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1. 03:33 AM - Re: Zenith-List Digest: 24 Msgs - 02/06/07 (Tom Farin)
2. 05:09 AM - Re: Gull-wing Doors (steveadams)
3. 05:16 AM - Re: Gull-wing Doors (ashontz)
4. 06:44 AM - Re: CH 701 failed landing attempt (blackbird)
5. 07:17 AM - Re: Rivet Gun (C Smith)
6. 07:35 AM - Re: Rivet Gun (wade jones)
7. 07:51 AM - Re: Rivet Gun ()
8. 07:57 AM - Re: Rivit Gun (David Mikesell)
9. 08:09 AM - Re: Rivet Gun (Josh Wilson)
10. 08:31 AM - Re: Rivet Gun (Nancy)
11. 08:43 AM - Re: Rivet Gun (C Smith)
12. 09:15 AM - Re: Rivet Gun (Keith Ashcraft)
13. 09:24 AM - Riveter Heaven (Zed Smith)
14. 09:33 AM - Re: Rivet Gun ()
15. 09:44 AM - Re: Rivet Gun (JohnDRead@aol.com)
16. 10:08 AM - Re: Gull-wing Doors (caspainhower@aep.com)
17. 10:21 AM - Re: Rivet Gun ()
18. 10:29 AM - I didn't believe it till I saw it (Tommy Walker)
19. 11:02 AM - Re: Rivet Gun (Jaybannist@cs.com)
20. 11:07 AM - Re: Riveter Heaven (David Mikesell)
21. 12:04 PM - Re: CH 701 failed landing attempt (Bryan Martin)
22. 12:15 PM - Re: Rivet Gun (Aaron Gustafson)
23. 12:39 PM - Re: Rivet Gun (wade jones)
24. 01:10 PM - Re: Riveter Heaven (Trainnut01@aol.com)
25. 01:14 PM - Com Antenna Wingtip (japhillipsga@aol.com)
26. 01:51 PM - Re: Rivet Gun (Elwood140@aol.com)
27. 02:42 PM - Re: Rivet Gun (Keith Ashcraft)
28. 02:46 PM - Re: Re: Rivit Gun (Juan Vega)
29. 04:19 PM - Re: Re: Rivit Gun (Bill Naumuk)
30. 04:19 PM - Re: I didn't believe it till I saw it (Chris Lewis)
31. 04:24 PM - Re: Rivet Gun (Bill Naumuk)
32. 04:55 PM - Re: Rivet Gun (Aaron Gustafson)
33. 05:07 PM - Re: Rivet Gun (C Smith)
34. 05:47 PM - Landing Gear for CH701 Scatch built (Brian Bowen)
35. 05:52 PM - Re: Rivet Gun (JAPhillipsGA@aol.com)
36. 06:12 PM - Re: Rivet Gun (Terry Turnquist)
37. 06:19 PM - Re: Rivet Gun (Edward Moody II)
38. 07:17 PM - Re: Rivet Gun (Randy L. Thwing)
39. 07:22 PM - Re: Rivet Gun (Randy L. Thwing)
40. 07:27 PM - Re: Rivet Gun - cutting the forming feature in the nose. (Paul Mulwitz)
41. 07:33 PM - Re: Rivet Gun (Randy L. Thwing)
42. 07:44 PM - Routers (Ryan Vechinski)
43. 08:36 PM - Re: Routers (Afterfxllc@aol.com)
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| Subject: | RE: Zenith-List Digest: 24 Msgs - 02/06/07 |
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1. 12:39 AM - Re: Re: Carb Heat on Rotax 912 ULS? (Gary Gower)
2. 04:32 AM - Re: 801 Bottom Fuselage Skin (Tom Faulkner)
3. 06:07 AM - Re: 801 Bottom Fuselage Skin (n801bh@netzero.com)
4. 06:28 AM - Re: Re: Carb Heat on Rotax 912 ULS? (C Smith)
5. 07:00 AM - Re: Decision on Carb Heat for Rotax 912 ULS!!!!!! (David Austin)
6. 07:21 AM - Re: 801 Bottom Fuselage Skin (LarryMcFarland)
7. 08:07 AM - Re: Bing carb on Jab3300 (Tim Juhl)
8. 08:34 AM - Re: Bing carb on Jab3300 (T. Graziano)
9. 08:54 AM - Delay in Oil Cooler Duct - 701 Rotax Ring Mount (Harrison-Hutcheson)
10. 08:59 AM - Re: 801 Bottom Fuselage Skin801 Bottom Fuselage Skin (Maynard,
Brad)
11. 09:42 AM - Re: Re: Bing carb on Jab3300 (Pete Krotje)
12. 10:47 AM - Balistic Chute (Joe)
13. 11:36 AM - Re: 801 Bottom Fuselage Skin801 Bottom Fuselage Skin (Dave
Ruddiman)
14. 11:39 AM - Sheet metal brake (Ryan Vechinski)
15. 11:53 AM - Re: Balistic Chute (Craig Payne)
16. 12:13 PM - Re: Sheet metal brake (Craig Payne)
17. 12:37 PM - Re: Sheet metal brake (Administrator)
18. 12:40 PM - Re: Sheet metal brake (Administrator)
19. 01:28 PM - Re: Sheet metal brake (Paul Mulwitz)
20. 02:36 PM - Re: Balistic Chute ()
21. 04:34 PM - Re: Sheet metal brake (Ron Lendon)
22. 05:50 PM - Re: Sheet metal brake (Brandon Tucker)
23. 06:25 PM - Re: Sheet metal brake (Bill Naumuk)
24. 09:30 PM - Re: Sheet metal brake (Harold Klassen)
________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________
Time: 12:39:16 AM PST US
From: Gary Gower <ggower_99@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Re: Carb Heat on Rotax 912 ULS?
