Today's Message Index:
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1. 05:03 AM - Re: Workshop Space / Shed Construction (rgeese)
2. 05:38 AM - Info from XL TD builders (Ricardo Volkweis Lopes)
3. 05:41 AM - Canopy cleaning (robert stone)
4. 06:30 AM - CH-801 POH (j2fortune@aol.com)
5. 07:05 AM - Re: Canopy cleaning (Bryan Martin)
6. 07:15 AM - Re: Canopy cleaning (LarryMcFarland)
7. 07:15 AM - Re: CH-801 POH / tail assembly for sale (newbluecrowns@aol.com)
8. 07:21 AM - Re: CH-801 POH / tail assembly for sale (j2fortune@aol.com)
9. 07:24 AM - 601xl gear bending (wade jones)
10. 08:48 AM - Re: Canopy cleaning (Tim Juhl)
11. 09:27 AM - Re: 601xl gear bending (Herbert Heaton)
12. 09:33 AM - Re: Canopy cleaning (robert stone)
13. 09:35 AM - Re: Canopy cleaning (robert stone)
14. 10:28 AM - Re: Canopy cleaning (LarryMcFarland)
15. 11:23 AM - Re: Canopy cleaning (Juan Vega)
16. 11:43 AM - Re: Re: NACA scoops (Juan Vega)
17. 12:29 PM - Re: Canopy cleaning (Bryan Martin)
18. 02:24 PM - NACA vents and other goodies (Jeff Small)
19. 02:28 PM - Re: canopy cleaning (Jeff Small)
20. 05:48 PM - flying or fairly complete 601XL projects near Pensacola FL? (13brv3)
21. 05:54 PM - Re: flying or fairly complete 601XL projects near Pensacola FL? (Aaron Gustafson)
22. 05:57 PM - Ram Subaru Conversions...Good? or Bad? (darinh)
23. 06:15 PM - Re: flying or fairly complete 601XL projects near Pensacola FL? (13brv3)
24. 06:27 PM - Re: Re: flying or fairly complete 601XL projects near Pensacola FL? (Aaron Gustafson)
25. 06:32 PM - Re: Re: flying or fairly complete 601XL projects near Pensacola FL? (ZodieRocket)
26. 06:51 PM - Fuel Filler Neck Woes (Tim Juhl)
27. 07:10 PM - Re: Fuel Filler Neck Woes (n787xl@aol.com)
28. 07:25 PM - Re: flying or fairly complete 601XL projects near Pensacola FL? (13brv3)
29. 07:31 PM - Re: Ram Subaru Conversions...Good? or Bad? (Southern Reflections)
30. 09:16 PM - Re: CH-801 POH (Craig Payne)
31. 09:16 PM - Re: flying or fairly complete 601XL projects near Pensacola FL? (Craig Payne)
32. 09:16 PM - Re: flying or fairly complete 601XL projects near Pensacola FL? (Craig Payne)
33. 11:35 PM - Official Zenith-List FAQ (Frequently Asked Questions) (Matt Dralle)
34. 11:39 PM - Official Zenith-List Usage Guidelines (Matt Dralle)
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Subject: | Re: Workshop Space / Shed Construction |
I'm, building my 601XL in a self-built (from plans) 12' by 20' wooden barn with
an 8' ceiling an loft. I certainly wouldn't want to go any smaller than that.
Everything was completed in the barn and moved into my garage after completion.
The fuselage is still in the barn, but I am outgrowing it. I won't be able
to install the engine, main gear, or rudder there. I can't complete the canopy
installation either because there isn't enough headroom for the tilt. Soon I
will be trading spaces with everything stored in the garage.
I have a couple hundred photos at this site:
http://rgeese.spaces.live.com/default.aspx?_c01_blogpart=myspace&_c02_owner=1&_c=blogpart
You may be able to get an idea of the space.
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Subject: | Info from XL TD builders |
Hello to all,
I am building Zodiac XL TD configuration, ANAC here in Brazil ask me for three
view drawings to register the project. I am looking for linear measure
between tail-wheel and main gear wheels.
Sorry, my english is weak. Attached drawings can show better what I want.
