---------------------------------------------------------- Zenith-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Wed 05/23/07: 14 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 04:38 AM - Re: 601XL Fuselage build before wings (ashontz) 2. 08:10 AM - Crash (J Core) 3. 08:33 AM - Re: Crash (ihab.awad@gmail.com) 4. 08:33 AM - Re: Crash (Dave G.) 5. 08:36 AM - Re: Crash (Art Gibeaut) 6. 08:39 AM - Re: Crash (William Dominguez) 7. 10:43 AM - More Press Coverage on G-YOXI (PatrickW) 8. 10:52 AM - Re: Zip fly-in workshop great turn-out! (Tim Juhl) 9. 11:04 AM - Re: Zodiac 601-XL (Tim Juhl) 10. 11:17 AM - Re: More Press Coverage on G-YOXI (Gig Giacona) 11. 12:47 PM - Builder in Dallas Area with Wings Complete? 601XL (jonaburns) 12. 05:17 PM - drill for sale (David Downey) 13. 08:01 PM - Re: 601XL Fuselage build before wings (Ron Lendon) 14. 11:11 PM - Re: Builder in Dallas Area with Wings Complete? 601XL (TxDave) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 04:38:55 AM PST US Subject: Zenith-List: Re: 601XL Fuselage build before wings From: "ashontz" Ron Lendon wrote: > You are correct, I setup the right and center spar then repeated the process for the left and center spar. Pretty much just followed the directions on the 6-W-4 drawing and built the right triangle 3588, 3605, 355. Did your second wing go much faster than the first? I'm expecting it will. Considering I already have the forms made and my riveting skills down pat I expect to build the second wing in about half the time or less. Plus, while I messed up my first rear spar in the sense that I reversed it so I actually have the left rear spar made so it's really just a matter of making the main spar and the ribs on the existing reverse forms. Should go pretty fast. Probably not going to get a chance to work on anything for about a month or so though. I have a bunch of jobs around the house I have to get out of the way first. Ugh. do not archive -------- Andy Shontz CH601XL - Corvair www.mykitlog.com/ashontz Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=114338#114338 ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 08:10:41 AM PST US From: "J Core" Subject: Zenith-List: Crash There was another crash of an amateur-built all metal low wing plane South of Marysville Ohio, pilot was trying to land at Union Co. airport. N number was N7259N ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 08:33:27 AM PST US From: ihab.awad@gmail.com Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Crash On 5/23/07, J Core wrote: > There was another crash of an amateur-built all metal > low wing plane South of Marysville Ohio, pilot was > trying to land at Union Co. airport. > N number was N7259N It's an RV-7A. http://www.wlwt.com/news/13357582/detail.html Ihab -- Ihab A.B. Awad, Palo Alto, CA ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 08:33:30 AM PST US From: "Dave G." Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Crash Listed as an RV-7. ----- Original Message ----- From: J Core To: zenith-list@matronics.com Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2007 12:09 PM Subject: Zenith-List: Crash There was another crash of an amateur-built all metal low wing plane South of Marysville Ohio, pilot was trying to land at Union Co. airport. N number was N7259N ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 08:36:39 AM PST US From: Art Gibeaut Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Crash FAA Registry lists it as a RV7A --- J Core wrote: > There was another crash of an amateur-built all > metal > low wing plane South of Marysville Ohio, pilot was > trying to land at Union Co. airport. > N number was N7259N http://autos.yahoo.com/carfinder/ ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 08:39:58 AM PST US From: William Dominguez Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Crash According to the registration, this is a Vans RV7A. William Dominguez Zodiac 601XL Plans Miami, Florida J Core wrote: There was another crash of an amateur-built all metal low wing plane South of Marysville Ohio, pilot was trying to land at Union Co. airport. N number was N7259N ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 10:43:09 AM PST US Subject: Zenith-List: More Press Coverage on G-YOXI From: "PatrickW" http://www.wakefieldtoday.co.uk/news?articleid=2887236 Quotes: The accident was not survivable. The aircraft structure failed as a result of excess loads being applied; the breakage appears to have occurred at the most vulnerable point of the wing." The evidence is incomplete, but the aircraft was probably operating at, or close to, its weight and balance limits. "In May 2005 he bought the light aircraft, the Zenair G-YOXI as a quick build kit from Czech Aircraft Works." "Half of the plane, including the wings and the fuselage, had been pre-constructed in the factory." Just sharing some information with fellow builders in our group here. Forgive me for