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1. 04:43 AM - Re: Cockpit side panels? (Juan Vega)
2. 06:11 AM - Re: Fuel for Jabiru 3300 (Pete Krotje)
3. 06:32 AM - 601XL wing dihedral and notch cut in center spar (ashontz)
4. 06:33 AM - Re: Cockpit side panels? (LarryMcFarland)
5. 06:41 AM - Re: Cockpit side panels? (Klaus Truemper)
6. 09:12 AM - Re: 701 wing extentions (LRM)
7. 09:12 AM - Re: Re: What does it mean? (LRM)
8. 09:49 AM - 601 tailwheel in crosswinds (Brandon Tucker)
9. 09:50 AM - Re: Re: What does it mean? (Dave Ruddiman)
10. 10:34 AM - Re: Re: What does it mean? (Crvsecretary@aol.com)
11. 10:36 AM - Re: 601XL wing dihedral and notch cut in center spar (ashontz)
12. 11:11 AM - Re: Re: What does it mean? (JOHN STARN)
13. 11:14 AM - Re: Re: What does it mean? (Gary Boothe)
14. 11:52 AM - 7V6-2SP Alignement (mcolbeck)
15. 01:09 PM - Re: Re: What does it mean? (JOHN STARN)
16. 03:14 PM - Re: Re: What does it mean? (Bill Naumuk)
17. 03:35 PM - Re: Re: What does it mean? (Gary Boothe)
18. 03:42 PM - landing light (Skip Perry)
19. 03:53 PM - Re: landing light (Jaybannist@cs.com)
20. 04:01 PM - dual/thanks (mikeandlaurie3@netzero.net)
21. 04:02 PM - Re: landing light (Jaybannist@cs.com)
22. 04:25 PM - Re: landing light (JOHN STARN)
23. 04:40 PM - Re: landing light (Michael Valentine)
24. 06:29 PM - Re: landing light (Edward Moody II)
25. 06:31 PM - Re: landing light (Edward Moody II)
26. 08:12 PM - Prop Pitch (LRM)
27. 09:54 PM - Re: landing light (Brad DeMeo)
28. 10:24 PM - Re: 7V6-2SP Alignement (txpilot)
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| Subject: | Re: Cockpit side panels? |
The lighter the plane, the more baggage(beer gut) you can put in the plane. I
suggest go light as much as able. I used a light foam insulator with leatherette
spray glued on. having it done by an able taylor, looks great and light wieght.
Juan
-----Original Message-----
>From: "Dr. Andrew Elliott" <a.s.elliott@cox.net>
>Sent: Mar 3, 2007 10:28 PM
>To: Zenith-List Digest Server <zenith-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: Zenith-List: Cockpit side panels?
>
>Gang:
>
>Would like to hear some ideas on good/interesting materials to use for the side
panels in the cockpit. I am thinking possibly of not painting nor covering
them. Some things I thought of were:
>
> 1/8" tempered hardboard (smooth side to inside)
> .060 Plexiglas (could be left clear or painted)
> 1/16" or 2 mm aircraft plywood
>
>Possible coverings might be prop paint, floor paint, truck bedliner, counter laminate,
etc. (and, of course, material to match the seats) Would like to have
a light weight, but tough installation.
>
>Any comments and ideas?
>
>Andy Elliott, Mesa, AZ
>N601GE (reserved)
>601XL/TD/QB, Corvair, building...
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| Subject: | Fuel for Jabiru 3300 |
Tracy,
We like to use what your manual says is acceptable fuel. Page 6 of the
installation manual says:
Fuel : AVGAS 100LL and AVGAS 100/130
Leaded and Unleaded Motor Gasoline above
95 (AKI 90) Octane RON may be used if AVGAS is
not available.
In the engine Instruction & Maintenance manual it says (section 3.3):
3.3 Fuel and Lubricant
Fuel: AVGAS 100 LL & AVGAS 100/130
Leaded and Unleaded Automotive Gasoline above 95 Octane RON (AKI 90)
may be used if AVGAS is not available
Follow the manual suggestions for the best performance. If you use auto gas
make sure it is good quality from a station with a high turnover of premium
gas to avoid stale product. Auto gas does degrade over time and may be more
prone to vapor lock. If you manage these potential problems then auto fuel
(91 octane or better) should work well.
