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1. 04:27 AM - Re: Balistic Chute (alex_001)
2. 05:27 AM - Re: Balistic Chute (William Dominguez)
3. 05:42 AM - Harold Klassen (Aaron Gustafson)
4. 06:43 AM - Harbor Freight 40" Brake (george.mueller@aurora.org)
5. 07:23 AM - Re: Sheet metal brake (Chris Lewis)
6. 07:50 AM - Re: Decision on Carb Heat for Rotax 912 ULS!!!!!! (Gig Giacona)
7. 08:09 AM - Need a BRS? (Zed Smith)
8. 08:15 AM - (Brad DeMeo)
9. 08:28 AM - Re: Re: Decision on Carb Heat for Rotax 912 ULS!!!!!! (Dirk Slabbert)
10. 08:28 AM - Re: Need a BRS? (Dan)
11. 09:18 AM - My Playground (john H)
12. 09:48 AM - Re: (Ron Butterfield)
13. 09:55 AM - Canopy Latch and Lock (Brad DeMeo)
14. 09:56 AM - Rotax 583 engine package (David Mikesell)
15. 10:35 AM - Re: My Playground (TxDave)
16. 10:48 AM - Re: locking canopy latch (Craig Payne)
17. 11:22 AM - Re: Re: Decision on Carb Heat for Rotax 912 ULS!!!!!! (David Austin)
18. 12:19 PM - XL Flaps: Maximum down deflection. (Paul Mulwitz)
19. 12:26 PM - Re: locking canopy latch (Samm Munn)
20. 12:37 PM - Re: Need a BRS? (Dave Ruddiman)
21. 01:36 PM - Re: XL Flaps: Maximum down deflection. (Bryan Martin)
22. 02:15 PM - Re: XL Flaps: Maximum down deflection. (Craig Payne)
23. 03:02 PM - Re: XL Flaps: Maximum down deflection. (george may)
24. 03:29 PM - Re: 801 Bottom Fuselage Skin801 Bottom Fuselage Skin (Maynard, Brad)
25. 03:46 PM - Re: Re: Sheet metal brake (Bill Naumuk)
26. 03:55 PM - A Few Questions for Scratchbuilders (Doug Moellering)
27. 04:17 PM - Re: XL Flaps: Maximum down deflection. (Paul Mulwitz)
28. 04:25 PM - Re: My Playground (C Smith)
29. 04:47 PM - Re: XL Flaps: Maximum down deflection. (Craig Payne)
30. 05:01 PM - Re: XL Flaps: Maximum down deflection. (george may)
31. 05:23 PM - Re: A Few Questions for Scratchbuilders (Paul Mulwitz)
32. 05:55 PM - One man Wing Flipper (Ron Lendon)
33. 06:18 PM - Re: No Title (Wingrider)
34. 06:40 PM - Re: XL Flaps: Maximum down deflection. (Juan Vega)
35. 06:41 PM - Re: XL Flaps: Maximum down deflection. (Juan Vega)
36. 08:24 PM - Re: Decision on Carb Heat for Rotax 912 ULS!!!!!! (David X)
37. 09:21 PM - Re: Rotax 583 engine package (Saad Mahaini)
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| Subject: | Re: Balistic Chute |
in germany it is cumpolsery to have a rescue system CZAW uses the BRS soft pack
on the 601 xl
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| Subject: | Re: Balistic Chute |
I'm planning to put one in mine. I think I've heard all arguments in favor and
against, my conclusion is still to go for it.
William Dominguez
Zodiac 601XL Plans
Miami, Florida
----- Original Message ----- From: Craig Payne
To: zenith-list@matronics.com
Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2007 1:51 PM
Subject: RE: Zenith-List: Balistic Chute
>Is anyone putting a Balistic Rcovery Chute on their 601's?
Scott sure is:
www.cooknwithgas.com/BRS.html
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Harold
Go to the bottom of this message and to the "navigator" to unsubscribe
to the list. That's the only way to do it! do not archive
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| Subject: | Harbor Freight 40" Brake |
Regarding the 40" Harbor Freight brake, I have used that for fabricating
parts for my 701 project for the past couple of years and it works great.
To get a 1/8" radius I put a sheet of .016 in the brake, bent it over the
edge and left it there. This will give you the 1/8" radius. This brake
gives you the most utility for the money invested of any brake I have seen
around.
