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1. 12:08 AM - Re: DID I SEE THIS ON YouTUBE! 601 Looping!!!! (Tom Lutz)
2. 04:28 AM - 9 g for HDS (chrisoz@bmail.com.au)
3. 04:48 AM - 701 spars, nose ribs, main ribs, etc. (Monty Graves)
4. 07:10 AM - Cradle to Grave (Scott Thatcher)
5. 08:01 AM - Re: Cradle to Grave (Steve Hulland)
6. 08:14 AM - Re: Re: DID I SEE THIS ON YouTUBE! 601 Looping!!!! (Brandon Tucker)
7. 09:09 AM - landing /taxi light install (john butterfield)
8. 10:11 AM - Scratch built wing update and pictures (TxDave)
9. 12:37 PM - Re: Cradle to Grave--- (Big Gee)
10. 01:22 PM - Re: Scratch built wing update and pictures (Gig Giacona)
11. 01:42 PM - Texan flying (Brandon Tucker)
12. 01:44 PM - Re: Cradle to Grave--- (AVIIDFLYIER@aol.com)
13. 02:50 PM - Re: Cradle to Grave--- (Gig Giacona)
14. 03:52 PM - Re: Cradle to Grave--- (Steve Hulland)
15. 05:07 PM - Re: Re: Cradle to Grave--- (JOHN STARN)
16. 05:31 PM - Re: Apology (Juan Vega)
17. 05:34 PM - Jabiru fuel pressure sensor hookup (Jeff)
18. 05:48 PM - Re: Jabiru fuel pressure sensor hookup (Juan Vega)
19. 06:01 PM - Re: Jabiru fuel pressure sensor hookup (Paul Mulwitz)
20. 06:02 PM - for sale OEM factory nitrided cranks, or heads or engine cases (601corvair)
21. 06:48 PM - Re: Jabiru fuel pressure sensor hookup (n801bh@netzero.com)
22. 07:04 PM - Re: Jabiru fuel pressure sensor hookup (Jeff)
23. 07:39 PM - Re: Jabiru fuel pressure sensor hookup (JOHN STARN)
24. 07:57 PM - Re: Jabiru fuel pressure sensor hookup (R.P.)
25. 08:09 PM - Re: Apology (R.P.)
26. 08:55 PM - Re: Jabiru fuel pressure sensor hookup (Jeff)
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| Subject: | Re: DID I SEE THIS ON YouTUBE! 601 Looping!!!! |
This link is for everyone in this discussion:
See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flaming
On 3/25/07, Steve Hulland <marinegunner@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Craig,
> An to think I and many others gave as much as our lives so that some like
> you can accept that the "governement" must take care of you from cradle to
> grave! Our legal system simply has to many lawyers who need to make money
> for any silly reason. If I wanna loop the plane I built I will. And, I will
> have fun.
> --
> Semper Fi,
> Steven R. Hulland
> CH 600 Taildragger
> Amado, AZ
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Hello Listers,
far from wanting to throw oil onto this particular issue, have you guys
noticed that C.H. rates the HDS one up at 800 lbs with 9 Gs?
9Gs!!!!! That is well in the aerobatic range. Planes have been looped
since before WWI, in boxkites made from bamboo, rag and rotary engines,
and these guys lived to tell the tale. The 601 HD/HDS family is built
like a brick-shithouse like we say here in Australia...
Last not least flying is about freedom, and we all know the rules for
aerobatics from when we learned to do stalls with our instructor: clear of
traffic, away from cloud, NOT over built up areas.
Oh, I haved slipped the surly bonds of earth
And danced the skies on laughther silvered wings;
Sunward I've climbed, and joined the tumbling mirth
Of sun-split clouds,- and done a hundred things
You have not dreamed of - wheeled and soared and swung
High in the sunlit silence. Hov'ring there,
I've chased the shouting wind along, and flung
My eager craft through footless halls of air...
Up, up the long delirious, burning blue
I've topped the windswept heights with easy grace
Where never lark, nor even eagle, flew-
And, while with silent, lifting mind I've trod
The high untrespassed sanctity of space,
Put out my hand, and touched the face of God.
