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1. 05:34 AM - Brake problems (Bob)
2. 06:03 AM - Re: Brake problems (Dave Austin)
3. 06:47 AM - Re: Re:hole flanging (japhillipsga@aol.com)
4. 07:11 AM - Re: PTT wiring (Kevin Kinney)
5. 07:16 AM - Re: Electrical question (ashontz)
6. 07:21 AM - Re: .062 bends/Dave's brake (ashontz)
7. 07:21 AM - Sort of Topic related (Gerald A. Applefeld VMD)
8. 07:26 AM - Re: Selling an experimental a/c (ashontz)
9. 07:30 AM - Re: Selling an experimental a/c (ashontz)
10. 07:40 AM - Re: Selling an experimental a/c (ashontz)
11. 07:49 AM - Re: Re: Selling an experimental a/c (Randy)
12. 07:58 AM - Re: Selling an experimental a/c (ashontz)
13. 08:27 AM - Re: Re: Selling an experimental a/c (Art Gibeaut)
14. 10:07 AM - Re: Re: PTT wiring ()
15. 10:08 AM - Re: facet fuel pumps (Clive Richards)
16. 11:07 AM - Propellor leading edge tape (billmileski)
17. 11:25 AM - Re: Selling an experimental a/c (ashontz)
18. 11:44 AM - Re: Re: Selling an experimental a/c (Juan Vega)
19. 12:15 PM - Re: Selling an experimental a/c (ashontz)
20. 12:51 PM - [ Jay Bannister ] : New Email List Photo Share Available! (Email List Photo Shares)
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22. 12:59 PM - [ Eric Tingey ] : New Email List Photo Share Available! (Email List Photo Shares)
23. 01:57 PM - Re: Propellor leading edge tape (n282rs@satx.rr.com)
24. 01:59 PM - Re: Propellor leading edge tape (george may)
25. 03:19 PM - Re: Re:hole flanging (Bill Naumuk)
26. 04:35 PM - Distance of Left and Right wing to rear reference point (eddies)
27. 04:50 PM - The Zenith Gathering at Winchester on September is On! (Jeff)
28. 05:34 PM - Re: Distance of Left and Right wing to rear reference point (Gerald Scampoli)
29. 07:15 PM - Re: Selling an Experimental (Steve Shuck)
30. 07:16 PM - Re: Propellor leading edge tape (NYTerminat@aol.com)
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Have a problem with my Cleveland brakes. The left break locks up closed
after setting for awhile. My hanger is very damp and I do experience som
e
rust, but I lubricate the pins and disassembling the pads, everything wor
ks
fine. Have also cleaned the pins with emery cloth. Don't think it's the
piston. Never had the problem with the right brake.
Any suggestions?
Bob, Wichita
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| Subject: | Re: Brake problems |
Bob,
You could have some air in the left brake system. Tends to hold the
pads from retracting.
Dave Austin 601HDS - 912, Spitfire Mk VIII
----- Original Message -----
From: Bob
To: zenith-list@matronics.com
Sent: Monday, May 07, 2007 8:33 AM
Subject: Zenith-List: Brake problems
Have a problem with my Cleveland brakes. The left break locks
up closed after setting for awhile. My hanger is very damp and I do
experience some rust, but I lubricate the pins and disassembling the
pads, everything works fine. Have also cleaned the pins with emery
cloth. Don't think it's the piston. Never had the problem with the
right brake.
Any suggestions?
Bob, Wichita
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| Subject: | Re:hole flanging |
Ed, I used one similar once and it made wavy bends because the pressure can not
be maintained constant. I purchased another design that is two large rollers
welded to a set of vise grips that works very well. Paid about $40. for it. Hope
your building is going well. I flew last week and did five touch and go's in
about 30 minutes. The Jab 3300 really pulls hard. When tanks got about half
full she climbed at 1300 fpm. Best regards, Bill of Georgia
do not archive
-----Original Message-----
From: dredmoody@cox.net
Sent: Fri, 4 May 2007 10:11 AM
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Re:hole flanging
Beats me. I bought one and I hate it. I obviously have no idea how the damned
thing is supposed to be used.
