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1. 04:21 AM - Re: Upper extruded Ls (Dave Johnson)
2. 08:46 AM - Re: canopy lock (kkinney)
3. 01:02 PM - Re: LRI pickup (dj45)
4. 03:57 PM - Longeron bender (Bill Naumuk)
5. 04:12 PM - Strapping the Stab (Ron Miller)
6. 04:20 PM - Re: Re: SORT OF AIRCRAFT RELATED (R.P.)
7. 04:30 PM - Re: Re: SORT OF AIRCRAFT RELATED (R.P.)
8. 04:39 PM - Re: Strapping the Stab (Paul Mulwitz)
9. 04:45 PM - Re: Re: SORT OF AIRCRAFT RELATED (n801bh@netzero.com)
10. 04:59 PM - Re: Longeron bender (LarryMcFarland)
11. 05:06 PM - Maintenance Manual (robert stone)
12. 05:13 PM - Re: Maintenance Manual (R.P.)
13. 05:18 PM - Re: Strapping the Stab (Bill Naumuk)
14. 05:20 PM - Re: Longeron bender (Bill Naumuk)
15. 06:18 PM - Re: Longeron bender/ reinvented (Big Gee)
16. 06:39 PM - Re: Longeron bender/ reinvented (Bill Naumuk)
17. 07:07 PM - Re: Longeron bender (Ron Lendon)
18. 07:12 PM - Re: Maintenance Manual (Jeff)
19. 08:16 PM - Jabiru 3300 Engine Maintenance Manua (robert stone)
20. 09:16 PM - Re: Re: SORT OF AIRCRAFT RELATED (Fred Johnson)
21. 09:19 PM - Re: Re: SORT OF AIRCRAFT RELATED (Fred Johnson)
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| Subject: | Re: Upper extruded Ls |
I used this technique, but using a vice (vise?) for better control.
One problem is that the longeron tries to bend sideways as you bend it. My
solution was to clamp both longerons back to back to form a T section and
bend them both together, they tend to stay flat if you do that, as they are
each trying to bend in oppposite directions, so cancel out. It also has the
advantage that you get both longerons to exactly the same curve - and if you
are REALLY lucky, it might even be the CORRECT curve!!
Dave Johnson
601XL from a kit (in the UK)
Wings, tail and most of the fuselage done, waiting for the instruments
(Dynon D100 & D120) and engine Jab.3300)
----- Original Message -----
From: "LarryMcFarland" <larry@macsmachine.com>
Sent: Monday, March 12, 2007 1:25 AM
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Upper extruded Ls
>
> Bill,
> Take another look at what it takes. Very little effort to get it right
> here and you just use the template to check against.
> Bend just a little at a time, and you can unbend as needed to get it.
> Just take your time.
> http://www.macsmachine.com/images/fuselage/full/longeronbend.gif
>
> Larry McFarland at www.macsmachine.com
> do not archive
>
>
> Bill Naumuk wrote:
>> All-
>> Well, here we are. 3 months late (Some might say 3 years late), but
>> the fuse is hooked up to the c-section. Just finished the garanger and
>> still have to be careful of positioning or I'll run out of room!
>> Anyone have an easy way to bend the upper longerons? I'm not crazy
>> about building the rig Larry Mac used, but will if I have to.
>> Bill Naumuk
>> HDS Fuse/Corvair
>> Townville, Pa
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>
>
>
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I've found a cheap source for canopy friendly locks. Your average PC usually has
a suitable lock in the back of it. (Provided you can find the keys.)
I don't know about the suitability for outdoor applications, but then I wouldn't
probably know that even if I bought one in a hardware store.
Now if I could only find an electronic version for my "Starter Enable" switch...
Regards,
Kevin Kinney
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http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=100069#100069
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Sorry Guys,
I just got off the phone with the machinist and he wants $70 each for the LRI.
Scott Laughlin (cookingwithgas@hotmail.com)sells them for $50 plus the face and
instructions. So I guess that would be the way to go.
Scott is trying to get his plane in the air, so maybe it will be awhile before
he can get too them. If you just can't wait, this guy can do them now.