Pete
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[mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of robert stone
Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2007 11:29 AM
Subject: Zenith-List: Fuel for Jabiru 3300
Members,
This question is for those of you who have a Jabiru 3300 engine
installed in your aircraft. I would like to know if this engine will run on
automobile gas and if so what octane does it do best on. Since most of us
do not fly near as often as we drive is there a need to use an additive such
as Sta-Bil when leaving fuel in the aircraft for periods of 3 to 5 weeks.
Tracy Stone
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| Subject: | 601XL wing dihedral and notch cut in center spar |
I'm setting my wing dihedral right now. Did anyone run into a problem where the
center bolt of the wing spar doesn't actually fall on the center line of the
center spar per the measurements? I'm thinking the notch in the center spar should
actually be cut back far enough to expose the channel the wing spar floats
in rather than only be cut back to the first center spar cap. First off, that
tab that's left after the cut is doing nothing, secondly, without that flap
it's possible to slide the wing spar up a few mm to intersect the centerline exactly,
and third, in other areas of the plans it actually shows that tab cut
all they way back, exposing the channel and allowing more up and down for the
wing spar in the center channel.
Thanks
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www.mykitlog.com/ashontz
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| Subject: | Re: Cockpit side panels? |
Hi Andy,
The upholstery shops carry a hard posterboard type material that is more
than adequate
for side panels. It's used to back furniture, and is probably not more
than .040 thick.
It's very light and strong which makes it ideal. I don't think it would
be much affected
by atmospheric moisture either. My seats have the same thing on the
bottom surface and
I intend to use it for side panels after adding sound insulation.
Larry McFarland - 601HDS at www.macsmachine.com
Dr. Andrew Elliott wrote:
> Gang:
>
> Would like to hear some ideas on good/interesting materials to use for
> the side panels in the cockpit. I am thinking possibly of not
> painting nor covering them. Some things I thought of were:
>
> 1/8" tempered hardboard (smooth side to inside)
> .060 Plexiglas (could be left clear or painted)
> 1/16" or 2 mm aircraft plywood
>
> Possible coverings might be prop paint, floor paint, truck bedliner,
> counter laminate, etc. (and, of course, material to match the seats)
> Would like to have a light weight, but tough installation.
>
> Any comments and ideas?
>
> Andy Elliott, Mesa, AZ
> N601GE (reserved)
> 601XL/TD/QB, Corvair, building...
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| Subject: | Re: Cockpit side panels? |
Hi Andrew,
A very light weight yet rugged material is the stuff used in some car
trunks.
We used material normally found in Ford trunks for the cockpit side
panels and
baggage compartment. You cut it with scissors and glue it in
place with a spray available at any auto parts store.
After 10 years, it still looks like new in my plane.
Total weight is next to zero.
Remark: On the cockpit sides near the firewall and on the firewall
itself you want to use sound deadening material available from
Aircraft Spruce. The expert who built the plane with me
(Mel Asberry) recommended the material.
This stuff is not lightweight, but it helps a great
deal to quiet the cockpit. It is a heavy foam material with aluminum
foil on the outside. I have flown another Zenith 601 without
that material, and there was a big difference in noise from my
plane.
Best wishes,
Klaus Truemper
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Professor Emeritus of Computer Science
University of Texas at Dallas
Erik Jonsson School of Engineering and
Computer Science EC31
P.O. Box 830688
Richardson, TX 75083-0688
(972) 883-2712
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| Subject: | Re: 701 wing extentions |
Believe it of not, I have two friends who are scratch building 701s in
unison. What they are doing is sorta neat. For instance they go to one
shop and build a wing together, then go to the other's shop and build his
wing, tit for tat. I don't know who is first, but I would think someone is
going to get a better plane. Anyway to my point, they were over looking at
my plane last summer, with the Pega-Stol wings which is two feet longer than
Zac wings, they went home and added a foot to each of their wings. It will
be a long time before they fly either of them, but when they do I will
report the results. Unlike some of us they have to work for a living so
they don't get to work on their planes much. Just thought some of you might
find that interesting.
Larry, N1345L, www.skyhawg.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Brian Bowen" <brianbowen_@HOTMAIL.COM>
Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2007 12:51 PM
Subject: Zenith-List: 701 wing extentions
>
> Hello,
> There was a recent entry with regards to wing extentions. I can not seem
> to located it in the Archive.
