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1. 06:37 AM - comfortable seats (Big Gee)
2. 07:02 AM - Re: Firewall Primer Question (Carl Bertrand)
3. 08:05 AM - Re: comfortable seats (Bryan Martin)
4. 09:09 AM - Re: flight attitude of XL?? (Juan Vega)
5. 10:01 AM - Re: flight attitude of XL?? (David Downey)
6. 10:27 AM - Re: New "European XL" from Zenith? (David X)
7. 01:27 PM - Upper extruded Ls (Bill Naumuk)
8. 01:49 PM - Re: Upper extruded Ls (wade jones)
9. 02:12 PM - Re: Firewall Primer Question (Timothy Croy)
10. 03:41 PM - those comfortable seats (Jeff Small)
11. 03:57 PM - Re: flight attitude of XL?? (Juan Vega)
12. 04:01 PM - Re: canopy for 601XL? (Juan Vega)
13. 04:21 PM - Re: Upper extruded Ls (Ron Lendon)
14. 04:30 PM - Re: those comfortable seats (Pat Spanaus)
15. 04:52 PM - Re: Upper extruded Ls (R.P.)
16. 06:27 PM - Re: Upper extruded Ls (LarryMcFarland)
17. 06:42 PM - Re: Upper extruded Ls (Bill Naumuk)
18. 06:45 PM - Re: Upper extruded Ls (Bill Naumuk)
19. 06:50 PM - Re: Upper extruded Ls (Bill Naumuk)
20. 07:33 PM - Re: Upper extruded Ls (Terry Turnquist)
21. 07:51 PM - canopy lock (mikeandlaurie3@netzero.net)
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| Subject: | comfortable seats |
just changing the subject line from "Y" stick"=0A=0A=0A----- Original Messa
ge ----=0AFrom: David X <dxj@comcast.net>=0ATo: zenith-list@matronics.com
=0ASent: Saturday, March 10, 2007 11:50:05 PM=0ASubject: Zenith-List: Re: Y
id X" <dxj@comcast.net>=0A=0A=0Abryanmmartin wrote:=0A> I bought the foam f
rom Hi-Tech foams At Sun'N'Fun 2003 for $378. http://www.seatfoam.com/=0A>
I carved the foam to shape myself and glued it together. I had a =0A> loc
al upholsterer sew the covers for me for about $200.=0A=0A=0ACreapy. Kinda
like making love to yourself :) LOL=0A=0A--------=0AZodiac 601 XL - CZAW Bu
ilt - Rotax 912S=0ADO NOT ARCHIVE=0A=0A=0A=0A=0ARead this topic online here
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| Subject: | Re: Firewall Primer Question |
Dave
One option is to leave it bare. I just used Zinkcromate in the joints, looks
good after 12 years.
Carl
701 on floats.
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| Subject: | Re: comfortable seats |
>
> bryanmmartin wrote:
> > I bought the foam from Hi-Tech foams At Sun'N'Fun 2003 for $378.
> http://www.seatfoam.com/
> > I carved the foam to shape myself and glued it together. I had a
> > local upholsterer sew the covers for me for about $200.
>
>
> Creapy. Kinda like making love to yourself :) LOL
>
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| Subject: | Re: flight attitude of XL?? |
it all depends which speed setting you have established in the pitch setting.
At full throttle, level flight, nose is level, at low 2000 rpm pitched for 65knts,
nose is 5 to 10 high.
Juan
-----Original Message-----
>From: David Downey <planecrazydld@yahoo.com>
>Sent: Mar 8, 2007 8:36 PM
>To: zenith-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Zenith-List: flight attitude of XL??
>
>Would anyone care to comment on the normal flight pitch attitude of a box-stock
XL (Corvair powered)? My observations of in-flight and fly-by videos would suggest
that they tend to operate with the nose high and the tail low in normal
cruise. Does anyone know if this is actually the case or is it an illusion?
>
>
>
> Dave Downey
> Harleysville (SE) PA
> Zodiac 601XL/Corvair?
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: flight attitude of XL?? |
Thanks for the reply Juan. Is full throttle level flight in the range of LSA limits?
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Juan Vega <amyvega2005@earthlink.net> wrote:
it all depends which speed setting you have established in the pitch setting. At
full throttle, level flight, nose is level, at low 2000 rpm pitched for 65knts,
nose is 5 to 10 high.