I got more time than money, If you are short on time let me know.
--------
Do not archive
Dan Stanton
90% done 90% to go
801, Deltahawk Diesel
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http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=100097#100097
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All-
Wow! This is the way things should work- tons of ideas rather than
locked and loaded flamethrowers! The main points are:
1. What's the sense of the wood template if all you're using it for
is to check the final bend?
2. Larry Mac's jig makes sense from a physics standpoint. An HF
bender is ideal if you want to spend the money (Or find a place to store
it, in my case).
3. You have to make sure the bend occurs perpendicular to the
workbench or you induce an axial twist.
Here's my basic idea- feel free to chime in-
1. Cut the center chunk of the template (Between the straight parts)
out of 2x4.
2. Cut a kerf on the top and bottom of your little template the
thickness and width of the L.
3. Set the rollers of Larry's jig maybe 10mm outboard of the 850mm
on the left side of the template and the 100mm on the right side of the
template.
4. Use a c-clamp to drive the template into the L angle. You might
have to do a little tweaking, but not much.
Thoughts?
Bill Naumuk
HDS Fuse/Corvair
Townville, Pa
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| Subject: | Strapping the Stab |
Hi All,
Relative newbie lurker here. I have started my 601XT with kits from Zenith. Rudder
went together fine. I am now on the stab and have what may be a dumb question.
Here goes - the kit comes with alignment holes drilled for the skin. I have attached
the lower side, turned everything over and am ready to close. If I follow
the procedure of using the straps to pull everything into alignment, I quickly
pull the forward flange pre-drilled holes in the skin past the center line
of the flange.
Shouldn't I just line up the holes with the midline I have drawn on the flange,
drill and cleco? Wouldn't that guarantee alignment of the rest of the skin?
What am I misssing here?
Do not archive.
Ron
601XL San Diego
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| Subject: | Re: SORT OF AIRCRAFT RELATED |
Hi John.
I'm a Zodiac builder/flyer who hangars nearby (WJF Fox Field)
I've stopped at Apple Valley a few times for fuel and luch, I'd love to drop
in and check out your plane. What days are you usually out there? You have a
cellphone # I could call to see if you're at the hangar next time I'm out
that way?
Rick Pitcher
AND a fellow Zodiac builcer and throat cancer survivor
----- Original Message -----
From: "JOHN STARN" <jhstarn@verizon.net>
Sent: Wednesday, January 03, 2007 3:04 PM
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Re: SORT OF AIRCRAFT RELATED
Ex-Det. Sgt Fontana PD, plumbing , heating A/C contractor, BA in Criminal
Justice, CalState San Bernardino, Calif. Teaching credential Chapman
University, teacher-coach K-12th grades. ex-CAF Col.( got to work on
Corsair, TBM, AT-6, PT-19 etc) EAA Tech. Counselor, Young Eagles Coord.
Chapter #768. Built & fly HRII N561FS with partner.
Driving 7th Corvette (first one '57 3speed in 1963), current '92 Red LT1
coupe 6 speed. 19 years as "Voice of the Raven's" (Bloomington Christian
High School) until cancer took voicebox. Great friends & family. KABONG Do
Not Archive
----- Original Message -----
From: paulrod36@msn.com
To: zenith-list
Sent: Wednesday, January 03, 2007 12:42 PM
Subject: Zenith-List: Re: SORT OF AIRCRAFT RELATED
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| Subject: | Re: SORT OF AIRCRAFT RELATED |
Sorry guys.
That was supposed to be a private message to John. I forgot that it was a
list posting when I clicked on the reply button.
do not archive
Rick Pitcher
----- Original Message -----
From: "R.P." <zodie@adelphia.net>
Sent: Monday, March 12, 2007 4:19 PM
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Re: SORT OF AIRCRAFT RELATED
>
> Hi John.
> I'm a Zodiac builder/flyer who hangars nearby (WJF Fox Field)
> I've stopped at Apple Valley a few times for fuel and luch, I'd love to
> drop in and check out your plane. What days are you usually out there? You
> have a cellphone # I could call to see if you're at the hangar next time
> I'm out that way?