Let us not forget that flying is a passion,
Cheers,
Chris from Oz
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| Subject: | 701 spars, nose ribs, main ribs, etc. |
Due to health reasons, I will have to stop my Zenith CH 701 scratch
building project. Therefore, there are a few items I would like to
sell. Left spar complete zinc chromate along with nose, main ribs,
flap-aleron brackets, and slat brackets. Right spar is partially assembled
and on my workbench table. Same excellent condition. Main Ribs and nose
ribs are attached, as well as back spar pieces. This right wing is
virtually ready to skin. However, no skins are for sale.
These spars & wing pieces would make a great jump-start for a new scratch
builder or someone wanting to experiment with flying without slats, which
has been discussed here recently, for a very reasonable price. These are a
nice quality set of ribs & spars. Spars alone take about 40 hours
man-labor to assemble for each one. Wing pieces are built exactly as in
the Zenith plans with no modifications other than the spar caps are .125
aluminum angle instead of the .093 that Zenith uses. This is an approved
modification. Parts are located in central Missouri.
$1000 takes both wing sets and parts. I have no way of shipping them.
Buyer will have to come pick them up here in Missouri.
Contact me off-list since I am seldom on the computer any longer.
573-369-2973
$1000 green cash, firm. Payment due before pickup and upon your
inspection. This is a fraction of what the wing kit costs from Zenith.
Monty Graves
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> An to think I and many others gave as much as our lives so that some like
> you can accept that the "governement" must take care of you from cradle to
> grave!>
Semper Fi,
Steven R. Hulland
CH 600 Taildragger
Amado, AZ
Steve,
I sure am glad to hear that at least one Marine has elected not to accept
the Government's subsidy in the form of retirement benefits and health care
coverage. You are the exception! Lately, we all hear the whoosh of
government coffers running dry by individuals wanting the government to
"take care of them from cradle to grave."
Scott Thatcher
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| Subject: | Re: Cradle to Grave |
Scott,
I never said that I did not accept the retirement and associated benefits
that I earned while giving 20+ years of my life to the service of this
wonderful country. Fact is, I started as a private and worked my way up to
Captain before retirement. You are correct, I did not contribute anything
but sweat to my retirement - along with vastly reduced pay. At retirement I
was the equivalent to "Faculty Chief" managing an approach control and the
operations of a mid-sized joint use airport. I made far less than civilians
make in private industry doing the same work. Anyway, if you think what I
get in retirement is "from cradle to grave" living, you have a lot to learn.
All that does not change my opinion of to much government interference in
our lives - especially from the FAA. I hope that you are fighting their
desire to torpedo GA with user fees, increased class B airspace's, useless
ADIZ in large areas of the country and the rest. Are you even a US citizen?
Have a great day.
--
Semper Fi,
Steven R. Hulland
CH 600 Taildragger
Amado, AZ
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| Subject: | RE: RE: DID I SEE THIS ON YouTUBE! 601 Looping!!!! |
>>I've lost patience with ignorance and recklessness.
>>CS
I was happy to give up, but several off list messages made me realize that
your view is not the majority. Recklessness is subjective. Did you break
the speed limit when you went to work this morning... I bet you did. Some people
might consider that reckless.
It is becoming increasingly obvious that the only ignorance here is on your
part. I use the ignorant term for it's true meaning, not to be flippant.
I think you need spend a little time studying before throwing stones. Several
people have chimed in here with information indicating that it is perfectly
legal to do loops, if the operator's manual allows. Don't state your opinion
here as fact. Actually do the research... Read Brian's post. The airworthiness
certificate says nothing about limitations on aerobatics. The operator's
manual does... Mine does... So I can, and I will fly my aircraft responsibly,
safely, and in accordance with FAA regulations. We are now back to square one.
