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1. 03:30 AM - routers (Brett Hanley)
2. 04:07 AM - Re: Routers (MacDonald Doug)
3. 06:02 AM - Re: Routers (Ryan Vechinski)
4. 06:21 AM - Re: Rivet Gun (Jaybannist@cs.com)
5. 06:42 AM - Radio Problem (Al Young)
6. 07:04 AM - Re: Routers (C Smith)
7. 07:33 AM - Re: Routers (Dino Bortolin)
8. 07:39 AM - Re: Landing Gear for CH701 Scatch built (Keith Ashcraft)
9. 08:05 AM - Re: Radio problem (Zed Smith)
10. 10:46 AM - Re: routers (j. davis)
11. 11:30 AM - Help!!!! (Zed Smith)
12. 12:01 PM - Rivet gun (Rodney Mills)
13. 12:12 PM - Not exactly aircraft (Trainnut01@AOL.COM)
14. 12:34 PM - Re: Not exactly aircraft (Clyde Barcus)
15. 12:35 PM - Re: Radio Problem (Bryan Martin)
16. 12:42 PM - Re: Not exactly aircraft (NYTerminat@aol.com)
17. 12:50 PM - Re: Not exactly aircraft (Trainnut01@aol.com)
18. 12:52 PM - Re: Help!!!! (Bryan Martin)
19. 12:56 PM - Re: Radio Problem (japhillipsga@aol.com)
20. 01:13 PM - Re: Not exactly aircraft (Bryan Martin)
21. 01:28 PM - "Transitions" lenses (George Swinford)
22. 01:50 PM - Re: "Transitions" lenses (Crvsecretary@aol.com)
23. 01:59 PM - Re: Help!!!! (William Condon)
24. 02:10 PM - Re: Help!!!! (Ryan Vechinski)
25. 02:44 PM - Re: Not exactly aircraft (ken smith)
26. 03:30 PM - 601 xl looking for some dimension (alex_001)
27. 03:45 PM - Re: (David Downey)
28. 03:54 PM - Re: "Transitions" lenses (George Swinford)
29. 04:01 PM - Re: Not exactly aircraft (Bill Naumuk)
30. 04:13 PM - Re: Radio Problem (Al Young)
31. 04:16 PM - Rivet Gun (Mike O'Connor)
32. 04:22 PM - Re: Help!!!! (Bryan Martin)
33. 04:33 PM - Re: Rivet Gun (Bill Naumuk)
34. 04:37 PM - Re: Rivet Gun (Bryan Martin)
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I have a good bit of experience with routers. I like the Rigged laminate t
rim router from Home Depot the best for cutting thin aluminum. It will acc
ept a Porter Cable template guide in its base. Also a good carbide straigh
t flute bit of 1/8 or 1/4 depending on what size template guide you have.
Grizzly Tool Company as a great book out on the use of a routers. With the
right templates and a little skill it is one of the most versatile tools i
n the shop.=0A =0ABrett
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Personally, I used a basic older Sears router mounted
in my fathers home made router table. With a little
practice it work quite well.
A couple of items worth mentioning are first, be
prepared for a mess. My Dad's table has a 4hp shopvac
connected to a dust hood and aluminum shavings still
got everywhere. Second, make darn sure that you have
both eye and ear protection while using a router. The
high pitch whine is the perfect frequency and volume
to destroy hearing over a relatively short period of
time(just ask dear old Dad). The eye protection is
due to all of the metal shavings flying around.
Another item to keep in mind is, keep the amount you
are trimming less than the diameter of the router bit.
I found the vibration level too high if you try
cutting with more than one side of the router bit.
Overall this is an excellent way to cut parts blanks.
A quick touch-up with a file or flapper disk
(Homebuilthelp.com scratchbuilding video) and you are
all set for flanging. It is a good place to start on
a project to get used to working with aluminum.
Hope this info is of some use
I suppose this could be a good tip for the Archives.
Doug MacDonald
CH-701 Scratch Builder
NW Ontario, Canada
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Thanks for the replies everyone.
I have a couple of Porter Cable router bits, which I've heard are good
quality. They have worked fine on wood so far.
Anyone have any comment on the variable speed routers? Do I need that
option before cutting aluminum?
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of MacDonald
Doug
Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2007 6:07 AM
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Routers
Personally, I used a basic older Sears router mounted
in my fathers home made router table. With a little
practice it work quite well.