Juan
-----Original Message-----
>From: David Downey
>Sent: Mar 8, 2007 8:36 PM
>To: zenith-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Zenith-List: flight attitude of XL??
>
>Would anyone care to comment on the normal flight pitch attitude of a box-stock
XL (Corvair powered)? My observations of in-flight and fly-by videos would suggest
that they tend to operate with the nose high and the tail low in normal
cruise. Does anyone know if this is actually the case or is it an illusion?
>
>
>
> Dave Downey
> Harleysville (SE) PA
> Zodiac 601XL/Corvair?
>
>
>
>---------------------------------
>8:00? 8:25? 8:40? Find a flick in no time
> with theYahoo! Search movie showtime shortcut.
Dave Downey
Harleysville (SE) PA
Zodiac 601XL/Corvair?
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| Subject: | Re: New "European XL" from Zenith? |
dfmoeller wrote:
> David,
>
> Do you have any pix of your new installation, particularly the cowling? I'd
love to compare the two closely.
>
> Doug
I don't have any side-on, so a little hard to see the difference, but the nose
is moved out about 9 inches. See attached.
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| Subject: | Upper extruded Ls |
All-
Well, here we are. 3 months late (Some might say 3 years late), but
the fuse is hooked up to the c-section. Just finished the garanger and
still have to be careful of positioning or I'll run out of room!
Anyone have an easy way to bend the upper longerons? I'm not crazy
about building the rig Larry Mac used, but will if I have to.
Bill Naumuk
HDS Fuse/Corvair
Townville, Pa
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| Subject: | Re: Upper extruded Ls |
Hi Bill ,there may be a better way ,however I used the method used by
Larry Mac .It takes next to nothing to build the jig if you already have
some big "C" clamps
Wade Jones South Texas
601XL plans building
Cont. 0200
----- Original Message -----
From: Bill Naumuk
To: zenith-list@matronics.com
Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2007 3:26 PM
Subject: Zenith-List: Upper extruded Ls
All-
Well, here we are. 3 months late (Some might say 3 years late),
but the fuse is hooked up to the c-section. Just finished the garanger
and still have to be careful of positioning or I'll run out of room!
Anyone have an easy way to bend the upper longerons? I'm not crazy
about building the rig Larry Mac used, but will if I have to.
Bill Naumuk
HDS Fuse/Corvair
Townville, Pa
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| Subject: | Re: Firewall Primer Question |
Speaking of Zinc Chromate. Is it good to paint / spray it on the cockpit
walls and inside the fuselage or is it ok to leave it bare? Any
recommendations between Zinc Chromate and Zinc Oxide?
Thanks,
Tim
On 3/10/07, Carl Bertrand <cgbrt@mondenet.com> wrote:
>
>
> Dave
> One option is to leave it bare. I just used Zinkcromate in the joints,
> looks
> good after 12 years.
> Carl
> 701 on floats.
>
>
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| Subject: | those comfortable seats |
Go to the Builders Resources in the ch601.org website and you'll find a
few photos.
http://www.ch601.org/resources/foam_seat/foam_seat_construction.htm<http:
//www.ch601.org/resources/foam_seat/foam_seat_construction.htm>
tailwinds jeff
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| Subject: | Re: flight attitude of XL?? |
it depends on the pitch setting of the prop. Full throttle with climb pitch will
give high rpm at climb then go past 3300 at cruise with no increase in speed.
increase the bite, and at cruise the plane starts to accelarate giving you
a different speed. maybe more than LSA in some. what is imprtant is not the
plane level, but the artificial horizon if you have one. Just set the cruise
for level flight pitch your speed and see where the nose sits out the window.
If artificial Horizon, pitch plane for level flight, waite a minute for plane
to settle, then move horizon. you are now level.
Juan
-----Original Message-----
>From: David Downey <planecrazydld@yahoo.com>
>Sent: Mar 11, 2007 1:00 PM
>To: zenith-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Re: Zenith-List: flight attitude of XL??
>
>Thanks for the reply Juan. Is full throttle level flight in the range of LSA limits?
>
> do not archive
>
>Juan Vega <amyvega2005@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
>it all depends which speed setting you have established in the pitch setting.
At full throttle, level flight, nose is level, at low 2000 rpm pitched for 65knts,
nose is 5 to 10 high.
>
>
>Juan
>
>-----Original Message-----
>>From: David Downey
>
>>Sent: Mar 8, 2007 8:36 PM
>>To: zenith-list@matronics.com
>>Subject: Zenith-List: flight attitude of XL??