>
> Rick Pitcher
> AND a fellow Zodiac builcer and throat cancer survivor
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "JOHN STARN" <jhstarn@verizon.net>
> To: <zenith-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, January 03, 2007 3:04 PM
> Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Re: SORT OF AIRCRAFT RELATED
>
>
> Ex-Det. Sgt Fontana PD, plumbing , heating A/C contractor, BA in Criminal
> Justice, CalState San Bernardino, Calif. Teaching credential Chapman
> University, teacher-coach K-12th grades. ex-CAF Col.( got to work on
> Corsair, TBM, AT-6, PT-19 etc) EAA Tech. Counselor, Young Eagles Coord.
> Chapter #768. Built & fly HRII N561FS with partner.
> Driving 7th Corvette (first one '57 3speed in 1963), current '92 Red LT1
> coupe 6 speed. 19 years as "Voice of the Raven's" (Bloomington Christian
> High School) until cancer took voicebox. Great friends & family. KABONG
> Do Not Archive
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: paulrod36@msn.com
> To: zenith-list
> Sent: Wednesday, January 03, 2007 12:42 PM
> Subject: Zenith-List: Re: SORT OF AIRCRAFT RELATED
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Strapping the Stab |
Hi Ron,
I think that is a question for Zenith tech support. Most of us
(including me) didn't have the predrilled holes you have and we have
not experienced this sort of problem. Perhaps there is a problem
with the holes or maybe not.
Paul
XL fuselage
do not archive
At 03:12 PM 3/12/2007, you wrote:
>
>Hi All,
>
>Relative newbie lurker here. I have started my 601XT with kits from
>Zenith. Rudder went together fine. I am now on the stab and have
>what may be a dumb question.
>Here goes - the kit comes with alignment holes drilled for the
>skin. I have attached the lower side, turned everything over and am
>ready to close. If I follow the procedure of using the straps to
>pull everything into alignment, I quickly pull the forward flange
>pre-drilled holes in the skin past the center line of the flange.
>Shouldn't I just line up the holes with the midline I have drawn on
>the flange, drill and cleco? Wouldn't that guarantee alignment of
>the rest of the skin?
>What am I misssing here?
>Do not archive.
>
>Ron
>601XL San Diego
-
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| Subject: | Re: SORT OF AIRCRAFT RELATED |
I hate it when I do the same thing.... And it is a Monday too... <G>
do not archive
Ben Haas
N801BH
www.haaspowerair.com
-- "R.P." <zodie@adelphia.net> wrote:
Sorry guys.
That was supposed to be a private message to John. I forgot that it was
a
list posting when I clicked on the reply button.
do not archive
Rick Pitcher
----- Original Message -----
From: "R.P." <zodie@adelphia.net>
Sent: Monday, March 12, 2007 4:19 PM
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Re: SORT OF AIRCRAFT RELATED
>
> Hi John.
> I'm a Zodiac builder/flyer who hangars nearby (WJF Fox Field)
> I've stopped at Apple Valley a few times for fuel and luch, I'd love t
o
> drop in and check out your plane. What days are you usually out there?
You
> have a cellphone # I could call to see if you're at the hangar next ti
me
> I'm out that way?
>
> Rick Pitcher
> AND a fellow Zodiac builcer and throat cancer survivor
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "JOHN STARN" <jhstarn@verizon.net>
> To: <zenith-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, January 03, 2007 3:04 PM
> Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Re: SORT OF AIRCRAFT RELATED
>
>
> Ex-Det. Sgt Fontana PD, plumbing , heating A/C contractor, BA in Crimi
nal
> Justice, CalState San Bernardino, Calif. Teaching credential Chapman
> University, teacher-coach K-12th grades. ex-CAF Col.( got to work on
> Corsair, TBM, AT-6, PT-19 etc) EAA Tech. Counselor, Young Eagles Coord
.
> Chapter #768. Built & fly HRII N561FS with partner.