Dred
---- MaxNr@aol.com wrote:
> I saw a hole flanger on the US Industrial Tool Co. print ad in Trade A Plane.
> It looked like a metal arm with two rollers. How in the world do you use it?
> Do not archive
>
> Bob Dingley
> Pace,FL 601XL/LYC
>
>
> **************************************
> See what's free at
> http://www.aol.com.
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I have an Xcom-760, which shows 22ga, twisted pair for the PTT's.
You can make your own twisted pair by chucking the wires in a drill and spinning
them. Release them and let the wires relax. (Credits to Bob Knuckolls and
the AeroElectic Connection.)
For future reference - Here's a link to the AeroElectric FAQ -
www.aeroelectric.com/FAQ/AeroElectric-List/AeroElectric-List_FAQ.pdf
It's fairly large and at 310 pages, you wouldn't want to print it. I've downloaded
it and search it whenever I don't have my print copy of AeroElectric Connection
at hand.
Of course, EVERYONE owns a copy of the AEC, don't they? Seriously, it's an excellent
resource. After attending one of BK's classes and RTM, I feel minimally
competent to wire my own machine.
And for someone who knew nothing about aircraft electrical systems, that's saying
a lot.
Good luck on your project,
Kevin Kinney
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| Subject: | Re: Electrical question |
[quote="dredmoody(at)cox.net"]Thanks for the responses regarding the DC rating
of an AC rated switch. Both relpies indicate that the problem point is the arcing
that will happen when the switch is opened or closed. That solved my dilemma.
In my proposed application the AC rated switch is a SPDT switch which will
be used to direct the 12VDC power to either the right or the left boost pump
(I have one facet pump mounted in each wing root next to the tank). This
"fuel pump selector switch" is fed by the fuel pump switch on the panel, which
in my case it is part of the EXP BUS 2V Tray system. So in this application,
the selector switch is activated before the "fuel pump switch" on the panel
is switched on. Therefore there should be no opening or closing arc at the
selector switch. That should make it safe to use a 125VAC 10 amp switch as the
selector switch without burning it out or welding it closed at a ripe young
age.
Thanks again,
Dred
> [b]
If you're going to do that, make sure you always use it in that order, selection
with the AC rated switch, then ON with the DC rated switch.
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Andy Shontz
CH601XL - Corvair
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| Subject: | Re: .062 bends/Dave's brake |
[quote="naumuk(at)alltel.net"]All-
Had to make my upper nose strut bearing twice, and damned near trashed my
Dave's brake. Mean 'ol mother physics.
I was worried about the blank shifting back, so put the long side of the
piece under the hold-down angle. WRONG! Didn't pop the hinge rivets, but put
a kink in the hinge. I can fix it without major difficulty.
When bending the heavy stuff, leave the long end out for additional leverage.
Bill Naumuk
HDS Fuse/Corvair
Townville, Pa
> [b]
Do the .063 bending in a shorter brake. I have a 48" brake (actually 47.5"), the
Zenith design, and a 8'+ plus I designed. I can actually bend 6'+ of .040 in
it with clamps in the center. I made my spar cap angles out of .040 (in two sections)
in my big brake. Called for .032 but I didn't have any left so I made
them out of .040.
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Andy Shontz
CH601XL - Corvair
www.mykitlog.com/ashontz
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| Subject: | Sort of Topic related |
List,
I don't post very often but monitor daily. There has been alot of talk
about EFIS. I purchased a Dynon D10A off Ebay just before Christmas. It
had never been installed, the gentileman couldn't complete his project.
I bench tested it with a 12v power supply and it works perfectly. I
have a 601HD with 16 gallon main gas tank and there is not enough room
behind the panel to install it in a normal line of vision. Anyone with
an XL using wing tanks should not have a problem with panel space.
Since I can't use it I'm putting it up for sale. I paid $1900 which is
$300 less than the list price. Anyone interested, please contact me off
list. I will pay shipping in the US.
Jerry
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| Subject: | Re: Selling an experimental a/c |
stutzman(at)stutzman.com wrote:
> On Tue, 1 May 2007, ashontz wrote:
>
>
> > p.mulwitz(at)worldnet.att wrote:
> > > Personally, I liked the idea in one of Robert Heinlein's books where
> > > he talks about "the day we hung all the lawyers."