> Operate mostly in the mountains of BC on floats, thought the increased
> wing span would be a benefit.
>
> Ch701 Scatch Builder
> Brian
>
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| Subject: | Re: What does it mean? |
Just for grins and to add something to this off subject, my son who was in
the Navy on a carrier corrected me when I called his Carrier a ship, "Dad,
they are called boats not ships".
absolutely do not achieve.
Larry, N1345L, www.skyhawg.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gary Boothe" <gboothe5@comcast.net>
Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2007 2:19 PM
Subject: RE: Zenith-List: Re: What does it mean?
>
> How come people don't talk like that anymore?
>
> Gary Boothe
> Cool, CA
> 601 HDSTD, WW Conversion 90% done,
> Tail done, wings done, working on c-section
> Do not archive
>
>
> ...That attribute of government has been known for centuries, as evidenced
> by the famous quotes:
>
> "Eternal vigilance is the price of liberty."
>
> Attributed to either Thomas Jefferson, Patrick Henry, or Wendell
> Phillips. ( http://www.bartleby.com/73/1073.html )
>
> Also:
>
> "It is the common fate of the indolent to see their rights become a prey
> to the active. The condition upon which God hath given liberty to man is
> eternal vigilance; which condition if he break, servitude is at once the
> consequence of his crime and the punishment of his guilt."
>
> John Philpot Curran (1750-1817) ( http://www.bartleby.com/73/1054.html )
>
>
> --
>
>
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| Subject: | 601 tailwheel in crosswinds |
Gents,
This topic has come up a few times over the last
several years. Yesterday, I flew into French Valley
airport F70, Temecula California for breakfast. The
winds were direct crosswind 16 gusting to 22. I got
a nasty gust on the first attempt and went around, but
was able to set it down on the second attempt. I had
my 4 year old breakfast buddie in the right seat, so I
was a bit cautious. I think the plane can handle a
little more crosswind if it is steady, but the gusts
were pretty varsity...
VR/
Brandon Tucker
601 HDS / TD / Corvair
75 hours
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Get your game face on with the latest PS3 news and previews at Yahoo! Games.
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| Subject: | Re: What does it mean? |
IS THAT BECAUSE IT DOESN'T HAVE SAILS?
DO NOT ARCHIVE, PLEASE.
----- Original Message -----
From: "LRM" <lrm@skyhawg.com>
Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2007 9:04 AM
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Re: What does it mean?
>
> Just for grins and to add something to this off subject, my son who was in
> the Navy on a carrier corrected me when I called his Carrier a ship, "Dad,
> they are called boats not ships".
>
> absolutely do not achieve.
>
> Larry, N1345L, www.skyhawg.com
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Gary Boothe" <gboothe5@comcast.net>
> To: <zenith-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2007 2:19 PM
> Subject: RE: Zenith-List: Re: What does it mean?
>
>
>>
>> How come people don't talk like that anymore?
>>
>> Gary Boothe
>> Cool, CA
>> 601 HDSTD, WW Conversion 90% done,
>> Tail done, wings done, working on c-section
>> Do not archive
>>
>>
>> ...That attribute of government has been known for centuries, as
>> evidenced
>> by the famous quotes:
>>
>> "Eternal vigilance is the price of liberty."
>>
>> Attributed to either Thomas Jefferson, Patrick Henry, or Wendell
>> Phillips. ( http://www.bartleby.com/73/1073.html )
>>
>> Also:
>>
>> "It is the common fate of the indolent to see their rights become a prey
>> to the active. The condition upon which God hath given liberty to man is
>> eternal vigilance; which condition if he break, servitude is at once the
>> consequence of his crime and the punishment of his guilt."
>>
>> John Philpot Curran (1750-1817) ( http://www.bartleby.com/73/1054.html )
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: What does it mean? |
According to my father's Bluejackets Manual (1945 edition) the determination
between a 'ship' and a 'boat' is not black and white, and it is best summed
up as:
" The destroyer is certainly a ship, while the Captain's dinghy is certainly
a boat".
FWIW
Tracy Smith
definitely Do Not Archive !!!!!