Your analogies are not lost on me. I get it. I would have gotten them
when I was enlisted. Being an officer has nothing to do with it. I have a file
in my office with newspaper clippings from the deaths of 7 friends of mine,
who all died in military aircraft. With the exception of 2, they were all doing
exactly what the military orders and regulations directed / allowed. I have
narrowly avoided a mid air collision doing exactly what I was supposed to be
doing. There was no arrogance involved beyond the arrogance required to simply
strap on the Hornet.
I think information provided by others on the list show that doing this
is perfectly legal. That issue is dead as far as I am concerned. Let's move
on from what is legal, and get to what is safe. If you need convincing that this
is not unsafe, come down to San Diego. I will take you up in the Texan, and
do a 2 G loop. You will see that a loop is a joke in aerobatic terms. I am
certain that everyone on the list has been more aggressive in a Cessna in spin
recovery than anything that can happen in a properly executed loop.
Brandon
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| Subject: | landing /taxi light install |
hi list
i have finished the lighting assembley and have one
word of advise. When you lay out the parts, back
plate and holding plates, make sure you put them
together in the proper order and clamp all to the back
piece. then drill them together to insure proper
alignment. mark each piece and proceed. had i done
this, i would have saved many hours. i suppose that
most of you would do this automatically, but for those
like me, a 2x4 to the head helps.
also, i was at my eaa chapter (after taking the fuse
there to assemble the whole machine) one of the
members was looking at my exterior rivets and
suggested that i get inside and hit the back of the
rivet head. he said it would pop out the small
indentation caused when i set the rivits. haven't
tried it yet, but suppose it's good advise.
john butterfield
601XL, corvair
torrance, ca
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| Subject: | Scratch built wing update and pictures |
I am nearly finished with my first wing. It has taken longer than I expected to
reach this point. However, a lot of that time was spent correcting my dumb mistakes.
I figure the second wing will take half the time to complete. These pictures
help illustrate my 3 piece LE skin concept.
Dave Clay
Temple, TX
601XL from plans
http://www.daves601xl.com
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| Subject: | Re: Cradle to Grave--- |
Scott-- I tried staying out of this but !!!!!!! I think your are taking this in
a direction which is very inapproperiate.
I served 20 years USAF and am damn proud of it.
Brandon, Steve, I salute you !!!!!!!!
Brandon, does the offer you made in another letter to take (?) up in a Texan
and do a loop, apply to an "old USAF enlisted, retired jet aircraft mechanic"
??
Fritz do not archive
Scott Thatcher <s_thatcher@bellsouth.net> wrote:
> An to think I and many others gave as much as our lives so that some like
> you can accept that the "governement" must take care of you from cradle to
> grave!>
Semper Fi,
Steven R. Hulland
CH 600 Taildragger
Amado, AZ
Steve,
I sure am glad to hear that at least one Marine has elected not to accept
the Government's subsidy in the form of retirement benefits and health care
coverage. You are the exception! Lately, we all hear the whoosh of
government coffers running dry by individuals wanting the government to
"take care of them from cradle to grave."
Scott Thatcher
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| Subject: | Re: Scratch built wing update and pictures |
I do like your 3 peice leading edge. If I had it to do over again I'd do the same.
I'd also consider what it would take to make that a wet wing, fuel tank.
--------
W.R. "Gig" Giacona
601XL Under Construction
See my progress at www.peoamerica.net/N601WR
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Fritz,
The offer applies to anyone on the list. You can choose from one of 3 1920's
Travel Air biplanes, a 1941 SNJ-4 (Texan), a 601, or a dogfight in a Varga
Kachina. The offer to Chris was for free, but everyone else would be at my
rental cost (much cheaper than booking the flight). See:
http://barnstorming.com/
-We only do loops in the Texan - not the biplanes or Varga's.
R/
Brandon
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| Subject: | Re: Cradle to Grave--- |
It appears that this forum will go the way of most others. DOWN THE
TUBES................
I THOUGHT WE WERE BUILDING AIRPLANES
Tom Knox, DMD
Tarboro, NC CH-701 tail feathers and left bwing
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| Subject: | Re: Cradle to Grave--- |
Tom, it will only happen if we let it. These little flare-ups happen in any group
of people discussing anything. The damage happens when good people leave because
of them.
