---------------------------------------------------------- Zenith-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Wed 05/30/07: 31 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 03:59 AM - Re: Rotax912ULS/ZodiacXL - selection of propeller??? (Martin Pohl) 2. 04:44 AM - Re: Re: Rotax912ULS/ZodiacXL - selection of propeller??? (Dave Austin) 3. 05:10 AM - Re: new to the list (Art Gibeaut) 4. 08:55 AM - Re: Rotax912ULS/ZodiacXL - selection of propeller??? (Gig Giacona) 5. 10:30 AM - email photo ? (Aaron Gustafson) 6. 10:55 AM - Re: email photo ? (LarryMcFarland) 7. 11:06 AM - Re: 601XL project for sale (TxDave) 8. 11:12 AM - Re: Rotax912ULS/ZodiacXL - selection of propeller??? (flyingmike9) 9. 11:31 AM - Re: email photo ? (Tim Juhl) 10. 12:21 PM - Re: Rotax912ULS/ZodiacXL - selection of propeller??? (SkipperClyde) 11. 12:57 PM - Re: Electrical System (T. Graziano) 12. 01:21 PM - Re: Re: email photo ? (Dino Bortolin) 13. 01:22 PM - Re: Re: Rotax912ULS/ZodiacXL - selection of propeller??? (rsteele@rjsit.com) 14. 01:34 PM - Re: Rotax912ULS/ZodiacXL - selection of propeller??? (Gig Giacona) 15. 02:32 PM - Re: Re: Rotax912ULS/ZodiacXL - selection of propeller??? (David Mikesell) 16. 03:53 PM - Corvair/Zenith engine mounts (Bill Naumuk) 17. 04:38 PM - Re: Re: Electrical System (Paul Mulwitz) 18. 04:55 PM - Re: Re: Rotax912ULS/ZodiacXL - selection of propeller??? (David Mikesell) 19. 05:00 PM - Re: Corvair/Zenith engine mounts (Ben Ramler) 20. 05:12 PM - Re: Re: Rotax912ULS/ZodiacXL - selection of propeller??? (Juan Vega) 21. 05:12 PM - Re: email photo ? (Aaron Gustafson) 22. 05:12 PM - Re: Re: Rotax912ULS/ZodiacXL - selection of propeller??? (Juan Vega) 23. 05:14 PM - Re: Re: Rotax912ULS/ZodiacXL - selection of propeller??? (Juan Vega) 24. 05:21 PM - Re: Corvair/Zenith engine mounts (Craig Payne) 25. 05:23 PM - Re: Corvair/Zenith engine mounts (Jerry Hey) 26. 05:24 PM - Re: Corvair/Zenith engine mounts (Craig Payne) 27. 05:52 PM - Re: Corvair/Zenith engine mounts (Ben Ramler) 28. 06:14 PM - Re: xxx Re: Corvair/Zenith engine mounts/701 (John Bolding) 29. 06:38 PM - Re: Corvair/Zenith engine mounts (Jerry Hey) 30. 07:24 PM - Re: Flight instructor (NYTerminat@aol.com) 31. 07:54 PM - Main gear axle drilling guide (Tim Juhl) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 03:59:31 AM PST US Subject: Zenith-List: Re: Rotax912ULS/ZodiacXL - selection of propeller??? From: "Martin Pohl" Hi Larry & George Thank you for your propeller and performance information! I am still considering a constant speed prop... Cheers Martin My homepage is and will be in german only... -------- Martin Pohl Zodiac XL QBK 8645 Jona, Switzerland www.pohltec.ch/ZodiacXL Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=115515#115515 ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 04:44:58 AM PST US From: "Dave Austin" Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Re: Rotax912ULS/ZodiacXL - selection of propeller??? The Arplast prop can be made "constant speed" by a small control unit they now sell. Dave Austin 601HDS - 912, Spitfire Mk VIII ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 05:10:38 AM PST US From: Art Gibeaut Subject: Re: Zenith-List: new to the list Hey Ben. I just got started on the 701 having attended the Zenith Workshop in March of '07 and really enjoyed it. My wife went with me and that really helped as she was quite involved right from the beginning. I am buying the components kit, and have completed the rudder, elevator, and horizontal stabilizer, and I picked up my wing and fuel system kits on May 17. I have the right wing, spar and ribs built except for a couple of minor touches. The kit is well built, straightforward, and I find the prints quite easy to read. You have to take your time and study just a bit, but that is part of the experience. This is my first attempt at building and I wish I had done it sooner. I love it. I had a test flight in the 701 in Mexico, MO and the visibility with the bubble doors is very good. If you can find a way to go to a Rudder Workshop, do it, or just visit the factory and take a test flight. The folks in Mexico are very nice and extremely helpful with everything I've needed since I started. There are at least 3 701's being built here near the Quad-Cities and one of them is plans built and about to fly. As they say on the Zenith promotional video, "Just do it". Take care. Do not archive --- Ben Ramler wrote: > Hi everyone, > > My name is Ben Ramler. I used to be a