Yeah, Love the oriental massage :-)
Please Do Not Archive!!!
Couldnt resist :-) :-0
I agree that their web site is awful. I usually just call on the phone, they take
care of me.
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Zodiac 601 XL - CZAW Built - Rotax 912S
DO NOT ARCHIVE
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Time: 04:32:56 AM PST US
From: "Tom Faulkner" <tomtafcor@triton.net>
Subject: RE: Zenith-List: 801 Bottom Fuselage Skin
Dave:
The .016 works fine. Just be careful about dropping tools on it. I think
that it is a strength/weight issue. In this type of construction the skin
carries much of the loads. The belly stresses are such that some weight can
be saved with the .016.
Tom Faulkner
N801TP
80 hrs.
________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________
Time: 06:07:50 AM PST US
From: "n801bh@netzero.com" <n801bh@netzero.com>
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: 801 Bottom Fuselage Skin
..016 has worked out fine on my beast. As Larry said it is probably noisi
er but mine is so loud now I can't hear anything but horsepower. <G>. Al
so when you get ready to tie into the front bottom skin you will better
luck with the thinner stuff. The thicker skin will help give better pro
tection for those gear up landing though...
do not archive
Ben Haas
N801BH
www.haaspowerair.com
-- "Dave Ruddiman" <pacificpainting@comcast.net> wrote:
ast.net>
Larry,
I was planning on using .025 because that's what most of the rest is. I'
m
not disputing your suggestion but, why .020 instead of .025? Do you have
any
idea why the thinner material on the belly where it seems like it would
need
the protection?
Thanks,
Dave
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| Subject: | Re: Gull-wing Doors |
I am sure that you could adapt a similar designed canopy to the 601, however it
would have to be built from scratch, not a modification of the 640 canopy because
the dimensions are all different. In the 640 it is a structural component
of the fuselage, tying the upper 1/2 of the firewall into the fuselage. It is
also quite complex, made completely of carbon fiber, with many areas a sandwiched
structure with an inner and outer layup. Since it wouldn't be primarily structural
in a 601, you could probably make a much simpler design and use fiberglass
rather than carbon fiber however it would have to be pretty sturdy to give
adequate support to the doors and the roll over protection you are looking
for.
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| Subject: | Re: Gull-wing Doors |
steveadams wrote:
> I am sure that you could adapt a similar designed canopy to the 601, however
it would have to be built from scratch, not a modification of the 640 canopy because
the dimensions are all different. In the 640 it is a structural component
of the fuselage, tying the upper 1/2 of the firewall into the fuselage. It
is also quite complex, made completely of carbon fiber, with many areas a sandwiched
structure with an inner and outer layup. Since it wouldn't be primarily
structural in a 601, you could probably make a much simpler design and use fiberglass
rather than carbon fiber however it would have to be pretty sturdy to
give adequate support to the doors and the roll over protection you are looking
for. Also, being a very well made $4000 piece of the 640, it is definitely
not cheap.
Good info. I was wondering it was structural or not in the 640. Obviously it wouldn't
be in the 601XL so the contruction woould be easier. I'm going to have
to look into this.
--------
CH601XL - Corvair
www.mykitlog.com/ashontz
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| Subject: | Re: CH 701 failed landing attempt |
Thanks guys for the imput..........I am currently building a Kolbra.....
I knew that a lot of people watch these lists.....Matt sure does a great job.
Once again thanks for the information.
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http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=94969#94969
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Anyone have the SKU for the sale price? I just searched HF for "rivet" and
lowest price I could find on the 93458-3VGA 3/16 air hyd. Riveter is 26.99.
As for convenience of use..
Rodney, have you tried a swivel hose attachment?
ITEM 46123-2VGA
Or
ITEM 7535-3VGA
Thanks for the tip.
Craig Smith
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of David Mikesell
Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2007 1:26 AM
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Rivet Gun
--> <skyguynca@skyguynca.com>
I have been using Harbor Freight rivet pullers for years. I have even pulled
Cherry #6 with them repairing working rivets on DeHavilland Twin Otter
struts. Best deal out there, my oldest one is 4 years old and still working
without a problem.
David Mikesell
23597 N. Hwy 99
Acampo, CA 95220
209-224-4485
skyguynca@skyguynca.com
www.skyguynca.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Rodney Mills" <Ramills@charter.net>
Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2007 9:47 PM
Subject: Zenith-List: Rivet Gun
>
> Listers,
> I purchased the rivet gun from Zenith and have used it to build with up to
> now. I have always had trouble with the recoil and creating smiley's even
> with pressure set as low as possible and flow controls being used. I
> recently purchased the gun from Harbor Freight and tried it today
> installing wing skins. This gun has very little or no recoil, no bounce
> and not a smiley on the entire skin. The Harbor Freight gun is not as
> comfortable to use and the air line is in an awkward position but the
> results in my case were far superior to my Zenith supplied gun. I will be
> buying another one of the Harbor Freight guns. If anyone is interested
> they are in the current sale catalog for $19.99. What a deal , What a
> deal. Just thought if anyone was looking for their first gun or a spare
> this is worth looking at. I paid over $70 for Zenith gun and would not buy
> again. Inquiring minds may want to know.
>
> Rodney Mills
> Northport, Al
> 601XL/ Corvair
>
>
>
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Hey Craig ,The catalog for HF is 881-C ,Key on back is BD3713 .Item #
93458-4BDB $19.99 . Hope this helps
Wade Jones South Texas
601XL plans building
Cont. 0200
----- Original Message -----
From: "C Smith" <pilot4profit@sbcglobal.net>
Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2007 9:17 AM
Subject: RE: Zenith-List: Rivet Gun
>
> Anyone have the SKU for the sale price? I just searched HF for "rivet" and
> lowest price I could find on the 93458-3VGA 3/16 air hyd. Riveter is
> 26.99.
