---------------------------------------------------------- Zenith-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Fri 01/19/07: 15 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 01:09 AM - Re: Off topic, kinda on topic (noel anderson) 2. 04:17 AM - Re: Re: 912 vs. 912S (MacDonald Doug) 3. 04:33 AM - Re:701 Engine Decision (Zed Smith) 4. 05:59 AM - Re: Electronic Headsets.. (John and Kim Lumkes) 5. 06:27 AM - Re: Re: Electronic Headsets.. (VideoFlyer@aol.com) 6. 06:34 AM - Re: Off topic, kinda on topic (C Smith) 7. 06:36 AM - Re: Re:OT 701 Engine Decision (Noel Loveys) 8. 07:30 AM - Pulled the trigger on the 80hp (george.mueller@aurora.org) 9. 08:28 AM - Removing rivets (Dr. Andrew Elliott) 10. 09:07 AM - Re: OT 701 Engine Decision (Gig Giacona) 11. 09:32 AM - Re: Re:701 Engine Decision () 12. 12:53 PM - Re: Re: OT 701 Engine Decision (Noel Loveys) 13. 02:25 PM - Re: Pulled the trigger on the 80hp (Geoff Heap) 14. 06:01 PM - Re: Re: Electronic Headsets.. (Tim Shankland) 15. 07:15 PM - Re: Removing rivets (Ron Lendon) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 01:09:40 AM PST US From: "noel anderson" Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Off topic, kinda on topic Hi Team. Don't you just love it...............sent this to all the Jet Jockies I know. Fly Safe & sober....... Noel ----- Original Message ----- From: RURUNY@aol.com To: zenith-list@matronics.com Sent: Friday, January 19, 2007 4:03 PM Subject: Zenith-List: Off topic, kinda on topic A classic. http://www.youtube.com/v/J3UDCoQnXjA ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 04:17:25 AM PST US From: MacDonald Doug Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Re: 912 vs. 912S I figured I would weigh in with my thinking on this subject as well. Firstly, keep in mind that I am not flying yet, I am still building. Right from the start of my 701 project I figured that I would either go with a good used 912UL or a new 912ULS. My hope was that I would find a deal on a used 80 hp engine that would be too good to pass up. Failing that, if I had to go brand new, the couple of thousand dollars difference in price would be well worth it for the 100hp 912ULS. I did find a pretty good deal on a 912UL. It was from a CH-701 wrecked in a landing accident. It also came with a bunch of additional parts like a basic panel and a repairable cowl. I'm quite happy with the deal so far but the engine is not installed and running on my plane yet. The final financial test will be once everything is installed and running. Will the 80hp engine be my permanent choice? I don't know. I am planning on going with floats at some point so I might eventually install a 100hp engine. I'll deal with this when I get there. It won't likely be for several additional years. Doug MacDonald NW Ontario, Canada CH-701 Scratch Builder Working on forward fuse skins Need a quick answer? Get one in minutes from people who know. Ask your question on www.Answers.yahoo.com ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 04:33:06 AM PST US From: Zed Smith Subject: Zenith-List: Re:701 Engine Decision Dan, One of the laws of physics....actually one that is more important than all the others is that ALL wives prefer a larger engine. Excellent decision. Regards, Zed/701/912/etc/etc/do not archive ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 05:59:23 AM PST US From: "John and Kim Lumkes" Subject: Zenith-List: Re: Electronic Headsets.. These electronic headsets are not noise cancelling, they simply cut out the noise when it exceeds a certain level. There is a microphone on the outside of the earmuff and small speakers inside. When the noise level is exceeded, the circuitry cuts out the mic and they act like an normal ear muff. For $10 they work great, probably not much good for flying, but instead for things like target shooting where a sudden noise might be damaging to your ears and yet you would like to be able to hear the people around you during "normal" noise levels. John ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 06:27:06 AM PST US From: VideoFlyer@aol.com Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Re: Electronic Headsets.. <<<<>>>> Ah...that explains it! Thanks for your explanation. Interesting idea...not sure if it would work well in an airplane, though. Thanks, John. Dave ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 06:34:20 AM PST US From: "C Smith" Subject: RE: Zenith-List: Off topic, kinda on topic Thanks for sharing that, I just about peed my pants. Foster has to be one of the funniest people ever. 8>D CS Do not archive _____ From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of RURUNY@aol.com Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2007 10:03 PM Subject: Zenith-List: Off topic, kinda on topic A classic. http://www.youtube.com/v/J3UDCoQnXjA ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 06:36:32 AM PST US From: "Noel Loveys" Subject: RE: Zenith-List: Re:OT 701 Engine Decision You haven't seen the television program, "Home Repairs", with Tim Allen have you???? Grunt! Noel Do not archive. > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Zed Smith > Sent: Friday, January 19, 2007 9:02 AM > To: zenith-list@matronics.com > Subject: Zenith-List: Re:701 Engine Decision > > > > Dan, > > One of the laws of physics....actually one that is more > important than all the others is that ALL wives prefer a > larger engine. > > Excellent decision. > > Regards, > > Zed/701/912/etc/etc/do