member of the > list. I discontinued my membership because I was on > to many lists. I find myself rejoining because I > still have an interest in the 701. I'm interested in > the 701 because I like the low and slow capability > that it offers. for me speed is not required. I was > wondering if there any 701 owners in the upper > midwest or Minnesota. How are the kits? what is > visibility like out of them? > > Thanks & take Care, > > Ben > Central MN > > > > http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=list&sid=396545469 http://mobile.yahoo.com/go?refer=1GNXIC ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 08:55:50 AM PST US Subject: Zenith-List: Re: Rotax912ULS/ZodiacXL - selection of propeller??? From: "Gig Giacona" I know that both Dave and Martin are not in the US so this doesn't apply to them but for the archive... If you install an inflight adjustable prop on either a 601 or 701 it is no longer legal for LSA flight. -------- W.R. "Gig" Giacona 601XL Under Construction See my progress at www.peoamerica.net/N601WR Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=115569#115569 ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 10:30:23 AM PST US From: "Aaron Gustafson" Subject: Zenith-List: email photo ? Is it possible to include a picture with a posted message now or how is that done? Aaron Gustafson 601HD fly within a week ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 10:55:19 AM PST US From: LarryMcFarland Subject: Re: Zenith-List: email photo ? Aaron, It's better if you have a link to a site you maintain for pictures and just place the address and link info for the page in your messages. Saves lots of download time and not everyone wants to have to download your image to read the message. Click link from side below. http://www.macsmachine.com/images/completion/full/601ezftrleft.gif Larry McFarland at www.macsmachine.com Aaron Gustafson wrote: > > > Is it possible to include a picture with a posted message now or how > is that done? > > Aaron Gustafson 601HD fly within a week ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 11:06:37 AM PST US Subject: Zenith-List: Re: 601XL project for sale From: "TxDave" My project is sold. do not archive Dave Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=115590#115590 ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 11:12:28 AM PST US Subject: Zenith-List: Re: Rotax912ULS/ZodiacXL - selection of propeller??? From: "flyingmike9" i log onto his web site which is very good with Yahoo and it translates the text into english a few words are nor correct put you get a better idea mike rstone4(at)hot.rr.com wrote: > Hay Martin, > Do you have an English version of your web site. Maybe I should say an > American version since we all here in the US speak American which is based > on English but not quite the same. > > Tracy Stone > Harker Heights, Tx > Zodiac601XL w/Jabiru 330 > > > --- Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=115594#115594 ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 11:31:03 AM PST US Subject: Zenith-List: Re: email photo ? From: "Tim Juhl" Yes - under "Post a Reply" enter your message and click "add an attachment" - another box will appear prompting you to "choose file"... you click that and select the file on your computer you want to upload. Under "file comment" simply tell what it is. When ready click "add attachment." Important - keep your file size small. Learn how to use your graphics software to reduce the size of each file to be uploaded. This can be done without losing too much quality. I use photoshop and under "File" it gives a choice of "Save for Web" which helps a lot. Tim -------- DO NOT ARCHIVE ______________ CFII Champ L16A flying Zodiac XL - Jabiru 3300A Working on wings Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=115597#115597 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/105e_115.jpg ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 12:21:45 PM PST US Subject: Zenith-List: Re: Rotax912ULS/ZodiacXL - selection of propeller??? From: "SkipperClyde" Gig Giacona wrote: > I know that both Dave and Martin are not in the US so this doesn't apply to them but for the archive... > > If you install an inflight adjustable prop on either a 601 or 701 it is no longer legal for LSA flight. You should also be aware that once an airplane no longer meets the requirments for LSA, it can't ever be registerd as an LSA again. SkipperClyde 601XL O-235 