> >
> >
> > This is a wonderful idea. Damn parasites.
> >
> >
>
> I'm not a lawyer, and I don't mean to be defending them, but...
>
> If lawyers didn't have clients they wouldn't be sueing. Lawyers are the
> symptoms of a problem, not the problem itself.
>
> In other words, we are very often our own worse enemeys.
>
> DO NOT ARCHIVE
>
> Frank Stutzman
> Bonanza N494B "Hula Girl"
> Hood River, OR (soon to be Boise, ID)
I think it's the other way around. Lawyers, and the presense of lawyers that create
a litigous society is where all the lawsuits come from. There's tons of advertizements
for "We'll get you the money you 'deserve'".
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Andy Shontz
CH601XL - Corvair
www.mykitlog.com/ashontz
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| Subject: | Re: Selling an experimental a/c |
bryanmmartin wrote:
> Lawyers often actively search for potential clients. Some have even
> been known to pay hospital workers to refer accidents victims to
> them. If the lawyer had any ethics, he would not accept a case that
> had no real merit, but greed takes over and they gamble on a case
> that they might win and get 40% of the take. Lawyers are not just a
> symptom of the problem, they are part of the problem but not the
> whole problem. The biggest issue is that the lawyer risks little or
> nothing by taking a meritless case to trial but the defendant has to
> spend a pile of money to defend himself whether he wins or loses.
>
> On May 1, 2007, at 3:19 PM, Frank Stutzman wrote:
>
>
> >
> > If lawyers didn't have clients they wouldn't be sueing. Lawyers
> > are the symptoms of a problem, not the problem itself.
> >
> > In other words, we are very often our own worse enemeys.
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Bryan Martin
> N61BM, CH 601 XL,
> RAM Subaru, Stratus redrive.
> do not archive.
We definitely need 'loser pays' laws so that a lawyer and his parasitic client
have a baseless case, they're going to be paying out the ass for their stunt.
do not archive.
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Andy Shontz
CH601XL - Corvair
www.mykitlog.com/ashontz
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| Subject: | Re: Selling an experimental a/c |
Then again, the upside is, you just build a plane for personal use, build from
plans to minimize cost, then let all your friends know you're kip and intelligent
enough to build your own plane whereas they have to function within the system
and pay out the ass for a production plane (probably 90% of the cost goes
to keep a stable of lawyers at Cessna). Isn't that what homebuilding is all about?
I really enjoy letting 'professionals' know I'm capable of building a plane and
have a license. I also like letting them know I have a boat too that I keep seaworthy
myself. These 'professionals' took the 'safe' path, the road more taken,
and have found that because they're all thumbs, they have to pay excessively
to have and enjoy the things of leisure that are generally associated with
people of means, often to the point that it's still out of their reach. It's a
very satisfyng scheudenfraude, especially when they want you to be impressed
with their BMW. Eff them. "Neat BMW, somebody else make that for you and then
charge you 8 times what it actually cost? Cool beans!" LOL
do not archive
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Andy Shontz
CH601XL - Corvair
www.mykitlog.com/ashontz
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| Subject: | Re: Selling an experimental a/c |
I agree with you Andy. I had an accident a few years ago, lots of damage to
my truck but I was not hurt. I had four lawyers call me to see if they
could represent me in a claim against the other person's insurance. Scum of
the earth!!
Randy
do not archive
----- Original Message -----
From: "ashontz" <ashontz@nbme.org>
Sent: Monday, May 07, 2007 9:26 AM
Subject: Zenith-List: Re: Selling an experimental a/c
>
>
> stutzman(at)stutzman.com wrote:
>> On Tue, 1 May 2007, ashontz wrote:
>>
>>
>> > p.mulwitz(at)worldnet.att wrote:
>> > > Personally, I liked the idea in one of Robert Heinlein's books where
>> > > he talks about "the day we hung all the lawyers."
>> >
>> >
>> > This is a wonderful idea. Damn parasites.
