontario Zodiac 601XL C-GOXL, CH701 just started HYPERLINK "http://www.ch601.org"www.ch601.org / HYPERLINK "http://www.ch701.com"www.ch701.com/ HYPERLINK "http://www.Osprey2.com"www.Osprey2.com -----Original Message----- From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bill Naumuk Sent: Saturday, January 06, 2007 10:44 AM Subject: Zenith-List: Canopy fitting, etc. All- The ability to add pictures to posts has greatly increased the value of the list. The problem with the archives is that all the necessary information to complete a task is dispersed. I'm just as guilty as anyone when it comes to sharing progress real-time, but I've noticed a number of complete "Technical Reports" in the past few months such as Eric's that give all the information to complete a complex task in one location. (The Home Depot bending brake, Gary Boothe's flanging dies, my procedure for installing HDS gearbox bolts and God knows how many more buried in the great archive dumpster). Creation and posting of these compilations is the greatest contribution a lister can make, but everyone else is at a loss as to how to easily retrieve them from the archives. I save them in a personal "Keepers" file, but I trust the Matronics database more than my hard drive.Thus, my suggestion: Matt, could you create a file for Technical Reports and assign a posting password? In other words, when a lister like Eric posts his compilation he types at the bottom, say, "TR Archive-Canopy" (Sort of on the same lines as "Do not archive")? Then, listers would have easy access to complete procedures. It wouldn't hurt to make this applicable to existing archive files. If someone comes across one of these posting gems while rummaging through the dumpster, he can make it easily accessable. What do you think, people? Bill Naumuk HDS Fuselage Townville, Pa - The Zenith-List Email Forum - --> HYPERLINK "http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Zenith-List"http://www.matronics.com /Navigator?Zenith-List - NEW MATRONICS WEB FORUMS - --> HYPERLINK "http://forums.matronics.com"http://forums.matronics.com -- 11:11 AM -- 11:11 AM href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Zenith-List">http://www.matron h ref="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com "http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Zenith-List"http://www.matronics.com /Navigator?Zenith-List "http://forums.matronics.com"http://forums.matronics.com -- 11:11 AM -- 11:11 AM ________________________________ Message 20 ____________________________________ Time: 05:05:48 PM PST US From: "Richard Cottingham" Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Dimensions of CH701 Ken 19 ft overall,with no prop ,rudder and horizontal stabiliser. Maybe other 701's would be longer. My unit is powered by a Subaru EA 81 .The rear of the motor is only about 4 inch's from the nose gear assembly. Hope that helps Regards Richard Perth Australia mrd at wn.com.au [Still building] Ken Arnold To: Zenith List Sent: Sunday, January 07, 2007 6:12 AM Subject: Zenith-List: Dimensions of CH701 Listers, Can someone provide the length of CH701 with tail removed? I need to get a trailer long enough to haul a completed airframe with tail and wings removed. Many thanks, Ken Arnold CH701 build started do not archive ________________________________ Message 21 ____________________________________ Time: 05:17:38 PM PST US From: "Richard Cottingham" Subject: Fw: Zenith-List: Dimensions of CH701 Dimensions of CH701 Ken 19 ft overall,with no prop ,rudder and horizontal stabiliser. Maybe other 701's would be longer. My unit is powered by a Subaru EA 81 .The rear of the motor is only about 4 inch's from the nose gear assembly. Hope that helps Regards Richard Perth Australia mrd at wn.com.au [Still building] Ken Arnold To: Zenith List Sent: Sunday, January 07, 2007 6:12 AM Subject: Zenith-List: Dimensions of CH701 Listers, Can someone provide the length of CH701 with tail removed? I need to get a trailer long enough to haul a completed airframe with tail and wings removed. Many thanks, Ken Arnold CH701 build started do not archive ________________________________ Message 22 ____________________________________ Time: 06:35:00 PM PST US From: "Ken Arnold" Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Dimensions of CH701 Richard, Many thanks. I will get a 20' trailer. I will have a Rotax 912S mounted. Regards, Ken do not archive ----- Original Message ----- From: Richard Cottingham To: List Sent: Saturday, January 06, 2007 8:05 PM Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Dimensions of CH701 Ken 19 ft overall,with no prop ,rudder and horizontal stabiliser. Maybe other 701's would be longer. My unit is powered by a Subaru EA 81 .The rear of the motor is only about 4 inch's from the nose gear assembly. Hope that helps Regards Richard Perth Australia mrd at wn.com.au [Still building] Ken Arnold To: Zenith List Sent: Sunday, January 07, 2007 6:12 AM Subject: Zenith-List: Dimensions of CH701 Listers, Can someone provide the length of CH701 with tail removed? I need to get a trailer long enough to haul a completed airframe with tail and wings removed. Many thanks, Ken Arnold CH701 build started do not archive ________________________________ Message 23 ____________________________________ Time: 09:34:01 PM PST US Subject: Zenith-List: Re: A little off topic From: "Ron Lendon" Not done yet but here is what I have so far. Planning 20hrs Empennage 201 Engine 37 Facilities 100 Miscellaneous 10 Tools 100 Wings 404 Total to date 872 Received the plans in mid October 2005 and have been keeping a daily log of time and activities. I am working on skinning the first, Left wing, but all ribs and spars are made and set for both wings. I make both left and right parts when I can. Figure I have another year to go. -------- Ron Lendon, Clinton Township, MI Corvair Zodiac XL, ScrapBuilder ;-) http://www.mykitlog.com/rlendon Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=85978#85978 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message zenith-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Zenith-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/zenith-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/zenith-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.