> Driving 7th Corvette (first one '57 3speed in 1963), current '92 Red L
T1
> coupe 6 speed. 19 years as "Voice of the Raven's" (Bloomington Christi
an
> High School) until cancer took voicebox. Great friends & family. KABO
NG
> Do Not Archive
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: paulrod36@msn.com
> To: zenith-list
> Sent: Wednesday, January 03, 2007 12:42 PM
> Subject: Zenith-List: Re: SORT OF AIRCRAFT RELATED
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Longeron bender |
Hi Bill,
If you have the template as nothing more than a left and right line on
the table, you're there. Just bend the thing and you'll find out that
you'll have it
done in less than 30 minutes both sides including adjustments. A
template can be flipped to assure symmetry. Just pushing into a
template will leave
you with a need for another 10 degrees or more. Easier to bend just a
little bit at a time to come up on a line or template.
Larry McFarland at www.macsmachine.com
do not archive
Bill Naumuk wrote:
> All-
> Wow! This is the way things should work- tons of ideas rather than
> locked and loaded flamethrowers! The main points are:
> 1. What's the sense of the wood template if all you're using it
> for is to check the final bend?
> 2. Larry Mac's jig makes sense from a physics standpoint. An HF
> bender is ideal if you want to spend the money (Or find a place to
> store it, in my case).
> 3. You have to make sure the bend occurs perpendicular to the
> workbench or you induce an axial twist.
> Here's my basic idea- feel free to chime in-
> 1. Cut the center chunk of the template (Between the straight
> parts) out of 2x4.
> 2. Cut a kerf on the top and bottom of your little template the
> thickness and width of the L.
> 3. Set the rollers of Larry's jig maybe 10mm outboard of the 850mm
> on the left side of the template and the 100mm on the right side of
> the template.
> 4. Use a c-clamp to drive the template into the L angle. You might
> have to do a little tweaking, but not much.
> Thoughts?
>
> Bill Naumuk
> HDS Fuse/Corvair
> Townville, Pa
> *
>
>
> *
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| Subject: | Maintenance Manual |
Members,
So far I have written three e-mails to Jabiru asking questions and
have yet to receive an answer. The last one was, is there a maintenance
manuel available for the Jabiru 3300 engine. If anyone out there knows
if a manuel is available and where I could get one I would be greatfull.
I am going to try to contact Jabiru direct in Austraula and see if I
can get some answers.
Tracy Stone
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| Subject: | Re: Maintenance Manual |
Try this page for downloads
http://jabiru.net.au/service%20bulletinbodyFrame-1.htm
Rick Pitcher
----- Original Message -----
From: "robert stone" <rstone4@hot.rr.com>
Sent: Monday, March 12, 2007 5:03 PM
Subject: Zenith-List: Maintenance Manual
Members,
So far I have written three e-mails to Jabiru asking questions and have
yet to receive an answer. The last one was, is there a maintenance manuel
available for the Jabiru 3300 engine. If anyone out there knows if a manuel
is available and where I could get one I would be greatfull. I am going to
try to contact Jabiru direct in Austraula and see if I can get some answers.
Tracy Stone
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| Subject: | Re: Strapping the Stab |
Ron-
Did you have the correct spacers under the skeleton and everything
nailed down before attaching the bottom? You should have your spar clamped
to L blocks to keep everything from moving. Picture attached to give you an
idea of what I'm talking about.
do not archive
Bill Naumuk
HDS Fuse/Corvair
Townville, Pa
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ron Miller" <flystol@bluebottle.com>
Sent: Monday, March 12, 2007 7:12 PM
Subject: Zenith-List: Strapping the Stab
>
> Hi All,
>
> Relative newbie lurker here. I have started my 601XT with kits from
> Zenith. Rudder went together fine. I am now on the stab and have what
> may be a dumb question.
> Here goes - the kit comes with alignment holes drilled for the skin. I
> have attached the lower side, turned everything over and am ready to
> close. If I follow the procedure of using the straps to pull everything
> into alignment, I quickly pull the forward flange pre-drilled holes in the
> skin past the center line of the flange.
> Shouldn't I just line up the holes with the midline I have drawn on the
> flange, drill and cleco? Wouldn't that guarantee alignment of the rest of
> the skin?