>> >
>> >
>>
>> I'm not a lawyer, and I don't mean to be defending them, but...
>>
>> If lawyers didn't have clients they wouldn't be sueing. Lawyers are the
>> symptoms of a problem, not the problem itself.
>>
>> In other words, we are very often our own worse enemeys.
>>
>> DO NOT ARCHIVE
>>
>> Frank Stutzman
>> Bonanza N494B "Hula Girl"
>> Hood River, OR (soon to be Boise, ID)
>
>
> I think it's the other way around. Lawyers, and the presense of lawyers
> that create a litigous society is where all the lawsuits come from.
> There's tons of advertizements for "We'll get you the money you
> 'deserve'".
>
> do not archive
>
> --------
> Andy Shontz
> CH601XL - Corvair
> www.mykitlog.com/ashontz
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=111334#111334
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Selling an experimental a/c |
rpf(at)wi.rr.com wrote:
> I agree with you Andy. I had an accident a few years ago, lots of damage to
> my truck but I was not hurt. I had four lawyers call me to see if they
> could represent me in a claim against the other person's insurance. Scum of
> the earth!!
>
> Randy
> do not archive
> ---
Yeah, they are the scum of the earth. I got in an accident about 12 years ago,
totally the girls fault, she not only didn't have insurance, but also an expired
license. Here I find out she's making a claim on miy insurance. Probably a
lawyer trying to push that one. I had to notify my insurance company about that
and they nipped that sh!t in the bud.
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Andy Shontz
CH601XL - Corvair
www.mykitlog.com/ashontz
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| Subject: | Re: Selling an experimental a/c |
Andy, you are just too funny today! I laughed right
out loud when read this. I think you are exactly right
about the pride of building and maintaining complex
equipment. That is what "pegs my fun meter". Pardon my
ignorance but what the heck is scheudenfraude?
Do not archive.
--- ashontz <ashontz@nbme.org> wrote:
> <ashontz@nbme.org>
>
> Then again, the upside is, you just build a plane
> for personal use, build from plans to minimize cost,
> then let all your friends know you're kip and
> intelligent enough to build your own plane whereas
> they have to function within the system and pay out
> the ass for a production plane (probably 90% of the
> cost goes to keep a stable of lawyers at Cessna).
> Isn't that what homebuilding is all about?
>
> I really enjoy letting 'professionals' know I'm
> capable of building a plane and have a license. I
> also like letting them know I have a boat too that I
> keep seaworthy myself. These 'professionals' took
> the 'safe' path, the road more taken, and have found
> that because they're all thumbs, they have to pay
> excessively to have and enjoy the things of leisure
> that are generally associated with people of means,
> often to the point that it's still out of their
> reach. It's a very satisfyng scheudenfraude,
> especially when they want you to be impressed with
> their BMW. Eff them. "Neat BMW, somebody else make
> that for you and then charge you 8 times what it
> actually cost? Cool beans!" LOL
>
> do not archive
>
> --------
> Andy Shontz
> CH601XL - Corvair
> www.mykitlog.com/ashontz
>
>
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
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>
>
>
> browse
> Subscriptions page,
> FAQ,
> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Zenith-List
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> Web Forums!
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Get your own web address.
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| Subject: | Re: re: PTT wiring |
Thanks again to all. The right stick should do fine with a homemade twisted pair.
The left one with its nine conductors will be more of a challenge.
Dred
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| Subject: | Re: facet fuel pumps |
Hi If you have a Marvel Carburettor for use with a mechanical fuel pump
I believe the Max inlet pressure is 6 psi. I believe I read in the 0200
manual that a different carb inlet valve is used with gravity feed due
to lower pressure I assume you have this fitted if your carb is off a
C152. You may be able to confirm this by asking carb manufactures or
looking in there web site.
Ray's 601 I fly has a facet 40106 rated 4-5.5 psi on fire wall as a
backup in parallel with the engine driven pump the feed is from header
tank through gascolator to pumps.
We donot have a pressure gage fitted so donot know running pressures.
