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1. 01:47 AM - Painting is done (Jonathan Starke)
2. 03:04 AM - Re: Painting is done (David Downey)
3. 03:48 AM - HomebuiltHelp Controls Video (rroberts)
4. 04:01 AM - Re: Painting is done (rroberts)
5. 05:26 AM - Re: 601XL nose gear (wade jones)
6. 05:46 AM - Re: Selling an Experimental (Dave Austin)
7. 06:06 AM - Re: Re: Selling an experimental a/c (William Dominguez)
8. 06:13 AM - Re: Re: Selling an experimental a/c ()
9. 06:37 AM - Re: Painting is done (LarryMcFarland)
10. 06:42 AM - Re: Brake cylinder locations (Gig Giacona)
11. 07:37 AM - Re: Re: Selling an experimental a/c (Bryan Martin)
12. 07:53 AM - Re: Selling an Experimental (Michael Valentine)
13. 07:58 AM - Re: Re: Selling an experimental a/c (Michael Valentine)
14. 08:17 AM - Selling Experimental (Problem Solved) (Zed Smith)
15. 08:22 AM - Re: selling an experimental a/c (Jim Norton)
16. 08:33 AM - Re: xxx Re: Selling an Experimental (John Bolding)
17. 08:37 AM - Re: selling an experimental a/c (Jim Norton)
18. 08:55 AM - Re: Selling Experimental (Problem Solved) ()
19. 09:07 AM - Re: xxx Re: Selling an Experimental (Art Gibeaut)
20. 09:10 AM - Re: xxx Re: Selling an Experimental (Bryan Martin)
21. 09:58 AM - Re: xxx Re: Selling an Experimental (Jim Hoak)
22. 11:34 AM - Re: 601XL nose gear (japhillipsga@aol.com)
23. 12:34 PM - Another firewall question (Lee Francke)
24. 12:46 PM - Re: Another firewall question (Bryan Martin)
25. 03:03 PM - Re: Painting is done (Tebenkof@aol.com)
26. 03:12 PM - Re: Painting is done (Tebenkof@aol.com)
27. 03:24 PM - .062 bends/Dave's brake (Bill Naumuk)
28. 04:27 PM - Re: Selling an Experimental (Noel Loveys)
29. 05:29 PM - Re: Another firewall question (Bill Steer)
30. 07:17 PM - Re: Painting is done (Christian Tremblay)
31. 09:11 PM - Re: Painting is done (Ron Lendon)
32. 09:35 PM - Re: .062 bends/Dave's brake (TxDave)
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| Subject: | Painting is done |
Hi all listers,
After a year of flying, 70+ hrs, I have painted my baby!
Take a look at the attached, I am very proud of her!
Thnx
Jonathan
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| Subject: | Re: Painting is done |
Beautiful plane Jonathon. Godspeed.
Jonathan Starke <jonathan@entry.co.za> wrote: Hi all listers,
After a year of flying, 70+ hrs, I have painted my baby!
Take a look at the attached, I am very proud of her!
Thnx
Jonathan
Dave Downey
Harleysville (SE) PA
Zodiac 601XL/Corvair?
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| Subject: | HomebuiltHelp Controls Video |
Got my CH701 Controls video in today. Nice job Jon ! !
What a resource for you guys lurking in the background trying to make decisions
on building or not; or if you're like me...building but stuck all the time.
These videos are invaluable in anyone's library.
(this was an unpaid plug..no modesty here folks.. :D )
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Low & Slow
Rick
www.n701rr.com
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| Subject: | Re: Painting is done |
Beautiful Jonathon .... well done !
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Low & Slow
Rick
www.n701rr.com
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| Subject: | Re: 601XL nose gear |
Thanks Bryan ,for your input .
Wade Jones South Texas
601XL plans building
Cont. 0200
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bryan Martin" <bryanmmartin@comcast.net>
Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2007 10:50 AM
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: 601XL nose gear
>
> I would think it would be better to pass it through holes. That way, even
> if the welds crack, your suspension won't collapse. This may or may not
> weaken the 2" tube slightly, but if that's the way it was designed, it
> probably isn't significant. I built mine from the kit so I don't recall
> how that part is assembled.
