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1. 02:57 AM - Re: I give up! (secatur)
2. 05:40 AM - Re: Re: Lightening hole flange length (Ryan Vechinski)
3. 06:27 AM - Re: Fuselage Gussets (Wade Jones)
4. 06:39 AM - Builder Locations (ZodieRocket)
5. 07:17 AM - Re: Builder Locations (n801bh@netzero.com)
6. 08:18 AM - Re: Re: I give up! (Bill Naumuk)
7. 08:26 AM - Re: Builder Locations (Robin Bellach)
8. 08:30 AM - Re: Fuselage Gussets (Bill Naumuk)
9. 08:41 AM - Re: Re: Lightening hole flange length (Bill Naumuk)
10. 09:22 AM - Re: Builder Locations (ZodieRocket)
11. 09:24 AM - Re: Fuselage Gussets (Gary Boothe)
12. 09:43 AM - Off topic, kinda on topic (ZodieRocket)
13. 10:05 AM - Re: Fuselage Gussets (Bill Naumuk)
14. 10:11 AM - Re: Off topic, kinda on topic (Edward Moody II)
15. 10:18 AM - Re: Builder Locations (Juan Vega)
16. 10:24 AM - Re: Fuselage Gussets (Gary Boothe)
17. 11:05 AM - Re: Builder Locations (Dave Ruddiman)
18. 11:46 AM - Re: Fuselage Gussets (Bill Naumuk)
19. 01:13 PM - Wing Spar Assembly Drawing 6W3, number of hat stiffeners ? (Maarten Versteeg)
20. 01:18 PM - Re: Re: Electronic Headsets.. (Tim Verthein)
21. 01:30 PM - Re: Off topic, kinda on topic (Noel Loveys)
22. 01:57 PM - Re: Wing Spar Assembly Drawing 6W3, number of hat stiffeners ? (Terry Turnquist)
23. 02:28 PM - Re: Wing Spar Assembly Drawing 6W3, number of hat stiffeners ? (Paul Mulwitz)
24. 02:35 PM - Re: Wing Spar Assembly Drawing 6W3, number of hat stiffeners ? (Jaybannist@cs.com)
25. 02:40 PM - Re: Wing Spar Assembly Drawing 6W3, number of hat stiffeners ? (Jaybannist@cs.com)
26. 03:49 PM - Re: Re: Re: Electronic Headsets.. (Steve Hulland)
27. 04:02 PM - Annual Inspections (Rich)
28. 04:07 PM - Re: Re: Re: Electronic Headsets.. (Gary Boothe)
29. 04:20 PM - Flap Gap Stop 601XL (Tim Juhl)
30. 04:27 PM - Re: Re: Re: Electronic Headsets.. (Steve Hulland)
31. 04:28 PM - Re: Electronic Headsets.. (Gig Giacona)
32. 04:32 PM - Re: Flap Gap Stop 601XL (Gig Giacona)
33. 04:34 PM - Re: Builder Locations (n801bh@netzero.com)
34. 05:20 PM - Re: Annual Inspections (T. Graziano)
35. 05:27 PM - I'm visiting Toronto (Dave Thompson)
36. 05:28 PM - Zenith 601 XL complete kit for sale (afterfxllc@aol.com)
37. 05:47 PM - Re: I'm visiting Toronto (ZodieRocket)
38. 06:09 PM - Re: Re: Annual Inspections (LarryMcFarland)
39. 06:36 PM - Re: Electronic Headsets.. (Gary Gower)
40. 06:41 PM - Re: Re: Annual Inspections (NYTerminat@aol.com)
41. 06:44 PM - Re: More decisions about buying the Rotax 912 for my 701 (Gary Gower)
42. 08:10 PM - More questions (JohnDRead@aol.com)
43. 08:12 PM - re-fusefage gussets (Joe)
44. 08:29 PM - Re: Re: Electronic Headsets.. (Frank Stutzman)
45. 08:33 PM - Re: A new Evans Question (David X)
46. 08:59 PM - Re: More questions (Jon Croke)
47. 09:55 PM - Re: More questions (Larry Winger)
48. 11:01 PM - Re: Wing Spar Assembly Drawing 6W3, number of hat stiffeners ? (TxDave)
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Lol ! Bill...Not that it's in any way important, but in the time you have been
pre-polishing I have built the Fuse and the rudder for my 701 (89 hours total...kit
arrived on 24th Dec 2006)
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=89214#89214
Attachments:
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| Subject: | Re: Lightening hole flange length |
Thanks Dave!
I was looking only at the plans, and never looked in the construction manual.
Sorry for the trouble!
Ryan
do not archive
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> Subject: Zenith-List: Re: Lightening hole flange length
> From: dclaytx2@HOTMAIL.COM
> Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2007 13:28:11 -0800
> To: zenith-list@matronics.com
>
>
> Hey Ryan,
>
> On page 17 of the ZAC construction manual for the 601 it shows the flange depth
(note I said depth) should be 8mm. Looking at my wing ribs I'm pretty close
to that.
>
> DISCLAIMER FOR FLAMERS: THE 8MM FIGURE IS PER ZAC FLANGING DIE SPECS AND IS NOT
BASED ON MY PERSONAL OPINION.
>
> Dave Clay
> www.daves601xl.com
>
>
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=89138#89138
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| Subject: | Re: Fuselage Gussets |
Hello group ,thanks to all that replied to my question .The gussets must
have been excluded when the plans went to .025 skins . Thanks
Wade Jones South Texas
601XL plans building
Cont. 0200
----- Original Message -----
From: Wade Jones
To: zenith-list@matronics.com
Sent: Saturday, January 20, 2007 3:52 PM
Subject: Zenith-List: Fuselage Gussets
Hello group ,while reading the different sites I see mention of
several gussets in the rear fuselage .Have the plans been revised to
exclude these or am I not seeing them in my plans interpretations .
Plans Dated 03/06
Wade Jones South Texas
601XL plans building
Cont. 0200
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| Subject: | Builder Locations |
Hi Guys it has been awhile since I have mentioned HYPERLINK
"http://www.frappr.com/zenith701"http://www.frappr.com/zenith701 and
HYPERLINK
"http://www.frappr.com/zenith601"http://www.frappr.com/zenith601 Wow
has it changed in the last little while you can actually zoom down to
see houses or airports. If you have been there before have a new look ,
if your new to the list then drop by the applicable list and put in your
location.
Mark Townsend Alma, Ontario
Zodiac 601XL C-GOXL, CH701 just started
HYPERLINK "http://www.ch601.org"www.ch601.org / HYPERLINK
"http://www.ch701.com"www.ch701.com/ HYPERLINK
"http://www.Osprey2.com"www.Osprey2.com
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| Subject: | Re: Builder Locations |
Boy, are all the 801 builders gonna need therapy now,,,, Nobody loves us
anymore.. <G>
do not archive
Ben Haas
N801BH
www.haaspowerair.com
-- "ZodieRocket" <zodierocket@hsfx.ca> wrote:
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fice" />Hi Guys it has been awhile since I have mentioned http://www.fr
appr.com/zenith701 and http://www.frappr.com/zenith601 Wow has it chan
ged in the last little while you can actually zoom down to see houses or
airports. If you have been there before have a new look , if your new t
o the list then drop by the applicable list and put in your location.
