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1. 07:47 AM - Re: Brake cylinder locations (N601RT)
2. 08:51 AM - Re: Re: Brake cylinder locations (Carlos Sa)
3. 08:51 AM - Re: Brake cylinder locations (rickpitcher)
4. 09:02 AM - Purchase of experimental plane. (Robert Schoenberger)
5. 09:41 AM - Re: Purchase of experimental plane. (Randy L. Thwing)
6. 10:14 AM - Re: Another firewall question (N601RT)
7. 12:37 PM - Re: Re: Brake cylinder locations (David Downey)
8. 02:15 PM - EFIS (hansriet)
9. 02:49 PM - Re: EFIS ()
10. 03:03 PM - Re: Re: .062 bends/Dave's brake (Bill Naumuk)
11. 03:03 PM - Re: EFIS (LarryMcFarland)
12. 03:18 PM - Re: xxx EFIS (John Bolding)
13. 04:42 PM - hole flanging (Jerry Hey)
14. 04:53 PM - Not Zenith but aviation related (Paul Riedlinger)
15. 05:03 PM - Re: xxx EFIS (Juan Vega)
16. 06:01 PM - 801 Spinners (squiggles)
17. 06:09 PM - Re:hole flanging (MaxNr@aol.com)
18. 06:14 PM - Re: 801 Spinners (Aaron Gustafson)
19. 06:16 PM - Re: Not Zenith but aviation related (Dino Bortolin)
20. 06:33 PM - Re: Re:hole flanging (Carlos Sa)
21. 06:49 PM - Re:EFIS (MaxNr@aol.com)
22. 06:50 PM - Re: 801 Spinners (rroberts)
23. 07:14 PM - Re: 801 Spinners (LRM)
24. 07:26 PM - Re: Re:hole flanging (kevinbonds)
25. 07:27 PM - Re: hole flanging (Paul Mulwitz)
26. 07:27 PM - Re: Re:EFIS (Craig Payne)
27. 07:45 PM - Re: EFIS (Paul Mulwitz)
28. 07:54 PM - Re: xxx EFIS (Tim Juhl)
29. 08:49 PM - Re: Painting is done (Milburn Reed)
30. 11:27 PM - MGL's Enigma EFIS (Craig Payne)
31. 11:27 PM - MGL's Enigma EFIS (Craig Payne)
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| Subject: | Re: Brake cylinder locations |
Andy,
Brake cylinders with the fluid reserve on the inside rudder pedals feeding brake
cylinders without the fluid reserve on the outside rudder pedals has been working
fine for the four years N601RT has been flying. Since both master cylinders
have the same bore, the pressure generated from the cylinder is the same with
or without the built in fluid reserve. This configuration allows more direct
and shorter brake line routing.
Regards
Roy
N601RT: CH601HDS, nose gear, Rotax 912ULS, All electric, IFR equipped, 710hrs,
837 landings
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| Subject: | Re: Brake cylinder locations |
*Sounds like a good idea. Have you verified with ZAC?
Carlos
CH601-HD, plans
Montreal, Canada
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Does anyone see anything wrong with putting the master cylinders on the
inboard pedals and the slave cylinders on the outboard pedals? Each pilot
position would have one master and one slave cylinder, instead of putting
the masters on one side and the slaves on the other.
** Thanks,
Andy Elliott, Mesa, AZ
N601GE (reserved)
601XL/TD/QB, Corvair, building... *
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| Subject: | Re: Brake cylinder locations |
[quote="a.s.elliott(at)cox.net"]Gang:
Because of the way my gun-drilled Grove gear is set up, it would be a much cleaner
installation if the right brake line came from the co-pilot side right
pedal and the left brake line from the pilot side left pedal.
Does anyone see anything wrong with putting the master cylinders on the inboard
pedals and the slave cylinders on the outboard pedals? Each pilot position
would have one master and one slave cylinder, instead of putting the masters
on one side and the slaves on the other.