We topup the header tank from wing tanks with a facet 40105 pump
supplied with kit. There will be a lot of information on fuel systems
in the archives.
do no archive
Clive Richards
Ray Lasnier 601HD Continental 0200 110 Hours todate
----- Original Message -----
From: Yak52@aol.com
To: zenith-list@matronics.com
Sent: Sunday, May 06, 2007 4:16 PM
Subject: Zenith-List: facet fuel pumps
I have installed two facet 40108 pumps in series on the floor in front
of the gascolator in a 601xl. The line then goes through the firewall to
the carburetor on a continental 0200a. There is no pressure regulator
except the pumps themselves. The fuel pressure indicator is at the carb.
Upon starting, the fuel pressure using one pump goes to 4 pounds, but
at cruise rpm's the pressure goes to 1 pound. Adding the second pump
raises the pressure at cruise to 7 pounds, but floods out the carb if
rpm's are lowered to pattern power settings. I am at a loss to explain,
but searched the archives and noticed that others have had low pressure
problems with the facet cube pumps upon occasion. Is the installation in
series the problem? Are the pumps not of sufficient volume? Should I go
to the traditional piper style 480545 facet interrupter pumps? There is
no mechanical fuel pump on this engine as it was taken from a cessna
150.
Yak52@aol.com
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| Subject: | Propellor leading edge tape |
Hi,
I have a Woodcomp 3-blade prop that is great.. except the leading edge tape that
came with it is creeping off at the tips.
Does anyone have an idea of what to use as a replacement? There are various 3M
part numbers, but wondering if anyone has a recommendation.
Thanks,
Bill Mileski
Ledyard, CT
701 912S 90hrs
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| Subject: | Re: Selling an experimental a/c |
agibeaut wrote:
> Andy, you are just too funny today! I laughed right
> out loud when read this. I think you are exactly right
> about the pride of building and maintaining complex
> equipment. That is what "pegs my fun meter". Pardon my
> ignorance but what the heck is scheudenfraude?
>
http://dictionary.reference.com/search?r=2&q=Schadenfreude
It's an existential sitcom trombone sound-effect "wah waaaahhhhh". Like when Ernie
would pull a fast one on Bert and Bert would be left cleaning up all the toys
because Ernie negotiated to clean up all the red toys with wheels and ladders
and then Ernie would put away the firetruck and leave Bert with a sh!thouse
to take care of ... wah waaahhh.
do not archive
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Andy Shontz
CH601XL - Corvair
www.mykitlog.com/ashontz
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| Subject: | Re: Selling an experimental a/c |
f%#$@*)ing perfect. Scheudenfruede is the name of my plane!!
Juan Vega
-----Original Message-----
>From: Art Gibeaut <aagibeaut@yahoo.com>
>Sent: May 7, 2007 11:21 AM
>To: zenith-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Re: Selling an experimental a/c
>
>
>Andy, you are just too funny today! I laughed right
>out loud when read this. I think you are exactly right
>about the pride of building and maintaining complex
>equipment. That is what "pegs my fun meter". Pardon my
>ignorance but what the heck is scheudenfraude?
>
>Do not archive.
>--- ashontz <ashontz@nbme.org> wrote:
>
>> <ashontz@nbme.org>
>>
>> Then again, the upside is, you just build a plane
>> for personal use, build from plans to minimize cost,
>> then let all your friends know you're kip and
>> intelligent enough to build your own plane whereas
>> they have to function within the system and pay out
>> the ass for a production plane (probably 90% of the
>> cost goes to keep a stable of lawyers at Cessna).
>> Isn't that what homebuilding is all about?