>>
>>Would anyone care to comment on the normal flight pitch attitude of a box-stock
XL (Corvair powered)? My observations of in-flight and fly-by videos would
suggest that they tend to operate with the nose high and the tail low in normal
cruise. Does anyone know if this is actually the case or is it an illusion?
>>
>>
>>
>> Dave Downey
>> Harleysville (SE) PA
>> Zodiac 601XL/Corvair?
>>
>>
>>
>>---------------------------------
>>8:00? 8:25? 8:40? Find a flick in no time
>> with theYahoo! Search movie showtime shortcut.
>
>
> Dave Downey
> Harleysville (SE) PA
> Zodiac 601XL/Corvair?
>
>
>
>---------------------------------
>Be a PS3 game guru.
>Get your game face on with the latest PS3 news and previews at Yahoo! Games.
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| Subject: | Re: canopy for 601XL? |
if they have had CG problems (aft) has anyone moved the battery forward of the
firewall mount?
Juan
-----Original Message-----
>From: VideoFlyer@aol.com
>Sent: Mar 8, 2007 5:34 PM
>To: zenith-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Re: Zenith-List: canopy for 601XL?
>
>Let me know what you find out about this. I, too, am interested in a
>different shaped canopy...." to get the reduction in useless height in the center
and
>more useful volume at the sides." The RV canopy is more to my liking.
>
>Dave
>
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| Subject: | Re: Upper extruded Ls |
That's the way I plan on doing mine. The whole object is to have some control
over the process.
--------
Ron Lendon, Clinton Township, MI
Corvair Zodiac XL, ScrapBuilder ;-)
http://www.mykitlog.com/rlendon
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| Subject: | those comfortable seats |
Jeff, thx much for the link, super site and very helpful. thx Pat 701 wisc.
From: "Jeff Small" <zodiacjeff@msn.com>
Subject: Zenith-List: those comfortable seats
Go to the Builders Resources in the ch601.org website and you'll find a few
photos.
http://www.ch601.org/resources/foam_seat/foam_seat_construction.htm<http://www.ch601.org/resources/foam_seat/foam_seat_construction.htm>
tailwinds jeff
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| Subject: | Re: Upper extruded Ls |
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bill Naumuk" <naumuk@alltel.net>
Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2007 1:26 PM
Subject: Zenith-List: Upper extruded Ls
>All
> Well, here we are. 3 months late (Some might say 3 years late), but the
> fuse is
> hooked up to the c-section. Just finished the garanger and still have to
> be careful of
>positioning or I'll run out of room!
> Anyone have an easy way to bend the upper longerons? I'm not crazy about
>building the rig Larry Mac used, but will if I have to.
>
>Bill Naumuk
I used a pipe bender that I'd bought at Harbor Freight for another project.
http://www.lightflyers.com/longeron.jpg
It was a pretty simple process.
Rick Pitcher
http://www.lightflyers.com
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| Subject: | Re: Upper extruded Ls |
Bill,
Take another look at what it takes. Very little effort to get it right
here and you just use the template to check against.
Bend just a little at a time, and you can unbend as needed to get it.
Just take your time.
http://www.macsmachine.com/images/fuselage/full/longeronbend.gif
Larry McFarland at www.macsmachine.com
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Bill Naumuk wrote:
> All-
> Well, here we are. 3 months late (Some might say 3 years late),
> but the fuse is hooked up to the c-section. Just finished the garanger
> and still have to be careful of positioning or I'll run out of room!
> Anyone have an easy way to bend the upper longerons? I'm not crazy
> about building the rig Larry Mac used, but will if I have to.
> Bill Naumuk
> HDS Fuse/Corvair
> Townville, Pa
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
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| Subject: | Re: Upper extruded Ls |
Wade-
I guess it's the casters that threw me.
do not archive
Bill Naumuk
HDS Fuse/Corvair
Townville, Pa
----- Original Message -----
From: wade jones
To: zenith-list@matronics.com
Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2007 4:48 PM
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Upper extruded Ls
Hi Bill ,there may be a better way ,however I used the method used by
Larry Mac .It takes next to nothing to build the jig if you already have
some big "C" clamps
Wade Jones South Texas
601XL plans building
Cont. 0200
----- Original Message -----
From: Bill Naumuk
To: zenith-list@matronics.com
Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2007 3:26 PM
Subject: Zenith-List: Upper extruded Ls
All-
Well, here we are. 3 months late (Some might say 3 years late),
but the fuse is hooked up to the c-section. Just finished the garanger
and still have to be careful of positioning or I'll run out of room!