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=115608#115608 ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 12:57:49 PM PST US From: "T. Graziano" Subject: Zenith-List: Re: Electrical System During my build, I used a 12V battery pack from a cordless drill (a 14V pack could also be used), to run preliminary checks of continuity/operation and also preliminary "smoke tests" ** (the amperage in the battery pack is a heck of a lot less than using a 12/14 volt aircraft battery). When I ran my first smoke test on all systems before first flight, everything worked! ** As has been stated by many "experts", Electrical systems work by having smoke run through the wiring. As long as the smoke stays in the wiring, everything is ok. Tony Graziano 601XL/Jab3300; N493TG ; 245 hrs ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 01:21:01 PM PST US From: "Dino Bortolin" Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Re: email photo ? For anybody that needs a free image program, the Irfanview image viewer from www.irfanview.com displays every image format and has an easy to use resize feature. Dino do not archive On 5/30/07, Tim Juhl wrote: > > > Yes - under "Post a Reply" enter your message and click "add an > attachment" - another box will appear prompting you to "choose file"... you > click that and select the file on your computer you want to upload. Under > "file comment" simply tell what it is. When ready click "add attachment." > > Important - keep your file size small. Learn how to use your graphics > software to reduce the size of each file to be uploaded. This can be done > without losing too much quality. I use photoshop and under "File" it gives > a choice of "Save for Web" which helps a lot. > > Tim > > -------- > DO NOT ARCHIVE > ______________ > CFII > Champ L16A flying > Zodiac XL - Jabiru 3300A > Working on wings > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=115597#115597 > > > Attachments: > > http://forums.matronics.com//files/105e_115.jpg > > ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 01:22:13 PM PST US From: rsteele@rjsit.com Subject: RE: Zenith-List: Re: Rotax912ULS/ZodiacXL - selection of propeller??? I'm sure you are correct about this. However the planes we build at home are not LSA planes anyway. They are Amature Homebuilt Experimental. The Sport Pilot rule does not require that the the SP fly only and LSA, but rather any plane that meats the LSA rule - which the "stock" 601 does. I'd be curious how an LSA updated with CS prop would be classifed. It might actually be unflyable in the US as it no longer meets the LSA rule, isn't experimental and certainly isn't certified. Ron > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: Zenith-List: Re: Rotax912ULS/ZodiacXL - selection of > propeller??? > From: "SkipperClyde" > Date: Wed, May 30, 2007 12:20 pm > To: zenith-list@matronics.com > > > > Gig Giacona wrote: > > I know that both Dave and Martin are not in the US so this doesn't > apply to them but for the archive... > > > > If you install an inflight adjustable prop on either a 601 or 701 it > is no longer legal for LSA flight. > > > You should also be aware that once an airplane no longer meets the > requirments for LSA, it can't ever be registerd as an LSA again. > > > SkipperClyde > 601XL O-235 > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=115608#115608 > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 01:34:29 PM PST US Subject: Zenith-List: Re: Rotax912ULS/ZodiacXL - selection of propeller??? From: "Gig Giacona" I doubt it would be any different than a C-150 that you yanked of the original prop and installed an in-flight adjustable without a STC. Not Airworthy. I asked the FSDO about this question. I can't find the e-mails but I gave them a couple of scenarios and asked if it would be LSA legal. One was an in-flight adjustable that had an out of cockpit lockout that could be set to turn off the in-flight adjustability when being used under the LSA rules. They said no. I also asked about what if I put an in-flight adjustable on now and flew it as a PSEL and then later decided to convert it to a ground adjustable prop and fly it as an LSA and they didn't give me a solid yes or no. When I asked about it during a follow up phone call they said they were asking higher authority because of an issue they did know about but they weren't 100% sure if it would carry over to a Homebuilt or not. They never did get back to me. The issue was if a plane was ever granted airworthiness status