A couple of items worth mentioning are first, be
prepared for a mess. My Dad's table has a 4hp shopvac
connected to a dust hood and aluminum shavings still
got everywhere. Second, make darn sure that you have
both eye and ear protection while using a router. The
high pitch whine is the perfect frequency and volume
to destroy hearing over a relatively short period of
time(just ask dear old Dad). The eye protection is
due to all of the metal shavings flying around.
Another item to keep in mind is, keep the amount you
are trimming less than the diameter of the router bit.
I found the vibration level too high if you try
cutting with more than one side of the router bit.
Overall this is an excellent way to cut parts blanks.
A quick touch-up with a file or flapper disk
(Homebuilthelp.com scratchbuilding video) and you are
all set for flanging. It is a good place to start on
a project to get used to working with aluminum.
Hope this info is of some use
I suppose this could be a good tip for the Archives.
Doug MacDonald
CH-701 Scratch Builder
NW Ontario, Canada
Sitting on the wheels (temporarily) for the first
time.
No need to miss a message. Get email on-the-go
with Yahoo! Mail for Mobile. Get started.
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If the nose piece is hardened, you can easily "soften" it. Just heat it up to a
cherry red with a propane torch and let it cool (don't quench). Then you can
shape it with a Dremel and a metal-cutting bit or an abrasive bit. I found the
metal cutting bit best. This procedure will not substantially decrease the
durability of the nose piece.
Jay in Dallas
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"Randy L. Thwing" <n4546v@mindspring.com> wrote:
>A small point Bill:
> Some noses are hardened, did you have to anneal the nose prior to using the
end mill? If one tries to use a end mill on a hardened nose, you could easily
ruin your new end mill. If you go this route, try filing a non critical area
of the nose with the corner of a file. If a file skates on the surface, it
is hardened. If the file cuts a groove, it is not. If your file won't cut it,
your HSS end mill won't cut it. Now a very spendy SOLID tungsten carbide end
mill will cut hardened steel, but is not worth the cost for this job. Dremel
grinding stones (abrasives) don't care if the steel is hard or not.
>
>Regards,
>
>Randy L. Thwing, Las Vegas do not archive
>
>
>John-
> I used a ball mill in my drill press to cut the majority of the concave
recess, then touched it up with a Dremel. Chuck a rivet and insert it in the
nosepiece hole to line things up, then clamp in your vise. Took me maybe 15 minutes
to do the whole set.
> do not archive
> Bill Naumuk
> HDS Fuselage
> Townville, Pa
>
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Here is my set up: Ky-97A comm- Flightcom 403 intercom- Allen grip
control (trim-PTT).
Problem: Won't transmit. I can receive other xmissions and the TX
lights up on the Ky97A when I push the PTT from either control (Pilot
or Co-Pilot) If you listen to another radio, you can hear a weak
carrier when you push the PTT but no voice. I can't get the plane to a
Avionics shop since I have not flown off the req 40 hrs yet. The radio
has been sent out to a avionics shop and declared as OK. Any thoughts?
Thanks in advance.
Al Young
N601AY
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Hope this doesn't start a flame, but has anyone seen the new Sears craftsman
CNC router.
http://www.sears.com/sr/javasr/product.do?vertical=TOOL&cat=Bench+Power+Tool
s&subcat=Jointers%2C+Planers+%26+Shapers&pid=00921754000&BV_UseBVCookie=Yes
It's pricey, but it seems a group of builders could pool together and turn
out some pretty decent parts. The table accepts stock up to 14.5" wide and
an unlimited length. Heck, you could start up a co-op to produce parts fast
and cheap.
I just thought it was interesting.
Craig Smith
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I'm using an old, basic Rotozip-style router, single speed, that my
brother picked up at a yard sale for $5. It cuts aluminum beautifully
and I haven't wished for anything fancier. I also bought a round-over
bit which I use to radius the form blocks.
Dino Bortolin
La Salle, Ontario
XL/Corvair
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| Subject: | Re: Landing Gear for CH701 Scatch built |
Brian, I sent you an email to your personal address, with some information.
Keith
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| Subject: | Re: Radio problem |
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Try another microphone or headset.
If that doesn't work check your wiring. It is real easy to get on the wrong pin
if you went directly to the rear of the radio. It is also easy to reverse MIC
HIGH & Ground. Moulded plastic plugs usually have extremely small, little
bitty, tiny, invisible, hard-to-read letters/numbers moulded into the plug shell.