> As for convenience of use..
> Rodney, have you tried a swivel hose attachment?
> ITEM 46123-2VGA
> Or
> ITEM 7535-3VGA
>
> Thanks for the tip.
> Craig Smith
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of David
> Mikesell
> Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2007 1:26 AM
> To: zenith-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Rivet Gun
>
> --> <skyguynca@skyguynca.com>
>
> I have been using Harbor Freight rivet pullers for years. I have even
> pulled
> Cherry #6 with them repairing working rivets on DeHavilland Twin Otter
> struts. Best deal out there, my oldest one is 4 years old and still
> working
> without a problem.
>
>
> David Mikesell
> 23597 N. Hwy 99
> Acampo, CA 95220
> 209-224-4485
> skyguynca@skyguynca.com
> www.skyguynca.com
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Rodney Mills" <Ramills@charter.net>
> To: <zenith-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2007 9:47 PM
> Subject: Zenith-List: Rivet Gun
>
>
>>
>> Listers,
>> I purchased the rivet gun from Zenith and have used it to build with up
>> to
>
>> now. I have always had trouble with the recoil and creating smiley's even
>> with pressure set as low as possible and flow controls being used. I
>> recently purchased the gun from Harbor Freight and tried it today
>> installing wing skins. This gun has very little or no recoil, no bounce
>> and not a smiley on the entire skin. The Harbor Freight gun is not as
>> comfortable to use and the air line is in an awkward position but the
>> results in my case were far superior to my Zenith supplied gun. I will be
>> buying another one of the Harbor Freight guns. If anyone is interested
>> they are in the current sale catalog for $19.99. What a deal , What a
>> deal. Just thought if anyone was looking for their first gun or a
>> spare
>
>> this is worth looking at. I paid over $70 for Zenith gun and would not
>> buy
>
>> again. Inquiring minds may want to know.
>>
>> Rodney Mills
>> Northport, Al
>> 601XL/ Corvair
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
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Last time I checked their site you have to go thru several pages to locate the
various models with different prices. I think I also remember a sale item link
on their home page. The various guns all look the same but have different prices.
I do use a swivel attachment and it is a good idea.
Dred
Do Not Archive
---- C Smith <pilot4profit@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
> Anyone have the SKU for the sale price? I just searched HF for "rivet" and
> lowest price I could find on the 93458-3VGA 3/16 air hyd. Riveter is 26.99.
> As for convenience of use..
> Rodney, have you tried a swivel hose attachment?
> ITEM 46123-2VGA
> Or
> ITEM 7535-3VGA
>
> Thanks for the tip.
> Craig Smith
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Here is a link to the one I have been using. I have two of them and both
work fine. The one I have had for 4 years is a bit bigger than this one
but they don't make it anymore.
http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/Displayitem.taf?itemnumber=93458
David Mikesell
23597 N. Hwy 99
Acampo, CA 95220
209-224-4485
skyguynca@skyguynca.com
www.skyguynca.com
----- Original Message -----
From: John Brumpton
To: skyguynca@skyguynca.com
Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2007 2:14 AM
Subject: Rivit Gun
Hi David
Could you tell me the make & model of riviter you purchased & possibly
a link would be appreciated
Thanks
John
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I built the tail section with the rivet gun and also
had trouble with smiley's...I started using the hand
riveter on the wings and I was surprised how quickly
that went...It seems like a lot of rivets to pull by
hand, but the hand riveter works great...
Working on wings
--- C Smith <pilot4profit@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> <pilot4profit@sbcglobal.net>
>
> Anyone have the SKU for the sale price? I just
> searched HF for "rivet" and
> lowest price I could find on the 93458-3VGA 3/16 air
> hyd. Riveter is 26.99.
> As for convenience of use..
> Rodney, have you tried a swivel hose attachment?
> ITEM 46123-2VGA
> Or
> ITEM 7535-3VGA
>
> Thanks for the tip.
> Craig Smith
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On
> Behalf Of David Mikesell
> Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2007 1:26 AM
> To: zenith-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Rivet Gun
>
> --> <skyguynca@skyguynca.com>
>
> I have been using Harbor Freight rivet pullers for
> years. I have even pulled
> Cherry #6 with them repairing working rivets on
> DeHavilland Twin Otter
> struts. Best deal out there, my oldest one is 4
> years old and still working
> without a problem.
>
>
> David Mikesell
> 23597 N. Hwy 99
> Acampo, CA 95220
> 209-224-4485
> skyguynca@skyguynca.com
> www.skyguynca.com
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Rodney Mills" <Ramills@charter.net>
> To: <zenith-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2007 9:47 PM
> Subject: Zenith-List: Rivet Gun
>
>
> <Ramills@charter.net>
> >
> > Listers,
> > I purchased the rivet gun from Zenith and have
> used it to build with up to
>
> > now. I have always had trouble with the recoil and
> creating smiley's even
> > with pressure set as low as possible and flow
> controls being used. I
> > recently purchased the gun from Harbor Freight and
> tried it today
> > installing wing skins. This gun has very little or
> no recoil, no bounce
> > and not a smiley on the entire skin. The Harbor
> Freight gun is not as
> > comfortable to use and the air line is in an
> awkward position but the
> > results in my case were far superior to my Zenith
> supplied gun. I will be
> > buying another one of the Harbor Freight guns. If
> anyone is interested
> > they are in the current sale catalog for $19.99.