Mark Townsend Alma, <?xml:namespace prefix = st1 ns = "urn:schemas-
microsoft-com:office:smarttags" />Ontario
Zodiac 601XL C-GOXL, CH701 just started
www.ch601.org / www.ch701.com/ www.Osprey2.com
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loves us anymore.. <G></P>
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e="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Hi Guys it has be
en awhile since I have <SPAN class=GramE>mentioned <SPAN style="mso-
spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></SPAN><A href="http://www.frappr.com/zeni
th701">http://www.frappr.com/zenith701</A> <SPAN style="mso-spacerun:
yes"> </SPAN>and <A href="http://www.frappr.com/zenith601">http:/
/www.frappr.com/zenith601</A> <SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </
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own to see houses or airports. If you have been there before have a new
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he applicable list and put in your location.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P
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le="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-no-proof: ye
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Experimentating is time consuming. There isn't a polished plane I know
of in a 50 mile radius, so I had few people to turn to for advice and had to
figure out a procedural sequence by trial and error. Sure, your fuse is
built, but now if you want to polish you'll be flat on your back working
uphand to get at the belly. Definitely not something to look forward to. Ask
any of the long time builders on the list- sooner or later you'll regret not
laying aside your "Schedule" to make life easier down the road. Like the old
automotive product slogan, "You can pay me now, or you can pay me later".
I haven't given up on polishing, just modified the sequence. Pre-polish
all the bottom skins but wait to assemble those that you can get to. Once
everything's riveted, you can't do much damage if you catch an edge with a
bonnet.
Most of the problems with my project can be traced to the condition my
fuse side skins were in after 4 years of storage. I've decided to rivet the
bottom skin assembly (Which is in fine shape), then cleco the sides and see
what everything looks like. If I'm dissatisfied, the Hell with it, I'll
scratchbuild new side skins.
If you pride yourself on being fast, the results often wind up
half-fast.
do not archive
Bill Naumuk
HDS Fuselage
Townville, Pa
----- Original Message -----
From: "secatur" <appraise1@bigpond.com>
Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2007 5:56 AM
Subject: Zenith-List: Re: I give up!
>
> Lol ! Bill...Not that it's in any way important, but in the time you have
> been pre-polishing I have built the Fuse and the rudder for my 701 (89
> hours total...kit arrived on 24th Dec 2006)
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=89214#89214
>
>
> Attachments:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com//files/p1010007_156.jpg
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Builder Locations |
I'd love to look at the 601 Frapper map again 'cause it's beem awhile,
but now my 'puter llliteracy has stopped me. I get the message that I
now must upgrade to Flash Player 8 or higher to view the map, but I
can't seem to get it to download. I note the message saying you may need
to click the gold bar at the top of the browser window to allow install,
but I see nothing even remotely resembling a gold bar at the top of any
IE browser window. Anyone know what I'm missing?
Do not archive.
----- Original Message -----
From: ZodieRocket
To: zenith-list@matronics.com
Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2007 8:39 AM
Subject: Zenith-List: Builder Locations
Hi Guys it has been awhile since I have mentioned
http://www.frappr.com/zenith701 and http://www.frappr.com/zenith601
Wow has it changed in the last little while you can actually zoom down
to see houses or airports. If you have been there before have a new look
, if your new to the list then drop by the applicable list and put in
your location.
Mark Townsend Alma, Ontario
Zodiac 601XL C-GOXL, CH701 just started
www.ch601.org / www.ch701.com/ www.Osprey2.com
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| Subject: | Re: Fuselage Gussets |
Jay-
Like I said, apples and oranges. Very interesting, though. I wonder if I
could retrofit .025 to my HDS in the event that I decide to replace my fuse
side skins. All 3 of my potential engine choices are heavier than a 912/914,
so W+B shouldn't be a factor. Might be worth investigating.
Zodie- have you heard anything on this subject?
do not archive
Bill Naumuk
HDS Fuselage
Townville, Pa
----- Original Message -----
From: <Jaybannist@cs.com>
Sent: Saturday, January 20, 2007 8:33 PM
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Fuselage Gussets
>
> Bill, Wade,
>
> You do NOT have to ask ZAC. They have already spoken - through their
> drawings and photo guides. According to this (current) information, an XL
> requires NO rear fuselage gussets!
>
> Jay in Dallas
> Do not archive
>
>
> "Bill Naumuk" <naumuk@alltel.net> wrote:
>
>>Wade-
>> From the list responses, looks like you have to ask Zenith.
>> do not archive
>>Bill Naumuk
>>HDS Fuselage
>>Townville, Pa
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Bill Naumuk
>> To: zenith-list@matronics.com
>> Sent: Saturday, January 20, 2007 5:24 PM
>> Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Fuselage Gussets
>>
>>
>> Wade-
>> Probably apples and oranges, but I'm right at that stage now. HDS
>> plans call for gussets at the top of the fuse sides, aligned with the L
>> angle stiffeners.
>> Bill Naumuk
>> HDS Fuselage
>> Townville, Pa
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Wade Jones
>> To: zenith-list@matronics.com
>> Sent: Saturday, January 20, 2007 4:52 PM
>> Subject: Zenith-List: Fuselage Gussets
>>
>>
>> Hello group ,while reading the different sites I see mention of
>> several gussets in the rear fuselage .Have the plans been revised to
>> exclude these or am I not seeing them in my plans interpretations . Plans
>> Dated 03/06
>> Wade Jones South Texas
>> 601XL plans building
>> Cont. 0200
>>
>>
>>href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Zenith-List">http://www.matronhref="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Lightening hole flange length |
Ryan-
You're not the only one- the old builders' manual has tripped me up more
than once. Like for pitot tube location.
Bill Naumuk
HDS Fuselage
Townville, Pa
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ryan Vechinski" <brothapig@HOTMAIL.COM>
Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2007 8:39 AM
Subject: RE: Zenith-List: Re: Lightening hole flange length
>
>
> Thanks Dave!
>
> I was looking only at the plans, and never looked in the construction
> manual. Sorry for the trouble!
>
>
> Ryan
>
> do not archive
>
>
> ----------------------------------------
>> Subject: Zenith-List: Re: Lightening hole flange length
>> From: dclaytx2@HOTMAIL.COM
>> Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2007 13:28:11 -0800
>> To: zenith-list@matronics.com
>>
>>
>> Hey Ryan,
>>
>> On page 17 of the ZAC construction manual for the 601 it shows the flange
>> depth (note I said depth) should be 8mm. Looking at my wing ribs I'm
>> pretty close to that.
>>
>> DISCLAIMER FOR FLAMERS: THE 8MM FIGURE IS PER ZAC FLANGING DIE SPECS AND
>> IS NOT BASED ON MY PERSONAL OPINION.
>>
>> Dave Clay
>> www.daves601xl.com
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Read this topic online here:
>>
>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=89138#89138
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Builder Locations |
HYPERLINK
"http://www.frappr.com/zenith701"http://www.frappr.com/zenith801
Don=92t
feel bad, there is an 801 site as well. We love you, it=92s just your so
dam big we figure you guys all talk secretly, and just didn=92t include
me!