A giant magnifying glass and proper lighting will help.
If you have the usual mic/earphone set of jacks (one larger in diameter than the
other) and the intercom is in the mix, try bypassing the intercom. In other
words, walk through it one piece of equipment at a time......make the radio work
from each input first, then add the intercom. The solder tabs on typical
mic/ear jacks are easy to mis-connect......eyeball carefully.
Bottom line is this: If it was bench-checked and found okay then it is some minor
error in the wiring and therefore you will never find it because all the trees
are obscured by the forest........really difficult to find one's own mistake.
Regards,
Zed//etc
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See how I did it: http://cleco.ca then click Homebuilding
How-to then Routed Ribs. No variable speed, cut 10-12 blanks
at a time!
Brett Hanley wrote:
> -->
> I have a good bit of experience with routers. I like the Rigged
> laminate trim router from Home Depot the best for cutting thin
> aluminum. It will accept a Porter Cable template guide in its base.
> Also a good carbide straight flute bit of 1/8 or 1/4 depending on what
> size template guide you have. Grizzly Tool Company as a great book out
> on the use of a routers. With the right templates and a little skill it
> is one of the most versatile tools in the shop.
>
> Brett
>
> *
>
>
> *
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flying: Zenith STOL CH701/912 C-IGGY, 350 hrs.
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do not archive, please!
List,
If memory serves, there are some members who are either engineers or mathmaticians,
or both.
The attached isn't directly airplane-related, but the source of the attachment
tells me there was/is a pilot involved.
Anyway, the question is: What, exactly, is the amount involved?
Must have been some spirited/heated discussions earlier.
Regards to all,
Let the "NOT AIRCRAFT RELATED" flames begin.
Zed
pdf attached
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Guys
Not to beat a dead horse but I do have a proper regulator and a flow
restrictor on my Zenith supplied gun--no help with recoil. John, my nose
pieces supplied with the Zenith gun do fit my HF gun.
Rodney Mills
601XL/ Corvair
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| Subject: | Not exactly aircraft |
Hey Gang
Has any one had any experience using "Transitions" eyeglass lenses in the
cockpit? I almost bought a pair today but was told that they react to
ultraviolet light and that the plexiglass canopy would screen out the UV and prevent
the lenses from darkening. Thought someone on the list might know. I don't
want to spend $750.00 on an experiment.
Carroll Jernigan
601XL Wings (still)
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| Subject: | Re: Not exactly aircraft |
I am believe they are right, I bought transitions but the tinted
windshield in my van prevented the lenses from working. I had to go back
to prescription sunglasses.
Regards
Clyde Barcus
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----- Original Message -----
From: Trainnut01@aol.com
To: zenith-list@matronics.com
Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2007 2:09 PM
Subject: Zenith-List: Not exactly aircraft
Hey Gang
Has any one had any experience using "Transitions" eyeglass lenses in
the cockpit? I almost bought a pair today but was told that they react
to ultraviolet light and that the plexiglass canopy would screen out the
UV and prevent the lenses from darkening. Thought someone on the list
might know. I don't want to spend $750.00 on an experiment.
Carroll Jernigan
601XL Wings (still)
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| Subject: | Re: Radio Problem |
If the radio checks out good and you can recieve well, the antenna is
good. The problem must be in the microphone wiring, the intercomm or
the intercomm to comm connections.
On Feb 15, 2007, at 9:41 AM, Al Young wrote:
> Here is my set up: Ky-97A comm- Flightcom 403 intercom- Allen grip
> control (trim-PTT).
> Problem: Won't transmit. I can receive other xmissions and the TX
> lights up on the Ky97A when I push the PTT from either control
> (Pilot or Co-Pilot) If you listen to another radio, you can hear a
> weak carrier when you push the PTT but no voice. I can't get the
> plane to a Avionics shop since I have not flown off the req 40 hrs
> yet. The radio has been sent out to a avionics shop and declared
> as OK. Any thoughts? Thanks in advance.
> Al Young
> N601AY
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N61BM, CH 601 XL,
RAM Subaru, Stratus redrive.
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| Subject: | Re: Not exactly aircraft |
I use mine all the time in a 701, no problem, why $750.00?
Bob Spudis
In a message dated 2/15/2007 3:14:39 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
Trainnut01@aol.com writes:
Hey Gang
Has any one had any experience using "Transitions" eyeglass lenses in the
cockpit? I almost bought a pair today but was told that they react to
ultraviolet light and that the plexiglass canopy would screen out the UV and prevent
the lenses from darkening. Thought someone on the list might know. I don't
want to spend $750.00 on an experiment.