> What am I misssing here?
> Do not archive.
>
> Ron
> 601XL San Diego
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> Not making enough money? Click here to get free info on medical jobs
> http://tags.bluebottle.com/fc/CAaCMPJk1mHgOrC1zqUDm2q69eiiqXS2/
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Longeron bender |
Larry-
In other words, I'm making it more complicated than necessary. I have
some 10' long cardboard I can draw the template on and blew $4 on the
components to build your jig. Guess I'm committed now!
do not archive
Bill Naumuk
HDS Fuse/Corvair
Townville, Pa
----- Original Message -----
From: "LarryMcFarland" <larry@macsmachine.com>
Sent: Monday, March 12, 2007 7:58 PM
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Longeron bender
>
> Hi Bill,
> If you have the template as nothing more than a left and right line on the
> table, you're there. Just bend the thing and you'll find out that you'll
> have it
> done in less than 30 minutes both sides including adjustments. A template
> can be flipped to assure symmetry. Just pushing into a template will
> leave
> you with a need for another 10 degrees or more. Easier to bend just a
> little bit at a time to come up on a line or template.
>
> Larry McFarland at www.macsmachine.com
> do not archive
>
> Bill Naumuk wrote:
>> All-
>> Wow! This is the way things should work- tons of ideas rather than
>> locked and loaded flamethrowers! The main points are: 1. What's the sense
>> of the wood template if all you're using it for is to check the final
>> bend?
>> 2. Larry Mac's jig makes sense from a physics standpoint. An HF
>> bender is ideal if you want to spend the money (Or find a place to store
>> it, in my case).
>> 3. You have to make sure the bend occurs perpendicular to the
>> workbench or you induce an axial twist.
>> Here's my basic idea- feel free to chime in-
>> 1. Cut the center chunk of the template (Between the straight parts)
>> out of 2x4.
>> 2. Cut a kerf on the top and bottom of your little template the
>> thickness and width of the L.
>> 3. Set the rollers of Larry's jig maybe 10mm outboard of the 850mm on
>> the left side of the template and the 100mm on the right side of the
>> template.
>> 4. Use a c-clamp to drive the template into the L angle. You might
>> have to do a little tweaking, but not much.
>> Thoughts? Bill Naumuk
>> HDS Fuse/Corvair
>> Townville, Pa
>> *
>>
>>
>> *
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Longeron bender/ reinvented |
why re-invent the wheel ????? Bill, have you bent any longerons yet ????
=0A=0A=0A----- Original Message ----=0AFrom: Bill Naumuk <naumuk@alltel.net
>=0ATo: zenith-list@matronics.com=0ASent: Monday, March 12, 2007 6:55:52 PM
=0ASubject: Zenith-List: Longeron bender=0A=0A=0AAll-=0A Wow! This is th
e way things should work- tons of ideas rather than locked and loaded flame
throwers! The main points are: =0A 1. What's the sense of the wood templ
ate if all you're using it for is to check the final bend?=0A 2. Larry M
ac's jig makes sense from a physics standpoint. An HF bender is ideal if yo
u want to spend the money (Or find a place to store it, in my case).=0A
3. You have to make sure the bend occurs perpendicular to the workbench or
you induce an axial twist.=0A Here's my basic idea- feel free to chime i
n-=0A 1. Cut the center chunk of the template (Between the straight part
s) out of 2x4.=0A 2. Cut a kerf on the top and bottom of your little tem
plate the thickness and width of the L.=0A 3. Set the rollers of Larry's
jig maybe 10mm outboard of the 850mm on the left side of the template and
the 100mm on the right side of the template. =0A 4. Use a c-clamp to dri
ve the template into the L angle. You might have to do a little tweaking, b
ut not much.=0A Thoughts? =0A =0ABill Naumuk=0AHDS Fuse/Corvair=0ATow
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| Subject: | Re: Longeron bender/ reinvented |
Nope. But I will.
do not archive
Bill Naumuk
HDS Fuse/Corvair
Townville, Pa
----- Original Message -----
From: Big Gee
To: zenith-list@matronics.com
Sent: Monday, March 12, 2007 9:16 PM
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Longeron bender/ reinvented
why re-invent the wheel ????? Bill, have you bent any longerons yet
????