Mark Townsend Alma, Ontario
Zodiac 601XL C-GOXL, CH801 C-FHUC , CH701 on wheels wings and tail done
OTIS
HYPERLINK "http://www.ch601.org"www.ch601.org / HYPERLINK
"http://www.ch701.com"www.ch701.com/ HYPERLINK
"http://www.Osprey2.com"www.Osprey2.com
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
n801bh@netzero.com
Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2007 10:14 AM
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Builder Locations
Boy, are all the 801 builders gonna need therapy now,,,, Nobody loves us
anymore.. <G>
do not archive
Ben Haas
N801BH
www.haaspowerair.com
-- "ZodieRocket" <zodierocket@hsfx.ca> wrote:
Hi Guys it has been awhile since I have mentioned HYPERLINK
"http://www.frappr.com/zenith701"http://www.frappr.com/zenith701 and
HYPERLINK
"http://www.frappr.com/zenith601"http://www.frappr.com/zenith601 Wow
has it changed in the last little while you can actually zoom down to
see houses or airports. If you have been there before have a new look ,
if your new to the list then drop by the applicable list and put in your
location.
Mark Townsend Alma, Ontario
Zodiac 601XL C-GOXL, CH701 just started
HYPERLINK "http://www.ch601.org/"www.ch601.org / HYPERLINK
"http://www.ch701.com/"www.ch701.com/ HYPERLINK
"http://www.osprey2.com/"www.Osprey2.com
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| Subject: | Fuselage Gussets |
Bill,
FWIW, I'm exorcising my "Get Out of Jail Free" card as a certifiable
experimenter and going with .025 skins on the fuse of my HDS.
Didn't someone recommend that awhile ago?
Gary Boothe
Cool, CA
601 HDSTD, WW Conversion 90% done,
Tail done, wings done, working on c-section
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bill Naumuk
Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2007 8:30 AM
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Fuselage Gussets
Jay-
Like I said, apples and oranges. Very interesting, though. I wonder if I
could retrofit .025 to my HDS in the event that I decide to replace my fuse
side skins. All 3 of my potential engine choices are heavier than a 912/914,
so W+B shouldn't be a factor. Might be worth investigating.
Zodie- have you heard anything on this subject?
do not archive
Bill Naumuk
HDS Fuselage
Townville, Pa
----- Original Message -----
From: <Jaybannist@cs.com>
Sent: Saturday, January 20, 2007 8:33 PM
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Fuselage Gussets
>
> Bill, Wade,
>
> You do NOT have to ask ZAC. They have already spoken - through their
> drawings and photo guides. According to this (current) information, an XL
> requires NO rear fuselage gussets!
>
> Jay in Dallas
> Do not archive
>
>
> "Bill Naumuk" <naumuk@alltel.net> wrote:
>
>>Wade-
>> From the list responses, looks like you have to ask Zenith.
>> do not archive
>>Bill Naumuk
>>HDS Fuselage
>>Townville, Pa
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Bill Naumuk
>> To: zenith-list@matronics.com
>> Sent: Saturday, January 20, 2007 5:24 PM
>> Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Fuselage Gussets
>>
>>
>> Wade-
>> Probably apples and oranges, but I'm right at that stage now. HDS
>> plans call for gussets at the top of the fuse sides, aligned with the L
>> angle stiffeners.
>> Bill Naumuk
>> HDS Fuselage
>> Townville, Pa
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Wade Jones
>> To: zenith-list@matronics.com
>> Sent: Saturday, January 20, 2007 4:52 PM
>> Subject: Zenith-List: Fuselage Gussets
>>
>>
>> Hello group ,while reading the different sites I see mention of
>> several gussets in the rear fuselage .Have the plans been revised to
>> exclude these or am I not seeing them in my plans interpretations . Plans
>> Dated 03/06
>> Wade Jones South Texas
>> 601XL plans building
>> Cont. 0200
>>
>>
>>href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Zenith-List">http://www.matronhre
f="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
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Hi Folks
Yesterday and today I have spent my time cleaning up my shop. I seem to
have gathered a vast amount of cut offs and waste aluminum, which tends
to happen to scratch builders. While I was putting all those pieces
which are too small to do anything with I was wondering Can they be
melted down and poured into a mold in which I can make something useful
like a statue of my 601 and 701? This requires a knowledge of mold
making of which I don=92t have. I don=92t want a new career in this
venture,
I just want to make some use of scrap. All opinions and advice welcome
but please respond to my personal E-Mail and not this list. Once and if
I have a working model finished I will post the how-to on HYPERLINK
"http://www.ch601.org/"www.ch601.org and HYPERLINK
"http://www.ch701.com/"www.ch701.com Please E-Mail me at HYPERLINK
"mailto:webmaster@ch601.org"webmaster@ch601.org
Mark Townsend Alma, Ontario
Zodiac 601XL C-GOXL, CH701 just started
HYPERLINK "http://www.ch601.org"www.ch601.org / HYPERLINK
"http://www.ch701.com"www.ch701.com/ HYPERLINK
"http://www.Osprey2.com"www.Osprey2.com
do not archive
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1/19/2007 4:46 PM
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| Subject: | Re: Fuselage Gussets |
Gary-
I believe Larry Mac used .020 on the fuse sides and .025 on the outboard
wings. I went with .025 on the outboards, and it's a lot easier to work
with. .020 is more expensive than either .016 or .025.
Are you exercising your get out of jail free card, or are you an
exorcist? I hope ma doesn't know you've got Linda Blair tied up in the shop!
Bill Naumuk
HDS Fuselage
Townville, Pa
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gary Boothe" <gboothe5@comcast.net>
Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2007 12:21 PM
Subject: RE: Zenith-List: Fuselage Gussets
>
> Bill,
>
> FWIW, I'm exorcising my "Get Out of Jail Free" card as a certifiable
> experimenter and going with .025 skins on the fuse of my HDS.
>
> Didn't someone recommend that awhile ago?
>
> Gary Boothe
> Cool, CA
> 601 HDSTD, WW Conversion 90% done,
> Tail done, wings done, working on c-section
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bill Naumuk
> Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2007 8:30 AM
> To: zenith-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Fuselage Gussets
>
>
> Jay-
> Like I said, apples and oranges. Very interesting, though. I wonder if
> I
>
> could retrofit .025 to my HDS in the event that I decide to replace my
> fuse
> side skins. All 3 of my potential engine choices are heavier than a
> 912/914,
>
> so W+B shouldn't be a factor. Might be worth investigating.
> Zodie- have you heard anything on this subject?
> do not archive
> Bill Naumuk
> HDS Fuselage
> Townville, Pa
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <Jaybannist@cs.com>
> To: <zenith-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Saturday, January 20, 2007 8:33 PM
> Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Fuselage Gussets
>
>
>>
>> Bill, Wade,
>>
>> You do NOT have to ask ZAC. They have already spoken - through their
>> drawings and photo guides. According to this (current) information, an
>> XL
>
>> requires NO rear fuselage gussets!
>>
>> Jay in Dallas
>> Do not archive
>>
>>
>> "Bill Naumuk" <naumuk@alltel.net> wrote:
>>
>>>Wade-
>>> From the list responses, looks like you have to ask Zenith.
>>> do not archive
>>>Bill Naumuk
>>>HDS Fuselage
>>>Townville, Pa
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: Bill Naumuk
>>> To: zenith-list@matronics.com
>>> Sent: Saturday, January 20, 2007 5:24 PM
>>> Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Fuselage Gussets
>>>
>>>
>>> Wade-
>>> Probably apples and oranges, but I'm right at that stage now. HDS
>>> plans call for gussets at the top of the fuse sides, aligned with the L
>>> angle stiffeners.
>>> Bill Naumuk
>>> HDS Fuselage
>>> Townville, Pa
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: Wade Jones
>>> To: zenith-list@matronics.com
>>> Sent: Saturday, January 20, 2007 4:52 PM
>>> Subject: Zenith-List: Fuselage Gussets
>>>
>>>
>>> Hello group ,while reading the different sites I see mention of
>>> several gussets in the rear fuselage .Have the plans been revised to
>>> exclude these or am I not seeing them in my plans interpretations .