Thanks!
Zodiac 601 XL/TD
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Ricardo Volkweis Lopes
http://portal.ucpel.tche.br/py3vhq
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Members,
What is the best product any of you know of to clean a Plexiglas
canopy.
Tracy Stone
ZodiacXL
Harker Heights, Tx
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I'm near completion of my CH-801 kit, N63VK and would greatly appreciate any means
to avoid reinventing a POH.
Thank you in advance for any leg up on this stage of the project. I have PDF versions
of various POH's for other aircraft. Would be very apprecative of a editable
starting point, best if 801 specific .
Jeff
St. Petersburg, FL
Land, sea, rotorcraft pilot
fyi
engine: Superior XP360
amphibian: Czech floats
photos available
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Subject: | Re: Canopy cleaning |
I've been using Novus #1 with very good results.
On Apr 1, 2007, at 8:40 AM, robert stone wrote:
> Members,
> What is the best product any of you know of to clean a
> Plexiglas canopy.
>
--
Bryan Martin
N61BM, CH 601 XL,
RAM Subaru, Stratus redrive.
do not archive.
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Subject: | Re: Canopy cleaning |
Robert,
I've been using a product called Clear View in a spray can and
microfiber towels to polish and
clean the canopy. It works great and the microfiber towels can be
bought at any local Farm & Fleet
or automotive store. Just water with microfiber towels works well for
removing bugs too.
Larry McFarland 601HDS at www.macsmachine.com
do not archive
robert stone wrote:
> Members,
> What is the best product any of you know of to clean a Plexiglas
> canopy.
>
> Tracy Stone
> ZodiacXL
> Harker Heights, Tx
> *
>
>
> *
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Subject: | Re: CH-801 POH / tail assembly for sale |
Jeff, I have an empennage for sale. Do you know anyone that would be interested?
It is 90% assembled.
-----Original Message-----
From: j2fortune@aol.com
Sent: Sun, 1 Apr 2007 7:28 AM
Subject: Zenith-List: CH-801 POH
I'm near completion of my CH-801 kit, N63VK and would greatly appreciate any means
to avoid reinventing a POH.
Thank you in advance for any leg up on this stage of the project. I have PDF versions
of various POH's for other aircraft. Would be very apprecative of a editable
starting point, best if 801 specific .
Jeff
St. Petersburg, FL
Land, sea, rotorcraft pilot
fyi
engine: Superior XP360
amphibian: Czech floats
photos available
________________________________________________________________________
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Subject: | Re: CH-801 POH / tail assembly for sale |
sorry no
-----Original Message-----
From: newbluecrowns@aol.com
Sent: Sun, 1 Apr 2007 10:14 AM
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: CH-801 POH / tail assembly for sale
Jeff, I have an empennage for sale. Do you know anyone that would be interested?
It is 90% assembled.
-----Original Message-----
From: j2fortune@aol.com
Sent: Sun, 1 Apr 2007 7:28 AM
Subject: Zenith-List: CH-801 POH
I'm near completion of my CH-801 kit, N63VK and would greatly appreciate any means
to avoid reinventing a POH.
Thank you in advance for any leg up on this stage of the project. I have PDF versions
of various POH's for other aircraft. Would be very apprecative of a editable
starting point, best if 801 specific .
Jeff
St. Petersburg, FL
Land, sea, rotorcraft pilot
fyi
engine: Superior XP360
amphibian: Czech floats
photos available
________________________________________________________________________
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Subject: | 601xl gear bending |
Hello group ,has any of the 601XL scratch builders on this site bent
their landing gear .If so ,is it a process they would do again or would
they buy it from a source .I have priced the blank piece from Trident
,they quoted a price of $213.00 .The price from ZAC is $570.00 for the
finished product .Is this something that can be done from home by
welding up a fixture and using hydraulic pressure . Thanks Wade Jones
South Texas
601XL plans building
Cont. 0200
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Subject: | Re: Canopy cleaning |
Tracy,
Over the years I've tried many products and finally settled on a cleaner/polish from LP Aero http://www.lpaero.com/accessories.html
There are many good products out there which would work just as well, but often
the other aspects of window cleaning are ignored.
