---------------------------------------------------------- Zenith-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Tue 03/13/07: 17 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 05:05 AM - Re: Strapping the Stab (DaveG601XL) 2. 06:24 AM - Zenith Zip 2007 (Ettore Petaccia) 3. 06:40 AM - Re: Maintenance Manual (Charles Wacker) 4. 07:12 AM - Oil Pressure Switch (Jeffrey A Beachy) 5. 07:22 AM - Re: Oil Pressure Switch (NYTerminat@aol.com) 6. 10:05 AM - Re: Maintenance Manual (japhillipsga@aol.com) 7. 10:16 AM - Re: Re: LRI pickup (japhillipsga@aol.com) 8. 11:16 AM - Re: LRI pickup (Gig Giacona) 9. 11:40 AM - Re: wing extentions (Peter Fox) 10. 12:03 PM - Re: Maintenance Manual (Pete Krotje) 11. 01:12 PM - Re: Maintenance Manual (Southern Reflections) 12. 01:34 PM - Firewall angle (was Maintenance Manual) (Craig Payne) 13. 01:39 PM - Re: wing extentions (ROBERT SCEPPA) 14. 03:02 PM - test (Southern Reflections) 15. 03:14 PM - Re: Misdirected emails (do not archive) (R.P.) 16. 03:41 PM - Re: Re: Longeron bender (Bill Naumuk) 17. 06:23 PM - XL Center console (Tim Juhl) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 05:05:06 AM PST US Subject: Zenith-List: Re: Strapping the Stab From: "DaveG601XL" Ron, I had the pre-drilled skin like you and I remember this going fairly easily. From what I remember, when the line on the front spar flange was visible, the aft edge of the skin lined up nicely with the rear spar trailing edge. After you get it strapped and everything is level, sqaure and not twisted as referenced in the guides, go ahead and trial fit the end ribs to get the warm fuzzy that it looks right before drilling. Good luck, DaveG -------- David Gallagher 601 XL, tail and wings completed, starting fueslage. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=100252#100252 ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 06:24:37 AM PST US From: "Ettore Petaccia" Subject: Zenith-List: Zenith Zip 2007 "Title: Zenith Zip 2007 The RAA Toronto chapter will be hosting the Zenith Zip 2007 at the Brampton airport, May 19-21. This event will appeal to all Zenith owners and enthusiasts, as well as to everyone who "would rather be flying"! Activities include lunch, construction and other technical workshops, pilot recurrency, exhibits by the sponsors, tire-kicking, BBQ dinner and social. Event is on Saturday and Sunday, Monday as a rain day. Possibility of lodging locally or camping under the wing. Info: Pierre Tanguay (613) 687-0037, pierre12@magma.ca or Alain Ouellet, (905) 458-5424, aouellet@icecanada.com." ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 06:40:40 AM PST US From: "Charles Wacker" Subject: RE: Zenith-List: Maintenance Manual You should have recieved one on a cd with the engine as well as a parts list on cd. Chuck Wacker\601XL Quick Build >From: "robert stone" >To: "Zenith list" >Subject: Zenith-List: Maintenance Manual >Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 19:03:39 -0500 > >Members, > So far I have written three e-mails to Jabiru asking questions and >have yet to receive an answer. The last one was, is there a maintenance >manuel available for the Jabiru 3300 engine. If anyone out there knows if >a manuel is available and where I could get one I would be greatfull. I am >going to try to contact Jabiru direct in Austraula and see if I can get >some answers. > >Tracy Stone _________________________________________________________________ Mortgage rates as low as 4.625% - Refinance $150,000 loan for $579 a month. Intro*Terms https://www2.nextag.com/goto.jsp?product=100000035&url=%2fst.jsp&tm=y&search=mortgage_text_links_88_h27f6&disc=y&vers=743&s=4056&p=5117 ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 07:12:35 AM PST US Subject: Zenith-List: Oil Pressure Switch From: Jeffrey A Beachy Anyone use the oil pressure switch from Lockwood for their Hobbs meter? If yes, how is the wiring hooked up? Jeff Beachy CH701 ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 07:22:17 AM PST US From: NYTerminat@aol.com Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Oil Pressure Switch I just wired my Hobbs to the Alternator switch. The only time that I use the Alt switch is when I run the engine. If you already have the switch, it is a normally open switch and will close when you apply oil pressure. Connect the ground lead of the Hobbs to the oil pressure switch and that will activate it when the engine is running. Obviously you need +12v to the other side of the Hobbs meter which should be fused and connected through your Power switch. Bob Spudis N701ZX/ waiting for the snow to clear and the ground to dry up In a message dated 3/13/2007 10:14:02 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, beachyjeff@juno.com writes: Anyone use the oil pressure switch from Lockwood for their Hobbs meter? If yes, how is the wiring hooked up? Jeff Beachy CH701


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AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com. ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 10:05:08 AM PST US Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Maintenance Manual From: japhillipsga@aol.com Tracy, when you buy an engine the CD comes with the installation and maintenance data. I'm sure the Jab folks would sell you one. Also, if you try Pete at Jab Tennessee and get nothing try Andy at Jab Florida (Suncoast ?). Sometimes he can help when the Tennessee folks are elsewhere, Best of luck, Bill of Georgia -----Original Message----- From: ccwacker@HOTMAIL.COM Sent: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 8:39 AM Subject: RE: Zenith-List: Maintenance Manual You should have recieved one on a cd with the engine as well as a parts list on cd. Chuck Wacker\601XL Quick Build >From: "robert stone" >To: "Zenith list" >Subject: Zenith-List: Maintenance Manual >Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 19:03:39 -0500 > >Members, > So far I have written three e-mails to Jabiru asking questions and >have yet to receive an answer. The last one was, is there a maintenance >manuel available for the Jabiru 3300 engine. If anyone out there knows if >a manuel is available and where I could get one I would be greatfull. I am >going to try to contact Jabiru direct in Austraula and see if I can get >some answers. > >Tracy Stone _________________________________________________________________ Mortgage rates as low as 4.625% - Refinance $150,000 loan for $579 a month. Intro*Terms https://www2.nextag.com/goto.jsp?product=100000035&url=%2fst.jsp&tm=y&search=mortgage_text_links_88_h27f6&disc=y&vers=743&s=4056&p=5117 ________________________________________________________________________ AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at AOL.com. ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 10:16:01 AM PST US Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Re: LRI pickup From: japhillipsga@aol.com Dan, I flew my XL this morning in prep for my Biannual flight review this weekend and the LRI is a charm at power off stalls. Just as the needle goes into the red I feel the bumping. I made a "short field" landing with full flaps and the needle at the line between red and yellow and touchdown on a dime. I think Scott made the probe I installed and I got the dial face from him. Power on stalls are real problem with my XL. The Jab 3300 just pulls you over past vertical into a loop. Maybe I need to start slower ? Best regards and I recommend LRI. Bill of Georgia -----Original Message----- From: dj45@modempool.com Sent: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 3:01 PM Subject: Zenith-List: Re: LRI pickup Sorry Guys, I just got off the phone with the machinist and he wants $70 each for the LRI. Scott Laughlin (cookingwithgas@hotmail.com)sells them for $50 plus the face and instructions. So I guess that would be the way to go. Scott is trying to get his plane in the air, so maybe it will be awhile before he can get too them. If you just can't wait, this guy can do them now. I got more time than money, If you are short on time let me know. -------- Do not archive Dan Stanton 90% done 90% to go 801, Deltahawk Diesel Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=100097#100097 ________________________________________________________________________ AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at AOL.com. ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 11:16:11 AM PST US Subject: Zenith-List: Re: LRI pickup From: "Gig Giacona" I've not yet had the chance to have the problem in a 601 but I have flown planes that did the same thing. And you are right, slow down before you begin. What you are trying to duplicate in a power on stall is a stall shortly after takeoff so slow down to just above your normal take off speed say about 10% above it. japhillipsga(at)aol.com wrote: > Power on stalls are real problem with my XL. The Jab 3300 just pulls you over past vertical into a loop. Maybe I need to start slower ? Best regards and I recommend LRI. Bill of Georgia > > -- -------- W.R. "Gig" Giacona 601XL Under Construction See my progress at www.peoamerica.net/N601WR Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=100315#100315 ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 11:40:21 AM PST US From: "Peter Fox" Subject: Re: Zenith-List: wing extentions hello Brian i"m new to this site a buddy of mine and his girl helped me set up on this bbs any how let me see if i can shed some light on your query as far as i can tell from my many years studying this problem a (wing extension )is a bit like those spam e-mails you get that promise to extend other longeron /spars ,might i say in this aspect /ratio its all about the lift you get from a bigger wing... your truly Les Apt On 3/3/07, Brian Bowen wrote: > > > Hi, > I read a few days back , someone was looking for info on wing extentions > for the CH701. > I am also interested but can't find it in the archive. Any help would be > appreciated. > Thanks > Brian > > _________________________________________________________________ > Win a trip for four to a concert anywhere in the world! > http://www.mobilelivetour.ca/ > > ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 12:03:42 PM PST US From: "Pete Krotje" Subject: RE: Zenith-List: Maintenance Manual Jabiru engine maintenance, installation, and parts manuals are available on the Jabiru USA web site www.usjabiru.com in the service bulletin & manual section. Also at Sun Coast Sport planes web site www.suncoastjabiru.com , also on the west coast Jabiru dealer site www.jabirupacific.com , and also on the Jabiru factory site www.jabiru.net.au . The manuals are probably on more Jabiru dealer sites as well. Just go to one and download. Pete Krotje Jabiru USA Sport Aircraft, LLC _____ From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of japhillipsga@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2007 12:04 PM Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Maintenance Manual Tracy, when you buy an engine the CD comes with the installation and maintenance data. I'm sure the Jab folks would sell you one. Also, if you try Pete at Jab Tennessee and get nothing try Andy at Jab Florida (Suncoast ?). Sometimes he can help when the Tennessee folks are elsewhere, Best of luck, Bill of Georgia -----Original Message----- From: ccwacker@HOTMAIL.COM Sent: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 8:39 AM Subject: RE: Zenith-List: Maintenance Manual > You should have recieved one on a cd with the engine as well as a parts list on cd. Chuck Wacker\601XL Quick