>>> Plans
>
>>> Dated 03/06
>>> Wade Jones South Texas
>>> 601XL plans building
>>> Cont. 0200
>>>
>>>
>>>href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Zenith-List">http://www.matronhre
> f="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Off topic, kinda on topic |
Mark, do a phone book and web search for a foundry within driving
distance. If there isn't one, try dental laboratories. You may get the
help you want there.
Ed Moody II
Do Not Archive
----- Original Message -----
From: ZodieRocket
To: zenith-list@matronics.com
Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2007 11:41 AM
Subject: Zenith-List: Off topic, kinda on topic
Hi Folks
Yesterday and today I have spent my time cleaning up my shop. I seem
to have gathered a vast amount of cut offs and waste aluminum, which
tends to happen to scratch builders. While I was putting all those
pieces which are too small to do anything with I was wondering Can they
be melted down and poured into a mold in which I can make something
useful like a statue of my 601 and 701? This requires a knowledge of
mold making of which I don=92t have. I don=92t want a new career in this
venture, I just want to make some use of scrap. All opinions and advice
welcome but please respond to my personal E-Mail and not this list. Once
and if I have a working model finished I will post the how-to on
www.ch601.org and www.ch701.com Please E-Mail me at
webmaster@ch601.org
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| Subject: | Re: Builder Locations |
you probably need to upgrade from a Commodore 64 to something up to date :)
DO NOT ARCHIVE
-----Original Message-----
>From: Robin Bellach <601zv@ritternet.com>
>Sent: Jan 21, 2007 11:25 AM
>To: zenith-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Builder Locations
>
>I'd love to look at the 601 Frapper map again 'cause it's beem awhile, but now
my 'puter llliteracy has stopped me. I get the message that I now must upgrade
to Flash Player 8 or higher to view the map, but I can't seem to get it to download.
I note the message saying you may need to click the gold bar at the top
of the browser window to allow install, but I see nothing even remotely resembling
a gold bar at the top of any IE browser window. Anyone know what I'm missing?
>
>Do not archive.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: ZodieRocket
> To: zenith-list@matronics.com
> Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2007 8:39 AM
> Subject: Zenith-List: Builder Locations
>
>
> Hi Guys it has been awhile since I have mentioned http://www.frappr.com/zenith701 and http://www.frappr.com/zenith601 Wow has it changed in the last little while you can actually zoom down to see houses or airports. If you have been there before have a new look , if your new to the list then drop by the applicable list and put in your location.
>
>
>
> Mark Townsend Alma, Ontario
>
> Zodiac 601XL C-GOXL, CH701 just started
>
> www.ch601.org / www.ch701.com/ www.Osprey2.com
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| Subject: | Fuselage Gussets |
Bill,
My English teacher is rolling in her grave. Shame on me! But all this talk
of electronic headsets has my head spinning....
Gary Boothe
Cool, CA
601 HDSTD, WW Conversion 90% done,
Tail done, wings done, working on c-section
Do not archive.
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bill Naumuk
Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2007 10:05 AM
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Fuselage Gussets
Gary-
I believe Larry Mac used .020 on the fuse sides and .025 on the outboard
wings. I went with .025 on the outboards, and it's a lot easier to work
with. .020 is more expensive than either .016 or .025.
Are you exercising your get out of jail free card, or are you an
exorcist? I hope ma doesn't know you've got Linda Blair tied up in the shop!
Bill Naumuk
HDS Fuselage
Townville, Pa
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gary Boothe" <gboothe5@comcast.net>
Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2007 12:21 PM
Subject: RE: Zenith-List: Fuselage Gussets
>
> Bill,
>
> FWIW, I'm exorcising my "Get Out of Jail Free" card as a certifiable
> experimenter and going with .025 skins on the fuse of my HDS.
>
> Didn't someone recommend that awhile ago?
>
> Gary Boothe
> Cool, CA
> 601 HDSTD, WW Conversion 90% done,
> Tail done, wings done, working on c-section
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bill Naumuk
> Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2007 8:30 AM
> To: zenith-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Fuselage Gussets
>
>
> Jay-
> Like I said, apples and oranges. Very interesting, though. I wonder if
> I
>
> could retrofit .025 to my HDS in the event that I decide to replace my
> fuse
> side skins. All 3 of my potential engine choices are heavier than a
> 912/914,
>
> so W+B shouldn't be a factor. Might be worth investigating.
> Zodie- have you heard anything on this subject?
> do not archive
> Bill Naumuk
> HDS Fuselage
> Townville, Pa
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <Jaybannist@cs.com>
> To: <zenith-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Saturday, January 20, 2007 8:33 PM
> Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Fuselage Gussets
>
>
>>
>> Bill, Wade,
>>
>> You do NOT have to ask ZAC. They have already spoken - through their
>> drawings and photo guides. According to this (current) information, an
>> XL
>
>> requires NO rear fuselage gussets!
>>
>> Jay in Dallas
>> Do not archive
>>
>>
>> "Bill Naumuk" <naumuk@alltel.net> wrote:
>>
>>>Wade-
>>> From the list responses, looks like you have to ask Zenith.
>>> do not archive
>>>Bill Naumuk
>>>HDS Fuselage
>>>Townville, Pa
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: Bill Naumuk
>>> To: zenith-list@matronics.com
>>> Sent: Saturday, January 20, 2007 5:24 PM
>>> Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Fuselage Gussets
>>>
>>>
>>> Wade-
>>> Probably apples and oranges, but I'm right at that stage now. HDS
>>> plans call for gussets at the top of the fuse sides, aligned with the L
>>> angle stiffeners.
>>> Bill Naumuk
>>> HDS Fuselage
>>> Townville, Pa
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: Wade Jones
>>> To: zenith-list@matronics.com
>>> Sent: Saturday, January 20, 2007 4:52 PM
>>> Subject: Zenith-List: Fuselage Gussets
>>>
>>>
>>> Hello group ,while reading the different sites I see mention of
>>> several gussets in the rear fuselage .Have the plans been revised to
>>> exclude these or am I not seeing them in my plans interpretations .
>>> Plans
>
>>> Dated 03/06
>>> Wade Jones South Texas
>>> 601XL plans building
>>> Cont. 0200
>>>
>>>
>>>href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Zenith-List">http://www.matronhr
e
> f="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Builder Locations |
I've said it before, "Size does matter".
do not archive
----- Original Message -----
From: ZodieRocket
To: zenith-list@matronics.com
Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2007 9:19 AM
Subject: RE: Zenith-List: Builder Locations
http://www.frappr.com/zenith801 Don=92t feel bad, there is an 801
site as well. We love you, it=92s just your so dam big we figure you
guys all talk secretly, and just didn=92t include me!
Mark Townsend Alma, Ontario
Zodiac 601XL C-GOXL, CH801 C-FHUC , CH701 on wheels wings and tail
done OTIS
www.ch601.org / www.ch701.com/ www.Osprey2.com
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
n801bh@netzero.com
Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2007 10:14 AM
To: zenith-list@matronics.com
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Builder Locations
Boy, are all the 801 builders gonna need therapy now,,,, Nobody loves
us anymore.. <G>
do not archive
Ben Haas
N801BH
www.haaspowerair.com
-- "ZodieRocket" <zodierocket@hsfx.ca> wrote:
Hi Guys it has been awhile since I have mentioned
http://www.frappr.com/zenith701 and http://www.frappr.com/zenith601
Wow has it changed in the last little while you can actually zoom down
to see houses or airports. If you have been there before have a new look
, if your new to the list then drop by the applicable list and put in
your location.