On another subject, I am planning to install an oil thermostat on my
Rotax 912ul with the Skyshops firewall forward kit. Has anyone else done
this, and if so, where did you end up putting the thermostat?
George in Milwaukee
701 installing engine
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| Subject: | Re: Sheet metal brake |
Bill - The link's been up for the "Zodie Rocket" brake for a while now.
http://www.ch601.org/tools/brake_plans.htm
I personally am building a large version of Dave Clay's brake right now (my take
on the home depot brake worked great on .020 and .025, but slipped when trying
to bend .032 spar doublers). I'll be adding some lifting cams made from the
same recycled content outdoor lumber seen elsewhere (also built flanging dies
from this stuff - works great) and I'll be adding a center tensioning bar as
shown on Mark's brake. I hope to finish it this weekend and will post a pic if
I can get r done.
Enjoy!
Chris in Seattle
--------
701 Scratch Builder
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| Subject: | Re: Decision on Carb Heat for Rotax 912 ULS!!!!!! |
Though I'm not planing on using a Rotax engine what makes them immune to carb ice?
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W.R. "Gig" Giacona
601XL Under Construction
See my progress at www.peoamerica.net/N601WR
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do not archive
List,
This may be old news, but it is worth seeing.
Go to www.kfvs.com
Type in EMERGENCY LANDING in the Search Box.
Where is the nearest restroom?
Zed
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I am looking for canopy latch ideas that include a lock. I would
appreciate any plans or links from this always reliable list serv.
Thanks.
Bradford J. DeMeo
601 xl
80% done
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| Subject: | Re: Decision on Carb Heat for Rotax 912 ULS!!!!!! |
Both carb float bowls are cleverly placed in the hot airstream behind each
bank of cyl's.
Dunno about immune .....
Dirk
The 2 prick 701.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gig Giacona" <wr.giacona@cox.net>
Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2007 5:49 PM
Subject: Zenith-List: Re: Decision on Carb Heat for Rotax 912 ULS!!!!!!
>
> Though I'm not planing on using a Rotax engine what makes them immune to
> carb ice?
>
> --------
> W.R. "Gig" Giacona
> 601XL Under Construction
> See my progress at www.peoamerica.net/N601WR
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=93431#93431
>
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Zed Smith wrote:
>
> do not archive
>
> List,
>
> This may be old news, but it is worth seeing.
> Go to www.kfvs.com
> Type in EMERGENCY LANDING in the Search Box.
>
> Where is the nearest restroom?
>
> Zed
>
>
> .
>
>
I think they defined VNE for this plane! Amazing that they survived.
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Hi List
Got the winter blues? Project going slower than you would like? Well keep up
the work even if it is just a little everyday. It is all worth it. See
attachments
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601HD 912ul 236hrs and still loving it
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| Subject: | Re: Zenith-List: |
On 2/7/07, Brad DeMeo <demeo@sonic.net> wrote:
>
> I am looking for canopy latch ideas that include a lock.
I don't know how well this would adapt to a Zenith, but...
A friend of mine with a Cozy had his canopy latch only exposed to the
inside, then made an access door that had a key lock on it. You would
unlock the access door, reach in, and unlatch the canopy.
--
Regards,
RonB
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| Subject: | Canopy Latch and Lock |
Whoops! That posting of mine should have had a subject. I am looking
for canopy latch and lock ideas. Any ideas are appreciated.
Do not archive
Brad DeMeo
601xl
80% done
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| Subject: | Rotax 583 engine package |
Rotax 583 90hp engine, both carbs, cdi unit (about 65 hrs tsn), 0 time
new items include GPL starter, C box, tuned exhaust, Grand Rapids EIS
with fuel flow and coolant pressure options. . Asking $ 6000 for all.
Removed Rans S12 new owner wanted 912, over $8000 invested.
David Mikesell
23597 N. Hwy 99
Acampo, CA 95220
209-224-4485
skyguynca@skyguynca.com
www.skyguynca.com
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| Subject: | Re: My Playground |
Thanks for the inspiration, John.
do not archive
Dave Clay
Temple, TX
http://www.daves601xl.com
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| Subject: | locking canopy latch |
Zenith now sells one. Take a look at the photos at the end of this section
of the photo assembly guides on pages 10 and 11:
www.zenithair.com/zodiac/xl/data/6-c-3d.pdf
Zenith will sell you the handle and all the misc. pieces for about $48. But
you have to order each piece separately. I have the whole kit if you want
part numbers and/or more detailed photos.