>>
>> I really enjoy letting 'professionals' know I'm
>> capable of building a plane and have a license. I
>> also like letting them know I have a boat too that I
>> keep seaworthy myself. These 'professionals' took
>> the 'safe' path, the road more taken, and have found
>> that because they're all thumbs, they have to pay
>> excessively to have and enjoy the things of leisure
>> that are generally associated with people of means,
>> often to the point that it's still out of their
>> reach. It's a very satisfyng scheudenfraude,
>> especially when they want you to be impressed with
>> their BMW. Eff them. "Neat BMW, somebody else make
>> that for you and then charge you 8 times what it
>> actually cost? Cool beans!" LOL
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>> do not archive
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>> CH601XL - Corvair
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| Subject: | Re: Selling an experimental a/c |
Another idea, when it comes time to sell, hold a general raffle and when the desired
price is reached, say $65,000 in tickets, then the winner is rewarded with
$5,000 cash and the opportunity to pull the tripwire that releases the plane
from a 200 foot crane with a big banner that reads horay for lawyers. Simultaneously
pamplets will be released that explains why when lawyers get involved,
no real production or wealth can be achieved in our society and so the most
productive thing that can be done with the plane is to destroy it (for an entertainment
fee of course). Then additional revenue can be generated from raffles
as to how far the plane glides laterally before impact. Of course the media
is more than welcome to attend. Then the NTSB can (for a fee) inspect the damage.
--------
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CH601XL - Corvair
www.mykitlog.com/ashontz
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| Subject: | [ Jay Bannister ] : New Email List Photo Share Available! |
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| Subject: | Re: Propellor leading edge tape |
www.clearmask.com. They have a tape that was developed for helecopter rotors.
Randy Stout
San Antonio TX
-----Original Message-----
From: billmileski <mileski@sonalysts.com>
To:zenith-list@matronics.com
Subject: Zenith-List: Propellor leading edge tape
Hi,
I have a Woodcomp 3-blade prop that is great.. except the leading edge tape that
came with it is creeping off at the tips.
Does anyone have an idea of what to use as a replacement? There are various 3M
part numbers, but wondering if anyone has a recommendation.
Thanks,
Bill Mileski
Ledyard, CT
701 912S 90hrs
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| Subject: | Propellor leading edge tape |
Bill--
I had the same problem, especially with small stones hitting it. I looked
at a number of wicks, and aircraft spruce solutions but ended up using some
vinyl tape from ACE hardware. It's lasting as well as the original and is
cheap to replace.
George May
601XL 912s---71 hours
>From: "billmileski" <mileski@sonalysts.com>
>To: zenith-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Zenith-List: Propellor leading edge tape
>Date: Mon, 7 May 2007 11:04:28 -0700
>
>
>Hi,
>
>I have a Woodcomp 3-blade prop that is great.. except the leading edge tape
>that came with it is creeping off at the tips.
>Does anyone have an idea of what to use as a replacement? There are
>various 3M part numbers, but wondering if anyone has a recommendation.
>
>Thanks,
>
>Bill Mileski
>Ledyard, CT
>701 912S 90hrs
>
>
>Read this topic online here:
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| Subject: | Re:hole flanging |
Bob-
Depends on the geometry of the wheels, but stick the Al between them
with the handle perpendicular to the hole. Pull the flange down to a
rough shape every 1/2" or so. Then, switch sides, add some angle to the
tool, and run it around the hole a couple of times with light down
pressure.
Works acceptably well for flange holes, but you'll find more uses
for the tool for other stuff.
Bill Naumuk
HDS Fuse/Corvair
Townville, Pa
----- Original Message -----
From: japhillipsga@aol.com
To: zenith-list@matronics.com
Sent: Monday, May 07, 2007 9:45 AM
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Re:hole flanging
Ed, I used one similar once and it made wavy bends because the
pressure can not be maintained constant. I purchased another design that
is two large rollers welded to a set of vise grips that works very well.
Paid about $40. for it. Hope your building is going well. I flew last
week and did five touch and go's in about 30 minutes. The Jab 3300
really pulls hard. When tanks got about half full she climbed at 1300
fpm. Best regards, Bill of Georgia
do not archive
-----Original Message-----
From: dredmoody@cox.net
To: zenith-list@matronics.com
Sent: Fri, 4 May 2007 10:11 AM
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Re:hole flanging
Beats me. I bought one and I hate it. I obviously have no idea how the
damned
thing is supposed to be used.
Dred
---- MaxNr@aol.com wrote:
> I saw a hole flanger on the US Industrial Tool Co. print ad in Trade A
Plane.
> It looked like a metal arm with two rollers. How in the world do you
use it?