----- Original Message ----
From: Bill Naumuk <naumuk@alltel.net>
To: zenith-list@matronics.com
Sent: Monday, March 12, 2007 6:55:52 PM
Subject: Zenith-List: Longeron bender
All-
Wow! This is the way things should work- tons of ideas rather than
locked and loaded flamethrowers! The main points are:
1. What's the sense of the wood template if all you're using it
for is to check the final bend?
2. Larry Mac's jig makes sense from a physics standpoint. An HF
bender is ideal if you want to spend the money (Or find a place to store
it, in my case).
3. You have to make sure the bend occurs perpendicular to the
workbench or you induce an axial twist.
Here's my basic idea- feel free to chime in-
1. Cut the center chunk of the template (Between the straight
parts) out of 2x4.
2. Cut a kerf on the top and bottom of your little template the
thickness and width of the L.
3. Set the rollers of Larry's jig maybe 10mm outboard of the 850mm
on the left side of the template and the 100mm on the right side of the
template.
4. Use a c-clamp to drive the template into the L angle. You might
have to do a little tweaking, but not much.
Thoughts?
Bill Naumuk
HDS Fuse/Corvair
Townville, Pa
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| Subject: | Re: Longeron bender |
Thats the way to do it Bill. Metal has spring back and always needs to be bend
a little farther than the final result. Do as Larry says, sneak up on it a little
at a time. That setup will give you the control you need.
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Ron Lendon, Clinton Township, MI
Corvair Zodiac XL, ScrapBuilder ;-)
http://www.mykitlog.com/rlendon
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=100205#100205
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| Subject: | Maintenance Manual |
Tracy,
There are multiple Jabiru dealers. I have had good luck with
all of them, but one is somewhat harder to get a hold of. Try posting on
the Matronics JabiruEngine list. At least two dealers are trying to get
customers to use it. There is a lot of traffic on the Yahoo JabiruEngine
Group including the dealers. Normally, you can get Andy at SunCoast on the
phone directly. At JabiruUSA, Dana will get an answer for you and phone you
back. I haven't used the West Coast dealer much, but the reports I have
seen are good.
At the JabiruUSA workshop I attended, there was something like a
maintenance manual put together by Don Richtar for the class. It has a
checklist for each inspection, typical troubleshooting problems found, types
of sealants to use, engine part numbers, torque values, etc. Ask Pete about
it. If you don't have any luck, let me know and I ask him if I can copy
mine for you.
Jeff Davidson
So far I have written three e-mails to Jabiru asking questions and have yet
to receive an answer. The last one was, is there a maintenance manuel
available for the Jabiru 3300 engine. If anyone out there knows if a manuel
is available and where I could get one I would be greatfull. I am going to
try to contact Jabiru direct in Austraula and see if I can get some answers.
Tracy Stone
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| Subject: | Jabiru 3300 Engine Maintenance Manua |
Rick & Tod,
Both of you sent me the same thing and It's just what I need,
Thanks to both of you for the response. I am goint to print the entire
manual out 40 pages at a time and then put all in a binder.
For those of you who have experenced a rough running engine try
looking at the little hose that goes from the carb to the filter box.
If it's disconnected, that may be your problem. It was mine. If
everything is hooked up right the Jabiru 3300 engine will run very
strong and smooth as silk.
Tracy Stone
ZodiacXL w/Jabiru 3300
Harker Heights, Tx
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| Subject: | Re: SORT OF AIRCRAFT RELATED |
Hi Rick I am not John, I am Fred Johnson and I have a 601 HD at Apple
Valley. My home phone is 760-242-67120, my cell is 760-900-4870. I am not a
bulder, I bought mine and flew it out from Georgia with Ron Caraway. We
could all say hi one day. Fred, P S I am two rows aver from Jack and Tom
--Do not archive--- Original Message -----
From: "R.P." <zodie@adelphia.net>
Sent: Monday, March 12, 2007 3:19 PM
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Re: SORT OF AIRCRAFT RELATED
>
> Hi John.
