Today's Message Index:
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1. 01:58 AM - Re: 701 elevator cable.Weird problem (jetboy)
2. 03:28 AM - Re: Main gear axle drilling guide (Jari Kaija (LapTop2))
3. 12:50 PM - Fw: 601HD canopy (Clive Richards)
4. 01:28 PM - Fw: Electrical System (Clive Richards)
5. 02:24 PM - Re: Rotax912ULS/ZodiacXL - selection of propeller??? (Gig Giacona)
6. 03:09 PM - A happy day (Ralph Mirabal)
7. 03:09 PM - Re: Corvair/Zenith engine mounts (Bill Naumuk)
8. 03:22 PM - Short pieces (Bill Naumuk)
9. 03:34 PM - chrome nose strut (chris Sinfield)
10. 03:52 PM - Re: chrome nose strut (Craig Payne)
11. 04:02 PM - Re: chrome nose strut (Tom Henderson)
12. 04:09 PM - Re: chrome nose strut (David Downey)
13. 04:43 PM - Re: Corvair/Zenith engine mounts (Ben Ramler)
14. 04:43 PM - Re: Corvair/Zenith engine mounts (Ben Ramler)
15. 05:00 PM - Re: Corvair/Zenith engine mounts (Gary Boothe)
16. 05:47 PM - Re: A happy day (LarryMcFarland)
17. 05:57 PM - Re: chrome nose strut (LarryMcFarland)
18. 06:34 PM - NEW TOPIC (Ben Ramler)
19. 08:58 PM - Re: chrome nose strut (chris Sinfield)
20. 11:21 PM - Re: chrome nose strut (Bill Naumuk)
21. 11:29 PM - Re: NEW TOPIC (Bill Naumuk)
22. 11:35 PM - Official Zenith-List FAQ (Frequently Asked Questions) (Matt Dralle)
23. 11:40 PM - Official Zenith-List Usage Guidelines (Matt Dralle)
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| Subject: | Re: 701 elevator cable.Weird problem |
Thanks Bill (and others) I will check those things at the next interval 10 hrs
time. Have had no reply yet from ZAC. The drawing for the bellcrank has the top
hole at 120mm and lower one at 118.5, this is the standard Zenair dwng, there
is no CZAW alteration on this part. I will measure mine when I check it.
I have been unable to find rigging tension data for the 701 in the build manuals
or plans. My guess is there is none. How do you set the rudder when the cable
tension depends on the set of the nosewheel? (answer= with the nose off the
ground)
Looking at the plans, it is probably not possible to get the bellcrank holes ovet
to the actual centre of axis of rotation. So I will be trying a 2nd Bungee
to get the bias I'd prefer. I can live with it as is. But it would be nice to
have confirmation that it is as intended.
Ralph
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Ralph - CH701 / 2200a
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| Subject: | Re: Main gear axle drilling guide |
btw, it's simple enough to make from any L-shaped material. Alum,
steel....
http://www.project-ch701.net/ch701_fuselage/DSC03846.JPG
http://www.project-ch701.net/ch701_fuselage/DSC03847.JPG
http://www.project-ch701.net/ch701_fuselage/DSC03848.JPG
http://www.project-ch701.net/ch701_fuselage/DSC03849.JPG
http://www.project-ch701.net/ch701_fuselage/DSC03850.JPG
----- Original Message -----
From: Dennis Shoup
To: zenith-list@matronics.com
Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2007 4:55 PM
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Main gear axle drilling guide
Check the attached link for a drilling guide for $15 plus shipping.
http://www.kobushweldingandmachining.com/aircraft%20tools.htm
Dennis
On 5/30/07, Tim Juhl <juhl@avci.net> wrote:
I seem to recall that at one time there was a main gear axle
drilling guide that was being passed around. I'd gladly pay shipping
both ways to borrow one.
Thanks!
Tim
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CFII
Champ L16A flying
Zodiac XL - Jabiru 3300A
Working on wings
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Internet provider problems for 4 Days trying again to send
Clive
----- Original Message -----
From: Clive Richards
Cc: clive richards
Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2007 9:44 AM
Subject: Fw: Zenith-List: 601HD canopy
Sending again Internet service providor not passing on messages
----- Original Message -----
From: Clive Richards
Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2007 6:07 PM
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: 601HD canopy
Hi Bob 3 rd Try my messages are not appearing on
the list for some reason
In the interest of safety Ray Lasnier fitted the
forward opening 601 HD Retro Fit canopy the drawings should still be
available from ZAC
It will require welding a hinge point
bracket on the longerons & he used square section instead of tube along
the longerons.