>
>
> On May 1, 2007, at 11:10 AM, wade jones wrote:
>
>> Hello group ,another question .When building the nose gear leg .In
>> attaching the 3/4" .035 tubes to the 2" leg I assume that a 3/4" hole
>> is drilled thru the 2" leg in two places and the tubes are welded
>> together .The reason for asking this question is I thought for strength
>> requirements these may be stubed on without drilling the 2" leg .Are
>> they stubbed on or do they go thru holes in the 2". Thanks
>
>
> --
> Bryan Martin
> N61BM, CH 601 XL,
> RAM Subaru, Stratus redrive.
> do not archive.
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Selling an Experimental |
Thanks to all respondents to my query, and to Joe for the suggested words
for an agreement.
Good to have the list and folks out there.
Dave Austin 601HDS - 912, Spitfire Mk VIII
Do not archive
----- Original Message -----
From: "Joe" <joe@kfiz.com>
Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2007 12:26 AM
Subject: Zenith-List: Selling an Experimental
>
> Dave,
>
>
> No matter how iron tight you have a resale agreement, they can still drag
> you into court and make your life miserable! I would love to know just how
> many homebuilt litigation problems ever make it to court. I know of a lot
> of friends that buy and sell homebuilts and factory builts and I have not
> personally seen any problems after the sale, but I'm sure there have been
> cases! I used this agreement when I sold a homebuilt a few years ago. It
> was written by a lawyer and I'm sure you may be able to pull out a few
> sentences and make your own.
>
>
> THIS AGREEMENT AND BILL OF SALE made and entered into this _______ day of
> March, 2000 at the Buyers residence in Oshkosh, Wisconsin by and between
> *********(seller), and
> _________________________________________________________ (Buyer), an
> adult residing at
> For and in consideration of $00000 dollars, receipt of which is
> acknowledged, seller does hereby sell and transfer unto Buyer, all Sellers
> right, title, and interest in the aircraft parts thereof, as registered
> with the Federal Aviation Administration, ******, model *******, together
> with such log books and other records in his possession, relating to said
> aircraft, disclaiming any liability for the completeness or the accuracy
> of any such logs or records. Said aircraft is without engine and the wings
> have been removed. The aircraft is not airworthy. To the best of Sellers
> knowledge, said aircraft is not subject to any security interest or other
> encumbrances.
>
> Buyer acknowledges that he is buying a homebuilt aircraft and that
> Buyer has inspected the aircraft, or has caused the same to be inspected,
> and accepts same in its present as is, where is condition. Buyer shall be
> responsible for the removal of the aircraft from seller's premises.
>
> Buyer acknowledges that Seller is the registered owner, and Seller
> makes absolutely no representations, promises, statements, or warranties,
> expressed or implied, with respect to the registration, fitness of the
> aircraft, or any other condition whatsoever, and Seller shall not be
> liable to the buyer for any loss, claim, demand, liability, cost, damage,
> or expense of any kind caused by or alleged to be caused, directly or
> indirectly, or arising out of Buyers possession or use of the aircraft or
> the transportation thereof, or any inadequacy or any defect in such
> aircraft, or any damage, whatsoever or howsoever caused, and Buyer agrees
> to indemnify and hold the seller harmless from and against any and all
> such losses, claims, demands, liabilities, from the sale, use, or
> transportation of said Aircraft.
>
> It is further agreed that Buyer shall be responsible for the
> registration (including fees) of said aircraft as required by the Federal
> Aviation Administration, and by the State of ******, Department of
> Transportation, Bureau of Aeronautics.
>
> Hope this helps!
>
> Joe in Oshkosh
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Selling an experimental a/c |
Ive always wondered the same thing. Regular people tend to overestimate
the risk of being sued. The vast majority of law suits are corporation
against corporation followed by individuals against corporations. It is my understanding
that individual against individual are rare unless the defendant happens
to be very wealthy.
Unless you are very wealthy the chances of being sued are not as high
as people believe, unless the plaintiff is looking for something other than
money or assets.
Still, it is a good idea to get a release form signed by the
buyer because this could work as a deterrent to any family member who might be
thinking of suing, but the best deterrent is for the others to know you are
not wealthy enough to bother, if you were, you wouldve been selling a Cessna
Citation.
William Dominguez
Zodiac 601XL Plans
Miami, Florida
This is always an interesting subject when it comes up, but I have to wonder
how much of a "real" issue it is. While I agree there is always a risk, have
there been any large settlements based on the sale of an experimental?
There sure to seem to be plenty of experimentals that change hands on a regular
basis, but I can't recall reading any real litigation around it.