If you just want the lever it can be ordered from McMasters-Carr.
-- Craig
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| Subject: | Re: Decision on Carb Heat for Rotax 912 ULS!!!!!! |
When used on the 601 and 701 the carbs draw air from inside the cowl close
to the firewall. Heat in the cowl effectively gives you continuous carb
heat. So yes, power is reduced by some amount.
Dave Austin 601HDS - 912, Spitfire Mk VIII
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gig Giacona" <wr.giacona@cox.net>
Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2007 10:49 AM
Subject: Zenith-List: Re: Decision on Carb Heat for Rotax 912 ULS!!!!!!
>
> Though I'm not planing on using a Rotax engine what makes them immune to
> carb ice?
>
> --------
> W.R. "Gig" Giacona
> 601XL Under Construction
> See my progress at www.peoamerica.net/N601WR
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=93431#93431
>
>
>
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| Subject: | XL Flaps: Maximum down deflection. |
I have been fighting with the flap actuator motor on my XL and come
up with a strange set of design conflicts. The deflection called for
on sheet 6-S-3 calls for 30 degrees maximum deflection, but the
design shown on 6-B-19 can only produce about 20 degrees of deflection.
I spoke to Caleb at ZAC today and he promised to look into this issue
and get back to me. I also wanted to ask list members if anyone has
run into this problem already. What flap deflection have builders
who finished their XLs get? A related question (according to Caleb)
is whether the elevator trim can neutralize the pitch changes with full flaps.
I would appreciate any information related to XL flap deflection.
Thanks,
Paul
XL fuselage
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| Subject: | Re: locking canopy latch |
The Covermaster T-Handle locks (G400 and/or G400-L at
http://www.pickupspecialties.com/Camper_shell_parts.htm are what I'm
considering using.
Samm Munn
Zenith 601XL (plans) , Corvair (plans)
----- Original Message -----
From: "Brad DeMeo" <demeo@sonic.net>
Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2007 10:15 AM
Subject: Zenith-List:
>
> I am looking for canopy latch ideas that include a lock. I would
> appreciate any plans or links from this always reliable list serv.
> Thanks.
>
> Bradford J. DeMeo
> 601 xl
> 80% done
>
>
>
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I don't think you would need a restroom. That had probably been done when
they woke up. Maybe a change of clothes.
do not archive
----- Original Message -----
From: "Zed Smith" <zsmith3rd@earthlink.net>
Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2007 8:09 AM
Subject: Zenith-List: Need a BRS?
>
> do not archive
>
> List,
>
> This may be old news, but it is worth seeing.
> Go to www.kfvs.com
> Type in EMERGENCY LANDING in the Search Box.
>
> Where is the nearest restroom?
>
> Zed
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: XL Flaps: Maximum down deflection. |
Mine deflect about 27 and I can't trim out the plane with full flaps.
> <p.mulwitz@worldnet.att.net>
>
> I have been fighting with the flap actuator motor on my XL and come
> up with a strange set of design conflicts. The deflection called
> for on sheet 6-S-3 calls for 30 degrees maximum deflection, but the
> design shown on 6-B-19 can only produce about 20 degrees of
> deflection.
>
> I spoke to Caleb at ZAC today and he promised to look into this
> issue and get back to me. I also wanted to ask list members if
> anyone has run into this problem already. What flap deflection
> have builders who finished their XLs get? A related question
> (according to Caleb) is whether the elevator trim can neutralize
> the pitch changes with full flaps.
>
--
Bryan Martin
N61BM, CH 601 XL,
RAM Subaru, Stratus redrive.
do not archive.
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| Subject: | XL Flaps: Maximum down deflection. |
Do you have the elevator trim tab that spans half or all of the elevator
side? Michael Heintz told me that they went to the full width trim tab to
meet a SLSA requirement of being to able trim with full flaps.