You must remember that the plastic of the canopy will easily scratch.... using
paper towels and sponges is often the equivalent of going at it with fine sandpaper.
If you ever did a microscopic exam of a paper towel you would find small
particles of grit embedded in it. There are some new ones specially made for
cleaning plastic (DuPont Sontara AC Window Wipes) but I haven't tried them
yet.
The procedure I recommend is to use plenty of preferably warm water (with a drop of dish soap added to break surface tension) work the bugs off with your bare fingers and wipe with a piece of clean 100% cotton flannel. You can then use the damp cloth to apply the polish and then wipe it off with a dry one. I had my wife buy a couple of yards of flannel and cut it into 1 foot squares which I store in a big ziplock bag. You will never eliminate all scratches but you can slow down their accumulation. LP Aero also has the full text of their maintenance instructions at http://www.lpaero.com/CAREINS.pdf
Good luck!
Tim Juhl
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DO NOT ARCHIVE
______________
CFII
Champ L16A flying
Zodiac XL - Jabiru 3300A
Working on wings
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Subject: | 601xl gear bending |
Wade,
I have contemplated the same thing. I calculated the minimum pressure
required to bend the 3/4" x 8" 6061-T6 would be about 12 ton. The hydraulic
press brake I can use at work is only 9 ton so I've been looking for an
alternative solution.
I received a quote from Zenith for part #6G3-1 at $720. If you can get it
for $570, grab it. The complete gear assembly...Spring Gear, Nose Wheel,
Main Wheels, Brakes, Tires, Tubes, Master Cylinders came to $2,000.
Consider if you make a bend not quite perpendicular to the edge, you have
just scraped $213 of aluminum you can't repair. I think I'll get another
quote from Zenith and if they say $570, I'll buy it and save myself a lot of
work and frustration.
Herb
>From: "wade jones" <wjones@brazoriainet.com>
>To: <zenith-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: Zenith-List: 601xl gear bending
>Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2007 09:23:49 -0500
>
>Hello group ,has any of the 601XL scratch builders on this site bent their
>landing gear .If so ,is it a process they would do again or would they buy
>it from a source .I have priced the blank piece from Trident ,they quoted a
>price of $213.00 .The price from ZAC is $570.00 for the finished product
>.Is this something that can be done from home by welding up a fixture and
>using hydraulic pressure . Thanks Wade Jones South Texas
>601XL plans building
>Cont. 0200
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Subject: | Re: Canopy cleaning |
Bryan,
Thanks for the reply, but you did not tell me where I can get the
stuff??
Tracy
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bryan Martin" <bryanmmartin@comcast.net>
Sent: Sunday, April 01, 2007 9:05 AM
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Canopy cleaning
>
> I've been using Novus #1 with very good results.
>
> On Apr 1, 2007, at 8:40 AM, robert stone wrote:
>
>> Members,
>> What is the best product any of you know of to clean a Plexiglas
>> canopy.
>>
>
>
> --
> Bryan Martin
> N61BM, CH 601 XL,
> RAM Subaru, Stratus redrive.
> do not archive.
>
>
>
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Subject: | Re: Canopy cleaning |
Larry,
Thanks for the reply but like Bryan who also replied with a sugestion
as to what to use, you did not tell me where I can get it.
Tracy
----- Original Message -----
From: "LarryMcFarland" <larry@macsmachine.com>
Sent: Sunday, April 01, 2007 9:14 AM
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Canopy cleaning
>
> Robert,
> I've been using a product called Clear View in a spray can and microfiber
> towels to polish and
> clean the canopy. It works great and the microfiber towels can be bought
> at any local Farm & Fleet
> or automotive store. Just water with microfiber towels works well for
> removing bugs too.
>
> Larry McFarland 601HDS at www.macsmachine.com
> do not archive
>
>
> robert stone wrote:
>> Members,
>> What is the best product any of you know of to clean a Plexiglas
>> canopy.