To the rest of you take it off list.
DO NOT ARCHIVE
AVIIDFLYIER(at)aol.com wrote:
> It appears that this forum will go the way of most others. DOWN THE TUBES................
>
> I THOUGHT WE WERE BUILDING AIRPLANES
>
>
> Tom Knox, DMD
> Tarboro, NC CH-701 tail feathers and left bwing
>
>
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W.R. "Gig" Giacona
601XL Under Construction
See my progress at www.peoamerica.net/N601WR
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| Subject: | Re: Cradle to Grave--- |
Tom,
Do Not Archive,
We are building airplanes. Once in a while, this forum, like most others
goes off on a tangent. Kinda a human thing. Not to worry, it will be back to
the building in a short while.*
*
--
Semper Fi,
Steven R. Hulland
CH 600 Taildragger
Amado, AZ
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| Subject: | Re: Cradle to Grave--- |
Sorry but after more than a dozen years of being on Matt's list(s) and
conversing with other builders from around the World (notice I did not say
any one list), I must disagree. I think the short sighted view that the
list(s) are ONLY about putting tab "A" into slot "B", "Which primer should I
use ?", or gripe about the plans is in error.
Re-read Matt's guidelines (they come around once a month) and you'll find
that the list(s) are also to foster & create "camaraderie" amongst us ALL.
The interests & attitudes of your airplane may fit within your City, State
or Region but others from countries from around the World may a different
view to share. I have friends that I have never met face to face and may
others that I have met at fly-ins (like OSH) who "know" me from the list(s).
You will miss a lot if you dismiss everything that does not help you build
YOUR airplane.
When I reach the end of my life I will leave behind two or three homebuilts
but thousands of friends from around the World. Don't like this or other
posts...fine...that's why there is a "Delete" button.
No need to keep this post, I've been saying the same thing for years....Do
Not Archive KABONG HRII N561FS
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gig Giacona" <wr.giacona@suddenlink.net>
Sent: Monday, March 26, 2007 2:49 PM
Subject: Zenith-List: Re: Cradle to Grave---
> <wr.giacona@suddenlink.net>
>
> Tom, it will only happen if we let it. These little flare-ups happen in
> any group of people discussing anything. The damage happens when good
> people leave because of them.
>
> To the rest of you take it off list.
>
> DO NOT ARCHIVE
>
> AVIIDFLYIER(at)aol.com wrote:
>> It appears that this forum will go the way of most others. DOWN THE
>> TUBES................
>>
>> I THOUGHT WE WERE BUILDING AIRPLANES
>>
>> Tom Knox, DMD
>> Tarboro, NC CH-701 tail feathers and left bwing
>
> --------
> W.R. "Gig" Giacona
> 601XL Under Construction
> See my progress at www.peoamerica.net/N601WR
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=103078#103078
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Rick,
you can use 601 ELSAs for hire (4profit) up to the end of 2008. New LSA rules
allow for it.
JUan
-----Original Message-----
>From: "R.P." <zodie@adelphia.net>
>Sent: Mar 25, 2007 11:11 PM
>To: zenith-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Apology
>
>
>Smitty, have you done the Phase One testing of your plane yet?
>If you're gonna do any areobatics you'll have to do them during Phase One
>and enter them in the aircraft logbook.
>
>BTW, you might have to change your email address when you get your plane
>finished, can't use experimentals 4profit ;)
>
>Rick Pitcher
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "C Smith" <pilot4profit@sbcglobal.net>
>To: <zenith-list@matronics.com>
>Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2007 7:50 PM
>Subject: RE: Zenith-List: Apology
>
>
>Please see AC 20-27F certification and operation of amateur built aircraft:
>
>11. FAA INSPECTION OF AN AMATEUR-BUILT AIRCRAFT.
>a. General Information About What We Do and Do Not Do For Inspections.