> What a deal , What a
> > deal. Just thought if anyone was looking for
> their first gun or a spare
>
> > this is worth looking at. I paid over $70 for
> Zenith gun and would not buy
>
> > again. Inquiring minds may want to know.
> >
> > Rodney Mills
> > Northport, Al
> > 601XL/ Corvair
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
> browse
> Subscriptions page,
> FAQ,
> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Zenith-List
>
> Web Forums!
>
>
>
>
>
http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=list&sid=396546091
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Listers,
I also use one from H.F. I use a regulator at the compressor
and one of their swivels with an adjustable restrictor at the gun so it
pulls the rivet at a slower speed. Works great.
Lynn
601XL / Corvair Building fuselage currently
----- Original Message -----
From: "Rodney Mills" <Ramills@charter.net>
Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2007 12:47 AM
Subject: Zenith-List: Rivet Gun
>
> Listers,
> I purchased the rivet gun from Zenith and have used it to build with up
> to now. I have always had trouble with the recoil and creating smiley's
> even with pressure set as low as possible and flow controls being used.
> I recently purchased the gun from Harbor Freight and tried it today
> installing wing skins. This gun has very little or no recoil, no bounce
> and not a smiley on the entire skin. The Harbor Freight gun is not as
> comfortable to use and the air line is in an awkward position but the
> results in my case were far superior to my Zenith supplied gun. I will
> be buying another one of the Harbor Freight guns. If anyone is
> interested they are in the current sale catalog for $19.99. What a deal
> , What a deal. Just thought if anyone was looking for their first gun
> or a spare this is worth looking at. I paid over $70 for Zenith gun and
> would not buy again. Inquiring minds may want to know.
>
> Rodney Mills
> Northport, Al
> 601XL/ Corvair
>
>
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Thanks a bunch Wade, that's exactly what I needed!
Do not archive
Craig Smith
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of wade jones
Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2007 10:34 AM
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Rivet Gun
--> <wjones@brazoriainet.com>
Hey Craig ,The catalog for HF is 881-C ,Key on back is BD3713 .Item #
93458-4BDB $19.99 . Hope this helps
Wade Jones South Texas
601XL plans building
Cont. 0200
----- Original Message -----
From: "C Smith" <pilot4profit@sbcglobal.net>
Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2007 9:17 AM
Subject: RE: Zenith-List: Rivet Gun
> --> <pilot4profit@sbcglobal.net>
>
> Anyone have the SKU for the sale price? I just searched HF for "rivet"
> and lowest price I could find on the 93458-3VGA 3/16 air hyd. Riveter
> is 26.99.
> As for convenience of use..
> Rodney, have you tried a swivel hose attachment?
> ITEM 46123-2VGA
> Or
> ITEM 7535-3VGA
>
> Thanks for the tip.
> Craig Smith
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All, I have received one of these types of rivet guns for Christmas, (my
wife), but haven't had any time to use it. I did read through the
directions, about the "Priming" part. Mine does have some oil in it, but
I am not sure if the amout is correct. The directions are very "UNCLEAR"
about how much oil to add. It just says fill the cap full, What Cap?
Any info would be helpfull.
Keith
CH701 -- not riveting, but cutting and forming ribs
****************************************************************
Rodney Mills wrote:
>
> Listers,
> I purchased the rivet gun from Zenith and have used it to build with
> up to now. I have always had trouble with the recoil and creating
> smiley's even with pressure set as low as possible and flow controls
> being used. I recently purchased the gun from Harbor Freight and tried
> it today installing wing skins. This gun has very little or no recoil,
> no bounce and not a smiley on the entire skin. The Harbor Freight gun
> is not as comfortable to use and the air line is in an awkward
> position but the results in my case were far superior to my Zenith
> supplied gun. I will be buying another one of the Harbor Freight
> guns. If anyone is interested they are in the current sale catalog
> for $19.99. What a deal , What a deal. Just thought if anyone was
> looking for their first gun or a spare this is worth looking at. I
> paid over $70 for Zenith gun and would not buy again. Inquiring minds
> may want to know.
>
> Rodney Mills
> Northport, Al
> 601XL/ Corvair
>
>
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do not archive
Listers and Lurkers,
Like many, I purchased the ZAC-supplied clunker. Not one, but TWO. Boy was that
a mistake!
To make a short story shorter, I bought a PRG510 made by Emhart (firm which makes
the POP brand, and other, rivets).
A REAL regulator (not just a pinch-off needle valve) and this gun, makes riveting
easy, smooth, etc.
If you've ever welded with a "cracker box" welder, then used a smooth DC machine,
you'll know what difference there was in that deal.
Same with the PRG510. The trigger is "variable"......you can pull a rivet as slowly
as you wish. It is not a snap-action process leaving smiley faces, dents,
screwed-up crooked rivets, etc.
They ain't cheap, but it is a darned good piece of equipment. The Emhart web site
has pdf's showing parts; and you can get repair work.....not that you'll need
it.
Try getting replacement parts for those twenty-dollar items from Harold's Frate
& Hamburgers.
One other comment....a "burr" will deform/hollow-out the Emhart nosepiece same
as those supplied by ZAC.
If you purchase one of these, look over the pdf's first; get all the nose pieces
& extras to drill out on the same order. Comes with a short "whip" hose, you
supply quick-connect to air line.
Don't own stock in Emhart.
Regards to all,
Zed/701/912/90-plus percent/not the "baby's daddy"
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Not sure about the priming amount Keith. I've had one since 2002 and it has built
two ultralights and is still working on the 601XL. All I have done is to put
2 - 4 drops of light machine oil, like 3 in 1 oil, in the inlet before every
use. That has worked fine for mine.