>> Tracy Stone
>> ZodiacXL
>> Harker Heights, Tx
>> *
>>
>>
>> *
>
>
>
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Subject: | Re: Canopy cleaning |
Robert,
The Clear View can be ordered from Aircraft Spruce and it's as good as
anything, but
microfiber cloth is the more important choice because it's used to
polish anything acrylic
and it doesn't scratch at all. Slightly more cost, but they are also
washable.
Larry
Do not archive
robert stone wrote:
>
> Larry,
> Thanks for the reply but like Bryan who also replied with a
> sugestion as to what to use, you did not tell me where I can get it.
>
> Tracy
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "LarryMcFarland"
> <larry@macsmachine.com>
> To: <zenith-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Sunday, April 01, 2007 9:14 AM
> Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Canopy cleaning
>
>
>> <larry@macsmachine.com>
>>
>> Robert,
>> I've been using a product called Clear View in a spray can and
>> microfiber towels to polish and
>> clean the canopy. It works great and the microfiber towels can be
>> bought at any local Farm & Fleet
>> or automotive store. Just water with microfiber towels works well
>> for removing bugs too.
>>
>> Larry McFarland 601HDS at www.macsmachine.com
>> do not archive
>>
>>
>> robert stone wrote:
>>> Members,
>>> What is the best product any of you know of to clean a
>>> Plexiglas canopy.
>>> Tracy Stone
>>> ZodiacXL
>>> Harker Heights, Tx
>>> *
>
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Subject: | Re: Canopy cleaning |
you can also use talcum powder as a scratch remover.
juan
-----Original Message-----
>From: LarryMcFarland <larry@macsmachine.com>
>Sent: Apr 1, 2007 1:27 PM
>To: zenith-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Canopy cleaning
>
>
>Robert,
>The Clear View can be ordered from Aircraft Spruce and it's as good as
>anything, but
>microfiber cloth is the more important choice because it's used to
>polish anything acrylic
>and it doesn't scratch at all. Slightly more cost, but they are also
>washable.
>
>Larry
>Do not archive
>
>robert stone wrote:
>>
>> Larry,
>> Thanks for the reply but like Bryan who also replied with a
>> sugestion as to what to use, you did not tell me where I can get it.
>>
>> Tracy
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "LarryMcFarland"
>> <larry@macsmachine.com>
>> To: <zenith-list@matronics.com>
>> Sent: Sunday, April 01, 2007 9:14 AM
>> Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Canopy cleaning
>>
>>
>>> <larry@macsmachine.com>
>>>
>>> Robert,
>>> I've been using a product called Clear View in a spray can and
>>> microfiber towels to polish and
>>> clean the canopy. It works great and the microfiber towels can be
>>> bought at any local Farm & Fleet
>>> or automotive store. Just water with microfiber towels works well
>>> for removing bugs too.
>>>
>>> Larry McFarland 601HDS at www.macsmachine.com
>>> do not archive
>>>
>>>
>>> robert stone wrote:
>>>> Members,
>>>> What is the best product any of you know of to clean a
>>>> Plexiglas canopy.
>>>> Tracy Stone
>>>> ZodiacXL
>>>> Harker Heights, Tx
>>>> *
>>
>
>
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Subject: | Re: RE: NACA scoops |
please send me the picture, i would ove to see it and it did not come through.
-----Original Message-----
>From: Roger Venables <roger@nwtradingpost.com>
>Sent: Mar 31, 2007 11:50 AM
>To: zenith-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Zenith-List: RE: NACA scoops
>
>Dred
>
>
>
>Nice job. Where did you get those scoops from?
>
>
>
>Roger
>
>
>
>From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
>[mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Edward Moody II
>Sent: Friday, March 30, 2007 5:18 PM
>To: zenith-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Rudder Spar Dent
>
>
>
>I couldn't see it with the big red circle. As others told you, it was no big
>deal but I could tell that it was bugging you as it would have bugged me.
>You made an excellent fix without going overboard at all. True, some other
>guy's plane will fly just fine and nobody will know whether or not he
>straightened out his dings. So what? You know you took time to do it to your
>satisfaction. Cool huh?