>(1) We inspect your aircraft for general airworthiness when you submit it
>for airworthiness
>certification. We will not inspect it before you register it or during
>construction. However, we must
>inspect it before we issue your airworthiness certificate. Standard FAA
>policy is to issue one
>airworthiness certificate for the aircraft. In some cases, we may issue a
>limited duration airworthiness
>certificate, which would be valid only for flight testing (Phase I) the
>aircraft. When we inspect it, it
>should be ready to fly, except for having the cowlings, fairings, and panels
>open for inspection.
>(2) The FAA inspector cannot be involved in the building process and will
>not perform any
>progressive or in-process inspections during the building process. You
>should ask a knowledgeable
>person (for example, an EAA Technical Counselor) to conduct in-process
>inspections. You should
>record any such inspections in the aircraft logbook.
>(3) We consider FAA designated airworthiness representatives (DARs) the
>primary resource
>for the certification of amateur-built aircraft. You may contact your local
>FAA office to locate an
>authorized DAR. DARs are authorized to charge a fee for their services,
>which they set. We do not
>govern this fee.
>b. Visual Inspection. The FAA inspector will conduct an onsite, visual,
>general airworthiness
>certification inspection of the aircraft, including reviewing the
>information discussed in
>paragraphs 11c(1) and (2), before issuing a special airworthiness
>certificate with the appropriate
>operating limitations. With your special airworthiness certificate and
>operating limitations, you will be
>able to show compliance with 14 CFR part 91, General Operating and Flight
>Rules, 91.319(b). The
>FAA will perform the visual inspection as shown in figure 2, FAA Visual
>Inspection of an
>Amateur-Built Aircraft.
>
>And
>
>12. ISSUING AN AIRWORTHINESS CERTIFICATE FOR AN AMATEUR-BUILT
>AIRCRAFT.
>a. Issuance of a Special Airworthiness Certificate and Operating
>Limitations.
>(1) In addition to 14 CFR requirements, the guidelines you use to operate
>and maintain your
>aircraft are included in your operating limitations, which become part of
>the special airworthiness
>certificate. We may impose additional limitations to those listed in FAA
>Order 8130.2, Airworthiness
>Certification of Aircraft and Related Products, if necessary for safety.
>References in this AC to
>"Phase I" refer to those operating limitations that apply to the aircraft
>while it's undergoing initial
>flight tests. "Phase II" refers to those operating limitations that apply
>after you complete the initial
>flight tests. Phase I and Phase II operating limitations are provided in
>Order 8130.2. The FAA inspector
>will issue the special airworthiness certificate, but its validity will be
>subject to compliance with its
>operating limitations. Those limitations will provide for operation in an
>assigned flight test area for a
>certain number of hours (Phase I) before the second part (Phase II) of the
>limitations becomes effective,
>which releases the aircraft from the flight test area.
>(2) After we inspect your aircraft and determine it is in a condition for
>safe operation, we will
>issue FAA Form 8130-7, Special Airworthiness Certificate, with the
>appropriate operating limitations in
>accordance with Order 8130.2. Typically, we issue one airworthiness
>certificate per aircraft.
>(3) In accordance with 91.203(b), you must display the airworthiness
>certificate and attached
>operating limitations at the cabin or cockpit entrance so that it is legible
>to passengers or crew while the
>aircraft is being operated. The pilot must conduct all flights under the
>operating limitations and part 91.
>Details concerning flight test areas are discussed in paragraph 13.
>
>
>And
>
>13. PHASE I FLIGHT TESTING.
>a. Flight Tests. Section 91.319(b) requires you to show your aircraft is
>controllable at all its
>normal speeds during all the maneuvers you might expect to execute.
>
>
>That means that you must document and demonstrate in the testing phase the
>aircraft with all the maneuvers you intend to operate the aircraft.
>
>And it states further
>
>AC 20-27F 9/26/2003
>14
>(3) Operating Limitations. When we issue an unlimited duration special
>airworthiness
>certificate, the operating limitations may be prescribed under the
>guidelines in Order 8130.2. The
>purpose of the operating limitations is for you to show and maintain
>compliance with 91.319. The
>operating limitations include a requirement for you to endorse the aircraft
>maintenance record (logbook)
>with a statement certifying the aircraft has been shown to comply with that
>section. The limitations may
>vary for some aircraft, and we may issue additional limitations in unusual
>conditions in the interest of
>safety. We will review the limitations with you to make sure you thoroughly
>understand each one.