Anyone have an easy way to bend the upper longerons? I'm not
crazy about building the rig Larry Mac used, but will if I have to.
Bill Naumuk
HDS Fuse/Corvair
Townville, Pa
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| Subject: | Re: Upper extruded Ls |
Rick-
Definitely the way to go, but I can't justify the expense for two bends.
do not archive
Bill Naumuk
HDS Fuse/Corvair
Townville, Pa
----- Original Message -----
From: "R.P." <zodie@adelphia.net>
Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2007 7:51 PM
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Upper extruded Ls
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Bill Naumuk" <naumuk@alltel.net>
> To: <zenith-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2007 1:26 PM
> Subject: Zenith-List: Upper extruded Ls
>
>
>>All
>> Well, here we are. 3 months late (Some might say 3 years late), but the
>> fuse is
>> hooked up to the c-section. Just finished the garanger and still have to
>> be careful of
>>positioning or I'll run out of room!
>> Anyone have an easy way to bend the upper longerons? I'm not crazy about
>>building the rig Larry Mac used, but will if I have to.
>>
>>Bill Naumuk
>
> I used a pipe bender that I'd bought at Harbor Freight for another
> project. http://www.lightflyers.com/longeron.jpg
> It was a pretty simple process.
>
> Rick Pitcher
> http://www.lightflyers.com
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Upper extruded Ls |
Larry-
I'll probably come up with something similar depending on what I find
laying around the corners of the garage.
Bill Naumuk
HDS Fuse/Corvair
Townville, Pa
----- Original Message -----
From: "LarryMcFarland" <larry@macsmachine.com>
Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2007 9:25 PM
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Upper extruded Ls
>
> Bill,
> Take another look at what it takes. Very little effort to get it right
> here and you just use the template to check against.
> Bend just a little at a time, and you can unbend as needed to get it.
> Just take your time.
> http://www.macsmachine.com/images/fuselage/full/longeronbend.gif
>
> Larry McFarland at www.macsmachine.com
> do not archive
>
>
> Bill Naumuk wrote:
>> All-
>> Well, here we are. 3 months late (Some might say 3 years late), but
>> the fuse is hooked up to the c-section. Just finished the garanger and
>> still have to be careful of positioning or I'll run out of room!
>> Anyone have an easy way to bend the upper longerons? I'm not crazy
>> about building the rig Larry Mac used, but will if I have to.
>> Bill Naumuk
>> HDS Fuse/Corvair
>> Townville, Pa
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Upper extruded Ls |
Check out Scott Laughlin's site. He simplified Larry's bender a little. Couldn't
get easier.
Do not archive
Bill Naumuk <naumuk@alltel.net> wrote:
Larry-
I'll probably come up with something similar depending on what I find
laying around the corners of the garage.
Bill Naumuk
HDS Fuse/Corvair
Townville, Pa
----- Original Message -----
From: "LarryMcFarland"
Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2007 9:25 PM
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Upper extruded Ls
>
> Bill,
> Take another look at what it takes. Very little effort to get it right
> here and you just use the template to check against.
> Bend just a little at a time, and you can unbend as needed to get it.
> Just take your time.
> http://www.macsmachine.com/images/fuselage/full/longeronbend.gif
>
> Larry McFarland at www.macsmachine.com
> do not archive
>
>
> Bill Naumuk wrote:
>> All-
>> Well, here we are. 3 months late (Some might say 3 years late), but
>> the fuse is hooked up to the c-section. Just finished the garanger and
>> still have to be careful of positioning or I'll run out of room!
>> Anyone have an easy way to bend the upper longerons? I'm not crazy
>> about building the rig Larry Mac used, but will if I have to.
>> Bill Naumuk
>> HDS Fuse/Corvair
>> Townville, Pa
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>
>
>
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Hi Group,
I built a canopy lock in 3 hours and < $10 for my 601xl. Worddocument wi
th pics is too large for the list. If interested, contact me off list
Mike
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<P>I built a canopy lock in 3 hours and < $10 for my 601xl. Worddocum
ent with pics is too large for the list. If interested, contact me off l
ist</P>
<P>Mike</P>
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