Mark Townsend Alma, Ontario
Zodiac 601XL C-GOXL, CH701 just started
www.ch601.org / www.ch701.com/ www.Osprey2.com
--
1/19/2007 4:46 PM
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ith-List===========tronics.com=======
==== - The Zenith-List Email Forum - -->
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| Subject: | Re: Fuselage Gussets |
Gary-
Don't feel bad- ma just came home with a copy of Turbo Tax. Looks like
the rest of this weekend is shot!
do not archive
Bill Naumuk
HDS Fuselage
Townville, Pa
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gary Boothe" <gboothe5@comcast.net>
Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2007 1:24 PM
Subject: RE: Zenith-List: Fuselage Gussets
>
> Bill,
>
> My English teacher is rolling in her grave. Shame on me! But all this talk
> of electronic headsets has my head spinning....
>
> Gary Boothe
> Cool, CA
> 601 HDSTD, WW Conversion 90% done,
> Tail done, wings done, working on c-section
> Do not archive.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bill Naumuk
> Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2007 10:05 AM
> To: zenith-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Fuselage Gussets
>
>
> Gary-
> I believe Larry Mac used .020 on the fuse sides and .025 on the
> outboard
>
> wings. I went with .025 on the outboards, and it's a lot easier to work
> with. .020 is more expensive than either .016 or .025.
> Are you exercising your get out of jail free card, or are you an
> exorcist? I hope ma doesn't know you've got Linda Blair tied up in the
> shop!
> Bill Naumuk
> HDS Fuselage
> Townville, Pa
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Gary Boothe" <gboothe5@comcast.net>
> To: <zenith-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2007 12:21 PM
> Subject: RE: Zenith-List: Fuselage Gussets
>
>
>>
>> Bill,
>>
>> FWIW, I'm exorcising my "Get Out of Jail Free" card as a certifiable
>> experimenter and going with .025 skins on the fuse of my HDS.
>>
>> Didn't someone recommend that awhile ago?
>>
>> Gary Boothe
>> Cool, CA
>> 601 HDSTD, WW Conversion 90% done,
>> Tail done, wings done, working on c-section
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
>> [mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bill Naumuk
>> Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2007 8:30 AM
>> To: zenith-list@matronics.com
>> Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Fuselage Gussets
>>
>>
>> Jay-
>> Like I said, apples and oranges. Very interesting, though. I wonder if
>> I
>>
>> could retrofit .025 to my HDS in the event that I decide to replace my
>> fuse
>> side skins. All 3 of my potential engine choices are heavier than a
>> 912/914,
>>
>> so W+B shouldn't be a factor. Might be worth investigating.
>> Zodie- have you heard anything on this subject?
>> do not archive
>> Bill Naumuk
>> HDS Fuselage
>> Townville, Pa
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: <Jaybannist@cs.com>
>> To: <zenith-list@matronics.com>
>> Sent: Saturday, January 20, 2007 8:33 PM
>> Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Fuselage Gussets
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Bill, Wade,
>>>
>>> You do NOT have to ask ZAC. They have already spoken - through their
>>> drawings and photo guides. According to this (current) information, an
>>> XL
>>
>>> requires NO rear fuselage gussets!
>>>
>>> Jay in Dallas
>>> Do not archive
>>>
>>>
>>> "Bill Naumuk" <naumuk@alltel.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>>Wade-
>>>> From the list responses, looks like you have to ask Zenith.
>>>> do not archive
>>>>Bill Naumuk
>>>>HDS Fuselage
>>>>Townville, Pa
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: Bill Naumuk
>>>> To: zenith-list@matronics.com
>>>> Sent: Saturday, January 20, 2007 5:24 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Fuselage Gussets
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Wade-
>>>> Probably apples and oranges, but I'm right at that stage now. HDS
>>>> plans call for gussets at the top of the fuse sides, aligned with the L
>>>> angle stiffeners.
>>>> Bill Naumuk
>>>> HDS Fuselage
>>>> Townville, Pa
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: Wade Jones
>>>> To: zenith-list@matronics.com
>>>> Sent: Saturday, January 20, 2007 4:52 PM
>>>> Subject: Zenith-List: Fuselage Gussets
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hello group ,while reading the different sites I see mention of
>>>> several gussets in the rear fuselage .Have the plans been revised to
>>>> exclude these or am I not seeing them in my plans interpretations .
>>>> Plans
>>
>>>> Dated 03/06
>>>> Wade Jones South Texas
>>>> 601XL plans building
>>>> Cont. 0200
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Zenith-List">http://www.matronhr
> e
>> f="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Wing Spar Assembly Drawing 6W3, number of hat stiffeners |
?
I am confused about the number of hat stiffeners specified in the
main spar according to the latest 601XL drawings.
In item 1, on the top view of the wing spar web four hat stiffeners
are shown, on both the from view of the web and the whole spar only
3 hat stiffeners are shown. Also the description for the hat
stiffeners in item 8 lists 4 short ones and TWO long ones. So how
many hat stiffeners does the spar need to have? The rules say:
when in doubt follow the drawings, but the drawings don't seem to
be consistent here. I am scratch building the wings so I don't have
a pre-fab spar delivered, is there a kit builder who remembers his
spars ?
Maarten Versteeg San Antonio
601XL part kit part scratch
working on the wings
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| Subject: | Re: Re: Electronic Headsets.. |
I'm curious...
When I was a kid (age 4 till past high school) I flew with my Dad a
LOT...first in a 120, then a 140, then about 10 years worth in a 172.
We never used headsets. Dad never even owned a set. We always had a
simply mic hanging on a hook on the panel to grab and talk, and there
was a speaker in the ceiling over our heads. I don't recall ever
having a problem talking to Dad, or to ATC, nor do I recall trouble
hearing them. Did we just become noise conscious as a group, or did
the planes get louder? Or do we just like looking extra "aviator like"
with headsets on? I must say in more recent history, all the flying
I've done has been in aircraft with headsets, although since I don't
own a finished plane yet, I don't own any either.
Tim in Bovey, MN
701 Rudder Done
Plans set ordered
Rest of tail kit comin' soon
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| Subject: | Off topic, kinda on topic |
There may also be a jeweller in your area that uses casting to make
their
rings etc.
Noel
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Edward
Moody II
Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2007 2:41 PM
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Off topic, kinda on topic
Mark, do a phone book and web search for a foundry within driving
distance.
If there isn't one, try dental laboratories. You may get the help you
want
there.
Ed Moody II
Do Not Archive
----- Original Message -----
From: ZodieRocket <mailto:zodierocket@hsfx.ca>
Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2007 11:41 AM
Subject: Zenith-List: Off topic, kinda on topic
Hi Folks
Yesterday and today I have spent my time cleaning up my shop. I seem to
have
gathered a vast amount of cut offs and waste aluminum, which tends to
happen
to scratch builders. While I was putting all those pieces which are too
small to do anything with I was wondering Can they be melted down and
poured
into a mold in which I can make something useful like a statue of my 601
and
701? This requires a knowledge of mold making of which I don't have. I
don't
want a new career in this venture, I just want to make some use of
scrap.
