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1. 12:49 AM - Re: Navaid AP1 Autopilot for 601xl (alex_001)
2. 03:09 AM - Re: Strobes, part II (George Race)
3. 03:12 AM - HomeBuilt Help does it (Rick R)
4. 05:42 AM - Re: 601 XL w/ Corvair PowerPlant (Jason)
5. 06:37 AM - Re: Aluminum sheet. (LarryMcFarland)
6. 06:41 AM - Re: 1st Hundred Hours of Building (XL) (ashontz)
7. 06:52 AM - Re: Thank You Mark Townsend! (Tim Juhl)
8. 06:54 AM - Re: Aluminum sheet. (Dave Ruddiman)
9. 08:04 AM - Re: Aluminum sheet. (LarryMcFarland)
10. 09:15 AM - Re: Diesel Zenith (ashontz)
11. 12:18 PM - Re: 601 XL w/ Corvair PowerPlant (Phil Maxson)
12. 12:44 PM - Re: 601 XL w/ Corvair PowerPlant (Gig Giacona)
13. 01:25 PM - Re: Diesel Zenith (2thesky)
14. 01:52 PM - Re: 3300 Exhaust (aprazer)
15. 02:33 PM - Re: Parking brake (aprazer)
16. 03:22 PM - Re: Re: 1st Hundred Hours of Building (XL) (Edward Moody II)
17. 03:53 PM - Re: 1st Hundred Hours of Building (XL) (ashontz)
18. 04:02 PM - Re: Re: Strobes, part II (Bill Naumuk)
19. 04:17 PM - Re: Strobes, part II (Bill Naumuk)
20. 05:52 PM - Re: Parking brake (Brandon Tucker)
21. 08:00 PM - nose gear dimensions (Dave Ruddiman)
22. 09:23 PM - Re: nose gear dimensions (Dave Ruddiman)
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| Subject: | Re: Navaid AP1 Autopilot for 601xl |
yes got in touch with navaid and got a manual (great help) as my AP1 is with smart
couplerII build in what is missing now is the way how to connect the signal
from the GPS(Garmin295) to the 12 pin socket
for more help i would be very thankfull
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| Subject: | RE: Strobes, part II |
Hi Bill:
Here are a some strobes for you to consider. www.aristuff.com has them.
Bright Star SR901C Clear Lens $49.00
Kuntzleman Strobe Double Wink KU001 $138.00
Illusion Strobe ILA25 $119.00
Several different styles to choose from.
George
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| Subject: | HomeBuilt Help does it |
Fellow builders..this is an unpaid plug.:
Two weeks ago I sat down and watched "How to License Your Homebuilt Aircraft".
As Jon suggested I got to know my DVD player's remote on an intimate level.
Yesterday I received an oblong postcard from the FAA which turned out to be a
Certificate of Aircraft Registration ! ! Plus it appears I'm an aircraft manufacturer..go
figure..look out General Dynamics..here I come!
N701RR is officially registered. I'm sure part two, the inspection paperwork
will yield the same results!
Thanks Jon...a million times over ! !
Low & Slow,
Rick
Rick
Sharpsburg, GA. USA
http://www.n701rr.com
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| Subject: | Re: 601 XL w/ Corvair PowerPlant |
I should be so lucky as to be able to stroll on over to talk with WW about this
and get a demo ride on his 601. *grins* I think he's a pretty busy guy right
about now, so I'm not going to pester him when I don't even have an engine to
tinker with(however, did order and recieve his conversion manual).
Thanks for all your thoughts, I'm not sure if the 1320 is a "hard" limit, I'm assuming
that for us we should treat it as a hard cieling, but am glad to know
that more than a few of the XL/Corvair planes have and do fly loaded with some
healthy sized guys aboard without problem.
Jason
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| Subject: | Re: Aluminum sheet. |
Dave,
Aircraft Spruce is the most direct with concern for good packaging
practices at $46.57 for a 4'x8' 6061-T6.
Phone 877-477-7823 Peachtree, GA. There is a California outlet.
Larry McFarland 601HDS at www.macsmachine.com
do not archive
Dave Ruddiman wrote:
> I know this has been gone over before, but where is a good place to
> buy .025 sheeting for a belly skin.
>
> Dave in Salem
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| Subject: | Re: 1st Hundred Hours of Building (XL) |
[quote="4rcsimmons(at)comcast.net"]Im a above the 400 hours mark and am on the
Fuselage sides.
Wings done and Tail section done.