I would think some of these would have shown up in one of the flying mags at least
as an editorial at some point. Have I just missed them?
Of course, I definitely suffer from that "not a big enough target" syndrome so
I probably wouldn't worry if I needed to sell.
Mitch Hodges
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N601MH (Zenith 601HDS)
Wings Under Construction
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| Subject: | Re: Selling an experimental a/c |
That's an idea worth looking into, particularly if you feel you are an enticing
target for the unscrupulous plaintif.
Regarding malpractice insurance, some policies are written to cover the practicioner
only for a claim filed during the year that the policy is in force. When
the doctor retires (comparable to selling the airplane) he can buy a "tail policy"
which picks up any claims that arise from the effective date on...... forever.
I wonder if there is a liability policy available for the seller of an
EXP AB. Then again, the presence of the policy might be just enough bait to attract
scavengers. Who knows?
Dred
Do Not Archive
---- Juan Vega <amyvega2005@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
> to all,
> build the plane, fly the crap out of it, then sell it when you need to, cover
your ass with the right documentation, there is even coverage you can buy. thats
it, move on.
>
> Juan
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| Subject: | Re: Painting is done |
Really nice looking Jonathan!
Well done.
Larry McFarland 601HDS at www.macsmachine.com
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Jonathan Starke wrote:
> Hi all listers,
>
> After a year of flying, 70+ hrs, I have painted my baby!
>
> Take a look at the attached, I am very proud of her!
>
> Thnx
> Jonathan
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>
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>
Re
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| Subject: | Re: Brake cylinder locations |
Seems like it could result in some uneven braking.
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W.R. "Gig" Giacona
601XL Under Construction
See my progress at www.peoamerica.net/N601WR
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| Subject: | Re: Selling an experimental a/c |
A generous insurance policy will make you a tempting target for a law
suit. Unless you have lots of assets to protect, an insurance policy
is probably a bad idea.
On May 2, 2007, at 9:13 AM, <dredmoody@cox.net> <dredmoody@cox.net>
wrote:
>
> That's an idea worth looking into, particularly if you feel you are
> an enticing target for the unscrupulous plaintif.
>
> Regarding malpractice insurance, some policies are written to cover
> the practicioner only for a claim filed during the year that the
> policy is in force. When the doctor retires (comparable to selling
> the airplane) he can buy a "tail policy" which picks up any claims
> that arise from the effective date on...... forever. I wonder if
> there is a liability policy available for the seller of an EXP AB.
> Then again, the presence of the policy might be just enough bait to
> attract scavengers. Who knows?
>
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Bryan Martin
N61BM, CH 601 XL,
RAM Subaru, Stratus redrive.
do not archive.
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| Subject: | Re: Selling an Experimental |
On 5/2/07, Joe <joe@kfiz.com> wrote:
>
>>>>I would love to know just how many homebuilt litigation problems ever
make it to court.
Though not a perfect answer to this question by any means, a quick search of
Lexis (a database of legal decisions) reveals 0 (as in none) court decisions
relating to someone suing the builder/seller of an experimental aircraft.
Caveat - these are only reported decisions - plenty of cases could have been
filed in lower courts where decisions are not reported or cases could have
settled out of court. But, this does appear to be one area where one's fear
of the risk is greatly disproporionate to the actual risk.
Best bet - put together a good sales contract; include all of the elements
about the risks invovled; include indemnification, which means that in the
contract they agree to pay any claims made by third parties against you as
the seller; and, include an attorney's fees provision. Use a lawyer (even
if you don't like lawyers in general). Most people love their own lawyer,
they just hate everyone else's lawyer.
Also, get insurance. It is better to buy a liability insurance policy than
to take the trampoline away from the kids because you are scared of the
neighbor suing you. Just make sure the policy would cover this kind of
thing (whether you can find such a thing, I don't really know)!
Happy building, flying, and, if necessary, tearfully selling your airplane.
Michael in NH
p.s. I hate stupid disclaimers, but I will mention that I am an attorney,
though I don't practice in any of the areas I have just discssused. I only
put people in jail. You would be an idiot to rely on legal advice posted on
ther internet by some yahoo you don't even know. I can hear it now, "But
Judge, 'Michael in NH' said in an email on the internet on this airplane
builder listserve that I could do this." Good luck with that. If you do
take my advice and it fails and you get sued and you didn't bother getting
an attorney to advise you directly on the sale, tough. Plus, if you sue me
over my advice, you are no better than the greedy a**hole suing you for
selling his/her mother/father/soulmate a deathtrap.
p.p.s. I think I am going to vote to archive this one so that I can find it
when you sue me.