All opinions and advice welcome but please respond to my personal E-Mail
and
not this list. Once and if I have a working model finished I will post
the
how-to on www.ch601.org <http://www.ch601.org/> and www.ch701.com
<http://www.ch701.com/> Please E-Mail me at webmaster@ch601.org
Checked by PC Tools AntiVirus (3.1.0.10 - 9.058.016).
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| Subject: | Re: Wing Spar Assembly Drawing 6W3, number of hat stiffeners |
?
Maarten,
You need four (two short-two long) hat stiffeners for each spar
Terry Turnquist
601XL-Plans
St. Peters, MO
Maarten Versteeg <maarten.versteeg@swri.org> wrote:
I am confused about the number of hat stiffeners specified in the
main spar according to the latest 601XL drawings.
In item 1, on the top view of the wing spar web four hat stiffeners
are shown, on both the from view of the web and the whole spar only
3 hat stiffeners are shown. Also the description for the hat
stiffeners in item 8 lists 4 short ones and TWO long ones. So how
many hat stiffeners does the spar need to have? The rules say:
when in doubt follow the drawings, but the drawings don't seem to
be consistent here. I am scratch building the wings so I don't have
a pre-fab spar delivered, is there a kit builder who remembers his
spars ?
Maarten Versteeg San Antonio
601XL part kit part scratch
working on the wings
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| Subject: | Re: Wing Spar Assembly Drawing 6W3, number of hat stiffeners |
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Hi Masrten,
I don't have a spar handy, but I do have one scrapped out in my shop
if I need to see any details. My prints are also out in the shop.
Perhaps you need to understand the "Secret" that there are two
different XL configurations for the wing spar. They depend on the
choice of standard or extended range tanks. After you make the
choice of tankage, you need to position the nose ribs correctly to
create the single wide open area for the tank and then it may be
obvious where the hat stiffeners go for that configuration.
I hope that helps a little. if not, perhaps you could tell me which
version of the wing tanks you have chosen and I can interpret where
the hat stiffeners and nose ribs go.
Best regards,
Paul
XL fuselage
At 01:12 PM 1/21/2007, you wrote:
><maarten.versteeg@swri.org>
>
>I am confused about the number of hat stiffeners specified in the
>main spar according to the latest 601XL drawings.
>In item 1, on the top view of the wing spar web four hat stiffeners
>are shown, on both the from view of the web and the whole spar only
>3 hat stiffeners are shown. Also the description for the hat
>stiffeners in item 8 lists 4 short ones and TWO long ones. So how
>many hat stiffeners does the spar need to have? The rules say:
>when in doubt follow the drawings, but the drawings don't seem to
>be consistent here. I am scratch building the wings so I don't have
>a pre-fab spar delivered, is there a kit builder who remembers his
>spars ?
>
>Maarten Versteeg San Antonio
>601XL part kit part scratch
>working on the wings
>
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| Subject: | Wing Spar Assembly Drawing 6W3, number of hat stiffeners |
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Maarten,
I don't remember, but I have extensive photos taken during construction. I have
looked at the photos of both wings and I don't see the last (outboard) hat channel,
the one that is shown on the plan view of the spar web. I can see three
others, two short inboard ones and one long one at about mid span, as shown
on the "front View.". Hope this helps.
Jay in Dallas
Maarten Versteeg <maarten.versteeg@swri.org> wrote:
>
>I am confused about the number of hat stiffeners specified in the
>main spar according to the latest 601XL drawings.
>In item 1, on the top view of the wing spar web four hat stiffeners
>are shown, on both the from view of the web and the whole spar only
>3 hat stiffeners are shown. Also the description for the hat
>stiffeners in item 8 lists 4 short ones and TWO long ones. So how
>many hat stiffeners does the spar need to have? The rules say:
>when in doubt follow the drawings, but the drawings don't seem to
>be consistent here. I am scratch building the wings so I don't have
>a pre-fab spar delivered, is there a kit builder who remembers his
>spars ?
>
>Maarten Versteeg San Antonio
>601XL part kit part scratch
>working on the wings
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Wing Spar Assembly Drawing 6W3, number of hat stiffeners |
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Maarten,
You may need four, but as I said in my previous post, the kit-supplied spars only
have three.
Jay in Dallas
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Terry Turnquist <ter_turn@yahoo.com> wrote:
>Maarten,
>
> You need four (two short-two long) hat stiffeners for each spar
>
> Terry Turnquist
> 601XL-Plans
> St. Peters, MO
>
>Maarten Versteeg <maarten.versteeg@swri.org> wrote:
>
>I am confused about the number of hat stiffeners specified in the
>main spar according to the latest 601XL drawings.
>In item 1, on the top view of the wing spar web four hat stiffeners
>are shown, on both the from view of the web and the whole spar only
>3 hat stiffeners are shown. Also the description for the hat
>stiffeners in item 8 lists 4 short ones and TWO long ones. So how
>many hat stiffeners does the spar need to have? The rules say:
>when in doubt follow the drawings, but the drawings don't seem to
>be consistent here. I am scratch building the wings so I don't have
>a pre-fab spar delivered, is there a kit builder who remembers his
>spars ?
>
>Maarten Versteeg San Antonio
>601XL part kit part scratch
>working on the wings
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Re: Electronic Headsets.. |
Tim,
Headsets serve two very important functions:
First - they protect your hearing. I wear hearing aids and wish I had
protected my hearing during the first 25 years of my 50 years worth of
aviation involvement.\
Second - They provide for much better communications with ATC, etc. As a
result, safety is enhanced for everyone. Less miscommunication, less stress
due to lower volumn and much more.
My advise is to always use headsets - good ones.
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Semper Fi,
Steven R. Hulland
CH 600 Taildragger
Amado, AZ
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| Subject: | Annual Inspections |
OK List,
Small, Maybe large question!
As I am assembling and seeing talks of cracks found during annual
inspections, this has lead me to some thinking this morning.
Of those who are flying with time on their homebuilt (601,701 701, RV or
others), how do you establish your checklist for review during an annual
inspection.
Do you use a list established form the FAA, the plans developer, or simply
experience.
All attaching points? Mechanical movments?
Any thoughts?
Rich Simmons
601XL
Waiting on Fuse kit
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| Subject: | Re: Re: Electronic Headsets.. |
To hear better can't we just pull the string tighter?
Gary Boothe
Cool, CA
601 HDSTD, WW Conversion 90% done,
Tail done, wings done, working on c-section
Do not archive.
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Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2007 3:49 PM
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Re: Re: Electronic Headsets..
Tim,
Headsets serve two very important functions:
First - they protect your hearing. I wear hearing aids and wish I had
protected my hearing during the first 25 years of my 50 years worth of
aviation involvement.\
Second - They provide for much better communications with ATC, etc. As a
result, safety is enhanced for everyone. Less miscommunication, less stress
due to lower volumn and much more.
My advise is to always use headsets - good ones.
--
Semper Fi,
Steven R. Hulland
CH 600 Taildragger
Amado, AZ
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| Subject: | Flap Gap Stop 601XL |
While finishing up my right wing (from a ZAC kit) I came across something interesting.
The plans (6S3) show a 90 x 25 mm 1/8th inch thick piece of nylon that
is riveted to the rear spar flange to act as a stop for the outboard end of
the flap. Checking the parts list I could find no record of the piece and after
a call to ZAC, they couldn't either. They're sending me a piece of nylon to
make the part but I wondered whether others have run into the same issue.
ZAC indicated I was the first to call about it.
Tim
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Champ L16A flying
Zodiac XL - Working on wings
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| Subject: | Re: Re: Electronic Headsets.. |
Gary
A tighter string would probably work.