In a message dated 3/4/2007 12:14:01 PM Eastern Standard Time,
lrm@skyhawg.com writes:
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "LRM" <lrm@skyhawg.com>
Just for grins and to add something to this off subject, my son who was in
the Navy on a carrier corrected me when I called his Carrier a ship, "Dad,
they are called boats not ships".
absolutely do not achieve.
Larry, N1345L, www.skyhawg.com
<BR><BR><BR>**************************************<BR> AOL now offers free
email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at
http://www.aol.com.
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| Subject: | Re: 601XL wing dihedral and notch cut in center spar |
Figured it out. My plans only show the flange on the center spar notched out, but
not notched all the way back to the front edge, which would leave the wing
spar confined. I trimed back the flange all the way to the front so that the wing
spar can float up more for the setup. I saw nothing structural with the extra
flap there just covering up spar channel. I looked at Ron Lendon's site, he
actually has the flange there where as Dave Clay has it cut away. Interestingly
enough, I noticed Ron ran into the same problem I did, which was originally
set up, the center lines of the center spar caps and the wing spar caps didn't
intersect as stated on the plans. Cutting away the unused flange along with
the original 45mm cut per the plans solved the problem.
--------
CH601XL - Corvair
www.mykitlog.com/ashontz
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http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=98675#98675
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| Subject: | Re: What does it mean? |
If it doesn't have sails, why do they call the crew "Sailors". 8*) KABONG
Do Not Archive this either
> <pacificpainting@comcast.net>
>
> IS THAT BECAUSE IT DOESN'T HAVE SAILS?
>
>
> DO NOT ARCHIVE, PLEASE.
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| Subject: | Re: What does it mean? |
As I try to get re-invigorated after an 8 week hiatus, due to home
remodeling, I find this entire string quite stimulating, conjuring all kinds
of pertinent questions, such as:
Was the Love Boat really a Love Ship?
Why is a destroyer a ship, while an aircraft carrier is a boat?
If a two-masted, square-rigged sailing vessel is a Brig, and a 3 masted,
square-rigged sailing vessel is a ship, what is a 4 masted, fore & aft
rigged sailing vessel? Is it still a ship or just a schooner?
.and if a 3 masted, square-rigged man-o-war was a "Ship of the Line," what
would a 2 masted, square-rigged man-o-war be called? Is it also a "Ship of
the Line" or a "Brig of the Line" or a "Boat of the Line"?
Some one, PLEASE, answer these questions!! Enquiring minds want to know..
Gary Boothe
Cool, CA
601 HDSTD, WW Conversion 90% done,
Tail done, wings done, working on c-section
Do not archive
_____
From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
Crvsecretary@aol.com
Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2007 10:33 AM
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Re: What does it mean?
According to my father's Bluejackets Manual (1945 edition) the determination
between a 'ship' and a 'boat' is not black and white, and it is best summed
up as:
" The destroyer is certainly a ship, while the Captain's dinghy is certainly
a boat".
FWIW
Tracy Smith
definitely Do Not Archive !!!!!
In a message dated 3/4/2007 12:14:01 PM Eastern Standard Time,
lrm@skyhawg.com writes:
Just for grins and to add something to this off subject, my son who was in
the Navy on a carrier corrected me when I called his Carrier a ship, "Dad,
they are called boats not ships".
absolutely do not achieve.
Larry, N1345L, www.skyhawg.com
_____
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| Subject: | 7V6-2SP Alignement |
I am currently assembling the Left and Right wing. I have made the template for
positioning the 7V6-2SP that I have bent up. I built the Template as per the
drawings but when I set the 7V6-2SP in position it does not sit flush with the
top of the rear rib. In order for 7V62SP to sit flush top and bottom on the rib
it must move toward the wing spar about a 6mm. I have double checked all measurements
as well as physically measuring it of the spar. It is bang on.
Is it possible to move 7V6-2SP closer to the wing spar?
--------
CH701 Builder and new flyer
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| Subject: | Re: What does it mean? |
----- Original Message -----
?
As I try to get re-invigorated after an 8 week hiatus, due to home
remodeling, I find this entire string quite stimulating, conjuring all
kinds of pertinent questions, such as:
Was the Love Boat really a Love Ship? Since it had life "boats"
aboard, it must have been a ship.
Why is a destroyer a ship, while an aircraft carrier is a boat?