Rich Simmons
601 XL
> [b]
Just curious, kit or from plans?
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www.mykitlog.com/ashontz
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| Subject: | Re: Thank You Mark Townsend! |
I also give Mark a lot of credit. He is a "can-do" kind of guy who embodies the
"don't sweat the small stuff" spirit. I took a weekend rudder class taught
by him and David Barth and came home ready to get started. He has since responded
patiently to all my questions and concerns and given me the, "It's time you
just move on" speech when I needed it. It is nice having such people who are
willing to share their skills and wisdom. It is one reason why homebuilding
can be such a rewarding process.
Tim
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CFII
Champ L16A flying
Zodiac XL - Jabiru 3300A
Working on wings
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| Subject: | Re: Aluminum sheet. |
Thanks. I hadn't even looked at the obvious places.
I just got off the phone with Caleb @ Zenith. He said .016 is fine for the
belly skins and their demonstrator hasn't dented on the bottom at all. It
just seems like that is a little to thin. Maybe I'm wrong. I was one other
time.
Dave
----- Original Message -----
From: "LarryMcFarland" <larry@macsmachine.com>
Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2007 6:36 AM
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Aluminum sheet.
>
> Dave,
> Aircraft Spruce is the most direct with concern for good packaging
> practices at $46.57 for a 4'x8' 6061-T6.
> Phone 877-477-7823 Peachtree, GA. There is a California outlet.
>
> Larry McFarland 601HDS at www.macsmachine.com
> do not archive
>
> Dave Ruddiman wrote:
>> I know this has been gone over before, but where is a good place to buy
>> .025 sheeting for a belly skin. Dave in Salem
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>> *
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| Subject: | Re: Aluminum sheet. |
Dave Ruddiman wrote:
> <pacificpainting@comcast.net>
>
> Thanks. I hadn't even looked at the obvious places.
> I just got off the phone with Caleb @ Zenith. He said .016 is fine for
> the belly skins and their demonstrator hasn't dented on the bottom at
> all. It just seems like that is a little to thin. Maybe I'm wrong. I
> was one other time.
>
> Dave
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "LarryMcFarland"
> <larry@macsmachine.com>
> To: <zenith-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2007 6:36 AM
> Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Aluminum sheet.
>
>
>> <larry@macsmachine.com>
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Dave,
I believe .016 is too thin and you'd be happier with using .020 as a
minimum where tail feathers were not involved.
Larry McFarland
do not archive
>> Dave,
>> Aircraft Spruce is the most direct with concern for good packaging
>> practices at $46.57 for a 4'x8' 6061-T6.
>> Phone 877-477-7823 Peachtree, GA. There is a California outlet.
>>
>> Larry McFarland 601HDS at www.macsmachine.com
>> do not archive
>>
>> Dave Ruddiman wrote:
>>> I know this has been gone over before, but where is a good place to
>>> buy .025 sheeting for a belly skin. Dave in Salem
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| Subject: | Re: Diesel Zenith |
2thesky wrote:
>
> Float Flyr wrote:
> > One down side could be that diesels are notoriously hard to start in cold
weather. They do need good size starters and probably heavy batteries.
>
>
> Only diesel engines that aren't properly cared for, have fuel pressure problems,
or are worn out are hard to start. I currently own five diesel engines and
have owned many more in the past. Every time I have had a hard to start engine,
I have been able to find and fix a problem that corrected the problem of
being hard to start. You can just crank on it loger, use bigger and more batteries
to suck fuel up to the injectors, and that will work and is, in fact, what
most folks do, but I have always been able to fix mine so that they start easily
through keeping the fuel system in top shape. I own one diesel in a Ford
F-250 pickup. I also own two tractor trailers with big 550 hp engines and smaller
diesel powered aux. power units on them, too. None of these are hard to
start in the cold because they are all equipped with block heaters that keep
the coolant warm. When it gets REALLY cold, I also use a heated dipstick that
tends to keep the engine oil close to 85 degrees. All of my trucks start just
fine in really cold weather. It has been hovering around 0 degrees here for
a couple of weeks and all of my trucks started everyday with no problems, usually
after just a couple of turns of the engine. One of my trucks sat outside
in North Dakota for three days last week. It started on the third turn. In
fact, I drive my diesel pickup more in the cold weather because the oil and coolant
is warm all the time, and my car has to start cold. The diesel engines
run smooth from the start and my car and farm tractor complain to me for the
first few seconds. It is my opinion that because of the block and oil heating
devices, my diesels suffer less wear than my gas engines from cold weather starts.