>
>
>
>Looky what I did today.... farted around for almost four hours to do Naca
>scoops and eyeball vent mounts
>
>
>
>Dred
>
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Subject: | Re: Canopy cleaning |
Aircraft Spruce carries it. $3.95 for an 8-oz. spray bottle or $10.90
for 64-oz. They also carry the Novus #2 and #3 for light and heavy
scratch removal. I've also used those with good results. Other places
sell Novus plastic polish but A. S. seems the have about the lowest
price.
On Apr 1, 2007, at 12:31 PM, robert stone wrote:
>
> Bryan,
> Thanks for the reply, but you did not tell me where I can get
> the stuff??
>
> Tracy
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bryan Martin"
> <bryanmmartin@comcast.net>
> To: <zenith-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Sunday, April 01, 2007 9:05 AM
> Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Canopy cleaning
>
>
>> <bryanmmartin@comcast.net>
>>
>> I've been using Novus #1 with very good results.
--
Bryan Martin
N61BM, CH 601 XL,
RAM Subaru, Stratus redrive.
do not archive.
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Subject: | NACA vents and other goodies |
Fellars,
It's been pointed out a few times in the past but...even though you're
not building an RV, Vans has a bunch of really neat goodies for our use
too.
Check out:
http://www.vansaircraft.com/cgi-bin/catalog.cgi?browse=heatvent&product
=ventilation-components<http://www.vansaircraft.com/cgi-bin/catalog.cgi
?browse=heatvent&product=ventilation-components>
smallie
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Subject: | Re: canopy cleaning |
What is the best product any of you know of to clean a Plexiglas
canopy. Try Lava soap. jeff
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Subject: | flying or fairly complete 601XL projects near Pensacola FL? |
Greetings,
Subject pretty much says it all. I've been interested in the 601XL for years,
and am once again shopping for a "next project". I'd love to see one of these,
and hopefully get the chance to at least sit in one. A ride would be almost
too much to hope for, but I sure wouldn't turn one down :D
Thanks,
Rusty
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Subject: | Re: flying or fairly complete 601XL projects near Pensacola |
FL?
You don't say where you are! do not archive
----- Original Message -----
From: "13brv3" <13brv3c@bellsouth.net>
Sent: Sunday, April 01, 2007 7:47 PM
Subject: Zenith-List: flying or fairly complete 601XL projects near
Pensacola FL?
>
> Greetings,
>
> Subject pretty much says it all. I've been interested in the 601XL for
> years, and am once again shopping for a "next project". I'd love to see
> one of these, and hopefully get the chance to at least sit in one. A ride
> would be almost too much to hope for, but I sure wouldn't turn one down
> :D
>
> Thanks,
> Rusty
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=104377#104377
>
>
> --
> 8:54 PM
>
>
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Subject: | Ram Subaru Conversions...Good? or Bad? |
I was told you guys on the Zenith list might now a little more about the Ram Engines
subaru conversions? Here is what I am looking at: I am building a Kitfox
and am having trouble deciding on an engine. I could go with the tried and
true Rotax 912 but I want a bit more power and performance.
A couple weeks ago, I cam across Ram Engines and their subaru conversions. I like
the looks of the EA81 conversion they do that reportedly puts out 140 hp.
The specs on the engine put it just slightly heavier than the Rotax but with
40 more horsepower! That has got to be good right? Well, I have heard some bad
things about subaru conversions but I believe that most of them stem from the
NSI conversions that has since gone south. I called and spoke with Ron at
Ram Engines and he seemed to be very nice and extremely knowledgable.
Now the question: Does anyone have any experience with Ram Engines? How does
the engine run? Is the weight as specified? Have there been any major problems
with the engine? Etc.
I am looking specifically for information about the engines and the experience
with Ram Engines from a customer support standpoint. I am hoping you guys may
provide more insight as I like the looks of this powerplant.
Thanks,
Darin
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Subject: | Re: flying or fairly complete 601XL projects near Pensacola |
FL?
Well, the subject says "near Pensacola FL". Specifically, I'm in Navarre, FL,
but I didn't figure too many people would know where that is without a good map
:-)
Rusty
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Subject: | Re: flying or fairly complete 601XL projects near Pensacola |
FL?