that made it not LSA legal it could not be changed back to LSA legal status. The example they gave me was certain models and mods to the Ercoupe. I may have my model numbers wrong but basically the C model is LSA legal and the D isn't. The difference is Max GW. There is a mod that can be applied to the C that makes it a D and if that mod has been applied it can never be a LSA legal plane again even if you remove whatever that mod was. Just for the record this was the Little Rock AR FSDO. [quote="rsteele(at)rjsit.com"]I'm sure you are correct about this. However the planes we build at home are not LSA planes anyway. They are Amature Homebuilt Experimental. The Sport Pilot rule does not require that the the SP fly only and LSA, but rather any plane that meats the LSA rule - which the "stock" 601 does. I'd be curious how an LSA updated with CS prop would be classifed. It might actually be unflyable in the US as it no longer meets the LSA rule, isn't experimental and certainly isn't certified. Ron -------- W.R. "Gig" Giacona 601XL Under Construction See my progress at www.peoamerica.net/N601WR Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=115627#115627 ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 02:32:11 PM PST US From: "David Mikesell" Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Re: Rotax912ULS/ZodiacXL - selection of propeller??? Ok, as long as a plane meets LSA criteria it can be flown by a SP. If you build a plane with a inflight adjustable prop then remove it later for a fixed pitch, and the rest of the plane is still LSA criteria then yes a SP can fly it. You can fly any plane that meets the criteria even if it is IFR rated, just as long as the landing gear is fixed, ground adjustable prop and top speed below 238 mph and gross weight less than 1380lbs. As a home built you can remove the cs prop and change it to fixed or viseversa with just a log book entry and a corrected weight and balance, with a certified airplane that is a whole new kettle of fish that requires a 337 be filed and atleast a field approval before flight. Mentioning the mod to the C to made it a D, yeah even if you remove the mod it is still a D until all the paper work is done, including the 337 and verification by your local FAA inspector. David Mikesell 23597 N. Hwy 99 Acampo, CA 95220 209-224-4485 skyguynca@skyguynca.com www.skyguynca.com ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 03:53:40 PM PST US From: "Bill Naumuk" Subject: Zenith-List: Corvair/Zenith engine mounts Corvair people- I'm to the point where I have to remove the short bolts already tack welded into the firewall engine mounts, and need to know the least destructive way of getting rid of the old ones. Do I have to beef up the existing parts, or should I even go so far as to make new ones? Bill Naumuk HDS Fuse/Corvair Townville, Pa ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 04:38:16 PM PST US From: Paul Mulwitz Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Re: Electrical System You forgot to mention that the special smoke you use to test your wiring can only be seen if you look at it through a mirror. It is all just "Smoke and Mirrors". do not archive At 06:30 AM 5/30/2007, you wrote: >** As has been stated by many "experts", Electrical systems work by >having smoke run through the wiring. As long as the smoke stays in >the wiring, everything is ok. ________________________________ Message 18 ____________________________________ Time: 04:55:46 PM PST US From: "David Mikesell" Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Re: Rotax912ULS/ZodiacXL - selection of propeller??? OOOOPSSSSSSSS, speed should be 138mph not 238 David Mikesell 23597 N. Hwy 99 Acampo, CA 95220 209-224-4485 skyguynca@skyguynca.com www.skyguynca.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Mikesell" Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2007 2:28 PM Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Re: Rotax912ULS/ZodiacXL - selection of propeller??? > > > Ok, as long as a plane meets LSA criteria it can be flown by a SP. If you > build a plane with a inflight adjustable prop then remove it later for a > fixed pitch, and the rest of the plane is still LSA criteria then yes a SP > can fly it. You can fly any plane that meets the criteria even if it is > IFR rated, just as long as the landing gear is fixed, ground adjustable > prop and top speed below 238 mph and gross weight less than 1380lbs. As a > home built you can remove the cs