Thanks,
Andy Elliott, Mesa, AZ
N601GE (reserved)
601XL/TD/QB, Corvair, building...
> [b]
If you haven't already bought the master cylinders with the built-in reservoir
(MCMC-5?), you might want to consider using a single remote reservoir and installing
the "slave cylinders" (MCMC-4?) on all 4 pedals. It takes a couple more
pieces of plastic tubing, but it's a helluva lot easier to check and fill.
Besides, that brushed aluminum Matco remote reservoir filled with bright red hydraulic
fluid looks really cool on the firewall!
http://www.matcomfg.com/catalog/index.php?file=catalog&prod_pcategory=66040&clist=0,66040&uid=2192&gpoid
Rick
601HD
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| Subject: | Purchase of experimental plane. |
I agree that the lawsuit situation in the US has become ridiculous. I
wish that there was some provision where is the frivilous lawsuit fails
the person suing would have to pay the defendent's legal expenses. That
would stop a lot of this lawsuits.
As to the sale of a plane, I am considering the purchase of a built
unltralite to fly while I'm building my 701. I called my accountant
who's a pretty sharp guy and asked if I should purchase it under my own
name or in the LLC which I own and use for business. He said neither
and advised me to form a LLC (Limited Liabilty Corp) for the sole
purpose of owning this plane. In his opinion, if something dastardly
happens like an incident, this should give a pretty good degree of
protection. This doesn't help much with the sale of a plane, but it's an
interesting twist. I wonder what would happen if one would sell his
plane to an LLC which in turn sells it to the buyer. Remember this
advice might not be worth more than you're paying for it. Robert
Schoenberger 701 55%. do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: Purchase of experimental plane. |
The lawsuit situation in the US has become indeed, ridiculous.
The fear of lawsuit situation has become unrealistically MEGA-ULTRA-SUPER
ridiculous.
Randy L. Thwing, Las Vegas do not archive
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> I agree that the lawsuit situation in the US has become ridiculous. I
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| Subject: | Re: Another firewall question |
Van's sells a firewall sealant, http://www.vansaircraft.com/cgi-bin/catalog.cgi?ident=1178211813-272-15&browse=misc&product=cs1900.
I used 3M Fire Barrier 2000. See http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/appages/firewall2000caulk.php
Regards,
Roy
N601RT: CH601HDS, nose gear, Rotax 912ULS, All electric, IFR equipped, 710hrs,
837 landings
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| Subject: | Re: Brake cylinder locations |
I can only see one possible issue with the proposed plan. Unless someone flies
in the right seat and uses the brakes with some frequency I can see that teh brake
refilled from the master on the passenger's side might get soft.
Carlos Sa <carlossa52@gmail.com> wrote:
Sounds like a good idea. Have you verified with ZAC?
Carlos
CH601-HD, plans
Montreal, Canada
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Does anyone see anything wrong with putting the master cylinders on the inboard
pedals and the slave cylinders on the outboard pedals? Each pilot position would
have one master and one slave cylinder, instead of putting the masters on
one side and the slaves on the other.
Thanks,
Andy Elliott, Mesa, AZ
N601GE (reserved)
601XL/TD/QB, Corvair, building...
Dave Downey
Harleysville (SE) PA
Zodiac 601XL/Corvair?
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Check outnew cars at Yahoo! Autos.
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Is there anybody who is going to install or who installed already an EFIS (like
the Dynon) without an analogue backup of primairy flight instruments?
I see the advantage (financially as well as for panel real estate) of having an
EFIS that's all in one and that includes an HSI. But if you have to install analogue
instruments as well that kind of defeats the purpose, doesn't it?
I would like to hear your thoughts on this.
Hans van Riet
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Hello Hans,
My 601XL is not flying yet...... it will probably fly late this year, so the
question and my answer are still academic rather than experience based.