>14. CONTINUING TO OPERATE YOUR AMATEUR-BUILT AIRCRAFT.
>a. After you complete all required flight tests, hours, and maneuvers, the
>aircraft is considered safe
>for continued flight. To continue operating your aircraft, you must follow
>the operating limitations
>issued with the aircraft airworthiness certificate.
>b. You may not operate your aircraft without the airworthiness certificate
>and operating limitations
>aboard. If you lose the operating limitations or they are mutilated or no
>longer legible, contact your
>local FAA office for guidance or contact AFS-750 (see appendix 7 for the
>address) to obtain a copy of
>the operating limitations. If you cannot get a copy, ask your local FAA
>office to issue a replacement
>FAA Form 8130-7 and operating limitations. If you can document that the
>aircraft has completed the
>flight test requirements (through logbook entries), we may issue new
>operating limitations without initial
>flight test operating limitations.
>
>
>And again
>
>b. Operating Limitations.
>(1) The operating limitations require that you operate the aircraft under
>the applicable air traffic
>control and general operating rules of part 91. If you plan to operate under
>instrument flight rules (IFR),
>pay particular attention to the applicable requirements in part 91.
>(2) The operating limitations will authorize all operations to be conducted
>(visual flight rules,
>day/night, and IFR). These operating limitations may state that the
>instruments and equipment
>mandated by 91.205(b), (c), and/or (d), Powered civil aircraft with
>standard category
>U.S. airworthiness certificates: Instrument and equipment requirements, must
>be installed and operable.
>In addition, these operating limitations may state flight test areas as
>defined in 91.305.
>
>Now I'm sure there will be some argument as to what these all mean, I think
>they mean what they say. Unless the maneuvers were demonstrated during
>testing and are specifically permitted by the operating limitations a
>standard category is assumed.
>What I will do is call my local FSDO, and get the word from the chief
>enforcement officer Gary Knaggs. I will report from the horses mouth.
>CS
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
>[mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bryan Martin
>Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2007 9:30 PM
>To: zenith-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Apology
>
>--> <bryanmmartin@comcast.net>
>
>The normal, utility and aerobatic categories do NOT apply to the
>Experimental - Amateur Built airworthiness certificate, they only apply to
>the standard airworthiness certificate. The builder of an E- AB aircraft is
>the manufacturer, he decides what the operating limitations are, not the kit
>manufacturer. The operating limitations are developed during the phase I
>testing owner / test pilot. The only limitation on an E-AB airworthiness
>certificate is the statement that the airplane is restricted to day VFR
>unless properly equipped according to the equipment required article of the
>FARs. There are NO RESTRICTIONS on what type of maneuvers may be performed
>in an E-AB.
>That is the point that you don't seem to be getting here.
>
>On Mar 25, 2007, at 8:32 PM, C Smith wrote:
>
>> <pilot4profit@sbcglobal.net>
>>
>> What does your airworthiness certificate say?
>>
>> It is clear you can't get the point.
>> It relates to the great lengths that the FAA will go to stop
>> violations of it's policies. It is an example in point, a point of
>> relative importance.
>> Specifically what does your airworthiness certificate say? It's called
>> operating limitations. What does it say? Normal, utility, or
>> aerobatic? THAT IS YOUR LIMITATION! IT'S YOUR AIRWORTHINESS
>> CERTIFICATE!
>> What does free speech have to do with the FAA's charter to regulate
>> all forms of aviation? NOTHING! Your pilots certificate is not subject
>> to the protections of criminal law. It is an administrative hearing,
>> not a trial.
>> When you are cited, you can talk to an attorney all you want, but
>> there is no jury, no trial, just an administrative board staffed by
>> the FAA.