Dred
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---- Keith Ashcraft <keith.ashcraft@itt.com> wrote:
> All, I have received one of these types of rivet guns for Christmas, (my
> wife), but haven't had any time to use it. I did read through the
> directions, about the "Priming" part. Mine does have some oil in it, but
> I am not sure if the amout is correct. The directions are very "UNCLEAR"
> about how much oil to add. It just says fill the cap full, What Cap?
>
> Any info would be helpfull.
>
> Keith
> CH701 -- not riveting, but cutting and forming ribs
> ****************************************************************
>
> Rodney Mills wrote:
>
> >
> > Listers,
> > I purchased the rivet gun from Zenith and have used it to build with
> > up to now. I have always had trouble with the recoil and creating
> > smiley's even with pressure set as low as possible and flow controls
> > being used. I recently purchased the gun from Harbor Freight and tried
> > it today installing wing skins. This gun has very little or no recoil,
> > no bounce and not a smiley on the entire skin. The Harbor Freight gun
> > is not as comfortable to use and the air line is in an awkward
> > position but the results in my case were far superior to my Zenith
> > supplied gun. I will be buying another one of the Harbor Freight
> > guns. If anyone is interested they are in the current sale catalog
> > for $19.99. What a deal , What a deal. Just thought if anyone was
> > looking for their first gun or a spare this is worth looking at. I
> > paid over $70 for Zenith gun and would not buy again. Inquiring minds
> > may want to know.
> >
> > Rodney Mills
> > Northport, Al
> > 601XL/ Corvair
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
> --
>
> *************************************
>
> *Keith Ashcraft*
>
> ITT
>
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>
> Colorado Springs, CO
>
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>
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>
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>
> keith.ashcraft@itt.com
>
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Did the Zenith nose piece fit the HF gun?
John Read
CH701 in Colorado slats and all!
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| Subject: | Re: Gull-wing Doors |
I considered gull-wing doors also, there are a few flying out there. I
ended up designing cantilever hinges so I could have a permanent windshield
and rear opening canopy. I had Todd at www.toddscanopies.com build a custom
canopy with a little extra headroom and a more gradual rear slope. For the
scratch builders out there, he produces an excellent product at a
reasonable price.
Craig
N601XS, 601xl, 0-235 lyc, wiring/plumbing left
I see no reason why that can't be easily adaptable to the CH601XL. If you
ask me
the CH2000 looks just like a CH601XL except with a hardtop canopy.
Doesn't even look all that difficult to make, unless I'm missing something.
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John, the gun I got from Harbor Freight and the gun I got with the tool kit through
Zenith do not share the same nose pieces. I didn't even try to modify the
HF nose pieces.... I shipped a set back to Zenith and they did them for a small
fee.
Dred
---- JohnDRead@aol.com wrote:
> Did the Zenith nose piece fit the HF gun?
>
> John Read
> CH701 in Colorado slats and all!
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| Subject: | I didn't believe it till I saw it |
You guys may have seen this 701 on UTube, but I missed it.
I didn't know it would do that, plus I'm not sure I would even try.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PAN6jzbhEAw
Plus, here's another longer one.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O7DIVkrMIOU
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I sidestepped the whole pneumatic riveter bit. I discovered an electric drill
attachment called RiveDrill, from Isham, Inc. I actually used two of them, one
set up for A4 rivets and one for A5s. I nearly broke my hands pulling A5s before
I got the RiveDrill. Makes pulling rivets a cinch with no chance of smileys.
Tight spots still require a hand puller. I got one from Ace Hardware with
a swiveling head that works much better than the one I got from ZAC. I cupped
the nose pieces myself, with good results. (I don't work for RiveDrill,
Isham or Ace, but I can sure vouch for their products)
Jay in Dallas
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| Subject: | Re: Riveter Heaven |
I have a regulator at my airdyer and one at the gun, real regulators and
it makes pulling very smooth with no recoil.
David Mikesell
23597 N. Hwy 99
Acampo, CA 95220
209-224-4485
skyguynca@skyguynca.com
www.skyguynca.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Zed Smith" <zsmith3rd@earthlink.net>
Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2007 9:24 AM
Subject: Zenith-List: Riveter Heaven
>
> do not archive
>
> Listers and Lurkers,
>
> Like many, I purchased the ZAC-supplied clunker. Not one, but TWO. Boy
> was that a mistake!
>
> To make a short story shorter, I bought a PRG510 made by Emhart (firm
> which makes the POP brand, and other, rivets).
>
> A REAL regulator (not just a pinch-off needle valve) and this gun, makes
> riveting easy, smooth, etc.
>
> If you've ever welded with a "cracker box" welder, then used a smooth DC
> machine, you'll know what difference there was in that deal.
> Same with the PRG510. The trigger is "variable"......you can pull a rivet
> as slowly as you wish. It is not a snap-action process leaving smiley
> faces, dents, screwed-up crooked rivets, etc.
>
> They ain't cheap, but it is a darned good piece of equipment. The Emhart
> web site has pdf's showing parts; and you can get repair work.....not that
> you'll need it.
> Try getting replacement parts for those twenty-dollar items from Harold's
> Frate & Hamburgers.
>
> One other comment....a "burr" will deform/hollow-out the Emhart nosepiece
> same as those supplied by ZAC.
>
> If you purchase one of these, look over the pdf's first; get all the nose
> pieces & extras to drill out on the same order. Comes with a short "whip"
> hose, you supply quick-connect to air line.
>
> Don't own stock in Emhart.