Sorry. The heading was too long and that part was off the screen. do not
archive
----- Original Message -----
From: "13brv3" <13brv3c@bellsouth.net>
Sent: Sunday, April 01, 2007 8:14 PM
Subject: Zenith-List: Re: flying or fairly complete 601XL projects near
Pensacola FL?
>
> Well, the subject says "near Pensacola FL". Specifically, I'm in Navarre,
> FL, but I didn't figure too many people would know where that is without a
> good map :-)
>
> Rusty
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
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> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=104384#104384
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> 8:54 PM
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Subject: | Re: flying or fairly complete 601XL projects near Pensacola |
FL?
Do yourself a favor and drive up to visit with William Wynne. He has a
flying 601 and is a great fellow to spend time with.
Mark Townsend
Can-Zac Aviation Ltd.
president@can-zacaviation.com
www.can-zacaviation.com
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of 13brv3
Sent: Sunday, April 01, 2007 9:15 PM
Subject: Zenith-List: Re: flying or fairly complete 601XL projects near
Pensacola FL?
Well, the subject says "near Pensacola FL". Specifically, I'm in
Navarre, FL, but I didn't figure too many people would know where that
is without a good map :-)
Rusty
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Subject: | Fuel Filler Neck Woes |
I'm posting this in the hope that others may be spared the problem that I faced
with my fuel tank filler. About two months ago I installed capacitance type
fuel level sensors in my 15 gallon ZAC made tanks. Deciding it would be a good
idea to test for leaks I put about 5 gallons of fuel in each one, screwed the
filler neck in by hand, installed the cap and set them aside for a couple of
weeks. There were no leaks and after I drained the fuel out I went to remove
the filler neck. The left tank came apart ok but the neck in the right one
moved about half a turn and stuck. I and an A & P mechanic friend tried everything
we could think of but in the end had to carefully cut the filler neck
out. It was almost like the threads had welded together, even though I had used
oil on them before installing. For what it was worth, I had noticed a couple
of spots that turned a little harder when I screwed it in.
I contacted ZAC and they informed me that they would put me on the list to borrow
the "big tap" to clean the tank flange's threads out. It was a few weeks
before it was my turn but when it came this week I used it successfully to clean
up the threads in both tanks. When finished, the new neck (almost a $70 part)
screwed in and out very easily.
Today I installed it using a thread sealant and it when on very nicely. I would
recommend to anyone that if your filler does not turn in easily that you may
want to clean up the threads before trying to install. I've heard of other builders
that have had similar problems of freezing threads and it can be costly
in time and money to repair.
Tim Juhl
Starting Left Wing - Right finished (finally)
Jabiru 3300A
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CFII
Champ L16A flying
Zodiac XL - Jabiru 3300A
Working on wings
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Subject: | Re: Fuel Filler Neck Woes |
Tim
I had a similiar problem and solved it by making a tool out of delrin that fit
the filler neck and was large enough so I could apply the required torque to
remove the filler neck.
regards
James S
-----Original Message-----
From: juhl@avci.net
To: zenith-list@matronics.com
Sent: Sun, 1 Apr 2007 6:50 PM
Subject: Zenith-List: Fuel Filler Neck Woes
I'm posting this in the hope that others may be spared the problem that I faced
with my fuel tank filler. About two months ago I installed capacitance type
fuel level sensors in my 15 gallon ZAC made tanks. Deciding it would be a good
idea to test for leaks I put about 5 gallons of fuel in each one, screwed the
filler neck in by hand, installed the cap and set them aside for a couple of
weeks. There were no leaks and after I drained the fuel out I went to remove
the filler neck. The left tank came apart ok but the neck in the right one
moved about half a turn and stuck. I and an A & P mechanic friend tried
everything we could think of but in the end had to carefully cut the filler neck
out. It was almost like the threads had welded together, even though I had used
oil on them before installing. For what it was worth, I had noticed a couple of
spots that turned a little harder when I screwed it in.
I contacted ZAC and they informed me that they would put me on the list to
borrow the "big tap" to clean the tank flange's threads out. It was a few
weeks before it was my turn but when it came this week I used it successfully to
clean up the threads in both tanks. When finished, the new neck (almost a $70
part) screwed in and out very easily.