not archive > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 07:30:47 AM PST US Subject: Zenith-List: Pulled the trigger on the 80hp From: george.mueller@aurora.org Based on feedback from the list, I ended up placing an order with Lockwood for the 80 hp 912. I agonized over this because with the 912S you get almost a free extra 20 horsepower, just a bit more acquisition cost and no weight penalty. But a couple of guys flying the 912S were suggesting that the 912 was a better match for the 701 based on their experience and their logic was convincing to me. George in Milwaukee ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 08:28:14 AM PST US From: "Dr. Andrew Elliott" Subject: Zenith-List: Removing rivets Gang: I needed to remove a bunch of rivets from my QB fuselage. (Why is another story...) This is a 3-step process which involves [1] punching out the mandrel, [2] drilling off the head and [3] drilling/pushing out the shop head. I modified an automatic pin punch into a one-hand tool for punching out the mandrels, so that I could do this as a 1-man job. The other hand holds a support bar behind the panel to make the punch more effective. Modification takes 5 minutes. Tool costs $4. Time and trouble saved is a *lot*. The tool is shown and discussed at: http://members.cox.net/n601ge/drawings/autopunch.html FWIW, Andy Elliott, Mesa, AZ N601GE (reserved) 601XL/TD/QB, Corvair, building... ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 09:07:03 AM PST US Subject: Zenith-List: Re: OT 701 Engine Decision From: "Gig Giacona" Close it was called "Home Improvement" NO NOT ARCHIVE -------- W.R. "Gig" Giacona 601XL Under Construction See my progress at www.peoamerica.net/N601WR Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=88887#88887 ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 09:32:26 AM PST US From: Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Re:701 Engine Decision And don't forget that water cooled engines will be all the rage as global warming makes air cooled engines obsolete in the near future. No better way to get a front row seat to watch the end of civilization as we know it than to be in an airplane! Ed Moody II Definitely Do Not Archive Don't Panic Either ---- Zed Smith wrote: > > Dan, > > One of the laws of physics....actually one that is more important than all the others is that ALL wives prefer a larger engine. > > Excellent decision. > > Regards, > > Zed/701/912/etc/etc/do not archive > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 12:53:24 PM PST US From: "Noel Loveys" Subject: RE: Zenith-List: Re: OT 701 Engine Decision Goes to show how much I watched it. :-) Noel Do not Archive > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of > Gig Giacona > Sent: Friday, January 19, 2007 1:37 PM > To: zenith-list@matronics.com > Subject: Zenith-List: Re: OT 701 Engine Decision > > > > Close it was called "Home Improvement" > > NO NOT ARCHIVE > > -------- > W.R. "Gig" Giacona > 601XL Under Construction > See my progress at www.peoamerica.net/N601WR > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=88887#88887 > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 02:25:06 PM PST US Subject: Zenith-List: Re: Pulled the trigger on the 80hp From: "Geoff Heap" George I made the same decision today based on this thread. I just placed my order with lockwood for a 912 80 hp. I've been real busy at work lately and have not been posting or reading the list but this morning I read of the price increase and had to make a decision. Up untill now I intended to get the 100 horse but I was swayed by the comments today and recently.....Geoff Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=88964#88964 ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 06:01:22 PM PST US From: Tim Shankland Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Re: Electronic Headsets.. That might explain the ones at Harbor Freight, but the $10.00 ones I bought actually reduce the noise. Another engineer where I work demonstrated them to me before I bought them. We stood at a place in the plant that had a noticeable air handler noise, probably in the ceiling above us, I put on the headsets first with the noise canceling turn off, no change, then I turned it on just like those $1000, Bose headsets the background noise fade away. Tim Shankland VideoFlyer@aol.com wrote: > <<<< cut out the noise when it exceeds a certain level. There is a > microphone on the outside of the earmuff and small speakers inside. > When the noise level is exceeded, the circuitry cuts out the mic and > they act like an normal ear muff>>>>> > > Ah...that explains it! Thanks for your explanation. Interesting > idea...not sure if it would work well in an airplane, though. > > Thanks, John. > > > > Dave > > ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 07:15:06 PM PST US Subject: Zenith-List: Re: Removing rivets From: "Ron Lendon" Now that's using you head. Feels good don't it? YOU ARE IN THE RIGHT PLACE. -------- Ron Lendon, Clinton Township, MI Corvair Zodiac XL, ScrapBuilder ;-) http://www.mykitlog.com/rlendon Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=89026#89026 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message zenith-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Zenith-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/zenith-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/zenith-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.