prop and change it to fixed or viseversa > with just a log book entry and a corrected weight and balance, with a > certified airplane that is a whole new kettle of fish that requires a 337 > be filed and atleast a field approval before flight. Mentioning the mod to > the C to made it a D, yeah even if you remove the mod it is still a D > until all the paper work is done, including the 337 and verification by > your local FAA inspector. > > David Mikesell > 23597 N. Hwy 99 > Acampo, CA 95220 > 209-224-4485 > skyguynca@skyguynca.com > www.skyguynca.com > > > ________________________________ Message 19 ____________________________________ Time: 05:00:40 PM PST US From: Ben Ramler Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Corvair/Zenith engine mounts that to brings me to my next question in the 701's is anyone even running corvair? I'm sitting on a corvair engine and it would be nice to use it. Ben 701 wanna-be ----- Original Message ---- From: Bill Naumuk Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2007 5:49:11 PM Subject: Zenith-List: Corvair/Zenith engine mounts Corvair people- I'm to the point where I have to remove the short bolts already tack welded into the firewall engine mounts, and need to know the least destructive way of getting rid of the old ones. Do I have to beef up the existing parts, or should I even go so far as to make new ones? Bill Naumuk HDS Fuse/Corvair Townville, Pa Don't get soaked. Take a quick peak at the forecast with the Yahoo! Search weather shortcut. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/shortcuts/#loc_weather ________________________________ Message 20 ____________________________________ Time: 05:12:32 PM PST US From: Juan Vega Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Re: Rotax912ULS/ZodiacXL - selection of propeller??? keep in mind the 138 mph speed limit is at sea level so a plane that cruises at 160 mph at 7500 feet is still within lsa bounds. the limit is the speed at sea level. -----Original Message----- >From: David Mikesell >Sent: May 30, 2007 7:53 PM >To: zenith-list@matronics.com >Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Re: Rotax912ULS/ZodiacXL - selection of propeller??? > > >OOOOPSSSSSSSS, speed should be 138mph not 238 > >David Mikesell >23597 N. Hwy 99 >Acampo, CA 95220 >209-224-4485 >skyguynca@skyguynca.com >www.skyguynca.com >----- Original Message ----- >From: "David Mikesell" >To: >Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2007 2:28 PM >Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Re: Rotax912ULS/ZodiacXL - selection of >propeller??? > > >> >> >> Ok, as long as a plane meets LSA criteria it can be flown by a SP. If you >> build a plane with a inflight adjustable prop then remove it later for a >> fixed pitch, and the rest of the plane is still LSA criteria then yes a SP >> can fly it. You can fly any plane that meets the criteria even if it is >> IFR rated, just as long as the landing gear is fixed, ground adjustable >> prop and top speed below 238 mph and gross weight less than 1380lbs. As a >> home built you can remove the cs prop and change it to fixed or viseversa >> with just a log book entry and a corrected weight and balance, with a >> certified airplane that is a whole new kettle of fish that requires a 337 >> be filed and atleast a field approval before flight. Mentioning the mod to >> the C to made it a D, yeah even if you remove the mod it is still a D >> until all the paper work is done, including the 337 and verification by >> your local FAA inspector. >> >> David Mikesell >> 23597 N. Hwy 99 >> Acampo, CA 95220 >> 209-224-4485 >> skyguynca@skyguynca.com >> www.skyguynca.com >> >> >> >> >> > > ________________________________ Message 21 ____________________________________ Time: 05:12:35 PM PST US From: "Aaron Gustafson" Subject: Re: Zenith-List: email photo ? > It's better if you have a link to a site you maintain for pictures and Thanks I forgot that I can link to Photobucket Aaron do not archive ________________________________ Message 22 ____________________________________ Time: 05:12:40 PM PST US From: Juan Vega Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Re: Rotax912ULS/ZodiacXL - selection of propeller??? the weight is 1320lbs, a bit higher for the anfib lSAs. -----Original Message----- >From: David Mikesell >Sent: May 30, 2007 7:53 PM >To: zenith-list@matronics.com >Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Re: Rotax912ULS/ZodiacXL - selection of