Do Not Archive
On 1/21/07, Gary Boothe <gboothe5@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> To hear better can't we just pull the string tighter?
>
>
> Gary Boothe
> Cool, CA
> 601 HDSTD, WW Conversion 90% done,
> Tail done, wings done, working on c-section
>
> Do not archive.
> ------------------------------
>
> *From:* owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:
> owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *Steve Hulland
> *Sent:* Sunday, January 21, 2007 3:49 PM
> *To:* zenith-list@matronics.com
> *Subject:* Re: Zenith-List: Re: Re: Electronic Headsets..
>
>
> Tim,
>
> Headsets serve two very important functions:
>
> First - they protect your hearing. I wear hearing aids and wish I had
> protected my hearing during the first 25 years of my 50 years worth of
> aviation involvement.\
>
> Second - They provide for much better communications with ATC, etc. As a
> result, safety is enhanced for everyone. Less miscommunication, less stress
> due to lower volumn and much more.
>
> My advise is to always use headsets - good ones.
>
>
> --
> Semper Fi,
> Steven R. Hulland
> CH 600 Taildragger
> Amado, AZ
>
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| Subject: | Re: Electronic Headsets.. |
Tim I had much the same upbringing in and around aircraft. I flew with my grandfather
in everything from Cubs to Lear Jets. It wasn't until the company he flew
for purchased a Citation 1 that I ever saw him put on a headset and he only
did it then because it was part of the single pilot requirements for the aircraft.
That said I wish I'd worn them through my flying. I didn't start using them until
I got my helicopter rating in '95.
There is a ton of low frequency noise in aircraft that will, not might, but will
damage your hearing.
About 2 or 3 years ago I noticed having to turn the TV up a little louder. I got
my hearing checked for the first time in years and when the Dr. was looking
at the results he asked, "Do you fly?"
He then went on to tell me that "For 30 years or so , right?"
Wear them, and make you passengers wear them especially if they are kids.
Add to that, assuming you have a good pair you really can hear the radio better.
minoxphotographer(at)yaho wrote:
> I'm curious...
> When I was a kid (age 4 till past high school) I flew with my Dad a
> LOT...first in a 120, then a 140, then about 10 years worth in a 172.
> We never used headsets. Dad never even owned a set. We always had a
> simply mic hanging on a hook on the panel to grab and talk, and there
> was a speaker in the ceiling over our heads. I don't recall ever
> having a problem talking to Dad, or to ATC, nor do I recall trouble
> hearing them. Did we just become noise conscious as a group, or did
> the planes get louder? Or do we just like looking extra "aviator like"
> with headsets on? I must say in more recent history, all the flying
> I've done has been in aircraft with headsets, although since I don't
> own a finished plane yet, I don't own any either.
>
> Tim in Bovey, MN
> 701 Rudder Done
> Plans set ordered
> Rest of tail kit comin' soon
>
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601XL Under Construction
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| Subject: | Re: Flap Gap Stop 601XL |
It didn't used to be on the plans. I didn't even know about it until I saw it on
a 601XL down at Corvair College.
Tim Juhl wrote:
> While finishing up my right wing (from a ZAC kit) I came across something interesting.
The plans (6S3) show a 90 x 25 mm 1/8th inch thick piece of nylon that
is riveted to the rear spar flange to act as a stop for the outboard end of
the flap. Checking the parts list I could find no record of the piece and after
a call to ZAC, they couldn't either. They're sending me a piece of nylon
to make the part but I wondered whether others have run into the same issue.
ZAC indicated I was the first to call about it.
>
> Tim
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601XL Under Construction
See my progress at www.peoamerica.net/N601WR
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| Subject: | Builder Locations |
We are all in the same boat, so chattin will solve most problems. Us 801
guys are real friendly. To quote a Radio Shack commercial " you have qu
estions,,, we have answers"..
happy flying, and for sure,,, DO NOT ARCHIVE
Ben Haas
N801BH
www.haaspowerair.com
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guys all talk secretly, and just didn=92t include me!
Mark Townsend Alma, <?xml:namespace prefix = st1 ns = "urn:schemas-
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Zodiac 601XL C-GOXL, CH801 C-FHUC , CH701 on wheels wings and tail done
OTIS
www.ch601.org / www.ch701.com/ www.Osprey2.com
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Boy, are all the 801 builders gonna need therapy now,,,, Nobody loves us
anymore.. <G>
do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: Annual Inspections |
Rich,Appendix 1 (Sample Checklist for a Condition Inspection) to
Advisory Circular 90-89A "Amateur-Built Aircraft and Ultralight Flight
Testing Handbook" is a good checklist to modify for your particular
aircraft. Also, recommend all download the AC from the FAA
website.Tony Graziano; 601XL; N493TG; 196 hrs
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Of those who are flying with time on their homebuilt (601,701 701, RV or
others), how do you establish your checklist for review during an annual
inspection.
Do you use a list established form the FAA, the plans developer, or
simply
experience.
All attaching points? Mechanical movments?
Any thoughts?
Rich Simmons
601XL
Waiting on Fuse kit
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| Subject: | I'm visiting Toronto |
Boys,
I will be visiting Toronto, Canada on Business for three weeks from Jan 29th
to Feb 16th. I'm looking for something to do over the two weekends and was
hoping one or two of you builders live in the area. I don't mind driving an
hour or so on either of the weekends to see someone's project. If there is
someone that is interested in showing off their project, please contact me
off list.
Thanks,
Dave Thompson
dave.thompson@verizon.net
Westminster, CA
601XL rudder workshop, Corvair in parts, plan to start scratch building in
March or April
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| Subject: | Zenith 601 XL complete kit for sale |
I am selling the kit I bought a couple of months ago from a guy on this list.
There is nothing wrong with the kit and it comes with the nav strobes, wheel pants,
dual sticks, electric trim, tools, clecos, primer,the only parts that are started
are the rudder which the person I bought it from built at the rudder workshop,
and the horz. stab. which hasn't been closed. The kit is packed in a 12 foot
table that was turned upside down and made into a box so when you unpack it
you will have a great worktable.
I am asking $13,000.00 for the whole shooting match and with all the extras that's
about $5,000.00 off the zenith price.
The kit is located in Louisville, KY.
Contact me off list or call me @ 502-644-8123 Jeff
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| Subject: | I'm visiting Toronto |
Hi Dave, door is always open ! I may put you to work though!
Mark Townsend
Can-Zac Aviation Ltd.
HYPERLINK
"mailto:president@can-zacaviation.com"president@can-zacaviation.com
HYPERLINK "http://www.can-zacaviation.com/"www.can-zacaviation.com
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Subject: Zenith-List: I'm visiting Toronto
Boys,
I will be visiting Toronto, Canada on Business for three weeks from Jan
29th to Feb 16th. I=92m looking for something to do over the two
weekends
and was hoping one or two of you builders live in the area. I don=92t
mind
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project. If there is someone that is interested in showing off their
project, please contact me off list.
Thanks,
Dave Thompson
HYPERLINK "mailto:dave.thompson@verizon.net"dave.thompson@verizon.net
Westminster, CA
601XL rudder workshop, Corvair in parts, plan to start scratch building
in March or April
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| Subject: | Re: Annual Inspections |
Hi Rich,
"FAR 2005, Appendix D to Part 43, Scope and Detail" as applies to your
specific aircraft is a great
guide and model from which you craft the annual or 100 hour inspection.