-- Craig
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| Subject: | XL Flaps: Maximum down deflection. |
Paul--
I fought the same issue when I built my flaps. I could not get the 30
degrees. I ended up with 26 degrees. Based on previous comments on trim
issues, I enlarged my elevator trim tab to full span. I can trim out flaps
up to about 18-20 degrees. With full flap deflection I need to hold back
stick
George May
zodiac 912s 44 hours
>From: Paul Mulwitz <p.mulwitz@worldnet.att.net>
>To: <zenith-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: Zenith-List: XL Flaps: Maximum down deflection.
>Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2007 12:18:08 -0800
>
><p.mulwitz@worldnet.att.net>
>
>I have been fighting with the flap actuator motor on my XL and come up with
>a strange set of design conflicts. The deflection called for on sheet
>6-S-3 calls for 30 degrees maximum deflection, but the design shown on
>6-B-19 can only produce about 20 degrees of deflection.
>
>I spoke to Caleb at ZAC today and he promised to look into this issue and
>get back to me. I also wanted to ask list members if anyone has run into
>this problem already. What flap deflection have builders who finished
>their XLs get? A related question (according to Caleb) is whether the
>elevator trim can neutralize the pitch changes with full flaps.
>
>I would appreciate any information related to XL flap deflection.
>
>Thanks,
>
>Paul
>XL fuselage
>
>
>-
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: 801 Bottom Fuselage Skin801 Bottom Fuselage Skin |
Time: 11:36:34 AM PST US
From: "Dave Ruddiman" <pacificpainting@comcast.net>
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: 801 Bottom Fuselage Skin801 Bottom Fuselage
Skin
Re: Zenith-List: 801 Bottom Fuselage Skin801 Bottom Fuselage SkinBrad,
So, what did you do?
Dave
----- Original Message -----
From: Maynard, Brad
To: zenith-list@matronics.com
Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2007 8:58 AM
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: 801 Bottom Fuselage Skin801 Bottom Fuselage
Skin
I used .025. Hope to test flight in about 2 years.
Brad
All, I wrote Zenith on this very subject. See the answer
Attached below.
Regards, Brad
> Zenith, I bought my kit in 2000. I am assembling the
> 'Rear Fuselage Lower skin -- 8F2-3A' which is 0.016 in thickness.
> This seems extremely thin for the purpose.
> Has there been an upgrade to thicker material on the latest
revisions?
>
> I am concerned that the thin skin with few supports will oilcan. Any
> problems with this?
>
> If so, can I replace with .025 --or-- add 'L's to arrest the oil
> canning?
ANSWER FROM ZENITH:
Ref. 8F2-3A there is no change to the part, 6061-T6 material thickness
t=.016"
There would be no problem replacing the skin with t=.025"
If you are still concerned about oil canning than you could also add L
angles like on the side skins.
Nick Heintz
Zenith Aircraft Company
email: support@zenithair.com
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| Subject: | Re: Sheet metal brake |
Cool! Now I'm set up for the NEXT plane I build! (If I don't shoot myself
first). You know, like you put down a rabid dog...
Bending .032 isn't something I've had the pleasure of experiencing. I
envision a big vise and a hammer!
do not archive
Bill Naumuk
HDS Fuselage
Townville, Pa
----- Original Message -----
From: "Chris Lewis" <christopherlewis@earthlink.net>
Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2007 10:23 AM
Subject: Zenith-List: Re: Sheet metal brake
> <christopherlewis@earthlink.net>
>
> Bill - The link's been up for the "Zodie Rocket" brake for a while now.
>
> http://www.ch601.org/tools/brake_plans.htm
>
> I personally am building a large version of Dave Clay's brake right now
> (my take on the home depot brake worked great on .020 and .025, but
> slipped when trying to bend .032 spar doublers). I'll be adding some
> lifting cams made from the same recycled content outdoor lumber seen
> elsewhere (also built flanging dies from this stuff - works great) and
> I'll be adding a center tensioning bar as shown on Mark's brake. I hope to
> finish it this weekend and will post a pic if I can get r done.
>
> Enjoy!
>
> Chris in Seattle
>
> --------
> 701 Scratch Builder
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=93425#93425
>
>
>
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| Subject: | A Few Questions for Scratchbuilders |
Thank God for this forum!
I have two questions for the scratch-builders out there.