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| Subject: | Re: Selling an experimental a/c |
Do you carry liability insurance on your plane?
As my post moments ago shows, I disagree that a healthy insurance poilcy is
bad. One major benefit of a proper insurance policy that covers the
situation is that they pay the defense costs. Plus, any assets you do have
are going to feel like plenty if someone sues you and wants to take them
away.
do not archive
On 5/2/07, Bryan Martin <bryanmmartin@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>
> A generous insurance policy will make you a tempting target for a law
> suit. Unless you have lots of assets to protect, an insurance policy
> is probably a bad idea.
>
> On May 2, 2007, at 9:13 AM, <dredmoody@cox.net> <dredmoody@cox.net>
> wrote:
>
>
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| Subject: | Selling Experimental (Problem Solved) |
Call one of those late-night TV second-mortgage outfits.
Get a loan against the airplane, pocket the money, don't make note payments, let
the bank repo the airplane.
You get your money, they get the airplane. Let 'em sue!
Declare bankruptcy, live off credit cards and welfare; hey, that's the American
way!
do NOT archive!!!
Regards to all,
Zed
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| Subject: | RE: selling an experimental a/c |
Beating a dead horse to death...
Sometimes its not the injured party that initiates the law suit,
sometimes its the insurance company that has to pay out benefits. In
New Jersey (one of the most litigious states) my best friend's son broke
his leg on the neighbor's swing set. This was 12 years ago and was
simply a children's accident with no blame what-so-ever. The broken leg
healed in about 8 weeks with no complication. The insurance company
which was to pay the hospital benefits sued the neighbor on behalf of
the minor and won a huge settlement of which $35,000 went to the now
adult boy. My best friend was totally opposed to suing his neighbor,
but he actually had no say in the law suit. Now, there may be more
information of which I am not aware, but it seems to me that the
insurance company made out like a bandit. By the way, the law suit
lasted for about 8 years with both neighbors and their kids being
repeatedly dragged into court to testify (not fun).
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| Subject: | Re: Selling an Experimental |
This hasn't been something I've kept up with over the last 30 odd yrs
but only 2 come to mind, Rutan and Wayne Ison.
don't remember ANYTHING about Rutan but Ison lost the rights to the
Airbike/ Tandem Airbike to some jerk that sued him 3-4 times 'till Wayne
didn't defend himself and the guy got a judgment against him after
losing all the previous trials.
I'm wondering how someone would be able to know that you had a
liability policy in effect, making you a better target?? LOW&SLOW John
Bolding
----- Original Message -----
From: Michael Valentine
To: zenith-list@matronics.com
Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2007 9:52 AM
Subject: xxx Re: Zenith-List: Selling an Experimental
On 5/2/07, Joe <joe@kfiz.com> wrote:
>>>>I would love to know just how many homebuilt litigation problems
ever make it to court.
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| Subject: | Re: selling an experimental a/c |
Although there may be no problem to date with lawsuits dealing with the
selling of experimental a/c, all it takes is one successful lawsuit and
then the flood gates are open for lawsuits concerning all aircraft which
had been previously sold. All this means is that no precedent has been
set and we don't know what could happen concerning lawsuits.
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| Subject: | Re: Selling Experimental (Problem Solved) |
I was with you right up to the welfare part. I liked shooting plaintiffs better.
Dred
---- Zed Smith <zsmith3rd@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
> Call one of those late-night TV second-mortgage outfits.
> Get a loan against the airplane, pocket the money, don't make note payments,
let the bank repo the airplane.
> You get your money, they get the airplane. Let 'em sue!
> Declare bankruptcy, live off credit cards and welfare; hey, that's the American
way!
> do NOT archive!!!
>
> Regards to all,
>
> Zed
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Selling an Experimental |
The knowledge that you have a Liability Policy will
come out quickly in discovery.
Do not archive
--- John Bolding <jnbolding1@teleshare.net> wrote:
> This hasn't been something I've kept up with over
> the last 30 odd yrs but only 2 come to mind, Rutan
> and Wayne Ison.
> don't remember ANYTHING about Rutan but Ison lost
> the rights to the Airbike/ Tandem Airbike to some
> jerk that sued him 3-4 times 'till Wayne didn't
> defend himself and the guy got a judgment against
> him after losing all the previous trials.