Carroll Jernigan
601XL Wings (still)
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| Subject: | Re: Not exactly aircraft |
$750.00 was the first quote from my eye doctor' I'll be shopping that price
before I buy.
Carroll
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0.002 + 535.492 + 1.000 = $536.494
On Feb 15, 2007, at 2:29 PM, Zed Smith wrote:
> do not archive, please!
>
> List,
>
> If memory serves, there are some members who are either engineers
> or mathmaticians, or both.
>
> The attached isn't directly airplane-related, but the source of the
> attachment tells me there was/is a pilot involved.
>
> Anyway, the question is: What, exactly, is the amount involved?
>
> Must have been some spirited/heated discussions earlier.
>
> Regards to all,
>
> Let the "NOT AIRCRAFT RELATED" flames begin.
>
> Zed
>
> pdf attached
> <PhoneBillPayment.pdf>
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RAM Subaru, Stratus redrive.
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| Subject: | Re: Radio Problem |
Al, that sounds much like my set up. I had a similar problem. Could receive fine,
but when transmitting a high pitch whine accompanied the words. Fix was a separate
ground wire from the headset jacks up to the main ground buss bar. I had
thought the baggage deck where the jacks were mounted was ground enough, but
not so. The separate wire fixed the problem. Maybe it will fix yours. I talked
to David Cotton couple weeks ago. He said he finally got his plane parts to
his hanger in Winder and was running control cables. I will try to find time
to fly up there to help/ look see, but this RV-8 is using most every moment of
my time so I have to have priorities. Best regards, Bill of Georgia
-----Original Message-----
From: armyret@mchsi.com
Sent: Thu, 15 Feb 2007 9:41 AM
Subject: Zenith-List: Radio Problem
Here is my set up: Ky-97A comm- Flightcom 403 intercom- Allen grip control (trim-PTT).
Problem: Won't transmit. I can receive other xmissions and the TX lights up on
the Ky97A when I push the PTT from either control (Pilot or Co-Pilot) If you
listen to another radio, you can hear a weak carrier when you push the PTT but
no voice. I can't get the plane to a Avionics shop since I have not flown
off the req 40 hrs yet. The radio has been sent out to a avionics shop and declared
as OK. Any thoughts? Thanks in advance.
Al Young
N601AY
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| Subject: | Re: Not exactly aircraft |
According to this: http://www.plexiglas.com/literature/pdf/81.pdf
Standard Plexiglas blocks the shorter UV waves but lets in some of
the longer waves. Some plexiglas is treated to block even more UV.
I know they don't work in a car. They are activated by the UV in
sunlight but I don't know which band of UV activates them. I don't
recall if the pair I had would darken in the cockpit or not. I don't
think they did. I should take them out to the plane some day and try
it. Personally, I would never buy them again, You need to have a
separate pair of sunglasses while driving anyway, and I'm pretty sure
I had to wear sunglasses in the plane also.
On Feb 15, 2007, at 3:09 PM, Trainnut01@aol.com wrote:
> Hey Gang
> Has any one had any experience using "Transitions" eyeglass lenses
> in the cockpit? I almost bought a pair today but was told that they
> react to ultraviolet light and that the plexiglass canopy would
> screen out the UV and prevent the lenses from darkening. Thought
> someone on the list might know. I don't want to spend $750.00 on an
> experiment.
> Carroll Jernigan
> 601XL Wings (still)
>
--
Bryan Martin
N61BM, CH 601 XL,
RAM Subaru, Stratus redrive.
do not archive.
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| Subject: | "Transitions" lenses |
Carroll:
I wear bifocals with polycarbonate lenses. The lenses are
photosensitive, they darken in sunlight. They do not darken in
automobiles or airplanes. I am quite satisfied with them. I don't know
the brand of the lenses. I have a pair of prescription sunglasses for
flying, but often I find that I don't need them.
The $750 sounds excessive to me. My optometrist will replace both pairs
of glasses for less than that. I suggest shopping around some.
George
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| Subject: | Re: "Transitions" lenses |
George:
I, too, wear bifocals with the Transitions photosensitive coating. Mine,
however, are glass and not plastic....I seem to be very hard on glasses and
they scratch very easily.