It is simply a matter of plugging it in to a 110 volt electrical outlet
at night, or just a couple of hours or so before starting (depending on the temp).
I prefer to leave them plugged in all the time when not in use. For an
airplane, I think I would leave the block heater off and just use the heated
dipstick !
so not t
o add any extra flying weight. To me, that sounds easier than the propane powered
pre-heater that I use on the PA-28 I rent now. Just show up at the hangar,
unplug and remove the heated dipstick, and replace the normal dipstick. You
are ready to rock and roll.
>
> As for the starters and batteries, both of my semi's are equipped with auxiliary
power units so that we don't need to idle the big engine for overnight stays
and still run the heat/AC, provide electricity in the sleeper for lights, refrigerator,
microwave, engine block heaters, battery charging for the big engine,
etc. These units use lighter twin cylinder diesel engines, made by Kubota,
and require only a single battery that is lighter than the one in my little
V-6 powered car. It will spin and start the little Kubotas very easily. The
starters are pretty much the same as a lawn mower. I doubt that for these lighter
aircraft diesels, any huge heavy battery or starter would be needed. We
do use huge starters on truck diesels, but I think that it is because manufacturers
realize that most will allow small air leaks in the fuel system exist.
I think these diesels could be great for airplanes if they can just keep the
installed weight down. I hope by the time I am finally ready to start building,
I will have a choice of engines that can run on diesel or Jet-A. I like it
more than gas because of the volatility of gasoline. Also, my auto and truck
diesels last a whole heck of a lot longer than my gas engine cars. One of
my truck engines has 1.2 million miles on it. I usually run trucks to 1.5 million
before trading them in or rebuilding them with meticulous maintenance, of
course. I am sure most aircraft owners, particularly folks who built them are
very good about maintenance. I hope that longevity will be the same in aircraft
diesels. Just my opinions.
Just the fact that diesel fuel is less volatile in a crash is a nice plus.
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| Subject: | 601 XL w/ Corvair PowerPlant |
This is my experience also. I'm not a skinny guy and Gus and I flew all ov
er Northern New Jersey for a couple of days. We flew with full tanks many
times and went through all phases of flight. I'm not saying we we were ove
r gross :-) I set my gross weight to be in line with the Sport Pilot regul
ations. My plane will climb nicely slightly over gross.
My performance numbers are in the archives including weights etc.Phil Maxso
n
601XL/Corvair
Northwest New Jersey
> From: craig@craigandjean.com> Subject: RE: Zenith-List: 601 XL w/ Corvair
gandjean.com>> > Here is a quote from William Wynne's web site about their
Corvair-equipped> 601xl (look about 3/4s of the way down the page):> > "Lik
e Gus, Derek is a very burly guy. Together, they weigh more than 500> pound
s. But the 601's efficient airframe, and its 44" wide cabin flew both> of t
hem in comfort with a good rate of climb. In extreme cases like this, we> d
o not operate the airplane with full fuel. But two FAA sized people could>
fill up the 24 gallon tanks on the XL, still carry 86 pounds of baggage, an
d> be within gross weight. With the standard Corvair engine, this combinati
on> performs very well."> > http://www.flycorvair.com/601.html> > -- Craig
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| Subject: | Re: 601 XL w/ Corvair PowerPlant |
pmaxpmax(at)HOTMAIL.COM wrote:
> I'm not a skinny guy
No kidding :P
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W.R. "Gig" Giacona
601XL Under Construction
See my progress at www.peoamerica.net/N601WR
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| Subject: | Re: Diesel Zenith |
mijniljj(at)yahoo.com wrote:
> It is interesting that almost all of the
> truck engines are Detroit Diesels and eve the
> catapiler uses Detropt Diesel parts. --
Well, lots of trucks are Detroit powered. I wouldn't say "almost all of," though.
Lots of big fleets use the Series 60 12.7 liter engine in Freightliner Columbia's
and Century class tractors. Lots of Internationals have 14 liter Cummins
ISX's or C-15 CATS. Almost all of the Peterbilt 379 and Kenworth W900 tractors
(the ones with the long square hoods) are CAT powered. I have owned
all of them and my favorite is the CAT, in particular the 3406 or the later C-15
550 hp engine. The Detroit is a good engine, too, and I have logged many miles
sitting behind them. I am curious about which Detroit parts that CAT is
using. I have owned lots more CATS than any other kind of engine, and the only
shared part I can find is the Bendix air compressor, which is common to lots
of tractors. Maybe I could save some green by putting grey parts on my yellow
engines? [Wink]
Please Do not archive!