The First:
I am not clear on the meaning of one of the diagrams on the 601 XL rear wing
rib drawing 6W6. My question is this:
The detail diagram of the edge of the forming block on the spar side, says
to "file the top of the block 90 degrees to spar flange on 25 mm". A length
dimension of 214.9 mm is shown as the spar face length of the forming
blocks. The distance from X=0, Yu=147 to X=33.8, Yl=66.5 (as shown in the
curve point table) is 216.16 mm, implying that 1.2 to 1.3 mm should be
removed by the filing operation. Note: this is not the joggle, since the
joggle is clearly stated, in the blank forming diagram, to apply to both top
and bottom flanges. The filing is only done (per drawing) to the top
forming block edge.
Am I correct in executing the following steps in this order?
1. Sand edges of forming block to the curve table points.
2. Sand 1.2 mm off in the region shown perpendicular to the spar side edge
(should leave a spar side edge 214.9 mm long, but it leaves a flat top
surface far longer than 25 mm).
3. Apply 1/8" radius to forming block edge all around.
4. Sand 10 degree springback all around forming block (except rear channel
side which should be 13 degrees).
This will result in a forming block with a straight section abutting the
curve points.
The reason I'm being fussy about this 1.2 mm is that, this is exactly the
region in which the tolerance should be held to a mouse whisker.
Can some of you who've been through this step tell me if I'm interpreting
this correctly?
Second Issue:
The rear panel for the lockers is shown on the drawing as 498 mm length with
sides of 225 and 218 mm. What isn't shown clearly are the angles in which
these sides meet. I'm guessing that the top side is perpendicular to the
225 and 218 sides, but it could also be the case that this piece is cut
trapezoidally, or even the perpendicular side could be the bottom????.
Maybe I'm overlooking an obvious clue here; in case I am, please bear with
me.
Someone who has installed the lockers please clue me in on the correct way
to cut this piece.
I do appreciate the help in this forum!
Doug
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| Subject: | XL Flaps: Maximum down deflection. |
Thanks everyone. It sounds like Caleb was giving
me straight skinny about the trim issue. I think
I do have the latest trim tab design - inset into
the elevator and taking much of one side. I
still think the decision to reduce the flap
deflection might have been related to the design
problem as much as the trim issue, but I guess that doesn't really matter.
Can anyone tell me if the full flaps (30 degrees)
is really helpful in dumping altitude? Will 20
degrees be a big improvement over no flaps at all?
I guess my choices at this point are whether to
settle for the current limit of 20 degrees or
demand or design a larger deflection.
Paul
XL fuselage
At 02:58 PM 2/7/2007, you wrote:
>
>Paul--
> I fought the same issue when I built my
> flaps. I could not get the 30 degrees. I ended
> up with 26 degrees. Based on previous comments
> on trim issues, I enlarged my elevator trim tab
> to full span. I can trim out flaps up to about
> 18-20 degrees. With full flap deflection I need to hold back stick
>
>George May
>zodiac 912s 44 hours
>
>
>>From: Paul Mulwitz <p.mulwitz@worldnet.att.net>
>>To: <zenith-list@matronics.com>
>>Subject: Zenith-List: XL Flaps: Maximum down deflection.
>>Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2007 12:18:08 -0800
>>
>>
>>I have been fighting with the flap actuator
>>motor on my XL and come up with a strange set
>>of design conflicts. The deflection called for
>>on sheet 6-S-3 calls for 30 degrees maximum
>>deflection, but the design shown on 6-B-19 can
>>only produce about 20 degrees of deflection.
>>
>>I spoke to Caleb at ZAC today and he promised
>>to look into this issue and get back to me. I
>>also wanted to ask list members if anyone has
>>run into this problem already. What flap
>>deflection have builders who finished their
>>XLs get? A related question (according to
>>Caleb) is whether the elevator trim can
>>neutralize the pitch changes with full flaps.
>>
>>I would appreciate any information related to XL flap deflection.
>>
>>Thanks,
>>
>>Paul
>>XL fuselage
>>
>>
>>-
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
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Great photos! Thanks for putting them out.
Do Not Archive
Craig Smith
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[mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of john H
Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2007 12:17 PM
Subject: Zenith-List: My Playground
Hi List
Got the winter blues? Project going slower than you would like? Well keep up
the work even if it is just a little everyday. It is all worth it. See
attachments
John
601HD 912ul 236hrs and still loving it
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| Subject: | XL Flaps: Maximum down deflection. |
I recall a number of messages a while ago where a number of folks reported
they rarely used their flaps at all.