> Do not archive
>
> Bob Dingley
> Pace,FL 601XL/LYC
>
>
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| Subject: | Distance of Left and Right wing to rear reference point |
Hi fellow listers,
I started fitting my left and right wings to the fuselage last weekend and was
wondering if anyone had recorded the measurements for the distance from the left
and right wing tip back to a common reference point.
I used the centre point of the last former of the rear turtle deck and got a measurement
of 1850mm or 72.83 inches. This measurement was with both of the rear
spar's as hard up against the centre of flap control arm as I could get them.
The plans say that it is important to get both measurements within 50mm (both my
measurements are the same) but there is no mention about the effects of the
wings being swept either forward or backward.
I know its more an optical illusion then reality, but looking down the wings from
wing tip to wing tip the wings appear to be swept forward.
For anyone that has gone through this already did you notice or encounter this
and if so how did you solve it.
Best Regards,
Eddie
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| Subject: | The Zenith Gathering at Winchester on September is On! |
Mark your calendars :
The Zenith Gathering at the EAA Chapter 186 Flyin at Winchester
Virginia on September 22nd and 23rd is on!
Recently there have been several mentions of organizing Zenith
gatherings in the Zenith Newsletter and on the Matronics Zenith email list.
Here in the United States Mid-Atlantic area (NC, VA, WVA, MD, PA, NJ, DE) we
have a lot of Zenith enthusiasts. I have always wanted to find a way to
bring together more than the few Zenith/Zenair planes I might see at Oshkosh
or Sun-N-Fun. Informal gatherings at Sentimental Journey in Lock Haven
Pennsylvania have been just a taste of what I'd like to see. It will be an
event within an event. As part of the EAA event, we will be able to utilize
the EAA flyin facilities. A pancake breakfast, lunch trailer, car show,
Young Eagles, necessary facilities, and other activities are all traditional
aspects of the Winchester flyin. This year, a Berlin Airlift C-54 will be
part of the Flyin. I am making arrangements for a large Zenith/Zenair tent
with plenty of room for hangar flying, a building display or demonstration,
whatever literature and goods I can gather, and a continuous video show like
that seen at the Builder's Dinner at Robbin's in Oshkosh. Next to it we
will have a reserved space high on the airport grounds to tie down and show
off whatever number of Zenith aircraft I can entice to fly in. And we will
have an eating event! Other details will follow! This will be a social
and educational aviation event and a chance to have a good time with others
interested in Zenith aircraft.
The EAA Chapter 186 Fall Flyin and Cruisin is held at the
Winchester, Virginia Regional airport (OKV). OKV is located just west of
Washington DC outside of the Class B airspace, away from Camp David, and
outside the Air Defense Identification Zone (ADIZ). The Winchester airport
is just off Interstate 81 at Route 50 for those that are driving. Plenty of
hotels are available for those that would like to stay overnight. The area
itself is a tourist destination for the Apple Festival, numerous nearby
natural caverns, Skyline Drive, the Charlestown Race Track, historic
Harper's Ferry, civil war battlefields, Sky Bryce Resort, and other
attractions. Flying in the area exposes a bonanza of exciting scenery.
I am please to say that the response has been great. I have
enough aircraft flying in that we might be able to assemble a small fleet of
Zenith aircraft. And lots of builders that will help. So mark your
calendars and watch the Zenith List and the Zenair Newsletter for further
developments are the date gets nearer. I am hoping to see and meet
everyone of you!
Jeff Davidson
Email: <mailto:zenithgathering@earthlink.net>
zenithgathering@earthlink.net
Phone: 703-471-1153
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| Subject: | Distance of Left and Right wing to rear reference point |
Eddie,
The wings are indeed swept forward slightly.
Gerry Scampoli
Hingham, MA
601XL - Corvair
>From: "eddies" <eddie.seve@clarity.com>
>To: zenith-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Zenith-List: Distance of Left and Right wing to rear reference
>point
>Date: Mon, 7 May 2007 16:34:35 -0700
>
>
>Hi fellow listers,
>
>I started fitting my left and right wings to the fuselage last weekend and
>was wondering if anyone had recorded the measurements for the distance from
>the left and right wing tip back to a common reference point.