With that disclaimer, I am using two AF-3400 units from Advanced Flight Systems;
one is the EFIS and the other is the EIS. I have put a steam gauge ASI in
my panel (2.25" from UMA) as a backup. I have also installed a Tiny Tach to backup
the Tach display. My gps provides a backup display of ALT.
I figure that if the EFIS goes dark on me, I want Tach and ASI to get down safely
with confidence. If the aircraft electrical system is still working and
the weather is good I may even decide to complete the flight to the original destination
with the ALT info from the gps.
I am not planning on adding backup gyro instruments since the plane is for VFR
Cross Country. If you plan to certify yours for IFR, you may need the back
up gyros.
Dred
---- hansriet <hansinla@mac.com> wrote:
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> Is there anybody who is going to install or who installed already an EFIS (like
the Dynon) without an analogue backup of primairy flight instruments?
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> I see the advantage (financially as well as for panel real estate) of having
an EFIS that's all in one and that includes an HSI. But if you have to install
analogue instruments as well that kind of defeats the purpose, doesn't it?
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> I would like to hear your thoughts on this.
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> Hans van Riet
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| Subject: | Re: .062 bends/Dave's brake |
Dave-
The piece was small (Upper gear bearing) and I located the part next to
a hold-down bolt. What I was worried about was the part sliding through the
hold-down angle because it was relying on the one bolt. Turns out that
slipping wasn't a problem, leverage was. Too much to ask of the hinge when
you only have 20mm bend surface. Turn the part around to where you have
about 100mm, and no problem.
No way would you be able to bend a really large piece, but the second
time around I didn't do any damage to the hinge.
I have access to smack the bent part of the hinge in place without
taking the pin out again, so no big deal. If I don't screw up any more kit
parts, all I have left is maybe a couple of standard L angles. I figure it
this way, it cost me less than $20.00 to build the brake. The two parts I've
already made would have cost over $100 with shipping. I'm not complaining.
Bill Naumuk
HDS Fuse/Corvair
Townville, Pa
----- Original Message -----
From: "TxDave" <dclaytx2@HOTMAIL.COM>
Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2007 12:34 AM
Subject: Zenith-List: Re: .062 bends/Dave's brake
>
> Bending anything up to and including .040 is not a problem. Trying to bend
> .063 is pushing it. Fortunately there aren't too many .063 parts to bend.
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> Dave Clay
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Hans,
You make a very good point. For instrument flying the argument wouldnt
apply, but as a VFR experimental, you could very well install an Engine
Information System and an EFIS as your primary instrument groups and
forgo all but perhaps a compass and a lift reserve indicator. The weak
link here is obvious that any one component can fail all and youd be
looking at possibly a larger replacement or repair cost. If I had
do-overs, Id have left all the expensive not so durable round gages
off the panel. My EIS has been the easiest and least costly item to
install. The tachometer was replaced once at $100.00, the electric T&B
has been in and out twice at $250.00, so an EFIS is looking pretty good.
Larry McFarland 601HDS at www.macsmachine.com <http://www.macsmachine.com/>
hansriet wrote:
>
> Is there anybody who is going to install or who installed already an EFIS (like
the Dynon) without an analogue backup of primairy flight instruments?
>
> I see the advantage (financially as well as for panel real estate) of having
an EFIS that's all in one and that includes an HSI. But if you have to install
analogue instruments as well that kind of defeats the purpose, doesn't it?
>
> I would like to hear your thoughts on this.
>
> Hans van Riet
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Is there anybody who is going to install or who installed already an
EFIS (like the Dynon) without an analogue backup of primairy flight
instruments?
I will have no analog inst. , gonna have the Dynon , prolly the small
one, MAYBE one for the copilot.. Mine is for cost AND primarily weight
savings. Can leave several POUNDS at the curb.
There are those that prefer to have redundant everything however. The
older I get and the more I fly, the simplier I like my airplanes. My
Champ has 4 instruments and the only two I look at really are the oil
temp and pressure. That airplane has almost 5000 hrs and has been all
over the U.S. MANY times. There WILL be differing ideas on this
however.