Today I installed it using a thread sealant and it when on very nicely. I would
recommend to anyone that if your filler does not turn in easily that you may
want to clean up the threads before trying to install. I've heard of other
builders that have had similar problems of freezing threads and it can be costly
in time and money to repair.
Tim Juhl
Starting Left Wing - Right finished (finally)
Jabiru 3300A
--------
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______________
CFII
Champ L16A flying
Zodiac XL - Jabiru 3300A
Working on wings
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Subject: | Re: flying or fairly complete 601XL projects near Pensacola |
FL?
Hi Mark,
William appears to be in Jacksonville, FL, which is about 5.5 hours away. It would
be well worth going there if I had any interest in using a Corvair engine,
but that's not part of the plan. Hopefully, there will be something a bit closer.
Thanks,
Rusty
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Subject: | Re: Ram Subaru Conversions...Good? or Bad? |
Didn't ,you read all the Emails last time out ? Joe N101HD
----- Original Message -----
From: "darinh" <gerns25@netscape.net>
Sent: Sunday, April 01, 2007 8:56 PM
Subject: Zenith-List: Ram Subaru Conversions...Good? or Bad?
>
> I was told you guys on the Zenith list might now a little more about the
> Ram Engines subaru conversions? Here is what I am looking at: I am
> building a Kitfox and am having trouble deciding on an engine. I could go
> with the tried and true Rotax 912 but I want a bit more power and
> performance.
>
> A couple weeks ago, I cam across Ram Engines and their subaru conversions.
> I like the looks of the EA81 conversion they do that reportedly puts out
> 140 hp. The specs on the engine put it just slightly heavier than the
> Rotax but with 40 more horsepower! That has got to be good right? Well,
> I have heard some bad things about subaru conversions but I believe that
> most of them stem from the NSI conversions that has since gone south. I
> called and spoke with Ron at Ram Engines and he seemed to be very nice and
> extremely knowledgable.
>
> Now the question: Does anyone have any experience with Ram Engines? How
> does the engine run? Is the weight as specified? Have there been any
> major problems with the engine? Etc.
>
> I am looking specifically for information about the engines and the
> experience with Ram Engines from a customer support standpoint. I am
> hoping you guys may provide more insight as I like the looks of this
> powerplant.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Darin
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> Read this topic online here:
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> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=104381#104381
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These 601 manuals can be edited:
http://www.ch601.org/resources/601OperatingManual-1.zip - Rich Text Format,
can be opened in almost any word processor
http://www.ch601.org/resources/HDS_P_O_H.doc - Microsoft Word
I didn't see any 701 POHs on the www.ch701.com site.
-- Craig
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[mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
j2fortune@aol.com
Sent: Sunday, April 01, 2007 7:29 AM
Subject: Zenith-List: CH-801 POH
I'm near completion of my CH-801 kit, N63VK and would greatly appreciate any
means to avoid reinventing a POH.
Thank you in advance for any leg up on this stage of the project. I have
PDF versions of various POH's for other aircraft. Would be very apprecative
of a editable starting point, best if 801 specific .
Jeff
St. Petersburg, FL
Land, sea, rotorcraft pilot
fyi
engine: Superior XP360
amphibian: Czech floats
photos available
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Subject: | flying or fairly complete 601XL projects near Pensacola |
FL?
Also if you are serious about this it would behoove you to travel to
Sun-N-Fun. Aside from the factory's planes there should be multiple builders
and XLs there. Yes, I realize it is 6.5 hour drive. But this is a big
investment.
-- Craig
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Subject: | flying or fairly complete 601XL projects near Pensacola |
FL?
Niceville looks close by (27 miles) - there is this entry in the Zenith
builder database:
Builder Information:
Name: Gary Bean
Login Name: Jeepguy
Address: 201 Dominica Circle E.