>
>I used the centre point of the last former of the rear turtle deck and got
>a measurement of 1850mm or 72.83 inches. This measurement was with both of
>the rear spar's as hard up against the centre of flap control arm as I
>could get them.
>
>The plans say that it is important to get both measurements within 50mm
>(both my measurements are the same) but there is no mention about the
>effects of the wings being swept either forward or backward.
>
>I know its more an optical illusion then reality, but looking down the
>wings from wing tip to wing tip the wings appear to be swept forward.
>
>For anyone that has gone through this already did you notice or encounter
>this and if so how did you solve it.
>
>Best Regards,
>Eddie
>
>
>Read this topic online here:
>
>http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=111468#111468
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Selling an Experimental |
I did read somewhere recently that the builder of John Denver's airplane,
and including the fuel valve manufacture were still in litigation as
defendants over his accident.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Joe" <joe@kfiz.com>
Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2007 9:26 PM
Subject: Zenith-List: Selling an Experimental
>
> Dave,
>
>
> No matter how iron tight you have a resale agreement, they can still drag
> you into court and make your life miserable! I would love to know just how
> many homebuilt litigation problems ever make it to court. I know of a lot
> of friends that buy and sell homebuilts and factory builts and I have not
> personally seen any problems after the sale, but I'm sure there have been
> cases! I used this agreement when I sold a homebuilt a few years ago. It
> was written by a lawyer and I'm sure you may be able to pull out a few
> sentences and make your own.
>
>
> THIS AGREEMENT AND BILL OF SALE made and entered into this _______ day of
> March, 2000 at the Buyers residence in Oshkosh, Wisconsin by and between
> *********(seller), and
> _________________________________________________________ (Buyer), an
> adult residing at
> For and in consideration of $00000 dollars, receipt of which is
> acknowledged, seller does hereby sell and transfer unto Buyer, all Sellers
> right, title, and interest in the aircraft parts thereof, as registered
> with the Federal Aviation Administration, ******, model *******, together
> with such log books and other records in his possession, relating to said
> aircraft, disclaiming any liability for the completeness or the accuracy
> of any such logs or records. Said aircraft is without engine and the wings
> have been removed. The aircraft is not airworthy. To the best of Sellers
> knowledge, said aircraft is not subject to any security interest or other
> encumbrances.
>
> Buyer acknowledges that he is buying a homebuilt aircraft and that
> Buyer has inspected the aircraft, or has caused the same to be inspected,
> and accepts same in its present as is, where is condition. Buyer shall be
> responsible for the removal of the aircraft from seller's premises.
>
> Buyer acknowledges that Seller is the registered owner, and Seller
> makes absolutely no representations, promises, statements, or warranties,
> expressed or implied, with respect to the registration, fitness of the
> aircraft, or any other condition whatsoever, and Seller shall not be
> liable to the buyer for any loss, claim, demand, liability, cost, damage,
> or expense of any kind caused by or alleged to be caused, directly or
> indirectly, or arising out of Buyers possession or use of the aircraft or
> the transportation thereof, or any inadequacy or any defect in such
> aircraft, or any damage, whatsoever or howsoever caused, and Buyer agrees
> to indemnify and hold the seller harmless from and against any and all
> such losses, claims, demands, liabilities, from the sale, use, or
> transportation of said Aircraft.
>
> It is further agreed that Buyer shall be responsible for the
> registration (including fees) of said aircraft as required by the Federal
> Aviation Administration, and by the State of ******, Department of
> Transportation, Bureau of Aeronautics.
>
> Hope this helps!
>
> Joe in Oshkosh
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Propellor leading edge tape |
Bill,
Good question, mine is doing the same thing.
Bob Spudis
N701ZX 106 hrs
In a message dated 5/7/2007 2:09:23 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
mileski@sonalysts.com writes:
Hi,
I have a Woodcomp 3-blade prop that is great.. except the leading edge tape
that came with it is creeping off at the tips.
Does anyone have an idea of what to use as a replacement? There are various
3M part numbers, but wondering if anyone has a recommendation.
Thanks,
Bill Mileski
Ledyard, CT
701 912S 90hrs
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