>
>
>--
>Bryan Martin
>N61BM, CH 601 XL,
>RAM Subaru, Stratus redrive.
>do not archive.
>
>
>--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>
>4:36 PM
>
>
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| Subject: | Jabiru fuel pressure sensor hookup |
It is amazing how little things can stop me cold. I'm installing the Dynon
Engine Management System (EMS) in my 601 with a Jabiru 3300A (solid
lifters). I'm installing the fuel flow sensor. The Dynon sensor has a 1/8
inch NPT male thread on it. I am using the Zenith supplied 1/4 Inch inside
diameter ( I know about using 3/8ths) fuel hose. Has anyone found a fitting
or set of fittings that has a female 1/8th NPT on one end and a hose barb on
the other? Dynon has not replied so far. Thanks .
Jeff Davidson
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| Subject: | Re: Jabiru fuel pressure sensor hookup |
Jeff,
i have the same setup on the sensor, I recommend you go online to Amazon pipes
and fittings, you can order the npt fittings there.
juan
-----Original Message-----
>From: Jeff <jeffrey_davidson@earthlink.net>
>Sent: Mar 26, 2007 8:34 PM
>To: zenith-list@matronics.com, jabiruengine-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Zenith-List: Jabiru fuel pressure sensor hookup
>
>It is amazing how little things can stop me cold. I'm installing the Dynon
>Engine Management System (EMS) in my 601 with a Jabiru 3300A (solid
>lifters). I'm installing the fuel flow sensor. The Dynon sensor has a 1/8
>inch NPT male thread on it. I am using the Zenith supplied 1/4 Inch inside
>diameter ( I know about using 3/8ths) fuel hose. Has anyone found a fitting
>or set of fittings that has a female 1/8th NPT on one end and a hose barb on
>the other? Dynon has not replied so far. Thanks .
>
>Jeff Davidson
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Jabiru fuel pressure sensor hookup |
Hi Jeff,
You can get such a fitting at nearly any hardware
store. I used a couple of them made from brass for my LRI.
Paul
XL fuselage
At 04:34 PM 3/26/2007, you wrote:
>Has anyone found a fitting or set of fittings
>that has a female 1/8th NPT on one end and a
>hose barb on the other? Dynon has not replied so far. Thanks =85
>
>Jeff Davidson
>
>
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32013 NE Dial Road
Camas, WA 98607
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| Subject: | Re: Jabiru fuel pressure sensor hookup |
Google Earls fittings, they have EVERYTHING... The worst you have to do
is get a 1/8" male fitting and add a 1/8 to 1/8 female coupler.
do not archive
Ben Haas
N801BH
www.haaspowerair.com
-- Juan Vega <amyvega2005@earthlink.net> wrote:
Jeff,
i have the same setup on the sensor, I recommend you go online to Amazo
n pipes and fittings, you can order the npt fittings there.
juan
-----Original Message-----
>From: Jeff <jeffrey_davidson@earthlink.net>
>Sent: Mar 26, 2007 8:34 PM
>To: zenith-list@matronics.com, jabiruengine-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Zenith-List: Jabiru fuel pressure sensor hookup
>
>It is amazing how little things can stop me cold. I'm installing the D
ynon
>Engine Management System (EMS) in my 601 with a Jabiru 3300A (solid
>lifters). I'm installing the fuel flow sensor. The Dynon sensor has a
1/8
>inch NPT male thread on it. I am using the Zenith supplied 1/4 Inch in
side
>diameter ( I know about using 3/8ths) fuel hose. Has anyone found a fi
tting
>or set of fittings that has a female 1/8th NPT on one end and a hose ba
rb on
>the other? Dynon has not replied so far. Thanks .
>
>Jeff Davidson
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Jabiru fuel pressure sensor hookup |
Thanks Ben. I found a 1/8th AN910 coupling that should work with a left
over 1/8th to barb fitting from my fuel system installation.