> I'm a Zodiac builder/flyer who hangars nearby (WJF Fox Field)
> I've stopped at Apple Valley a few times for fuel and luch, I'd love to
drop
> in and check out your plane. What days are you usually out there? You have
a
> cellphone # I could call to see if you're at the hangar next time I'm out
> that way?
>
> Rick Pitcher
> AND a fellow Zodiac builcer and throat cancer survivor
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "JOHN STARN" <jhstarn@verizon.net>
> To: <zenith-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, January 03, 2007 3:04 PM
> Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Re: SORT OF AIRCRAFT RELATED
>
>
> Ex-Det. Sgt Fontana PD, plumbing , heating A/C contractor, BA in Criminal
> Justice, CalState San Bernardino, Calif. Teaching credential Chapman
> University, teacher-coach K-12th grades. ex-CAF Col.( got to work on
> Corsair, TBM, AT-6, PT-19 etc) EAA Tech. Counselor, Young Eagles Coord.
> Chapter #768. Built & fly HRII N561FS with partner.
> Driving 7th Corvette (first one '57 3speed in 1963), current '92 Red LT1
> coupe 6 speed. 19 years as "Voice of the Raven's" (Bloomington Christian
> High School) until cancer took voicebox. Great friends & family. KABONG
Do
> Not Archive
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: paulrod36@msn.com
> To: zenith-list
> Sent: Wednesday, January 03, 2007 12:42 PM
> Subject: Zenith-List: Re: SORT OF AIRCRAFT RELATED
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: SORT OF AIRCRAFT RELATED |
Rick, It looks like I did the same thing sorry every one. Fred Do not
archive
----- Original Message -----
From: n801bh@netzero.com
To: zenith-list@matronics.com
Sent: Monday, March 12, 2007 3:44 PM
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Re: SORT OF AIRCRAFT RELATED
I hate it when I do the same thing.... And it is a Monday too... <G>
do not archive
Ben Haas
N801BH
www.haaspowerair.com
-- "R.P." <zodie@adelphia.net> wrote:
Sorry guys.
That was supposed to be a private message to John. I forgot that it
was a
list posting when I clicked on the reply button.
do not archive
Rick Pitcher
----- Original Message -----
From: "R.P." <zodie@adelphia.net>
To: <zenith-list@matronics.com>
Sent: Monday, March 12, 2007 4:19 PM
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Re: SORT OF AIRCRAFT RELATED
>
> Hi John.
> I'm a Zodiac builder/flyer who hangars nearby (WJF Fox Field)
> I've stopped at Apple Valley a few times for fuel and luch, I'd love
to
> drop in and check out your plane. What days are you usually out
there? You
> have a cellphone # I could call to see if you're at the hangar next
time
> I'm out that way?
>
> Rick Pitcher
> AND a fellow Zodiac builcer and throat cancer survivor
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "JOHN STARN" <jhstarn@verizon.net>
> To: <zenith-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, January 03, 2007 3:04 PM
> Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Re: SORT OF AIRCRAFT RELATED
>
>
> Ex-Det. Sgt Fontana PD, plumbing , heating A/C contractor, BA in
Criminal
> Justice, CalState San Bernardino, Calif. Teaching credential Chapman
> University, teacher-coach K-12th grades. ex-CAF Col.( got to work on
> Corsair, TBM, AT-6, PT-19 etc) EAA Tech. Counselor, Young Eagles
Coord.
> Chapter #768. Built & fly HRII N561FS with partner.
> Driving 7th Corvette (first one '57 3speed in 1963), current '92 Red
LT1
> coupe 6 speed. 19 years as "Voice of the Raven's" (Bloomington
Christian
> High School) until cancer took voicebox. Great friends & family.
KABONG
> Do Not Archive
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: paulrod36@msn.com
> To: zenith-list
> Sent: Wednesday, January 03, 2007 12:42 PM
> Subject: Zenith-List: Re: SORT OF AIRCRAFT RELATED
>
>
>
>
>
>
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