>
> I'm wondering how someone would be able to know
> that you had a liability policy in effect, making
> you a better target?? LOW&SLOW John Bolding
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Michael Valentine
> To: zenith-list@matronics.com
> Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2007 9:52 AM
> Subject: xxx Re: Zenith-List: Selling an
> Experimental
>
>
> On 5/2/07, Joe <joe@kfiz.com> wrote:
> <joe@kfiz.com>
> >>>>I would love to know just how many homebuilt
> litigation problems ever make it to court.
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Selling an Experimental |
If I recall correctly, in the Ison case, the lawyers kept demanding
his insurance information and just couldn't believe he had no
insurance. The plaintiff got the company, but since it was broke at
the time, he didn't get much of anything but the name.
On May 2, 2007, at 11:32 AM, John Bolding wrote:
> This hasn't been something I've kept up with over the last 30 odd
> yrs but only 2 come to mind, Rutan and Wayne Ison.
> don't remember ANYTHING about Rutan but Ison lost the rights to the
> Airbike/ Tandem Airbike to some jerk that sued him 3-4 times 'till
> Wayne didn't defend himself and the guy got a judgment against him
> after losing all the previous trials.
>
> I'm wondering how someone would be able to know that you had a
> liability policy in effect, making you a better target?
--
Bryan Martin
N61BM, CH 601 XL,
RAM Subaru, Stratus redrive.
do not archive.
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| Subject: | Re: Selling an Experimental |
Bryan and John,
You're right about Wayne Ison. We were loose partners in the PDQ days ( all
based on a handshake ). I asked him then how he handled liability. He said
everything is in XXXXX's ( his wife - I'll not mention her name ) name. "I
rent or lease everything and carry no insurance. If someone sues me I'll
hand them the key and they'll get nothing" That's how it basically ended up.
He told the guys lawyer, who finally won, that when you come to pick
everything all you'll need is a pick up truck; a small one at that.
do not archive
Jim Hoak
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bryan Martin" <bryanmmartin@comcast.net>
Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2007 11:10 AM
Subject: Re: xxx Re: Zenith-List: Selling an Experimental
>
> If I recall correctly, in the Ison case, the lawyers kept demanding his
> insurance information and just couldn't believe he had no insurance. The
> plaintiff got the company, but since it was broke at the time, he didn't
> get much of anything but the name.
>
> On May 2, 2007, at 11:32 AM, John Bolding wrote:
>
>> This hasn't been something I've kept up with over the last 30 odd yrs
>> but only 2 come to mind, Rutan and Wayne Ison.
>> don't remember ANYTHING about Rutan but Ison lost the rights to the
>> Airbike/ Tandem Airbike to some jerk that sued him 3-4 times 'till Wayne
>> didn't defend himself and the guy got a judgment against him after
>> losing all the previous trials.
>>
>> I'm wondering how someone would be able to know that you had a
>> liability policy in effect, making you a better target?
>
>
> --
> Bryan Martin
> N61BM, CH 601 XL,
> RAM Subaru, Stratus redrive.
> do not archive.
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: 601XL nose gear |
It might be wise to contact the folks at ZAC for info on which method they used
to attach the cross pipe.
do not archive
-----Original Message-----
From: wjones@brazoriainet.com
Sent: Wed, 2 May 2007 8:24 AM
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: 601XL nose gear
Thanks Bryan ,for your input .
Wade Jones South Texas
601XL plans building
Cont. 0200
----- Original Message ----- From: "Bryan Martin" <bryanmmartin@comcast.net>
Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2007 10:50 AM
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: 601XL nose gear
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> I would think it would be better to pass it through holes. That way, even > if
the welds crack, your suspension won't collapse. This may or may not > weaken
the 2" tube slightly, but if that's the way it was designed, it > probably isn't
significant. I built mine from the kit so I don't recall > how that part
is assembled.
>
>
> On May 1, 2007, at 11:10 AM, wade jones wrote:
>
>> Hello group ,another question .When building the nose gear leg .In >> attaching
the 3/4" .035 tubes to the 2" leg I assume that a 3/4" hole >> is drilled
thru the 2" leg in two places and the tubes are welded >> together .The reason
for asking this question is I thought for strength >> requirements these may
be stubed on without drilling the 2" leg .Are >> they stubbed on or do they go
thru holes in the 2". Thanks
>
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> -- > Bryan Martin
> N61BM, CH 601 XL,
> RAM Subaru, Stratus redrive.