Niceville
Florida 32578
United States
Email: GaryBean45@WMconnect.com
Tel: (850)897-4018
Building From: ZODIAC Complete Kit
Status: Just Started
Engine Jabiru 3300
Date Started: 2005
My homepage:
Favorite website:
Age: 59
Occupation: Retired
Employer: US Airways
Building 601XL. Finished rudder on April 21,2005 May 29,2005 Finished
horizontal stabilizer, except for fiberglass tips. June 28,2005 : Finished
elevator and elevator trim. July and August..Time off to attend Airventure
2005. Waiting on delivery of remainder of kit. Sept 21,2005 : Finished wing
flaps. Sept 25,2005 : Finished the Ailerons, and aileron trim. Nov 18,2005
Finished right wing. Dec 13,2005 Finished left wing.
Latest Updates:
Dec 15,2005 : Started on Fuselage.
Why I'm building an aircraft:
Aviation Background:
No prior building experience. Flying since 1969. 20 years in USAF, 13 years
with airline. ATP
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Subject: | Official Zenith-List Usage Guidelines |
Dear Listers,
Please read over the Zenith-List Usage Guidelines below. The complete
Zenith-List FAQ including these Usage Guidelines can be found at the
following URL:
http://www.matronics.com/FAQs/Zenith-List.FAQ.html
Thank you,
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
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Zenith-List Usage Guidelines
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The following details the official Usage Guidelines for the Zenith-List.
You are encouraged to read it carefully, and to abide by the rules therein.
Failure to use the Zenith-List in the manner described below may result
in the removal of the subscribers from the List.
Zenith-List Policy Statement
The purpose of the Zenith-List is to provide a forum of discussion for
things related to this particular discussion group. The List's goals
are to serve as an information resource to its members; to deliver
high-quality content; to provide moral support; to foster camaraderie
among its members; and to support safe operation. Reaching these goals
requires the participation and cooperation of each and every member of
the List. To this end, the following guidelines have been established:
- Please keep all posts related to the List at some level. Do not submit
posts concerning computer viruses, urban legends, random humor, long
lost buddies' phone numbers, etc. etc.
- THINK carefully before you write. Ask yourself if your post will be
relevant to everyone. If you have to wonder about that, DON'T send it.
- Remember that your post will be included for posterity in an archive
that is growing in size at an extraordinary rate. Try to be concise and
terse in your posts. Avoid overly wordy and lengthy posts and
responses.
- Keep your signature brief. Please include your name, email address,
aircraft type/tail number, and geographic location. A short line
about where you are in the building process is also nice. Avoid
bulky signatures with character graphics; they consume unnecessary
space in the archive.
- DON'T post requests to the List for information when that info is
easily obtainable from other widely available sources. Consult the
web page or FAQ first.
- If you want to respond to a post, DO keep the "Subject:" line of
your response the same as that of the original post. This makes it
easy to find threads in the archive.
- When responding, NEVER quote the *entire* original post in your
response. DO use lines from the original post to help "tune in" the
reader to the topic at hand, but be selective. The impact that
quoting the entire original post has on the size of the archive
can not be overstated!
- When the poster asks you to respond to him/her personally, DO NOT
then go ahead and reply to the List. Be aware that clicking the
"reply" button on your mail package does not necessarily send your
response to the original poster. You might have to actively address
your response with the original poster's email address.
- DO NOT use the List to respond to a post unless you have something
to add that is relevant and has a broad appeal. "Way to go!", "I
agree", and "Congratulations" are all responses that are better sent
to the original poster directly, rather than to the List at large.
- When responding to others' posts, avoid the feeling that you need to
comment on every last point in their posts, unless you can truly
contribute something valuable.
- Feel free to disagree with other viewpoints, BUT keep your tone
polite and respectful. Don't make snide comments, personally attack
other listers, or take the moral high ground on an obviously
controversial issue. This will only cause a pointless debate that
will hurt feelings, waste bandwidth and resolve nothing.
- Occassional posts by vendors or individuals who are regularyly
subscribed to a given List are considered acceptable. Posts by
List members promoting their respective products or items for sale
should be of a friendly, informal nature, and should not resemble
a typical SPAM message. The List isn't about commercialism, but
is about sharing information and knowledge. This applies to
everyone, including those who provide products to the entire
community. Informal presentation and moderation should be the
operatives with respect to advertising on the Lists.
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