John
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Does the 2 roller hole flanger sold by ACS work well? Or what is
the best way to flange lightening holes? Thanks, Jerry
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| Subject: | Not Zenith but aviation related |
In the workshop, I love to listen to various Podcasts in the background.
Today I found my first aviation related podcast.
http://thefinerpoints.net/podcast/?Podcasts=all
It is a series of 73 (so far) 5-10 minute podcasts put out by a CFI. Really
entertaining.
Anyone else have any other aviation related podcasts to recommend?
Paul Riedlinger
paulried@rogers.com
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i have the dynon efis and ems, with no backups. I have both under 4 hour battery
backup. strictly VFR.
Juan
-----Original Message-----
>From: John Bolding <jnbolding1@teleshare.net>
>Sent: May 3, 2007 3:15 PM
>To: zenith-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Re: xxx Zenith-List: EFIS
>
>
> Is there anybody who is going to install or who installed already an EFIS (like
the Dynon) without an analogue backup of primairy flight instruments?
>
>
> I will have no analog inst. , gonna have the Dynon , prolly the small one,
MAYBE one for the copilot.. Mine is for cost AND primarily weight savings. Can
leave several POUNDS at the curb.
> There are those that prefer to have redundant everything however. The older
I get and the more I fly, the simplier I like my airplanes. My Champ has 4 instruments
and the only two I look at really are the oil temp and pressure. That
airplane has almost 5000 hrs and has been all over the U.S. MANY times. There
WILL be differing ideas on this however.
> John
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Hello All...
I am finally reaching the point of needing to purchase a spinner for my 801 in
preparation of making the cowl this summer. I tried contacting UHS Spinners,
but have been unable to get them to reply to my queries.
For a 3 blade IVO magnum on an SAE 1 hub, what are the possible options for purchase?
Ideally, I'd like to purchase one which is already cut out...
Any recommendations?
Thx...
-Scott
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| Subject: | Re:hole flanging |
I saw a hole flanger on the US Industrial Tool Co. print ad in Trade A Plane.
It looked like a metal arm with two rollers. How in the world do you use it?
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Bob Dingley
Pace,FL 601XL/LYC
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| Subject: | Re: 801 Spinners |
My guess is you won't find one already cut for an IVO. There're not that bad
to cut though. I've done 2 now, one for an IVO Medium 3 blade and now one
for a McCauley. Got mine through ACS.
Aaron do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: Not Zenith but aviation related |
I listen to http://www.ultraflightradio.com/ You can listen live to the
news ones that come out every Tuesday morning, or to their archives.
Dino Bortolin
On 5/3/07, Paul Riedlinger <paulried@rogers.com> wrote:
>
> In the workshop, I love to listen to various Podcasts in the background.
> Today I found my first aviation related podcast.
>
> http://thefinerpoints.net/podcast/?Podcasts=all
>
> It is a series of 73 (so far) 5-10 minute podcasts put out by a CFI.
> Really entertaining.
>
> Anyone else have any other aviation related podcasts to recommend?
>
>
> Paul Riedlinger
> paulried@rogers.com
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| Subject: | Re:hole flanging |
Bob, I bought one of those tools.
It consists of two wheels with bearings exactly the type you see in shower
doors - not exactly heavy duty - attached to a handle.
I replaced the two wheels with regular bearings I bought locally.
The result depends a lot on the hability and patience of the tool operator.
Some people love it.
Myself, well, not so much. I think the best way is to use dies.
There must be a lot of posting on this subject in the archives.
Good luck
Carlos
CH601-HD, plans
On 03/05/07, MaxNr@aol.com <MaxNr@aol.com> wrote:
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> I saw a hole flanger on the US Industrial Tool Co. print ad in Trade A
> Plane. It looked like a metal arm with two rollers. How in the world do you
> use it?