Build >From: "robert stone" < rstone4@hot.rr.com> >To: "Zenith list" > >Subject: Zenith-List: Maintenance Manual >Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 19:03:39 -0500 > >Members, > So far I have written three e-mails to Jabiru asking questions and >have yet to receive an answer. The last one was, is there a maintenance >manuel available for the Jabiru 3300 engine. If anyone out there knows if >a manuel is available and where I could get one I would be greatfull. I am >going to try to contact Jabiru direct in Austraula and see if I can get >some answers. > >Tracy Stone _________________________________________________________________ Mortgage rates as low as 4.625% - Refinance $150,000 loan for $579 a month. Intro*Terms https://www2.nextag.com/goto.jsp?product=100000035&url=%2fst.jsp&tm=y&search =mortgage_text_links_88_h27f6&disc=y&vers=743&s=4056&p=5117 _____ size=2 width="100%" align=center> ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 01:12:50 PM PST US From: "Southern Reflections" Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Maintenance Manual off subject.. help help what is the angle that the firewall is supose to lean back on a601 XL THANKS Joe N101HD ----- Original Message ----- From: "R.P." Sent: Monday, March 12, 2007 8:12 PM Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Maintenance Manual > > Try this page for downloads > http://jabiru.net.au/service%20bulletinbodyFrame-1.htm > > Rick Pitcher > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "robert stone" > To: "Zenith list" > Sent: Monday, March 12, 2007 5:03 PM > Subject: Zenith-List: Maintenance Manual > > > Members, > So far I have written three e-mails to Jabiru asking questions and > have yet to receive an answer. The last one was, is there a maintenance > manuel available for the Jabiru 3300 engine. If anyone out there knows if > a manuel is available and where I could get one I would be greatfull. I > am going to try to contact Jabiru direct in Austraula and see if I can get > some answers. > > Tracy Stone > > > ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 01:34:27 PM PST US From: "Craig Payne" Subject: Zenith-List: Firewall angle (was Maintenance Manual) I think 6B15 (6/2003 version) shows what you need in the upper right corner: 77 degrees from the top longeron with the cabin floor 3 degrees up from level. -- Craig ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 01:39:01 PM PST US From: ROBERT SCEPPA Subject: Re: Zenith-List: wing extentions > Don't fix what ain't broke....do not archive --- Peter Fox wrote: > hello Brian > i"m new to this site > a buddy of mine and his girl helped me set up on > this bbs > any how let me see if i can shed some light on your > query > as far as i can tell from my many years studying > this problem > a (wing extension )is a bit like those spam e-mails > you get > that promise to extend other longeron /spars ,might > i say > in this aspect /ratio its all about the lift you get > from a bigger wing... > your truly > Les Apt > > > On 3/3/07, Brian Bowen > wrote: > > > > > > > Hi, > > I read a few days back , someone was looking for > info on wing extentions > > for the CH701. > > I am also interested but can't find it in the > archive. Any help would be > > appreciated. > > Thanks > > Brian > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Win a trip for four to a concert anywhere in the > world! > > http://www.mobilelivetour.ca/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > It's here! Your new message! Get new email alerts with the free Yahoo! Toolbar. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/toolbar/features/mail/ ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 03:02:48 PM PST US From: "Southern Reflections" Subject: Zenith-List: test test test ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 03:14:01 PM PST US From: "R.P." Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Misdirected emails (do not archive) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Fred Johnson" >Rick, It looks like I did the same thing sorry every one. >Fred > Do not archive Hehe... that's OK Fred, If I hadn't mistakenly posted my message to John to the Zenith list I wouldn't have recieved your response. It all turned out well :) See you guys soon at APV, Rick ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 03:41:03 PM PST US From: "Bill Naumuk" Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Re: Longeron bender Ron+All- I'm not reinventing the wheel, I'm trying to combine the good points of different ways to do something while avoiding the bad. The main thing is, I'm pleased about all the ideas. I'll wind up with a jig that's a combination of what's been done in the past with a smidgen of my own input. do not archive Bill Naumuk HDS Fuse/Corvair Townville, Pa ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ron Lendon" Sent: Monday, March 12, 2007 10:05 PM Subject: Zenith-List: Re: Longeron bender > > Thats the way to do it Bill. Metal has spring back and always needs to be > bend a little farther than the final result. Do as Larry says, sneak up > on it a little at a time. That setup will give you the control you need. > > -------- > Ron Lendon, Clinton Township, MI > Corvair Zodiac XL, ScrapBuilder ;-) > http://www.mykitlog.com/rlendon > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=100205#100205 > > > ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 06:23:17 PM PST US Subject: Zenith-List: XL Center console From: "Tim Juhl" Has anyone got a good picture looking down into the center console with the top off? I need something showing the stick installed and the rudder and elevator cable routing. Email me off list if you can help. Thanks! 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