Zenith-List Digest Wed 04/18/07

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Wed 04/18/07

Total Messages Posted: 15



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 12:11 AM - Re: Higher gross on 701 (jetboy)
     2. 02:42 AM - Re: Adding Duct Tape to the Toolbox (601HDS Ribs to Spar) (David Downey)
     3. 03:48 AM - Re: spray foam insulation to secure l.e. fuel tanks (kkinney)
     4. 06:00 AM - Re: Visit to Holland (hansriet)
     5. 06:51 AM - Re: spray foam insulation to secure l.e. fuel tanks (R.P.)
     6. 07:32 AM - Re: Hand Prop Jabiru 2200 (R.P.)
     7. 08:08 AM - Re: Hand Prop Jabiru 2200 (Gig Giacona)
     8. 08:25 AM - CH801 kit components for sale (Gary Craze)
     9. 08:33 AM - Re: Re: Hand Prop Jabiru 2200 (R.P.)
    10. 09:45 AM - Re: Hand Prop Jabiru 2200 (Gig Giacona)
    11. 12:16 PM - LRI probes (Mark Sherman)
    12. 12:47 PM - Re: LRI probes (John Bolding)
    13. 01:07 PM - Re: Re: Hand Prop Jabiru 2200 (n801bh@netzero.com)
    14. 01:46 PM - Re: Hand Prop Jabiru 2200 (Gig Giacona)
    15. 08:16 PM - Items for sale (tjlhl)
 
 
 

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Time: 12:11:54 AM PST US
Subject: Re: Higher gross on 701
From: "jetboy" <sanson.r@xtra.co.nz>      
      
      What you are asking for is designated CH750. The 701 is already maxxed out from
      the original 880 lbs design. In some countries you can fly above max. design
      wt. but with a reduced G limit - ZAC provide the calculations for this on their
      website, but you would be better to wait for the availability of the 750 or
      801.
      
      Ralph
      
      --------
      Ralph - CH701 / 2200a
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=107694#107694
      
      

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Time: 02:42:58 AM PST US
From: David Downey <planecrazydld@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Adding Duct Tape to the Toolbox (601HDS Ribs to Spar)      
      Thanks Mitch!
      
      do not archive
      
      "Hodges, Mitch" <mitch@HODGES.INFO> wrote: As requested, here are photos and an
      explanation of how I used a roll of
      duct tape to drill the nose and rear ribs for the HDS:
      
      
        Dave Downey
        Harleysville (SE) PA
        Zodiac 601XL/Corvair?
      
      
             
      ---------------------------------
      Ahhh...imagining that irresistible "new car" smell?
       Check outnew cars at Yahoo! Autos.
      

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Time: 03:48:39 AM PST US
Subject: Re: spray foam insulation to secure l.e. fuel tanks
From: "kkinney" <kkinney@fuse.net>      
      
      Before you use spray foam, I'd recommend you search the archives.
      
      A member used it  under some flashing.  The problem was that spray foam doesn't
      stop expanding for quite a while.  The flashing didn't stay in the shape it was
      supposed to.
      
      Good idea, but if you use it, I'd recommend you experiment with it first.
      
      
      Regards,
      Kevin Kinney
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=107701#107701
      
      

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Time: 06:00:24 AM PST US
Subject: Re: Visit to Holland
From: "hansriet" <hansinla@mac.com>      
      
      Hi Mark,
      
      How is Almere nowadays? I used to live there until I moved to the US in '99.
      
      Hans
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=107710#107710
      
      

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Time: 06:51:54 AM PST US
From: "R.P." <zodie@adelphia.net>
Subject: Re: spray foam insulation to secure l.e. fuel tanks      
      
      
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: "Frank Probst" <fprobst@HOTMAIL.COM>
      Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2007 8:19 PM
      Subject: Zenith-List: spray foam insulation to secure l.e. fuel tanks
      
      
      >
      > Has any one ever tried this?  It would seem like a good way to make sure 
      > the tanks don't move and rub.  There is  the stuff for doors and windows. 
      > It does not expand. Put some in between the tank and ribs and the spar. 
      > The only concern would be some kind of a corrosive effect on the aluminum.
      >
      > Frank Probst
      >
      >
      
      I don't think the foam itself would be corrosive, but you moisture will get 
      trapped between the foam/aluminum sandwich. THAT will cause some corrosion 
      problems.
      