> do not archive.
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| Subject: | Another firewall question |
What have others used to seal around the firewall (between the skin and firewall)?
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| Subject: | Re: Another firewall question |
I used orange high-temp RTV.
On May 2, 2007, at 3:33 PM, Lee Francke wrote:
> <mlfrancke@charter.net>
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> What have others used to seal around the firewall (between the skin
> and firewall)?
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Bryan Martin
N61BM, CH 601 XL,
RAM Subaru, Stratus redrive.
do not archive.
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| Subject: | Re: Painting is done |
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| Subject: | Re: Painting is done |
Just meant to say that is a beautiful paint job. It is also encouraging to
know you really can get to that job after a year of flying. Good work.
Jim G.
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| Subject: | .062 bends/Dave's brake |
All-
Had to make my upper nose strut bearing twice, and damned near
trashed my Dave's brake. Mean 'ol mother physics.
I was worried about the blank shifting back, so put the long side of
the piece under the hold-down angle. WRONG! Didn't pop the hinge rivets,
but put a kink in the hinge. I can fix it without major difficulty.
When bending the heavy stuff, leave the long end out for additional
leverage.
Bill Naumuk
HDS Fuse/Corvair
Townville, Pa
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| Subject: | Re: Selling an Experimental |
There is one way to sell a plane without worrying about litigation and
that
is to have your estate do it. Seriously, I think it's about time people
on
both sides of the 49th take responsibility for their actions and save
the
law suit for those who have actually done us harm.
Consider the fact of a fellow who sells a plane to a friend who flies it
for
several years. Then the friend wants a bigger plane so it is resold,
again
and again until it ends up decades later training students in backwash
USA.
Some student didn't get the idea of flying right and the last thing he
ever
did was to try to plough the back forty with the nose of the plane. His
family then reverts to suing the original builder of the plane some
thirty
years earlier. Over the last thirty years that person has made himself
quite wealthy and lost the whole ball of wax on this old plane that he
would
never have sold for flight training. Worse than that the flight school
decides they can fix the plane for less than the cost of replacement so
the
possibility of further litigation exists..
The only two answers are; to store the plane and let your heirs sell it
when
the time comes. Then the litigators can come looking for you in the
sweet
bye and bye or the warmer spot. You could de-register and disassemble
the
plane and sell it as parts. Carefully disassembled an individual could
buy
all the parts and build, going through all the inspections and register
as a
new plane.
My own plane, a Kitfox was built by a family friend who died several
years
ago (Aneurysm). I feel pretty safe in the knowledge that while I fly it
I'm
the one responsible for my safety. If I sell the plane the buyer will
assume the responsibility for his own safety and not go looking for a
windfall from our friend.
Noel Loveys, RPP, AME intern
Campbellton, Newfoundland,
Canada
Kitfox Mod III-A, 582, B box, Ivo IFA
Aerocet 1100s
<mailto:noelloveys@yahoo.ca> noelloveys@yahoo.ca
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| Subject: | Re: Another firewall question |
I used high temperature RTV - the red stuff. I'd seen a reference to it
on the list, so you may be able to find something in the archives.
Bill
> What have others used to seal around the firewall (between the skin and firewall)?
>
>
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| Subject: | Painting is done |
Hi Jonathan,
Very nice job ! You are right to be proud
Motivating other builders .
Christian Tremblay
A guy who build a CH640 aircraft from plan
http://www.zodiac640.com/
-----Message d'origine-----
De: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] De la part de Jonathan
Starke
Envoy: Wednesday, May 02, 2007 4:46 AM
: zenith-list@matronics.com
Objet: Zenith-List: Painting is done
Hi all listers,
After a year of flying, 70+ hrs, I have painted my baby!
Take a look at the attached, I am very proud of her!
Thnx
Jonathan
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| Subject: | Re: Painting is done |
Beautiful Plane.
Thanks for the motivation.
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Ron Lendon, Clinton Township, MI
Corvair Zodiac XL, ScrapBuilder ;-)
http://www.mykitlog.com/rlendon
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| Subject: | Re: .062 bends/Dave's brake |
Bending anything up to and including .040 is not a problem. Trying to bend .063
is pushing it. Fortunately there aren't too many .063 parts to bend.
Dave Clay
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