-- Craig
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| Subject: | XL Flaps: Maximum down deflection. |
Full flaps ---27degrees --70mph and you'll come down at about 60 degrees
glide path
George May
601XL 912s --44 hours
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| Subject: | Re: A Few Questions for Scratchbuilders |
The locker panel is almost rectangular, but actually a trapezoid
(almost?). This is because the wing tapers a little bit at that
point. I suggest you start with it cut as a rectangle and adjust the
few mm needed as you fit it in place. If you build it according to
the photo guide, the bottom skin will already be riveted in place,
and I suggest you fit the angle that meets the top skin before trying
to drill pilot holes in the rear panel.
One issue to watch here is the orientation of the flanges on the rear
ribs surrounding the locker. The drawings are a little vague
(wrong?) on this point. The proper way is to have the flanges on the
rear ribs on both sides of the locker facing away from the
locker. This gives you a smooth side wall on both the inboard and
outboard side of the locker. If you get this wrong, the rear panel
for the locker will need to be a considerably different size.
Good luck,
Paul
XL fuselage
At 03:52 PM 2/7/2007, you wrote:
>The rear panel for the lockers is shown on the drawing as 498 mm
>length with sides of 225 and 218 mm. What isn't shown clearly are
>the angles in which these sides meet. I'm guessing that the top
>side is perpendicular to the 225 and 218 sides, but it could also be
>the case that this piece is cut trapezoidally, or even the
>perpendicular side could be the bottom????.
>
>Maybe I'm overlooking an obvious clue here; in case I am, please bear with me.
>
>Someone who has installed the lockers please clue me in on the
>correct way to cut this piece.
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| Subject: | One man Wing Flipper |
Needed a way to flip the wing over, so. . .
Got a 14 foot long piece of 3" SCH 40 PVC and rigged up a block & tackle to raise
and flip the wing. The PVC fits right through the lightening holes and the
block & tackle is a bicycle lift (has a brake to hold the height) that wasn't
being used. The wing turns real easy but needs a counter balance to level it
out for lowering / raising. Can be done by one man now.
See more at the kit log site.
--------
Ron Lendon, Clinton Township, MI
Corvair Zodiac XL, ScrapBuilder ;-)
http://www.mykitlog.com/rlendon
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http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=93541#93541
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http://forums.matronics.com//files/wing_flipper_003_666.jpg
http://forums.matronics.com//files/wing_flipper_001_208.jpg
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I've also been looking for a locking latch for my canopy, one of the best looking options I've seen so far is the DC696 from http://www.illinoislock.com. I'll have one in about a week, we'll see.
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Rich Whittington
Tullahoma, TN
Zenith 601HDS Under Construction
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| Subject: | XL Flaps: Maximum down deflection. |
live with 20 degrees and learn to slip to kill altitude
Juan
-----Original Message-----
>From: Paul Mulwitz <p.mulwitz@worldnet.att.net>
>Sent: Feb 7, 2007 7:15 PM
>To: zenith-list@matronics.com
>Subject: RE: Zenith-List: XL Flaps: Maximum down deflection.
>
>
>Thanks everyone. It sounds like Caleb was giving
>me straight skinny about the trim issue. I think
>I do have the latest trim tab design - inset into
>the elevator and taking much of one side. I
>still think the decision to reduce the flap
>deflection might have been related to the design
>problem as much as the trim issue, but I guess that doesn't really matter.
>
>Can anyone tell me if the full flaps (30 degrees)
>is really helpful in dumping altitude? Will 20
>degrees be a big improvement over no flaps at all?
>
>I guess my choices at this point are whether to
>settle for the current limit of 20 degrees or
>demand or design a larger deflection.
>
>Paul
>XL fuselage
>
>
>At 02:58 PM 2/7/2007, you wrote:
>>
>>Paul--
>> I fought the same issue when I built my
>> flaps. I could not get the 30 degrees. I ended
>> up with 26 degrees. Based on previous comments
>> on trim issues, I enlarged my elevator trim tab
>> to full span. I can trim out flaps up to about
>> 18-20 degrees. With full flap deflection I need to hold back stick
>>
>>George May
>>zodiac 912s 44 hours
>>
>>
>>>From: Paul Mulwitz <p.mulwitz@worldnet.att.net>
>>>To: <zenith-list@matronics.com>
>>>Subject: Zenith-List: XL Flaps: Maximum down deflection.
