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1. 12:11 AM - Have a better flap handle for CH701? (Les Goldner)
2. 12:46 AM - Re: Items for sale (n282rs@satx.rr.com)
3. 09:15 AM - Re: Spray foam insulation ... (Bima, Martin)
4. 09:59 AM - Re: LRI probes (Ron Lalonde)
5. 12:23 PM - Re: LRI probes (John Bolding)
6. 12:32 PM - Fw: LRI probes (John Bolding)
7. 12:39 PM - Running electrical cables (Dr. Andrew Elliott)
8. 01:03 PM - Re: Running electrical cables (Bryan Martin)
9. 01:25 PM - Re: Running electrical cables (VideoFlyer@aol.com)
10. 01:34 PM - Cloverdale (Dan Lykowski)
11. 01:50 PM - Re: Running electrical cables ()
12. 02:33 PM - Re: Running electrical cables (Gig Giacona)
13. 04:09 PM - Re: 6.4mm Reamer? (Stephen R. Look)
14. 05:02 PM - Re: Running electrical cables (Jaybannist@cs.com)
15. 06:12 PM - Re: Cloverdale (n787xl@aol.com)
16. 06:18 PM - Re: Re: Spray foam insulation ... (n787xl@aol.com)
17. 06:23 PM - Re: LRI probes (Gbrac80@aol.com)
18. 08:29 PM - Re: Cloverdale (Craig Payne)
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| Subject: | Have a better flap handle for CH701? |
I am working on the forward cockpit of my CH701 kit and would like to find a
better flap handle arrangement. Several years ago the Zenair news described
an easier-to-use handle extension that had better mechanical advantage. The
diagram for this handle from Z-news is attached. I have seen a newer
versions that look better. If you have good pictures, construction drawings,
or specs for similar handles, or builds them for others, please let me know.
Rgds,
Les
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| Subject: | Re: Items for sale |
Most won't care if you list this stuff here, but it's real helpful if you include
prices and your location.
Randy Stout
San Antonio TX
S-N-F today!
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From: tjlhl <tjlhl@sbcglobal.net>
To:Zenith-List@matronics.com
Subject: Zenith-List: Items for sale
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| Subject: | RE: Spray foam insulation ... |
Although it is impervious to gasoline (I looked it up in chemistry
tables and performed experiments in the shop over 6 and 12 months), the
expanding foam does run away a bit when it expands. You can buy the
minimal expanding stuff, but it still expands.
I have abandoned the idea in favour of close-cell foam pipe insulation
(for 3/4" copper tubing - about 2" OD). This has a little bit of give
when installed, but most importantly, can be easily removed in case of a
tank leak. The spray foam sticks and would have to be chopped out.
Martin Bima
701 STOLVAIR
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Hi John
Money order was sent out this morning. Sometimes it takes a few days when
coming from Canada, but it IS on the way.
Thanks
Ron
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No rush, yours is in the box, thanks John
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From: Ron Lalonde
To: zenith-list@matronics.com
Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2007 11:57 AM
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: LRI probes
<rlalonde@hotmail.com>
Hi John
Money order was sent out this morning. Sometimes it takes a few days
when
coming from Canada, but it IS on the way.
Thanks
Ron
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Sorry list , thought I was sending directly to Ron, GUYS , PLEASE
email me directly regarding the probes, NOT thru the list. Thanks
John
jnbolding1 "at" teleshare "dot" net
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From: John Bolding
Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2007 2:21 PM
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: LRI probes
No rush, yours is in the box, thanks John
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From: Ron Lalonde
To: zenith-list@matronics.com
Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2007 11:57 AM
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: LRI probes
<rlalonde@hotmail.com>
Hi John
Money order was sent out this morning. Sometimes it takes a few days
when
coming from Canada, but it IS on the way.
Thanks
Ron
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| Subject: | Running electrical cables |
Gang:
I am approaching (slowly) the point where I need consider where and how
I will run the electrical connections from the panel back on my 601XL.
I am looking for some comments from you all that have passed this point.