I believe your polycarbonate lenses are much more scratch-resistant. Have
you had regular plastic lenses so as to make a comparison?
The no-line bifocals I am wearing right now, with new wire frames with
spring-loaded temples and Transitions coating came from Costco for $150.00.
Tracy Smith
N458XL (reserved)
601XL
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In a message dated 2/15/2007 4:29:20 PM Eastern Standard Time,
grs-pms@comcast.net writes:
Carroll:
I wear bifocals with polycarbonate lenses. The lenses are photosensitive,
they darken in sunlight. They do not darken in automobiles or airplanes. I
am quite satisfied with them. I don't know the brand of the lenses. I have a
pair of prescription sunglasses for flying, but often I find that I don't
need them.
The $750 sounds excessive to me. My optometrist will replace both pairs of
glasses for less than that. I suggest shopping around some.
George
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$0.002 + $(-1) + $1 = $0.002
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bryan Martin
Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2007 9:52 PM
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Help!!!!
0.002 + 535.492 + 1.000 = $536.494
On Feb 15, 2007, at 2:29 PM, Zed Smith wrote:
> do not archive, please!
>
> List,
>
> If memory serves, there are some members who are either engineers
> or mathmaticians, or both.
>
> The attached isn't directly airplane-related, but the source of the
> attachment tells me there was/is a pilot involved.
>
> Anyway, the question is: What, exactly, is the amount involved?
>
> Must have been some spirited/heated discussions earlier.
>
> Regards to all,
>
> Let the "NOT AIRCRAFT RELATED" flames begin.
>
> Zed
>
> pdf attached
> <PhoneBillPayment.pdf>
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Bryan Martin
N61BM, CH 601 XL,
RAM Subaru, Stratus redrive.
do not archive.
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Bryan, I believe the numeral preceding the "pi" is an "i", and not a "2". That
would make the second argument equivalent to "cos(pi)", which is -1. So the
total check would be $0.002. Must have been charging him for less than a penny??
do not archive
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> From: bryanmmartin@comcast.net
> Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Help!!!!
> Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2007 15:52:07 -0500
> To: zenith-list@matronics.com
>
>
> 0.002 + 535.492 + 1.000 = $536.494
>
> On Feb 15, 2007, at 2:29 PM, Zed Smith wrote:
>
> > do not archive, please!
> >
> > List,
> >
> > If memory serves, there are some members who are either engineers
> > or mathmaticians, or both.
> >
> > The attached isn't directly airplane-related, but the source of the
> > attachment tells me there was/is a pilot involved.
> >
> > Anyway, the question is: What, exactly, is the amount involved?
> >
> > Must have been some spirited/heated discussions earlier.
> >
> > Regards to all,
> >
> > Let the "NOT AIRCRAFT RELATED" flames begin.
> >
> > Zed
> >
> > pdf attached
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Bryan Martin
> N61BM, CH 601 XL,
> RAM Subaru, Stratus redrive.
> do not archive.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Not exactly aircraft |
I have been flying with transition lens sunglasses for
the past 2 years. The are the greates thing. You are
able the see distance,the gages, and the charts very
clearly. I have never experiecd any problem with the
plexi windshields on the C172, Piper, or the 601XL.
ken
--- Trainnut01@aol.com wrote:
> Hey Gang
> Has any one had any experience using "Transitions"
> eyeglass lenses in the
> cockpit? I almost bought a pair today but was told
> that they react to
> ultraviolet light and that the plexiglass canopy
> would screen out the UV and prevent
> the lenses from darkening. Thought someone on the
> list might know. I don't
> want to spend $750.00 on an experiment.
> Carroll Jernigan
> 601XL Wings (still)
>
> do not archive
>
Don't get soaked. Take a quick peak at the forecast
with the Yahoo! Search weather shortcut.
http://tools.search.yahoo.com/shortcuts/#loc_weather
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| Subject: | 601 xl looking for some dimension |
hello can someone help me with the dimensions x and y? it is for my 601 xl rtf
waiting on delivery.
Also looking for drawing and dimentions for footroom (Y control stick) to get carpets
made.
thanks for your help
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| Subject: | Re: Zenith-List: |
Thanks Juan.
amd plane parked in Lantana FLA has dual stick dual throttle, flew it this week
end. Dual throttle was a waste of space due to the fact that the center (copilot)
throttle was more convenient than right hand on stick and left throttle for
pilot. Save you self the hassle if going dual stck, and go single center throttle.