Because its primary offensive weapons are not permitlly attached.
If a two-masted, square-rigged sailing vessel is a Brig, and a 3
masted, square-rigged sailing vessel is a ship, what is a 4 masted, fore
& aft rigged sailing vessel? One big vessel that's hard to turn about.
Is it still a ship or just a schooner? Is that like in "the schooner the
better" ?.
.and if a 3 masted, square-rigged man-o-war was a "Ship of the Line,"
what would a 2 masted, square-rigged man-o-war be called? A smaller
target. Is it also a "Ship of the Line" or a "Brig of the Line" or a
"Boat of the Line"? Ships of the Line comes from a battle formation
rather than vessel size, but most battleships of the past would be
"Ships of the Line" because of the in trail formation used in sea
battles.
(EGADS, an attempt to answer a a question with a real discription of
fact. )
KABONG Do Not Archive 8*)
Some one, PLEASE, answer these questions!! Enquiring minds want to
know..
Gary Boothe
Cool, CA
601 HDSTD, WW Conversion 90% done,
Tail done, wings done, working on c-section
Do not archive
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From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
Crvsecretary@aol.com
Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2007 10:33 AM
To: zenith-list@matronics.com
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Re: What does it mean?
According to my father's Bluejackets Manual (1945 edition) the
determination between a 'ship' and a 'boat' is not black and white, and
it is best summed up as:
" The destroyer is certainly a ship, while the Captain's dinghy is
certainly a boat".
FWIW
Tracy Smith
definitely Do Not Archive !!!!!
In a message dated 3/4/2007 12:14:01 PM Eastern Standard Time,
lrm@skyhawg.com writes:
Just for grins and to add something to this off subject, my son who
was in
the Navy on a carrier corrected me when I called his Carrier a ship,
"Dad,
they are called boats not ships".
absolutely do not achieve.
Larry, N1345L, www.skyhawg.com
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| Subject: | Re: What does it mean? |
Very impressive response. I still think boats are holes in the water
you throw money into.
Of course, our money just flies out of our wallets!
do not archive
Bill Naumuk
HDS Fuse/Corvair
Townville, Pa
----- Original Message -----
From: JOHN STARN
To: zenith-list@matronics.com
Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2007 4:07 PM
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Re: What does it mean?
----- Original Message -----
?
As I try to get re-invigorated after an 8 week hiatus, due to home
remodeling, I find this entire string quite stimulating, conjuring all
kinds of pertinent questions, such as:
Was the Love Boat really a Love Ship? Since it had life "boats"
aboard, it must have been a ship.
Why is a destroyer a ship, while an aircraft carrier is a boat?
Because its primary offensive weapons are not permitlly attached.
If a two-masted, square-rigged sailing vessel is a Brig, and a 3
masted, square-rigged sailing vessel is a ship, what is a 4 masted, fore
& aft rigged sailing vessel? One big vessel that's hard to turn about.
Is it still a ship or just a schooner? Is that like in "the schooner the
better" ?.
.and if a 3 masted, square-rigged man-o-war was a "Ship of the
Line," what would a 2 masted, square-rigged man-o-war be called? A
smaller target. Is it also a "Ship of the Line" or a "Brig of the Line"
or a "Boat of the Line"? Ships of the Line comes from a battle formation
rather than vessel size, but most battleships of the past would be
"Ships of the Line" because of the in trail formation used in sea
battles.
(EGADS, an attempt to answer a a question with a real discription of
fact. )
KABONG Do Not Archive 8*)
Some one, PLEASE, answer these questions!! Enquiring minds want to
know..
Gary Boothe
Cool, CA
601 HDSTD, WW Conversion 90% done,
Tail done, wings done, working on c-section
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According to my father's Bluejackets Manual (1945 edition) the
determination between a 'ship' and a 'boat' is not black and white, and
it is best summed up as:
" The destroyer is certainly a ship, while the Captain's dinghy is
certainly a boat".
FWIW
Tracy Smith
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In a message dated 3/4/2007 12:14:01 PM Eastern Standard Time,
lrm@skyhawg.com writes:
Just for grins and to add something to this off subject, my son
who was in
the Navy on a carrier corrected me when I called his Carrier a
ship, "Dad,
they are called boats not ships".
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AH-HA! Thank you, John!!