beating this horse or kicking up a hornet's nest. I am currently working on my 601's wings, and remain confident in the design when operated withing normal parameters. Didn't Zenith cut their ties to CZAW a while back...? Patrick 601XL/Corvair Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=114414#114414 ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 10:52:20 AM PST US Subject: Zenith-List: Re: Zip fly-in workshop great turn-out! From: "Tim Juhl" I was there too.... didn't realize that Craig was a frequent poster to the group or I would have harassed him more. Most of the Zeniths in attendance were older designs but the Canadians demonstrated their well known hospitality yet again. I enjoyed talking with Gary Loubert from Sensornetics who is about to unveil a lower cost EFIS and EIS that should give Dynon a run for their money. Tim Juhl -------- DO NOT ARCHIVE ______________ CFII Champ L16A flying Zodiac XL - Jabiru 3300A Working on wings Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=114415#114415 ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 11:04:47 AM PST US Subject: Zenith-List: Re: Zodiac 601-XL From: "Tim Juhl" I assume you've seen these http://www.zenithair.com/zodiac/xl/lycoming.html -------- DO NOT ARCHIVE ______________ CFII Champ L16A flying Zodiac XL - Jabiru 3300A Working on wings Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=114417#114417 ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 11:17:35 AM PST US Subject: Zenith-List: Re: More Press Coverage on G-YOXI From: "Gig Giacona" And the most important part... > They had pulled up sharply as they approached some power cables, causing the wing spar to snap. -------- W.R. "Gig" Giacona 601XL Under Construction See my progress at www.peoamerica.net/N601WR Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=114419#114419 ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 12:47:03 PM PST US Subject: Zenith-List: Builder in Dallas Area with Wings Complete? 601XL From: "jonaburns" Is there anyone out there in the Dallas area that would be willing to let me take a look at your completed / almost complete wings? I am having trouble with proper fit of the skins and wing tip. I am working on the right wing, and hope that I do not need to build another... Jon Burns Little Elm, TX 601XL - Tail Complete, working on wings. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=114429#114429 ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 05:17:55 PM PST US From: David Downey Subject: Zenith-List: drill for sale on eBay for sale: 170115151197 I now have way too many air drills so am selling one of them. This is a nice tight aircraft drill. It is a 5000 rpm model with a nice tease throttle. I have used it and like it but now have one I like better! It would be nice if it found a home in the airplane builders world. Dave Downey Harleysville (SE) PA Zodiac 601XL/Corvair? --------------------------------- Be a better Heartthrob. Get better relationship answers from someone who knows. Yahoo! Answers - Check it out. ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 08:01:24 PM PST US Subject: Zenith-List: Re: 601XL Fuselage build before wings From: "Ron Lendon" Andy, Here is the process I followed so far. Make all the forms first. Made the rudder, Stabilizer, Elevator w/trim tab, Made all the ribs for the Flaps and Ailerons, Form & Skin the flaps, Trim & Form all wing nose ribs, Form & Skin the Aileron, Form & trim all rear wing ribs, Layed out one wing spar web but made two (had them stacked), (Used the spar webs as the drilling template for the spar caps and cap angles, made both wing spars.), Made the Center Spars, Set Dihedral, Form both fuel tanks, Build up the left wing skeleton, Make both left and right top & bottom wing skins, The left wing is on the table and nearing completion. The right one will go a lot faster because much less going on inside it and many of the parts are already made. -------- Ron Lendon, Clinton Township, MI Corvair Zodiac XL, ScrapBuilder ;-) http://www.mykitlog.com/rlendon Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=114480#114480 ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 11:11:44 PM PST US Subject: Zenith-List: Re: Builder in Dallas Area with Wings Complete? 601XL From: "TxDave" Hello Jon, I'm in Temple. I don't know if that's too far for you to drive. I have one wing complete. Photos posted on my website. Let me know if i can help. http://www.daves601xl.com/Links/photo_updates/finished_wing/finished_wing.html Dave Clay Temple, TX 601XL scratch builder Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=114498#114498 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message zenith-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Zenith-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/zenith-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/zenith-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.