Juan
-----Original Message-----
>From: David Downey
>Sent: Feb 13, 2007 5:04 PM
>To: zenith-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Re: Zenith-List:
>
>Has anyone use a dual stick, dual throttle setup? that is sort of what I had been
thinking of (you know, a side by side tandem!)
>
>japhillipsga@aol.com wrote: Jay, I also have dual sticks in my XL and I had thought
I would use the single throttle in the center somewhere. Instead I have
the duals with spin friction locks. It is a little more work and $ to install
two throttles, but as a right handed guy I like landing with my most coordinated
hand on the stick and left hand on the go ball. If I was left handed the center
throttle would be preferred for me. This question is a preference point only
your taste in flying can answer. I have a couple hundred hours in 152,172
and Warriors and I always had to land left handed and I knew the other way would
work better for me. Best regards, Bill of Georgia N505WP 601XL-3300 105 hours
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Jaybannist@cs.com
>To: zenith-list@matronics.com
>Sent: Thu, 8 Feb 2007 2:35 PM
>Subject: RE: Zenith-List:
>
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> Dave Downey
> Harleysville (SE) PA
> Zodiac 601XL/Corvair?
>
>
>
>---------------------------------
Dave Downey
Harleysville (SE) PA
Zodiac 601XL/Corvair?
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Don't pick lemons.
See all the new 2007 cars at Yahoo! Autos.
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| Subject: | Re: "Transitions" lenses |
Since I switched from glass lenses, mine have all been polycarbonate.
They are quite a bit lighter than glass. I think they have a higher
index of refraction. I know that they are thinner. I have had no
scratch problems, and I am not particularly careful.
George
----- Original Message -----
From: Crvsecretary@aol.com
To: zenith-list@matronics.com
Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2007 1:49 PM
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: "Transitions" lenses
George:
I, too, wear bifocals with the Transitions photosensitive coating.
Mine, however, are glass and not plastic....I seem to be very hard on
glasses and they scratch very easily.
I believe your polycarbonate lenses are much more scratch-resistant.
Have you had regular plastic lenses so as to make a comparison?
The no-line bifocals I am wearing right now, with new wire frames with
spring-loaded temples and Transitions coating came from Costco for
$150.00.
Tracy Smith
N458XL (reserved)
601XL
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In a message dated 2/15/2007 4:29:20 PM Eastern Standard Time,
grs-pms@comcast.net writes:
Carroll:
I wear bifocals with polycarbonate lenses. The lenses are
photosensitive, they darken in sunlight. They do not darken in
automobiles or airplanes. I am quite satisfied with them. I don't know
the brand of the lenses. I have a pair of prescription sunglasses for
flying, but often I find that I don't need them.
The $750 sounds excessive to me. My optometrist will replace both
pairs of glasses for less than that. I suggest shopping around some.
George
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| Subject: | Re: Not exactly aircraft |
I've worn them since they were known as "Photo-gray" and recommend
them.
I thought $400 for glass trifocal transitions were expensive (Glass
lasts scratches much better than plastic) but your does your optometrist
wear a mask? $750??!!
Bill Naumuk
HDS Fuselage
Townville, Pa
----- Original Message -----
From: Trainnut01@aol.com
To: zenith-list@matronics.com
Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2007 3:09 PM
Subject: Zenith-List: Not exactly aircraft
Hey Gang
Has any one had any experience using "Transitions" eyeglass lenses in
the cockpit? I almost bought a pair today but was told that they react
to ultraviolet light and that the plexiglass canopy would screen out the
UV and prevent the lenses from darkening. Thought someone on the list
might know. I don't want to spend $750.00 on an experiment.
Carroll Jernigan
601XL Wings (still)
do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: Radio Problem |
Many thanks Bill- Give David my best. Regards, Al Do Not Archive.
----- Original Message -----
From: japhillipsga@aol.com
To: zenith-list@matronics.com
Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2007 2:55 PM
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Radio Problem
Al, that sounds much like my set up. I had a similar problem. Could
receive fine, but when transmitting a high pitch whine accompanied the
words. Fix was a separate ground wire from the headset jacks up to the
main ground buss bar. I had thought the baggage deck where the jacks
were mounted was ground enough, but not so. The separate wire fixed the
problem. Maybe it will fix yours. I talked to David Cotton couple weeks
ago. He said he finally got his plane parts to his hanger in Winder and
was running control cables. I will try to find time to fly up there to
help/ look see, but this RV-8 is using most every moment of my time so I
have to have priorities. Best regards, Bill of Georgia
-----Original Message-----
From: armyret@mchsi.com
To: zenith-list@matronics.com
Sent: Thu, 15 Feb 2007 9:41 AM
Subject: Zenith-List: Radio Problem
Here is my set up: Ky-97A comm- Flightcom 403 intercom- Allen grip
control (trim-PTT).