Now I can get back to my center section..
Gary
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Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2007 1:08 PM
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Re: What does it mean?
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?
As I try to get re-invigorated after an 8 week hiatus, due to home
remodeling, I find this entire string quite stimulating, conjuring all kinds
of pertinent questions, such as:
Was the Love Boat really a Love Ship? Since it had life "boats" aboard, it
must have been a ship.
Why is a destroyer a ship, while an aircraft carrier is a boat? Because its
primary offensive weapons are not permitlly attached.
If a two-masted, square-rigged sailing vessel is a Brig, and a 3 masted,
square-rigged sailing vessel is a ship, what is a 4 masted, fore & aft
rigged sailing vessel? One big vessel that's hard to turn about. Is it still
a ship or just a schooner? Is that like in "the schooner the better" ?.
.and if a 3 masted, square-rigged man-o-war was a "Ship of the Line," what
would a 2 masted, square-rigged man-o-war be called? A smaller target. Is
it also a "Ship of the Line" or a "Brig of the Line" or a "Boat of the
Line"? Ships of the Line comes from a battle formation rather than vessel
size, but most battleships of the past would be "Ships of the Line" because
of the in trail formation used in sea battles.
(EGADS, an attempt to answer a a question with a real discription of fact. )
KABONG Do Not Archive 8*)
Some one, PLEASE, answer these questions!! Enquiring minds want to know..
Gary Boothe
Cool, CA
601 HDSTD, WW Conversion 90% done,
Tail done, wings done, working on c-section
Do not archive
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Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2007 10:33 AM
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Re: What does it mean?
According to my father's Bluejackets Manual (1945 edition) the determination
between a 'ship' and a 'boat' is not black and white, and it is best summed
up as:
" The destroyer is certainly a ship, while the Captain's dinghy is certainly
a boat".
FWIW
Tracy Smith
definitely Do Not Archive !!!!!
In a message dated 3/4/2007 12:14:01 PM Eastern Standard Time,
lrm@skyhawg.com writes:
Just for grins and to add something to this off subject, my son who was in
the Navy on a carrier corrected me when I called his Carrier a ship, "Dad,
they are called boats not ships".
absolutely do not achieve.
Larry, N1345L, www.skyhawg.com
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I have made the cut out in the leading edge and also have the landing light
assembly clecoed in place but I still can't get the lens into the cut out. I
am afraid to force it for fear it will crack. I have checked and re-checked
the cut out and it seems to be in the correct place and the measurements all
seem correct. Does anyone have any tips for getting the lens to fit in the
cut out hole? The assembly photos mention cutting a pie shaped piece but no
measurements are given.
Skip Perry
601 quick build
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Skip,
I just trimmed my lens "by guess & by gosh." I probably trimmed it (progressively)
three or four times before I could get it to go into place. A very poor
design, if you ask me. The same goes for the sheet metal screws that hold it
in place.
Jay in Dallas
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"Skip Perry" <sperry50@comcast.net> wrote:
>I have made the cut out in the leading edge and also have the landing light
>assembly clecoed in place but I still can't get the lens into the cut out. I
>am afraid to force it for fear it will crack. I have checked and re-checked
>the cut out and it seems to be in the correct place and the measurements all
>seem correct. Does anyone have any tips for getting the lens to fit in the
>cut out hole? The assembly photos mention cutting a pie shaped piece but no
>measurements are given.
>
>Skip Perry
>601 quick build
>
>
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Thanks for the replies on the dual throttle - really much simpler than m
y mind's creation. I appreciate the help
Mike
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Skip,
By the way, your message was in a VERY small and all on the same line.
Jay in Dallas
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"Skip Perry" <sperry50@comcast.net> wrote:
>I have made the cut out in the leading edge and also have the landing light
>assembly clecoed in place but I still can't get the lens into the cut out. I
>am afraid to force it for fear it will crack. I have checked and re-checked
>the cut out and it seems to be in the correct place and the measurements all
>seem correct. Does anyone have any tips for getting the lens to fit in the
>cut out hole? The assembly photos mention cutting a pie shaped piece but no
>measurements are given.