> Do not archive
>
> Bob Dingley
> Pace,FL 601XL/LYC
>
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I am interested in the DYNON FlightDEK 180 but the Stratomaster Enigma is
coming on strong. Because my project is day/night VFR I don't realy need backups.
But I do want back up oil pressure, ASI and altimeter steam gauges with a
simple glue on skid indicator. These would be the cheapest, non TSO'ed used
gauges that I can find. My reasoning is I would have dispatch capability if the
Dynon went black away from home. Gauges would be on the copilot's side.
The last year and half before retirement was with a Honeywell glass cockpit
and I was the grumpy old ***** that only watched the standby steam gauges
during critical stages of flight, then transitioned to the glass on climb out.
I
got more accepting after about 600-800 hours.
My hope is that there is a lot of chatter about this because I respect all
your opinions and my mind is still open.
Do not archive
Bob Dingley
601XL/Lyc
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| Subject: | Re: 801 Spinners |
I got a UHS for my IVO through Aircraft Spruce.
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Low & Slow
Rick
www.n701rr.com
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| Subject: | Re: 801 Spinners |
UHS thru AirCraft Spruce has a 6+ week wait time. But they will cut them
for you. I found Valley Engineering to have the best prices for an aluminum
spinner, but you gotta cut'm. I think it was around $85 including the
bulkhead. It's not that hard to cut it out, make a cardboard cutout first.
I had a machine shop cut out my SAE1 holes or you can get a squash plate to
use for a pattern. You will have to have the plate anyway. Larry, N1345L,
www.skyhawg.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "squiggles" <squiggles@yahoo.com>
Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2007 8:00 PM
Subject: Zenith-List: 801 Spinners
>
> Hello All...
>
> I am finally reaching the point of needing to purchase a spinner for my
> 801 in preparation of making the cowl this summer. I tried contacting UHS
> Spinners, but have been unable to get them to reply to my queries.
>
> For a 3 blade IVO magnum on an SAE 1 hub, what are the possible options
> for purchase? Ideally, I'd like to purchase one which is already cut
> out...
>
> Any recommendations?
>
> Thx...
> -Scott
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=110698#110698
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> 2:57 PM
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| Subject: | Re:hole flanging |
I have one, and I don't know how it works. The little I've tried to use it,
it didn't seem to work for me, but I may be doing something wrong.
Kevin Bonds
Nashville TN
601XL Plans building.
http://home.comcast.net/~kevinbonds
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[mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of MaxNr@aol.com
Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2007 8:09 PM
Subject: Zenith-List: Re:hole flanging
I saw a hole flanger on the US Industrial Tool Co. print ad in Trade A
Plane. It looked like a metal arm with two rollers. How in the world do you
use it?
Do not archive
Bob Dingley
Pace,FL 601XL/LYC
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| Subject: | Re: hole flanging |
My preferred tool is one you can make in a minute or two with a
piece of plywood and a bandsaw. You cut a slot about 1/2" deep and
about 1/2" from the end of the stick. You then cut the circle in the
sheet metal and use the stick to bend the flange by going around the
circle a few times until you are happy with the bends.
I know this is low tech, but it works better than any of the methods
I have tried.
Paul
XL fuselage
At 04:41 PM 5/3/2007, you wrote:
>
>Does the 2 roller hole flanger sold by ACS work well? Or what is
>the best way to flange lightening holes? Thanks, Jerry
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I have an Enigma but I am not flying yet. I'm backing it up with an MGL
Flight II. I bought a glass panel to get away from mechanical gauges, why
would I want them for back-up? Why have back-ups which are *less* reliable
than what they are backing-up? Electricity? The Flight II will run on a 9
volt battery for two+ hours and the shelf life of an alkaline battery is 5
years. And in reality the 9 volt battery is a back-up to the back-up battery
for the Enigma.
www.mglavionics.co.za/flight2.html
In a 3.5 inch hole the Flight II gives you:
* Altimeter
* Airspeed indicator
* Analog VSI
* Digital VSI
* Density altimeter
* True airspeed
and a lot more.