If you need a closer model
I can email you my 3-page inspection document which includes the
statement that is applied within the
aircraft, engine and prop logs each year. This document is tied in to
the back of my POH which makes
for a 37 page document for all aspects of the aircraft. A copy is
required to be in the aircraft.
Larry McFarland - 601HDS at www.macsmachine.com
> Of those who are flying with time on their homebuilt (601,701 701, RV or
> others), how do you establish your checklist for review during an annual
> inspection.
>
>
> Do you use a list established form the FAA, the plans developer, or simply
> experience.
>
> All attaching points? Mechanical movments?
>
>
> Any thoughts?
>
>
> Rich Simmons
>
> 601XL
>
> Waiting on Fuse kit
>
>
> *================================================
>
> *
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| Subject: | Re: Electronic Headsets.. |
This will work:
http://tinyurl.com/2kydok
Saludos
Gary Gower
VideoFlyer@aol.com wrote: OK....that link doesn't work either....sorry. If
you search for item number 92851 you'll find it.
Dave
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| Subject: | Re: Annual Inspections |
Larry,
I am in the process of my first conditional inspection, I would like a copy
if you don't mind.
Thanks
Bob Spudis
_NYTERMINAT@aol.com_ (mailto:NYTERMINAT@aol.com)
In a message dated 1/21/2007 9:11:11 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
larry@macsmachine.com writes:
Hi Rich,
"FAR 2005, Appendix D to Part 43, Scope and Detail" as applies to your
specific aircraft is a great
guide and model from which you craft the annual or 100 hour inspection.
If you need a closer model
I can email you my 3-page inspection document which includes the
statement that is applied within the
aircraft, engine and prop logs each year. This document is tied in to
the back of my POH which makes
for a 37 page document for all aspects of the aircraft. A copy is
required to be in the aircraft.
Larry McFarland - 601HDS at www.macsmachine.com
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| Subject: | Re: More decisions about buying the Rotax 912 for my 701 |
In my personal experience, the 701S is a must in airport altitudes over 5,000 ft
ASL. With the clutch, there is no shaking...
Also, remember the aviation saying, when need to climg over trees, all the extra
power you have is welcome...
Our last X country about a month ago was to Atizapan, 8,120 ft ASL...
Saludos
Gary Gower
701 912S 98 hrs
Flying from Chapala, Mexico 5,029 ft ASL
george.mueller@aurora.org wrote:
I received some very helpful feedback from the list on experiences with Rotax vendors,
as it is time for me to buy the 912S for my 701. However one response
has stopped my in my tracks for now. It was from a 701 flyer that had a 912S
who wished he had the 80 HP 912. The advantages of the 80HP were: easier starting,
doesn't shake the tail apart (although I have redone all the HS mounts,
both on the fuselage and HS in .063), the 100hp only needed if flying floats,
the only benefit without floats is you get a bit of a boost on take off (I thought
I might add floats down the road, but it is not for sure, I might never
get around to it and shortening take off distance in a 701, well how short does
it need to be?), the 912 S needs a gearbox clutch and the prop alternatives
are slightly more limited, the 80hp has a lower price, slightly less fuel usage,
less vibration and somewhat higher reliability. My whole life I have always
considered more horsepower to be better, but now
I am wondering.....I have the Skyshops FWF so I am committed to the Rotax 912
( I assume the FWF fits the 912 or the 912s both, I ordered about a year ago and
I can't remember if I had to specify which engine, but I think both engines
are identical on the outside).
What has been the experience of the 80hp flyers vs the 100hp flyers?
I have to make a decision fast, as Rotax engine prices are going up $1,000 on Feb
1.
George in Milwaukee
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Hello List:
I am at the point of wiring the first wing on my CH701. I need to get both
tooling and crimp on terminals, etc. AS has terminals but I cannot find
crimpers. Any one know where I can find one?
I noticed in an old post that there is a neat way to hold 601 wings for
painting. Is there such a device for the 701 wing?
Has anyone ever installed landing lights in the flat part of the wing
tip?
Thanks all, John Read
CH701 in Colorado under lots of snow!
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| Subject: | re-fusefage gussets |
I'm the second owner of my project and the 601 XL I have has the .016 skins
in the rear. I replaced the skin on the left rear this week with a skin I
purchased from Zenith due to some wrinkling issues. It came .025 in the
mail. It went on with no problem and looks better than the right side! Just
for the looks, I would recomment the thicker skin.
I didn't know there are some builders with long term cracking problems with
the .016. I don't remember seeing this problem posted in the past. While the
fuselage is still apart, should I replace the otherside with .025 with the
intention of keeping this airplane for a very long time? Thanks.
Joe Scheibinger
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| Subject: | Re: Electronic Headsets.. |
On Sun, 21 Jan 2007, Gig Giacona wrote:
> That said I wish I'd worn them through my flying. I didn't start using
> them until I got my helicopter rating in '95.
I've only been flying for not quite 15 years. One of the things I noticed
early on was that all of the old crusty flight instructors who had been
seriously flyig for 40 years+ all had hearing aides.
I figure the most expensive headset I can get is going to bec heaper than
the cheapest hearing aide I could get.
Frank Stutzman
Bonanza N494B "Hula Girl"
Hood River, OR (soon to be Boise, ID)
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| Subject: | Re: A new Evans Question |
I had the coolant changed to Evans before a long cross-country. The oil temp got
near 230 over Kansas when there was a 106 surface temperature. I had to back
off the throttle a bit to keep it within range. The temperature dropped another
10 degrees after I eased back on the throttle ... so I have no doubt that
the collant does its job well enough.
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Zodiac 601 XL - CZAW Built - Rotax 912S
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| Subject: | Re: More questions |
The crimper is available from a number of places, one is:
http://terminaltown.com/Pages/EclipseCrimpTools.html
Google "eclipse crimper" for many more vendors!
----- Original Message -----
From: JohnDRead@aol.com
To: zenith-list@matronics.com
Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2007 10:09 PM
Subject: Zenith-List: More questions
Hello List:
I am at the point of wiring the first wing on my
CH701. I need to get both tooling and crimp on terminals, etc. AS has
terminals but I cannot find crimpers. Any one know where I can find one?
I noticed in an old post that there is a neat way to hold 601
wings for painting. Is there such a device for the 701 wing?
Has anyone ever installed landing lights in the flat part of the
wing tip?
Thanks all, John Read
CH701 in Colorado under lots of snow!
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| Subject: | Re: More questions |
Also B&C Specialty Products http://www.bandc.biz/index.html which is
recommended by Bob Nuckolls of Aeroelectric Connection. For an excellent
article on what to look for in a good crimper, read Bob's article at
http://www.aeroelectric.com/articles/CrimpTools/crimptools.html.
Larry Winger
Tustin, CA
601XL scratch builder
Tail complete/Flaps ready to rivet
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| Subject: | Re: Wing Spar Assembly Drawing 6W3, number of hat stiffeners |
?
Page 6-K-0 of the plans shows the dimensions and spar layout for the standard tanks.
There are 2 long and 2 short hat stiffeners specified in the plans for the
standard tanks. Page 6-W-3 shows the spar configuration for the long range
tanks which specifies 2 short and 1 long stiffeners. Note that the location of
LNRA#4 is different for the standard tanks. I think ZAC should have put the drawings
for the standard tanks on 6-W-3 and the optional long range tanks on page
6-K-0. That seems to be more logical, to me.
Dave Clay
http://www.daves601xl.com
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