It seems that in my dual-stick plane, there are three pathways
immediately obvious:
1. under left canopy rail
2. under right canopy rail
3. through control tunnel
3a. up top on the sides out of the way of the cables
3b. down low though the spar hole out of the way of the cables
I am thinking that the wiring to the wings, for lights and pitot heat,
would be rightly run under the respective canopy rails, then down
between the fuselage side and the interior panel, then out through the
fuselage side in the wing root area.
Similarly, the wiring for the comm antenna, transponder antenna, ELT
control wires (if installed) and beacon, plus the autopilot would be
good candidates for the 3a. route (which is not really available in
center-stick planes). This would also be the location of the wires from
the trim on the stick to the trim relays behind the seat, and for the
coaxes for the remote gyro (mounted under the console cover) and remote
compass (mounted under the baggage floor) for my EFIS.
The flap control wires could also run through the 3a. path if the switch
is on the console, or alternately under the left rail if the switch is
on the panel.
Any comments about this routing plan?
Andy Elliott, Mesa, AZ
N601GE (reserved)
601XL/TD/QB, Corvair, building...
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| Subject: | Re: Running electrical cables |
I ran the GPS and VOR antenna cables under one canopy rail and the
Com 1 antenna under the other because those antennas are all mounted
up high in the rear fuselage. I didn't want to run the transmitter
cable real close to the two receiver cables for any large distance,
which is why I ran them on opposite sides. I installed half inch poly
tubing under the canopy rails to use as cable ways. I ran pretty much
every thing else through the tunnel on either side of and at the same
level as the torque tube (3c). With the center stick, that puts them
out of the way of any moving parts.
On Apr 19, 2007, at 3:38 PM, Dr. Andrew Elliott wrote:
> Gang:
>
> I am approaching (slowly) the point where I need consider where and
> how I will run the electrical connections from the panel back on my
> 601XL. I am looking for some comments from you all that have
> passed this point.
>
> It seems that in my dual-stick plane, there are three pathways
> immediately obvious:
>
> 1. under left canopy rail
> 2. under right canopy rail
> 3. through control tunnel
> 3a. up top on the sides out of the way of the cables
> 3b. down low though the spar hole out of the way of the cables
>
--
Bryan Martin
N61BM, CH 601 XL,
RAM Subaru, Stratus redrive.
do not archive.
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| Subject: | Re: Running electrical cables |
I enclosed the channel that runs underneath the cabin from the front nose
wheel to the spring gear with a slightly wider piece of channel. A couple of
holes in the floor with heavy duty rubber grommets allowed me to run all my
cables underneath the spar in the newly enclosed channel. They re-enter the
plane behind the spar. I ran all of my wiring...plus the pitot and static
tubes...plus tubes for the LRI ....with plenty of room. Keeps thing out of the
way by your feet and inside the cabin. I'll send a pic if you're interested.
Dave
601XL/Corvair
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| Subject: | th-List:Cloverdale |
Is there anyone who is planning on going to the Cloverdale regional fly-in on May
5th?
Dan Lykowski
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| Subject: | Re: Running electrical cables |
A very cool idea Dave. Thanks for the insight.
Dred
---- VideoFlyer@aol.com wrote:
> I enclosed the channel that runs underneath the cabin from the front nose
> wheel to the spring gear with a slightly wider piece of channel.
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| Subject: | Re: Running electrical cables |
I had thought of doing the exact same thing. Do you have any photos?
VideoFlyer(at)aol.com wrote:
> I enclosed the channel that runs underneath the cabin from the front nose wheel
to the spring gear with a slightly wider piece of channel. A couple of holes
in the floor with heavy duty rubber grommets allowed me to run all my cables
underneath the spar in the newly enclosed channel. They re-enter the plane
behind the spar. I ran all of my wiring...plus the pitot and static tubes...plus
tubes for the LRI ....with plenty of room. Keeps thing out of the way
by your feet and inside the cabin. I'll send a pic if you're interested.
>
>
> Dave
> 601XL/Corvair
>
>
>
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W.R. "Gig" Giacona
601XL Under Construction
See my progress at www.peoamerica.net/N601WR
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=107965#107965
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| Subject: | Re: 6.4mm Reamer? |
The plot thickens! I'm glad I didn't spend money to buy a reamer. The
bell crank hole is already at 6.4mm. Stopped by my buddy's house
tonight to run the reamer through the two parts and it passed right
through! Measured with my cheap Chinese mic at .252". So I came back
home and measured my 1/4" bushings... .252".