Problem: Won't transmit. I can receive other xmissions and the TX
lights up on the Ky97A when I push the PTT from either control (Pilot
or Co-Pilot) If you listen to another radio, you can hear a weak
carrier when you push the PTT but no voice. I can't get the plane to a
Avionics shop since I have not flown off the req 40 hrs yet. The radio
has been sent out to a avionics shop and declared as OK. Any thoughts?
Thanks in advance.
Al Young
N601AY
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Time: 09:46:49 PM PST US
From: Rodney Mills <Ramills@charter.net>
Subject: Zenith-List: Rivet Gun
Does the HF rivet puller come with the appropriately cupped socket to
form the head of the rivet? Does it support the different rivet sizes
used on the XL kit?
Thanks,
Mike
Listers,
I purchased the rivet gun from Zenith and have used it to build with up
to now. I have always had trouble with the recoil and creating smiley's
even with pressure set as low as possible and flow controls being used.
I recently purchased the gun from Harbor Freight and tried it today
installing wing skins. This gun has very little or no recoil, no bounce
and not a smiley on the entire skin. The Harbor Freight gun is not as
comfortable to use and the air line is in an awkward position but the
results in my case were far superior to my Zenith supplied gun. I will
be buying another one of the Harbor Freight guns. If anyone is
interested they are in the current sale catalog for $19.99. What a deal
, What a deal. Just thought if anyone was looking for their first gun
or a spare this is worth looking at. I paid over $70 for Zenith gun and
would not buy again. Inquiring minds may want to know.
Rodney Mills
Northport, Al
601XL/ Corvair
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I though It was e^2pi. After zooming in I see you're right. Now it
makes more sense.
> <brothapig@hotmail.com>
>
>
> Bryan, I believe the numeral preceding the "pi" is an "i", and not
> a "2". That would make the second argument equivalent to "cos
> (pi)", which is -1. So the total check would be $0.002. Must have
> been charging him for less than a penny??
>
--
Bryan Martin
N61BM, CH 601 XL,
RAM Subaru, Stratus redrive.
do not archive.
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All-
Contrary to my namesake's opinion, this is different from the
Scotchbrite thread, because people are asking for information rather
than excreting opinions.
1. I didn't anneal my nosepieces, but it might have made the job
easier.
2. If you use a ball mill, you'll still have to smooth things up
with a Dremel. You'll have a more centered pull with one, though. It's
really hard to stay centered using a Dremel offhand.
Which brings up a third option. Anneal the nosepiece, chuck the
stone you'd use in a Dremel in your drillpress, center using a rivet,
crank your drillpress speed up to max and have at it.
Evolution, not revolution.
do not archive
Bill Naumuk
HDS Fuselage
Townville, Pa
----- Original Message -----
From: JAPhillipsGA@aol.com
To: zenith-list@matronics.com
Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2007 8:52 PM
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Rivet Gun
This is getting to be another "Scotchbrite" thread.
do not archive
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The HF riveter I have came with four different nose pieces 3/32,
1/8, 5/32 and 3/16. You have to make the domed cavity yourself or
have ZAC do it for you. It's not hard to do. I also ordered extra 1/8
and 5/32 heads so I have a set without the cavities. My riveter
lasted through the entire build process and is still going strong. If
I was doing this sort of thing for a living, I would probably buy a
more expensive unit that would last forever under heavy daily use.
For the relatively small amount of use I need it for, the cheap HF
unit does the job and when it finally bites the dust, I'm only out
$20. I've gotten my money's worth out of it.
On Feb 15, 2007, at 7:16 PM, Mike O'Connor wrote:
> Time: 09:46:49 PM PST US
> From: Rodney Mills <Ramills@charter.net>
> Subject: Zenith-List: Rivet Gun
>
> Does the HF rivet puller come with the appropriately cupped socket
> to form the head of the rivet? Does it support the different rivet
> sizes used on the XL kit?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Mike
>
--
Bryan Martin
N61BM, CH 601 XL,
RAM Subaru, Stratus redrive.
do not archive.
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