>
> Regards to all,
>
> Zed/701/912/90-plus percent/not the "baby's daddy"
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: CH 701 failed landing attempt |
Well, if no one on the list has one to sell, you can contact Zenith.
info@zenithair.com I'm sure they can sell you one.
>
>
> Can anyone tell us where to get a leading edge slat for the right wing...
>
> Neither of us are builders....He would like to buy one...
>
--
Bryan Martin
Zenith 601XL N61BM
Ram Subaru, Stratus redrive
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Everybody spends money somewhere. Some here some there. I got a Huck 175
riveter. Lots of power, no kick back, very compact and light, lots of money!
I'm happy.
Aaron Gustafson 601 HD 11 years fly in two months????? 0-200 do not
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Hey Keith ,I had the same questions . Use as is ,just add a couple of
drops of the oil supplied into the air inlet of the rivet gun . Mine has
caused no problems after pulling a couple thousand rivets (lots more to
go ).
Do not Archive
Wade Jones South Texas
601XL plans building
Cont. 0200
----- Original Message -----
From: Keith Ashcraft
To: zenith-list@matronics.com
Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2007 11:15 AM
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Rivet Gun
All, I have received one of these types of rivet guns for Christmas,
(my wife), but haven't had any time to use it. I did read through the
directions, about the "Priming" part. Mine does have some oil in it, but
I am not sure if the amout is correct. The directions are very "UNCLEAR"
about how much oil to add. It just says fill the cap full, What Cap?
Any info would be helpfull.
Keith
CH701 -- not riveting, but cutting and forming ribs
****************************************************************
Rodney Mills wrote:
<Ramills@charter.net>
Listers,
I purchased the rivet gun from Zenith and have used it to build with
up to now. I have always had trouble with the recoil and creating
smiley's even with pressure set as low as possible and flow controls
being used. I recently purchased the gun from Harbor Freight and tried
it today installing wing skins. This gun has very little or no recoil,
no bounce and not a smiley on the entire skin. The Harbor Freight gun is
not as comfortable to use and the air line is in an awkward position
but the results in my case were far superior to my Zenith supplied gun.
I will be buying another one of the Harbor Freight guns. If anyone is
interested they are in the current sale catalog for $19.99. What a deal
, What a deal. Just thought if anyone was looking for their first gun
or a spare this is worth looking at. I paid over $70 for Zenith gun and
would not buy again. Inquiring minds may want to know.
Rodney Mills
Northport, Al
601XL/ Corvair
--
*************************************
Keith Ashcraft
ITT
5009 Centennial Blvd.
Colorado Springs, CO
80919
(719) 599-1787 -- work
(719) 332-4364 -- cell
keith.ashcraft@itt.com
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| Subject: | Re: Riveter Heaven |
I too had problems with the ZAC riveter. Bought a second one because there
just "had to be something wrong with that thing." Second riveter didn't help.
Then I bought a real air pressure regulator and all my problems went away.
Now I have very little recoil, no smileys and a riveter for both sizes of
rivets. I even got really lazy and bought a second regulator so I don't have to
readjust when I change rivet sizes.
CJ
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| Subject: | Com Antenna Wingtip |
Dear Thread Friends, anybody ever install one of the Bob Archer type com antenna
in their wingtips ? How was it to install and what kind of performance do you
achieve ? I think I remember an article in Kitplanes some years ago detailing
how to build it. Does anybody remember same or have the article ? best regards,
Bill of Georgia N505WP 601XL-3300 104 hours
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In a message dated 2/14/2007 2:17:06 P.M. Central Standard Time,
agustafson@chartermi.net writes:
Everybody spends money somewhere. Some here some there. I got a Huck 175
riveter. Lots of power, no kick back, very compact and light, lots of money!
I'm happy.
Aaron, I'm convinced. Where can one buy a Huck 175?
Larry Wood
(N701LW will fly this year?)
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All, thanks for the info.
Keith
*************************************************************************
wade jones wrote:
> Hey Keith ,I had the same questions . Use as is ,just add a couple of
> drops of the oil supplied into the air inlet of the rivet gun . Mine
> has caused no problems after pulling a couple thousand rivets (lots
> more to go ).
> Do not Archive
> Wade Jones South Texas
> 601XL plans building
> Cont. 0200
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Keith Ashcraft <mailto:keith.ashcraft@itt.com>
> *To:* zenith-list@matronics.com <mailto:zenith-list@matronics.com>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, February 14, 2007 11:15 AM
> *Subject:* Re: Zenith-List: Rivet Gun
>
> All, I have received one of these types of rivet guns for
> Christmas, (my wife), but haven't had any time to use it. I did
> read through the directions, about the "Priming" part. Mine does
> have some oil in it, but I am not sure if the amout is correct.
> The directions are very "UNCLEAR" about how much oil to add. It
> just says fill the cap full, What Cap?
>
> Any info would be helpfull.
>
> Keith
> CH701 -- not riveting, but cutting and forming ribs
> ****************************************************************
>
> Rodney Mills wrote:
>
>> <Ramills@charter.net>
>>
>> Listers,
>> I purchased the rivet gun from Zenith and have used it to build
>> with up to now. I have always had trouble with the recoil and
>> creating smiley's even with pressure set as low as possible and
>> flow controls being used. I recently purchased the gun from
>> Harbor Freight and tried it today installing wing skins. This gun
>> has very little or no recoil, no bounce and not a smiley on the
>> entire skin. The Harbor Freight gun is not as comfortable to use
>> and the air line is in an awkward position but the results in my
>> case were far superior to my Zenith supplied gun. I will be
>> buying another one of the Harbor Freight guns. If anyone is
>> interested they are in the current sale catalog for $19.99. What
>> a deal , What a deal. Just thought if anyone was looking for
>> their first gun or a spare this is worth looking at. I paid over
>> $70 for Zenith gun and would not buy again. Inquiring minds may
>> want to know.