Jeff
_____
From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
n801bh@netzero.com
Sent: Monday, March 26, 2007 9:46 PM
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Jabiru fuel pressure sensor hookup
Google Earls fittings, they have EVERYTHING... The worst you have to do is
get a 1/8" male fitting and add a 1/8 to 1/8 female coupler.
do not archive
Ben Haas
N801BH
www.haaspowerair.com
-- Juan Vega <amyvega2005@earthlink.net> wrote:
Jeff,
i have the same setup on the sensor, I recommend you go online to Amazon
pipes and fittings, you can order the npt fittings there.
juan
-----Original Message-----
>From: Jeff <jeffrey_davidson@earthlink.net>
>Sent: Mar 26, 2007 8:34 PM
>To: zenith-list@matronics.com, jabiruengine-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Zenith-List: Jabiru fuel pressure sensor hookup
>
>It is amazing how little things can stop me cold. I'm installing the Dynon
>Engine Management System (EMS) in my 601 with a Jabiru 3300A (solid
>lifters). I'm installing the fuel flow sensor. The Dynon sensor has a 1/8
>inch NPT male thread on it. I am using the Zenith supplied 1/4 Inch inside
>diameter ( I know about using 3/8ths) fuel hose. Has anyone found a
fitting
>or set of fittings that has a female 1/8th NPT on one end and a hose barb
on
>the other? Dynon has not replied so far. Thanks .
>
>Jeff Davidson
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Jabiru fuel pressure sensor hookup |
Two items in the AirCraftSpruce FREE catalog www.aircraftspruce.com might b
e what you're looking for. Page #113 AN840 hose nipple in brass or aluminum
OR page #118 Weatherhead barb-tite. KABONG There are "plastic" adaptors.
.but not for fuel lines.
HRII N561FS
IF you think this info is worth saving. Hit reply, delete this: Do Not Arch
ive and hit send.
----- Original Message -----
From: Jeff
To: zenith-list@matronics.com ; jabiruengine-list@matronics.com
Sent: Monday, March 26, 2007 5:34 PM
Subject: Zenith-List: Jabiru fuel pressure sensor hookup
It is amazing how little things can stop me cold. I'm installing the Dyn
on Engine Management System (EMS) in my 601 with a Jabiru 3300A (solid lift
ers). I'm installing the fuel flow sensor. The Dynon sensor has a 1/8 inc
h NPT male thread on it. I am using the Zenith supplied 1/4 Inch inside di
ameter ( I know about using 3/8ths) fuel hose. Has anyone found a fitting
or set of fittings that has a female 1/8th NPT on one end and a hose barb o
n the other? Dynon has not replied so far. Thanks .
Jeff Davidson
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| Subject: | Re: Jabiru fuel pressure sensor hookup |
NAPA has an aircraft supply store near you. Just enter your zip code at
their website
www.napaonline.com
Rick
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jeff " <jeffrey_davidson@earthlink.net>
Sent: Monday, March 26, 2007 5:34 PM
Subject: Zenith-List: Jabiru fuel pressure sensor hookup
> It is amazing how little things can stop me cold. I'm installing the
> Dynon
> Engine Management System (EMS) in my 601 with a Jabiru 3300A (solid
> lifters). I'm installing the fuel flow sensor. The Dynon sensor has a
> 1/8
> inch NPT male thread on it. I am using the Zenith supplied 1/4 Inch
> inside
> diameter ( I know about using 3/8ths) fuel hose. Has anyone found a
> fitting
> or set of fittings that has a female 1/8th NPT on one end and a hose barb
> on
> the other? Dynon has not replied so far. Thanks .
>
> Jeff Davidson
>
>
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11:07 AM
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Juan Vega" <amyvega2005@earthlink.net>
Sent: Monday, March 26, 2007 5:30 PM
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Apology
>
> Rick,
> you can use 601 ELSAs for hire (4profit) up to the end of 2008. New LSA
> rules allow for it.
> JUan
Hey, that's right. I forgot about the ELSA.
Gotta love that new Sport Pilot and Light Sport Aircraft rule.
Rick
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| Subject: | RE: Jabiru fuel pressure sensor hookup |
Thanks to all that responded.
Jeff Davidson
Do not archive
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