If you want back-up engine instruments add an MGL E1:
www.mglavionics.co.za/Docs/e1.pdf
In another 3.5 inch hole you gain:
* RPM with digital and analog readout.
* Programmable engine hobbs meter and running timer (flight timer).
* Up to four thermocouple channels for EGT and CHT probes, fully
programmable.
* A water temperature or oil temperature monitor.
* Oil pressure monitor.
Chris Smith flies his Cleanex (Corvair-powered Sonex) with nothing but a
Flight II and an E1.
Also, don't forget that if you have a Garmin 296/396/496 it will run on its
internal battery for hours and can provide basic attitude information. But
it can't provide air speed.
-- Craig
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Hi Hans,
My plan is to install a single Dynon combined EFIS/EIS. The only
other flight instrument I have is a lift reserve indicator I made
while waiting for my wing kit to arrive. For radios, I will have
some sort of (portable, battery powered?) GPS along with a Comm
(NAV?) and transponder.
The GPS provides a reasonable backup for the EFIS. I consider
neither one necessary unless I screw up and find myself in bad
weather where I must fly on the gauges. For most VFR flights I don't
require any instruments at all - except for navigation in unknown territory.
I will be operating with Sport Pilot limitations, so only VFR day
operations are planned. Also, I had the benefit of a really good
instructor for night flying. He took me up one evening (in a 172XP)
and we did circuits and bumps for an hour or two. We started at dusk
and went well into total darkness. The only lights in use were the
navigation lights required to keep others from hitting us. I learned
to handle all the necessary controls by touch and to control the
engine, prop, and airspeed by just sound and the nose position
compared to the horizon. Once you know how to fly with a totally
black cockpit, you don't forget. If you haven't yet learned to fly
like this, then you probably should include a backup airspeed
indicator and perhaps an altimeter. If you have a GPS, it can give
you fine altitude information, but the speed it gives is only ground speed.
If I were planning to fly true IFR, then I would include a backup
TBI, airspeed, and altimeter. I know needle/ball and airspeed flying
is hard work, but if you consider yourself competent to fly IFR then
you should be able to fly on this level of minimum panel in the rare
case when your EFIS turns toes up. If not, some remedial training is in order.
Good luck,
Paul
XL fuselage
At 02:12 PM 5/3/2007, you wrote:
>
>Is there anybody who is going to install or who installed already an
>EFIS (like the Dynon) without an analogue backup of primairy flight
>instruments?
>
>I see the advantage (financially as well as for panel real estate)
>of having an EFIS that's all in one and that includes an HSI. But if
>you have to install analogue instruments as well that kind of
>defeats the purpose, doesn't it?
>
>I would like to hear your thoughts on this.
>
>Hans van Riet
>
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Like John I have a Champ. You quickly learn that your eyes and ears provide you
with most of the info you need for safe VFR flying. In my opinion, most VFR
pilots do not pay enough attention to what is happening outside the cockpit.
That said, I'm likely going with a single EFIS and separate EIS. In addition,
I have a Garmin 296 portable which has an excellent Flight instrument display.
Makes a great backup to your EFIS and is battery powered.
Tim
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DO NOT ARCHIVE
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Champ L16A flying
Zodiac XL - Jabiru 3300A
Working on wings
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| Subject: | Re: Painting is done |
How do I make your picture visable on this CRT
Mil
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| Subject: | MGL's Enigma EFIS |
> ... but the Stratomaster Enigma is coming on strong
BTW: if you are interested in Enigma, MGL has put up a new web site which
does a much better job of explaining its multitude of features:
www.stratomaster.com/Enigma
-- Craig
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| Subject: | MGL's Enigma EFIS |
> ... but the Stratomaster Enigma is coming on strong
BTW: if you are interested in Enigma, MGL has put up a new web site which
does a much better job of explaining its multitude of features:
www.stratomaster.com/Enigma
-- Craig
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