      The foam would also be susceptable to being washed away with any fuel spills 
      that might seep in when you over-fill the tank or take off with topped off 
      tanks.
      Better stick with the cork.
      
      Rick 
      
      

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Time: 07:32:33 AM PST US
From: "R.P." <zodie@adelphia.net>
Subject: Re: Hand Prop Jabiru 2200      
      
      
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: "George Race" <mykitairplane@mrrace.com>
      Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2007 4:43 PM
      Subject: Zenith-List: Hand Prop Jabiru 2200
      
      
      >I recall reading somewhere that it is not possible to hand prop and start a
      > Jabiru 2200 due to requiring about 300 RPM to develop enough spark to 
      > start
      > the engine.
      >
      > If indeed this is the case, has anyone developed an auxiliary ignition
      > system that would allow one to hand prop/start the engine?
      >
      > Would hate to be caught out in the boonies, on the ground, with a dead
      > battery.
      >
      > George
      > Working on the left wing.
      > CH-701 N73EX (reserved)
      >
      
      
      There have been a few people that have adapted an automotive aftermarket 
      ignition system to their Jabiru's, but an easier (better?) way would be to 
      add an additional lightweight Oddesey battery for back-up.
      
      Rick
      601HD/Jabiru 3300 
      
      

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Time: 08:08:48 AM PST US
Subject: Re: Hand Prop Jabiru 2200
From: "Gig Giacona" <wr.giacona@suddenlink.net>      
      
      rickpitcher, you've had two messages I've noticed that were blank. The one in this
      thread and the one in the thread about foam for fueal tanks.
      
      DO NOT ARCHIVE
      
      --------
      W.R. &quot;Gig&quot; Giacona
      601XL Under Construction
      See my progress at www.peoamerica.net/N601WR
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=107731#107731
      
      

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Time: 08:25:20 AM PST US
From: "Gary Craze" <garycraze@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject: CH801 kit components for sale      
      
      Due to other time and family commitments, I've decided to sell my Zenith
      CH801 project.
      
      Here is what I have:
      
      - Wings Kit    (Zenith price: $6245)
      - Fuel System Kit  (Zenith price:  $1225)
      - Tail Kit (Zenith price: $1750)
      - Nav/Strobe Kit (Zenith price: $465)
      
      - Nice 4' x 12' work table.
      
      *  I have not purchased the remaining component kits ( fuselage, gear, etc)
      
      The total Zenith price for the above components (not counting shipping or
      taxes) is just under $9700.
      
      I'm asking $8000 for everything (including the table if you want it).
      
      Current state of the project:
      
          - I've only started on the Tail Kit.   The rudder is 100% complete, and
      the horizontal stabilizer is about half done.
          - The wing kit and fuel kit is still in the factory crate.
      
      
      Given that the rudder is complete and the horizontal stab is sitting in the
      jig, I don't want to ship anything.
      
        I live in Houston, TX and I'll deliver within the regional area (Houston,
      Dallas, San Antonio, etc.) for $1 per round-trip mile.
      
      Many thanks,
      
      Gary Craze
      281-455-9226
      garycraze@hotmail.com
      
      

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Time: 08:33:45 AM PST US
From: "R.P." <zodie@adelphia.net>
Subject: Re: Hand Prop Jabiru 2200      
      
      
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: "Gig Giacona" <wr.giacona@suddenlink.net>
      Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2007 8:08 AM
      Subject: Zenith-List: Re: Hand Prop Jabiru 2200
      
      
      > <wr.giacona@suddenlink.net>
      >
      > rickpitcher, you've had two messages I've noticed that were blank. The one 
      > in this thread and the one in the thread about foam for fueal tanks.
      >
      > DO NOT ARCHIVE
      >
      
      Thanks Gig. I thought Matt had fixed that glitch.
      I reposted from the web instead of e-mail.
      
      Rick
      
      do not archive 
      
      

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Time: 09:45:54 AM PST US
Subject: Re: Hand Prop Jabiru 2200
From: "Gig Giacona" <wr.giacona@suddenlink.net>      
      
      That one was blank in the forum as well.
      