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| Subject: | Re: 3300 Exhaust |
Thanks everyone -- you have been very helpful!
Mack
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| Subject: | Re: Parking brake |
Howdy Everyone,
A note of thanks to all for the input -- all your ideas are good, just now to decide
which I like the best
Thanks again,
Mack
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| Subject: | Re: 1st Hundred Hours of Building (XL) |
Same here. Building from a complete kit, I had the entire tail finished,
had built the flaps and ailerons and was about halfway through building
the first wing at 100 hours. I have no doubt that it can be done much
faster than I have done so far. I am equally sure that I can't go any
faster without taicking off the family, retiring, and/or screwing up
even mor ethan I curently do.
I am presently at 436.5 hours and I am working on the bows for the
middle top skin of the fuselage.
Ed Moody II
601XL/Jabiru/middle top skin
----- Original Message -----
From: Tim Juhl
To: zenith-list@matronics.com
Sent: Sunday, February 18, 2007 11:05 AM
Subject: Zenith-List: Re: 1st Hundred Hours of Building (XL)
I think you are doing OK. Anyone who can build an XL in 400 hours as
the advertising claims is either very skillful or has built one before.
I'm probably in the slow category but then I take my time and so far
have avoided any big mistakes. I've completed the rudder, tailfeathers,
flaps and ailerons, installed fuel senders in the tanks and am finishing
out the right wing. I installed the baggage locker (which took awhile)
and am doing the wingtip right now. Fuel tanks are next and I'll be
done. Along the way I trimmed the nose ribs and fabricated the pieces
needed for both wings at the same time so left wing should move along a
little faster. Time required? I just hit 400 hours.
Enjoy the process!
Tim
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CFII
Champ L16A flying
Zodiac XL - Jabiru 3300A
Working on wings
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| Subject: | Re: 1st Hundred Hours of Building (XL) |
Apparently the kit is much faster. Honestly, I'd say I spend about 3 to 4 times
as much time making the parts as I do assembling them. Seems to be reflected
in my log too.
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www.mykitlog.com/ashontz
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| Subject: | Re: RE: Strobes, part II |
Thanks, George, I'll look into it.
Bill Naumuk
HDS Fuselage
Townville, Pa
----- Original Message -----
From: George Race
To: zenith-list@matronics.com
Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2007 6:08 AM
Subject: Zenith-List: RE: Strobes, part II
Hi Bill:
Here are a some strobes for you to consider. www.aristuff.com has
them.
Bright Star SR901C Clear Lens $49.00
Kuntzleman Strobe Double Wink KU001 $138.00
Illusion Strobe ILA25 $119.00
Several different styles to choose from.
George
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| Subject: | Re: Strobes, part II |
Jay-
Based on everyone's input, I'm going to decide on a strobe and complete
the bracing, mounting holes, rivnuts/plates ASAP. Then the only contorting I
have to do is for the final installation. Don't think it's a good thing
having the glass and guts hanging out in the open while I'm jockeying
everything around the shop.
do not
archive
Bill Naumuk
HDS Fuselage
Townville, Pa
----- Original Message -----
From: <Jaybannist@cs.com>
Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2007 7:45 PM
Subject: RE: Zenith-List: Strobes, part II
>
The rear & middle top skins can't be installed until you have installed
the baggage floor.
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Parking brake |
While researching my next project, a long travel sand
car, I found this:
http://www.team-moto.com/index.cfm?action=ViewDetails&ItemID=62&Category=5
-this would work well for those of us that used
compression fittings and "Plastic" brake lines.
VR/
Brandon
601 HDS / TD / Corvair
70 hours
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| Subject: | nose gear dimensions |
Can anyone out there give me actual dimensions for the axle hole to the
bottom of the 'U" part #8L2-4. Also the inside width. I want to see if
an 8.50 x 6 tire will fit on the nose.
Dave in Salem
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| Subject: | Re: nose gear dimensions |
I assume anyone reading this would realize I am talking about an 801. I
forgot to put that in.
----- Original Message -----
From: Dave Ruddiman
To: zenith-list@matronics.com
Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2007 7:59 PM
Subject: Zenith-List: nose gear dimensions
Can anyone out there give me actual dimensions for the axle hole to
the bottom of the 'U" part #8L2-4. Also the inside width. I want to see
if an 8.50 x 6 tire will fit on the nose.
Dave in Salem
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