>>
>> Rodney Mills
>> Northport, Al
>> 601XL/ Corvair
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
> --
>
> *************************************
>
> *Keith Ashcraft*
>
> ITT
>
> 5009 Centennial Blvd.
>
> Colorado Springs, CO
>
> 80919
>
> (719) 599-1787 -- work
>
> (719) 332-4364 -- cell
>
> keith.ashcraft@itt.com
>
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list,
switching from the rivet duhick thing for a minute, is everyone getting the suggested
deflection on the elevator of 27 plus degrees up elevator. I have struggled
to get there. I checked dimensions of all pieces of control structure and
all are to specs. I asked the question before with no response from anyone..
DOes that mean everyone's elevator throws are as per plans?
Juan
-----Original Message-----
>From: David Mikesell <skyguynca@skyguynca.com>
>Sent: Feb 14, 2007 10:55 AM
>To: zenith-list@matronics.com, John Brumpton <jkbrumpt@sa.chariot.net.au>
>Subject: Zenith-List: Re: Rivit Gun
>
>Here is a link to the one I have been using. I have two of them and both work
fine. The one I have had for 4 years is a bit bigger than this one but they don't
make it anymore.
>
>http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/Displayitem.taf?itemnumber=93458
>
>
>David Mikesell
>23597 N. Hwy 99
>Acampo, CA 95220
>209-224-4485
>skyguynca@skyguynca.com
>www.skyguynca.com
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: John Brumpton
> To: skyguynca@skyguynca.com
> Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2007 2:14 AM
> Subject: Rivit Gun
>
>
> Hi David
> Could you tell me the make & model of riviter you purchased & possibly a link
would be appreciated
> Thanks
> John
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Dave-
I got the little HF riveter on a super sale for $19.95 to try it
out. I figured if it didn't work, I was only out $20.
I absolutely love it! Perfect pull every time and no contribution to
your carpal tunnel.
One thing. They give you maybe 3cc of oil and say "Don't overfill".
I used the whole capsule and it took probably 500 rivets to get the
riveter to quit spraying oil all over my hands!
Good building.
do not archive
Bill Naumuk
HDS Fuselage
Townville, Pa
----- Original Message -----
From: David Mikesell
To: zenith-list@matronics.com ; John Brumpton
Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2007 10:55 AM
Subject: Zenith-List: Re: Rivit Gun
Here is a link to the one I have been using. I have two of them and
both work fine. The one I have had for 4 years is a bit bigger than this
one but they don't make it anymore.
http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/Displayitem.taf?itemnumber=93458
David Mikesell
23597 N. Hwy 99
Acampo, CA 95220
209-224-4485
skyguynca@skyguynca.com
www.skyguynca.com
----- Original Message -----
From: John Brumpton
To: skyguynca@skyguynca.com
Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2007 2:14 AM
Subject: Rivit Gun
Hi David
Could you tell me the make & model of riviter you purchased &
possibly a link would be appreciated
Thanks
John
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| Subject: | Re: I didn't believe it till I saw it |
There's a photo on the Zenith Website showing a Swedish 701 just about to nose
over and it says "Don't try this at home" Interesting that they'd post it...
Chris in Seattle
--------
701 Scratch Builder
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John-
I used a ball mill in my drill press to cut the majority of the
concave recess, then touched it up with a Dremel. Chuck a rivet and
insert it in the nosepiece hole to line things up, then clamp in your
vise. Took me maybe 15 minutes to do the whole set.
do not archive
Bill Naumuk
HDS Fuselage
Townville, Pa
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From: JohnDRead@aol.com
To: zenith-list@matronics.com
Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2007 12:42 PM
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Rivet Gun
Did the Zenith nose piece fit the HF gun?
John Read
CH701 in Colorado slats and all!
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>>> Where can one buy a Huck 175?
Google Huck AK-175 and search for best price. REMEMBER I said it was
"lots of money".
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try
http://www.toolsusa.com/asp/item_detail.asp?T1=PBE+RSR+4766
<http://www.toolsusa.com/asp/item_detail.asp?T1=PBE+RSR+4766&GENB=&UID>
&GENB=&UID
or
http://www.sjdiscounttools.com/hucak175a.html
or
http://www.toolfetch.com/Category--Air_Tools--Specialty_Air_Tool--HUCAK175A.
shtml
and
http://www.alcoa.com/fastening_systems/commercial/en/product.asp?cat_id=564
<http://www.alcoa.com/fastening_systems/commercial/en/product.asp?cat_id=564
&prod_id=2859> &prod_id=2859
Just a few from a quick Google
Craig Smith
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From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
Elwood140@aol.com
Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2007 4:51 PM
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Rivet Gun
In a message dated 2/14/2007 2:17:06 P.M. Central Standard Time,
agustafson@chartermi.net writes:
Everybody spends money somewhere. Some here some there. I got a Huck 175
riveter. Lots of power, no kick back, very compact and light, lots of money!
I'm happy.
Aaron, I'm convinced. Where can one buy a Huck 175?
Larry Wood
(N701LW will fly this year?)
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| Subject: | Landing Gear for CH701 Scatch built |
Hi there,
Anyone out there gone through the process of bending the main landing gear
spring?
Really could use some input or thoughts on this mystery.