      
      DO NOT ARCHIVE
      
      --------
      W.R. &quot;Gig&quot; Giacona
      601XL Under Construction
      See my progress at www.peoamerica.net/N601WR
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=107748#107748
      
      

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Time: 12:16:24 PM PST US
From: Mark Sherman <msherman95632@yahoo.com>
Subject: LRI probes      
      
      John
      
      How is the next batch of probes comming along.
      
      Mark S.
      do not archive
      
      #4
      Message: #45608
      From: "John Bolding" <jnbolding1(at)teleshare.net>
      Subject: Re: Making an LRI probe
      
      
      Ron,
      My last message to the group got lost in space.   When I announced,all 
      the inventory evaporated in 3 hrs.  I have another batch of 50 coming in 
      a week or so.  I'll keep your email and send out notices to those who 
      got left behind the first time before I make the next announcement.  
      thanks for your interest.   John
        ----- Original Message ----- 
        From: R.D.(Ron) Leclerc 
        To: John Bolding 
        Cc: R.D.(Ron) Leclerc 
        Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2007 9:33 PM
        Subject: xxx Re: xxx Re: Zenith-List: Re: Making an LRI probe
      
      __________________________________________________
      
      

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Time: 12:47:50 PM PST US
From: "John Bolding" <jnbolding1@teleshare.net>
Subject: Re: LRI probes      
      they arrived about 5 min ago,   send ck for $30+$5 priority Shipping to 
      J&N Bolding Ent.Inc  15731 Lakeview Dr. Baytown, TX 77520
        ----- Original Message ----- 
        From: Mark Sherman 
        To: Zenith List 
        Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2007 2:14 PM
        Subject: Zenith-List: LRI probes
      
      
      <msherman95632@yahoo.com>
      
        John
      
        How is the next batch of probes comming along.
      
        Mark S.
        do not archive
      
        #4
        Message: #45608
        From: "John Bolding" <jnbolding1(at)teleshare.net>
        Subject: Re: Making an LRI probe
        Date: Mar 28, 2007
      
      
        Ron,
        My last message to the group got lost in space.   When I announced,all 
      
        the inventory evaporated in 3 hrs.  I have another batch of 50 coming 
      in 
        a week or so.  I'll keep your email and send out notices to those who 
        got left behind the first time before I make the next announcement.  
        thanks for your interest.   John
          ----- Original Message ----- 
          From: R.D.(Ron) Leclerc 
          To: John Bolding 
          Cc: R.D.(Ron) Leclerc 
          Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2007 9:33 PM
          Subject: xxx Re: xxx Re: Zenith-List: Re: Making an LRI probe
      
        __________________________________________________
      
      

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Time: 01:07:07 PM PST US
From: "n801bh@netzero.com" <n801bh@netzero.com>
Subject: Re: Hand Prop Jabiru 2200      
      All of Ricks messages came though readable on my end......
      do not archive
      
      
      Ben Haas
      N801BH
      www.haaspowerair.com
      
      -- "Gig Giacona" <wr.giacona@suddenlink.net> wrote:
      net>
      
      That one was blank in the forum as well.
      
      
      DO NOT ARCHIVE
      
      --------
      W.R. &quot;Gig&quot; Giacona
      601XL Under Construction
      See my progress at www.peoamerica.net/N601WR
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=107748#107748
      
      
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Time: 01:46:08 PM PST US
Subject: Re: Hand Prop Jabiru 2200
From: "Gig Giacona" <wr.giacona@suddenlink.net>      
      
      It is a forum issue and he isn't alone in the problem.
      
      --------
      W.R. &quot;Gig&quot; Giacona
      601XL Under Construction
      See my progress at www.peoamerica.net/N601WR
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=107786#107786
      
      

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Time: 08:16:45 PM PST US
From: "tjlhl" <tjlhl@sbcglobal.net>
Subject: Items for sale      
      Matt is it OK to put a for sale email on the Zenith list, of a 601XL 
      main gear, and some 12 gal. wing tanks.  Please let me know if this is 
      OK or is there a wanted and for sale seperate list.   Thank you,  Tom 
      Loftin
      








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