>
>Skip Perry
>601 quick build
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: landing light |
Your leading edge is different. But we put the lens inside before
mounting the assembly with screws. Took a piece of duct tape about 4"
long & 1" wide. Folded the center together for about an inch & attached
the two remaining "tabs" to the lens. A lot easier to handle. KABONG
----- Original Message -----
From: Skip Perry
To: zenith-list@matronics.com
Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2007 3:43 PM
Subject: Zenith-List: landing light
I have made the cut out in the leading edge and also have the landing
light assembly clecoed in place but I still can't get the lens into the
cut out. I am afraid to force it for fear it will crack. I have checked
and re-checked the cut out and it seems to be in the correct place and
the measurements all seem correct. Does anyone have any tips for getting
the lens to fit in the cut out hole? The assembly photos mention cutting
a pie shaped piece but no measurements are given. Skip Perry601 quick
build
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| Subject: | Re: landing light |
I also had to round the corners of the lens - that was enough for me to
slide it in.
Michael in NH
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On 3/4/07, Skip Perry <sperry50@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> I have made the cut out in the leading edge and also have the landing light
assembly clecoed in place but I still can't get the lens into the cut out. I am
afraid to force it for fear it will crack. I have checked and re-checked the
cut out and it seems to be in the correct place and the measurements all seem
correct. Does anyone have any tips for getting the lens to fit in the cut out
hole? The assembly photos mention cutting a pie shaped piece but no measurements
are given.
>
>
> Skip Perry
>
> 601 quick build
>
> * *
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: landing light |
I second that; in fact I decided to use flush set solid rivets holding
nutplates for #6-32 screws to secure the lense.
Dred
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From: Jaybannist@cs.com
To: zenith-list@matronics.com
Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2007 5:53 PM
Subject: RE: Zenith-List: landing light
Skip,
I just trimmed my lens "by guess & by gosh." I probably trimmed it
(progressively) three or four times before I could get it to go into
place. A very poor design, if you ask me. The same goes for the sheet
metal screws that hold it in place.
Jay in Dallas
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| Subject: | Re: landing light |
My first attempt was equally frustrating and nerve racking. Then I cut
the lense down to a size that was just enough larger than the hole to
allow a safe edge distance from the holes. After that the lense was a
lot easier to fit into the hole.
Dred
----- Original Message -----
From: Skip Perry
To: zenith-list@matronics.com
Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2007 5:43 PM
Subject: Zenith-List: landing light
I have made the cut out in the leading edge and also have the landing
light assembly clecoed in place but I still can't get the lens into the
cut out. I am afraid to force it for fear it will crack. I have checked
and re-checked the cut out and it seems to be in the correct place and
the measurements all seem correct. Does anyone have any tips for getting
the lens to fit in the cut out hole? The assembly photos mention cutting
a pie shaped piece but no measurements are given. Skip Perry601 quick
build
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Has anyone got a Prince P-tip 2 blade on a 701 with about 100 hp engine?
If so, what length and pitch do you recommend? Thanks
Larry, www.SkyHawg.com, N1345L
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| Subject: | Re: landing light |
Trim the lens until it is about 3/8 to 1/2 inch on each side. I used an
olfa knife and got it trimmed to size in about 8 minutes. Keep the lens
warm so it won't crack like mine did when I tried to fit it this winter.
A new lens is very expensive. Round off carefully the corners. Use the
tape method to pull the lens forward once you have it in. It takes a
lot of patience, but it will soon fit. Good luck.
Brad
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| Subject: | Re: 7V6-2SP Alignement |
mcolbeck,
I'm a fairly novice builder so take this advice for what it's worth. You may want
to check if your top and lower skins 7V7-2 and 7V7-3 are predrilled for the
rear channel. Some kits are and some are not, depending on how long ago they've
been purchased. If they are predrilled, check if moving the rear channels
6mm forward would still give you an adequate hole position.
Also, you may want to verify you could still rivet the lower trailing edges 7V7-4
and 7V7-5 to the rear channel if it's pushed 6mm forward (reference lower right
diagram on 7V7). If you can still attach these skin pieces, I believe it's
okay to move the rear channel forward to the desired location.
One word of caution: I would make sure the distance between 7V3-1SP and 7V7-1
(spar root fitting to heavy rear channel at root) is as accurate as possible.
If it's more than 3mm off, you may encounter problems when you jig the fuselage
and cabin frame.
Good Luck,
Dan
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