I guess I'll spin the bushings over a file or something and knock a
few .001s off of them.
Steve
Steve Look
Monticello, IL
601XL, Corvair
"Dogs have owners, Cats have staff"
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| Subject: | Running electrical cables |
Don't forget that you will probably have a big, fat battery cable to run as well
as pitot & static tubing.
Jay in Dallas
Do not archive
"Dr. Andrew Elliott" <a.s.elliott@cox.net> wrote:
>Gang:
>
>I am approaching (slowly) the point where I need consider where and how I will
run the electrical connections from the panel back on my 601XL. I am looking
for some comments from you all that have passed this point.
>
>It seems that in my dual-stick plane, there are three pathways immediately obvious:
>
>1. under left canopy rail
>2. under right canopy rail
>3. through control tunnel
> 3a. up top on the sides out of the way of the cables
> 3b. down low though the spar hole out of the way of the cables
>
>I am thinking that the wiring to the wings, for lights and pitot heat, would be
rightly run under the respective canopy rails, then down between the fuselage
side and the interior panel, then out through the fuselage side in the wing
root area.
>
>Similarly, the wiring for the comm antenna, transponder antenna, ELT control wires
(if installed) and beacon, plus the autopilot would be good candidates for
the 3a. route (which is not really available in center-stick planes). This
would also be the location of the wires from the trim on the stick to the trim
relays behind the seat, and for the coaxes for the remote gyro (mounted under
the console cover) and remote compass (mounted under the baggage floor) for my
EFIS.
>
>The flap control wires could also run through the 3a. path if the switch is on
the console, or alternately under the left rail if the switch is on the panel.
>
>
>Any comments about this routing plan?
>
>Andy Elliott, Mesa, AZ
>N601GE (reserved)
>601XL/TD/QB, Corvair, building...
>
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| Subject: | Re: Zenith-List:Cloverdale |
Dan
I plan to go there. Michael Heintz works out of there. Son of designer.
A very small operation out of the local airport.
I got my kit from there. Probably not worth a 300 mile trip however.
James Schultz
-----Original Message-----
From: engineerguy3737@yahoo.com
To: Zenith-List@matronics.com
Sent: Thu, 19 Apr 2007 1:33 PM
Subject: Zenith-List:Cloverdale
Is there anyone who is planning on going to the Cloverdale regional fly-in on
May 5th?
Dan Lykowski
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| Subject: | Re: RE: Spray foam insulation ... |
I would advise not to use foam. The expansion continues when the foam is nearly
solid. I am quite sure it would partially colapse the tank and bulge the wing
skin.
I have used it in other applications and was suprised to see expansion hours later.
James Schultz
601xl 65% 3300jab
no archive
-----Original Message-----
From: mbima@hydro.mb.ca
To: zenith-list@matronics.com
Sent: Thu, 19 Apr 2007 9:11 AM
Subject: Zenith-List: RE: Spray foam insulation ...
Although it is impervious to gasoline (I looked it up in chemistry
tables and performed experiments in the shop over 6 and 12 months), the
expanding foam does run away a bit when it expands. You can buy the
minimal expanding stuff, but it still expands.
I have abandoned the idea in favour of close-cell foam pipe insulation
(for 3/4" copper tubing - about 2" OD). This has a little bit of give
when installed, but most importantly, can be easily removed in case of a
tank leak. The spray foam sticks and would have to be chopped out.
Martin Bima
701 STOLVAIR
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John,
Thanks. Check is in the mail ....... really!
Rgds,
Mike.
************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.
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| Subject: | Zenith-List:Cloverdale |
One nice add-on to visiting QSP in Cloverdale is stopping at Dragonfly
Aviation in Santa Rosa and getting some flight time in their 601XL. It
wouldn't surprise me if Dragonfly was at the open house with their plane.
They were for the Jabiru FWF class last fall. Talk to Bob Archibald of
Dragonfly before hand and and you may be able to fly out of Cloverdale. I
did.
-- Craig
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