propeller??? > > >OOOOPSSSSSSSS, speed should be 138mph not 238 > >David Mikesell >23597 N. Hwy 99 >Acampo, CA 95220 >209-224-4485 >skyguynca@skyguynca.com >www.skyguynca.com >----- Original Message ----- >From: "David Mikesell" >To: >Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2007 2:28 PM >Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Re: Rotax912ULS/ZodiacXL - selection of >propeller??? > > >> >> >> Ok, as long as a plane meets LSA criteria it can be flown by a SP. If you >> build a plane with a inflight adjustable prop then remove it later for a >> fixed pitch, and the rest of the plane is still LSA criteria then yes a SP >> can fly it. You can fly any plane that meets the criteria even if it is >> IFR rated, just as long as the landing gear is fixed, ground adjustable >> prop and top speed below 238 mph and gross weight less than 1380lbs. As a >> home built you can remove the cs prop and change it to fixed or viseversa >> with just a log book entry and a corrected weight and balance, with a >> certified airplane that is a whole new kettle of fish that requires a 337 >> be filed and atleast a field approval before flight. Mentioning the mod to >> the C to made it a D, yeah even if you remove the mod it is still a D >> until all the paper work is done, including the 337 and verification by >> your local FAA inspector. >> >> David Mikesell >> 23597 N. Hwy 99 >> Acampo, CA 95220 >> 209-224-4485 >> skyguynca@skyguynca.com >> www.skyguynca.com >> >> >> >> >> > > ________________________________ Message 23 ____________________________________ Time: 05:14:37 PM PST US From: Juan Vega Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Re: Rotax912ULS/ZodiacXL - selection of propeller??? another option is a ground adjustable propeller. -----Original Message----- >From: David Mikesell >Sent: May 30, 2007 5:28 PM >To: zenith-list@matronics.com >Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Re: Rotax912ULS/ZodiacXL - selection of propeller??? > > >Ok, as long as a plane meets LSA criteria it can be flown by a SP. If you >build a plane with a inflight adjustable prop then remove it later for a >fixed pitch, and the rest of the plane is still LSA criteria then yes a SP >can fly it. You can fly any plane that meets the criteria even if it is IFR >rated, just as long as the landing gear is fixed, ground adjustable prop and >top speed below 238 mph and gross weight less than 1380lbs. As a home built >you can remove the cs prop and change it to fixed or viseversa with just a >log book entry and a corrected weight and balance, with a certified airplane >that is a whole new kettle of fish that requires a 337 be filed and atleast >a field approval before flight. Mentioning the mod to the C to made it a D, >yeah even if you remove the mod it is still a D until all the paper work is >done, including the 337 and verification by your local FAA inspector. > >David Mikesell >23597 N. Hwy 99 >Acampo, CA 95220 >209-224-4485 >skyguynca@skyguynca.com >www.skyguynca.com > > ________________________________ Message 24 ____________________________________ Time: 05:21:41 PM PST US From: "Craig Payne" Subject: RE: Zenith-List: Corvair/Zenith engine mounts I have an unused set with the long bolts that you can have for free. Note that the upper mounts are the old style ones that are *not* integrated with the canopy attachment points. Picture attached. If you want them tell me where to send them. -- Craig ________________________________ Message 25 ____________________________________ Time: 05:23:24 PM PST US From: Jerry Hey Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Corvair/Zenith engine mounts Ben, I believe the Corvair is a bit heavy for the 701. Jerry 701 0% done. On May 30, 2007, at 8:00 PM, Ben Ramler wrote: > that to brings me to my next question in the 701's is anyone even > running corvair? I'm sitting on a corvair engine and it would be > nice to use it. > > Ben > 701 wanna-be > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: Bill Naumuk > To: zenith-list@matronics.com > Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2007 5:49:11 PM > Subject: Zenith-List: Corvair/Zenith engine mounts > > Corvair people- > I'm to the point where I have to remove the short bolts already > tack welded into the firewall engine mounts, and need to know the > least destructive way of getting rid of the old ones. Do I have to > beef up the existing parts, or should I even go so far as to make > new ones? > Bill Naumuk > HDS Fuse/Corvair > Townville, Pa > > > http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Zenith-List_- > ============================================================ _- > forums.matronics.com_- > =========================================================== > ________________________________ Message 26 ____________________________________ Time: 05:24:33 PM PST US From: "Craig Payne" Subject: RE: Zenith-List: Corvair/Zenith engine mounts > that to brings me to my next question in the 701's is anyone even running corvair? I'm sitting on a corvair engine and it would be nice to use it. William Wynne is working on it. Look a little down from the top of this page: http://www.flycorvair.com/hangar.html -- Craig ________________________________ Message 27 ____________________________________ Time: 05:52:53 PM PST US From: Ben Ramler Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Corvair/Zenith engine mounts ok thank you Jerry at least that answers that question. What do you think would be a good alternative to the 912? maybe VW? ----- Original Message ---- From: Jerry Hey Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2007 7:22:53 PM Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Corvair/Zenith engine mounts Ben, I believe the Corvair is a bit heavy for the 701. Jerry 701 0% done. On May 30, 2007, at 8:00 PM, Ben Ramler wrote: that to brings me to my next question in the 701's is anyone even running corvair? I'm sitting on a corvair engine and it would be nice to use it. Ben 701 wanna-be ----- Original Message ---- From: Bill Naumuk Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2007 5:49:11 PM Subject: Zenith-List: Corvair/Zenith engine mounts Corvair people- I'm to the point where I have to remove the short bolts already tack welded into the firewall engine mounts, and need to know the least destructive way of getting rid of the old ones. Do I have to beef up the existing parts, or should I even go so far as to make new ones? Bill Naumuk HDS Fuse/Corvair Townville, Pa - The Zenith-List Email Forum class="Apple-converted-space"> --> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Zenith-List - NEW MATRONICS WEB FORUMS - class="Apple-converted-space"> --> http://forums.matronics.com Check out fitting gifts for grads at Yahoo! Search http://search.yahoo.com/search?fr=oni_on_mail&p=graduation+gifts&cs=bz ________________________________ Message 28 ____________________________________ Time: 06:14:14 PM PST US From: "John Bolding" Subject: Re: xxx Re: Zenith-List: Corvair/Zenith engine mounts/701 Ben, Some think so but it has been done before if you search a bit and do some digging. John Lowther in New Zealand flew the first 701/vair about a yr ago. His empty weight was only 25# or so heavier than a typical 701/912. All his buddies that were giving him grief during the build process got very quiet when the airplane was weighed. John removed the Vair and installed a 912 after the test period, thinking the lighter (but not as much lighter as you might think)Rotax would perform as well as the Vair. Talked to him a month ago and he's planning on building up another Vair for his 701as he misses the YEEEEHAAAAAA on take off/climb and the low vibration, low rpm cruise he got with the Vair. There are 5-6 of us building this combo (including William Wynn now ) and several are getting close. Alum cyls are now avail (untried at this point but it isn't new technology, some teething pains expected) that save 18# so if you are serious about weight control on the rest of the airplane you will have a low cost PERFORMER. At the moment there are no FWF kits, you gotta roll your own mount, cowling,and a few other bits so if you are a kit only kinda guy this might be a show stopper for you but in a yr from now this will be a popular combo, you heard it here first. Do your own homework and ignore those who haven't done theirs. Been kinda quiet here lately,gotta do my part to keep it lively :) LOW&SLOW John ----- Original Message ----- From: Jerry Hey To: zenith-list@matronics.com Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2007 7:22 PM Subject: xxx Re: Zenith-List: Corvair/Zenith engine mounts Ben, I believe the Corvair is a bit heavy for the 701. Jerry 701 0% done. On May 30, 2007, at 8:00 PM, Ben Ramler wrote: that to brings me to my next question in the 701's is anyone even running corvair? I'm sitting on a corvair engine and it would be nice to use it. Ben 701 wanna-be ________________________________ Message 29 ____________________________________ Time: 06:38:29 PM PST US From: Jerry Hey Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Corvair/Zenith engine mounts Right now, I am looking at the direct drive VW with water cooled heads from Great Plains and/or I am also very attracted to an engine that does not yet exist which is the single rotor based on the Mazda rotary engine. I will not install less than 100 hp since I have very short (800 ft) grass field. I like the Jabiru and Rotax but they are out of my league financially. I like the Harley Hog engine too. It looks cool and sounds great. Jerry 701 0% done On May 30, 2007, at 8:51 PM, Ben Ramler wrote: > ok thank you Jerry at least that answers that question. What do > you think would be a good alternative to the 912? maybe VW? > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: Jerry Hey > To: zenith-list@matronics.com > Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2007 7:22:53 PM > Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Corvair/Zenith engine mounts > > Ben, I believe the Corvair is a bit heavy for the 701. Jerry > 701 0% done. > > On May 30, 2007, at 8:00 PM, Ben Ramler wrote: > >> that to brings me to my next question in the 701's is anyone even >> running corvair? I'm sitting on a corvair engine and it would be >> nice to use it. >> >> Ben >> 701 wanna-be >> >> ----- Original Message ---- >> From: Bill Naumuk >> To: zenith-list@matronics.com >> Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2007 5:49:11 PM >> Subject: Zenith-List: Corvair/Zenith engine mounts >> >> Corvair people- >> I'm to the point where I have to remove the short bolts >> already tack welded into the firewall engine mounts, and need to >> know the least destructive way of getting rid of the old ones. Do >> I have to beef up the existing parts, or should I even go so far >> as to make new ones? >> Bill Naumuk >> HDS Fuse/Corvair >> Townville, Pa >> >> >> - The Zenith-List Email Forum class="Apple-converted- >> space"> --> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Zenith- >> List - NEW MATRONICS WEB FORUMS - class="Apple- >> converted-space"> --> http://forums.matronics.com >> > > > Be a better Globetrotter. Get better travel answers from someone > who knows. > Yahoo! Answers - Check it out. > http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Zenith-List_- > ============================================================ _- > forums.matronics.com_- > =========================================================== > ________________________________ Message 30 ____________________________________ Time: 07:24:01 PM PST US From: NYTerminat@aol.com Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Flight instructor Since the list has been quiet lately, I offer the following: A photographer for CNN was assigned to cover southern California's Wildfires last year. He wanted pictures of the heroic work the Firefighters were doing as they battled the blazes. When the photographer arrived on the scene, he realized that the smoke was so thick it would seriously impede, or even make impossible, his getting good photographs from the ground level. He requested permission from his boss to rent a plane and take photos from the air. His request was approved and he used his cell phone to call the local County airport to charter a flight. He was told a single engine plane would be waiting for him at the airport. Arriving at the airfield, he spotted a plane warming up outside a hanger. He jumped in with his bag, slammed the door shut, and shouted, "Let's go".The pilot taxied out, swung the plane into the wind and roared down the runway. Once in the air, the photographer instructed the pilot, "Fly over the valley and make two or three low passes so I can take some pictures of the fires on the hillsides." "Why?" asked the pilot. "Because I'm a photographer for CNN," he responded. "And I need to get some close-up shots." The pilot was strangely silent for a moment, finally he stammered, "So, what you're telling me, is...you're NOT my flight instructor?"... ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. ________________________________ Message 31 ____________________________________ Time: 07:54:35 PM PST US Subject: Zenith-List: Main gear axle drilling guide From: "Tim Juhl" I seem to recall that at one time there was a main gear axle drilling guide that was being passed around. I'd gladly pay shipping both ways to borrow one. Thanks! 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