Thanks
brianbowen_@hotmail.com
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>From January 26 to February 8, 2007
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This is getting to be another "Scotchbrite" thread. One would think that a
fine group of brilliant and distinguished gentleman such as ourselves, would
have another topic that really needs the hell beat out of it ? Bill of Georgia
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Yeah, Bill...about as spellbinding as aluminum polishing. I can't wait till the
next post! LOL
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Terry
JAPhillipsGA@aol.com wrote:
This is getting to be another "Scotchbrite" thread. One would think that a fine
group of brilliant and distinguished gentleman such as ourselves, would have
another topic that really needs the hell beat out of it ? Bill of Georgia
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Rookie question here Bill. Where can I buy a ball mill?
Dred
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From: Bill Naumuk
To: zenith-list@matronics.com
Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2007 6:25 PM
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Rivet Gun
John-
I used a ball mill in my drill press to cut the majority of the
concave recess, then touched it up with a Dremel. Chuck a rivet and
insert it in the nosepiece hole to line things up, then clamp in your
vise. Took me maybe 15 minutes to do the whole set.
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Bill Naumuk
HDS Fuselage
Townville, Pa
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>From the archives:
The Dremel works fine and fast, use a small green round ball (silicon
carbide) or any other stone that has a point or round end, Put the
riviet
gun head in the lathe chuck and while spinning it, fire off the
moto-tool,
hold it with both hands braced against whatever is nearby, and shape the
end
in a nice conical shape, starting from the hole in the center and
working
outward, keep the cone shallow, you can always go deeper. No gottem
lathe?
Sure you do, put your fastest turning pistol grip drill motor in your
workbench vise, usually upside down with pistol grip up, (up is towards
the
sky for you airplane builders!) tighten vise enough to hold drill case,
not
crushing it where the armature will never turn again! Place the rivet
head
in the drill chuck and lock the trigger back and grind away. Takes
longer
to describe than to do, finish with emery cloth if your stones grind
course.
Hope this helps.
Regards,
Randy L. Thwing, 701/plans
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John-
I used a ball mill in my drill press to cut the majority of the
concave recess, then touched it up with a Dremel. Chuck a rivet and
insert it in the nosepiece hole to line things up, then clamp in your
vise. Took me maybe 15 minutes to do the whole set.
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Bill Naumuk
HDS Fuselage
Townville, Pa
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At any supply house for machine shop tooling. Bill, what diameter mill
did you use for each size? Accomplishing the job solely with the Dremel
works fine as per previous instructions. For ALL machine shop needs go
here:
www.mscdirect.com
Randy L. Thwing, Las Vegas do not archive
----- Original Message -----
From: Edward Moody II
To: zenith-list@matronics.com
Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2007 6:19 PM
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Rivet Gun
Rookie question here Bill. Where can I buy a ball mill?
Dred
----- Original Message -----
From: Bill Naumuk
To: zenith-list@matronics.com
Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2007 6:25 PM
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Rivet Gun
John-
I used a ball mill in my drill press to cut the majority of the
concave recess, then touched it up with a Dremel. Chuck a rivet and
insert it in the nosepiece hole to line things up, then clamp in your
vise. Took me maybe 15 minutes to do the whole set.
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Bill Naumuk
HDS Fuselage
Townville, Pa
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| Subject: | Re: Rivet Gun - cutting the forming feature in the nose. |
Hi Ed,
You can buy a ball end mill at Traver's tool or MSC or any number of
other cutting tool places. I tried that the first time to make the
concave cutout in the riveter nose piece with medium results. I got
much better results with a little round stone or steel cutter in a
Dremmel tool.
When I did my nose pieces I mounted the old nose piece in a metal
lathe and cut the curved spot in the face of the nose piece while
turning the lathe. For those who don't have a metal lathe handy, you
can probably do just as well my mounting the nose piece in a drill
press or even a hand drill and spinning it while grinding and/or
cutting the face. It helps if you start by marking the outside
diameter of the cutout on the nosepiece with a magic marker before
you start. This will be the same size as the round flat part of the
rivet before setting.
I went through a process of cutting the nose piece and then testing
its use on the desired rivets. I checked for the shape I wanted and
flat edges against the "Skin" of the riveted piece. Adjustments can
be made in one direction by making the concave shape
deeper. Adjustments in the other direction can be made by filing the
end of the nose piece down a little. Finishing of the nose piece can
be done with abrasive cloth or even the dreaded Scotchbrite pads.
Paul
XL fuselage
>Rookie question here Bill. Where can I buy a ball mill?
>
>Dred
>
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A small point Bill:
Some noses are hardened, did you have to anneal the nose prior to
using the end mill? If one tries to use a end mill on a hardened nose,
you could easily ruin your new end mill. If you go this route, try
filing a non critical area of the nose with the corner of a file. If a
file skates on the surface, it is hardened. If the file cuts a groove,
it is not. If your file won't cut it, your HSS end mill won't cut it.
Now a very spendy SOLID tungsten carbide end mill will cut hardened
steel, but is not worth the cost for this job. Dremel grinding stones
(abrasives) don't care if the steel is hard or not.
Regards,
Randy L. Thwing, Las Vegas do not archive
John-
I used a ball mill in my drill press to cut the majority of the
concave recess, then touched it up with a Dremel. Chuck a rivet and
insert it in the nosepiece hole to line things up, then clamp in your
vise. Took me maybe 15 minutes to do the whole set.
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Bill Naumuk
HDS Fuselage
Townville, Pa
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List, I was looking at routers today, as I think I am going to buy one
to help with rib forms, and I'm going to try the routing method for
cutting rib blanks. Does it make a difference when cutting aluminum to
get a variable speed router? I will only use this for the airplane, so
I don't need a wood worker's dream router; just something to last a
little while.
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I try and cut as much as I can with a router... you can get by with the
cheapest one you can find but what matters is the bit. Get a really good laminate
bit with a bearing and you will love the clean straight edges you will end
up with.
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