>>>Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2007 12:18:08 -0800
>>>
>>>
>>>I have been fighting with the flap actuator
>>>motor on my XL and come up with a strange set
>>>of design conflicts. The deflection called for
>>>on sheet 6-S-3 calls for 30 degrees maximum
>>>deflection, but the design shown on 6-B-19 can
>>>only produce about 20 degrees of deflection.
>>>
>>>I spoke to Caleb at ZAC today and he promised
>>>to look into this issue and get back to me. I
>>>also wanted to ask list members if anyone has
>>>run into this problem already. What flap
>>>deflection have builders who finished their
>>>XLs get? A related question (according to
>>>Caleb) is whether the elevator trim can
>>>neutralize the pitch changes with full flaps.
>>>
>>>I would appreciate any information related to XL flap deflection.
>>>
>>>Thanks,
>>>
>>>Paul
>>>XL fuselage
>>>
>>>
>>>-
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>_________________________________________________________________
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>>
>
>---------------------------------------------
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>32013 NE Dial Road
>Camas, WA 98607
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| Subject: | XL Flaps: Maximum down deflection. |
where I have an issue is on eleveator deflection, as I am only getting 26 degrees
up elevator, any thoughts or similar issues out there?
JUan
-----Original Message-----
>From: george may <gfmjr_20@HOTMAIL.COM>
>Sent: Feb 7, 2007 5:58 PM
>To: zenith-list@matronics.com
>Subject: RE: Zenith-List: XL Flaps: Maximum down deflection.
>
>
>Paul--
> I fought the same issue when I built my flaps. I could not get the 30
>degrees. I ended up with 26 degrees. Based on previous comments on trim
>issues, I enlarged my elevator trim tab to full span. I can trim out flaps
>up to about 18-20 degrees. With full flap deflection I need to hold back
>stick
>
>George May
>zodiac 912s 44 hours
>
>
>>From: Paul Mulwitz <p.mulwitz@worldnet.att.net>
>>To: <zenith-list@matronics.com>
>>Subject: Zenith-List: XL Flaps: Maximum down deflection.
>>Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2007 12:18:08 -0800
>>
>><p.mulwitz@worldnet.att.net>
>>
>>I have been fighting with the flap actuator motor on my XL and come up with
>>a strange set of design conflicts. The deflection called for on sheet
>>6-S-3 calls for 30 degrees maximum deflection, but the design shown on
>>6-B-19 can only produce about 20 degrees of deflection.
>>
>>I spoke to Caleb at ZAC today and he promised to look into this issue and
>>get back to me. I also wanted to ask list members if anyone has run into
>>this problem already. What flap deflection have builders who finished
>>their XLs get? A related question (according to Caleb) is whether the
>>elevator trim can neutralize the pitch changes with full flaps.
>>
>>I would appreciate any information related to XL flap deflection.
>>
>>Thanks,
>>
>>Paul
>>XL fuselage
>>
>>
>>-
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Decision on Carb Heat for Rotax 912 ULS!!!!!! |
It's not a prone to it, but it deos happen.
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| Subject: | Rotax 583 engine package |
Hey David, I enjoyed looking at the photos and mainly the link to Lodi
(the
DZ). I jumped there for few years in the late 80s and early 90s before
moving to Texas. I still jump but have not been back in Lodi to visit
Bill
and Kathy for many years so please tell them I said hello. I plan to
stop by
this summer over a weekend and make a few jumps, so I will look you up
and
take a closer look at your toys. Blue skies, Saad
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[mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of David
Mikesell
Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2007 11:56 AM
Subject: Zenith-List: Rotax 583 engine package
Rotax 583 90hp engine, both carbs, cdi unit (about 65 hrs tsn), 0 time
new
items include GPL starter, C box, tuned exhaust, Grand Rapids EIS with
fuel
flow and coolant pressure options. . Asking $ 6000 for all. Removed Rans
S12
new owner wanted 912, over $8000 invested.
David Mikesell
23597 N. Hwy 99
Acampo, CA 95220
209-224-4485
skyguynca@skyguynca.com
www.skyguynca.com
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