The canopy will only open 6 to 9 inches if
the latches fail (Some one tested this in flight in the States should be
in the archives).
A number of side opening canopies have
departed the aircraft.
We used spring loaded latches at the rear
as designed & used by the late Ed Welanda. I can send you photo's
drawings of latches direct if you wish.
Clive Richards
G CBDG 601 HD Continental 0 200 120 Hrs
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From: George Swinford
To: zenith-list@matronics.com
Sent: Saturday, May 26, 2007 1:21 AM
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: 601HD canopy
Bob:
You might also want to look at alternate methods of hinging and
locking the side-opening canopy. I imagine you can find some reference
in the archives. One builder who employed an alternate method is Jeff
Small. He is still on the list and may be willing to share information
with you, as he did with me.
George
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----- Original Message -----
From: Bob Duns
To: zenith-list@matronics.com
Sent: Friday, May 25, 2007 7:42 AM
Subject: Zenith-List: 601HD canopy
I am slowly completing construction of 601HD from a kit and am at
point of installing the side-opening canopy that came with the kit.
Before beginning assembly I would like to research the pros and cons of
a front opening canopy. I know that George Pinneo (Zenair News #111 and
#116) and others have developed front opening canopies for the HD. I
would like to know George's and others comments from their experiences
with the modified front opening canopy. I would not be interested in
the XL type of canopy as it requires modification of the front fuselage.
Research of the archives has provided some assistance but any other
comments would be appreciated.
Bob Duns
Melfort, SK
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Date: 5/25/2007 12:32 PM
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| Subject: | Electrical System |
Sorry for deley in reply my internet service provider was not sending on
messages
Clive do not archive
----- Original Message -----
From: Clive Richards
Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2007 8:43 PM
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Electrical System
Hi Mike
I can send you a drawing of how we have wired
equivalent components on Rays 601 with a continental 0 200 if you wish
contact me off list
Clive Richards
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----- Original Message -----
From: Mike
To: jabiruengines@yahoogroups.com ; zenith-list@matronics.com
Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2007 7:33 AM
Subject: Zenith-List: Electrical System
I'm stumped and can't seem to move past the electrical phase of my
601XL Jab3300 project, and have grown tired of staring blankly at the
firewall. I already bought the following components, and really just
need a diagram to show how these particluar devices should be wired
together:
Key Ignition switch (the kid that has L-R-BOTH mag positions)
Cessna-style split master switch
Standard starter solenoid (provided by Jabiru)
Regulator (provided by Jabiru)
Mike F.
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| Subject: | Re: Rotax912ULS/ZodiacXL - selection of propeller??? |
Over $5000 for a prop!
Martin Pohl wrote:
> Check out this prop (which is already available for the Jabiru and will hopefully
be available for the Rotax in time...):
>
> Constant speed prop without controls in the cockpit - perhaps that would even
comply with LSA??? I will have a closer look at this prop for sure!!!
>
> Cheers Martin
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W.R. "Gig" Giacona
601XL Under Construction
See my progress at www.peoamerica.net/N601WR
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Hello! lady and gentleman, today is a very happy day for me, Mr. William W.
is back in town
today at noon I received a very nice phone call from WW he told me the
reason why he had not answer my phone call and email, was because he and
Grace were out of the country.
Mr. William told me " you will get some of the parts you order in about ten
days and that they are putting
two engine together and he is going to give me one of those engine, that
the engine will be ready in fourteen days for me to pick it up by me." And
that is a reason to be very happy, now I can keep my hd tdo corvair on
track, and I already put my pickup truck on stand by
Thank you all very much.
Ralph Mirabal
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| Subject: | Re: Corvair/Zenith engine mounts |
All-
As Sherlock Holmes would say, "Alternative plans are underfoot".
do not archive
Bill Naumuk
HDS Fuse/Corvair
Townville, Pa
----- Original Message -----
From: Gary Boothe
To: zenith-list@matronics.com
Sent: Friday, June 01, 2007 12:21 AM
Subject: RE: Zenith-List: Corvair/Zenith engine mounts
Ben,
Please note that you hi-jacked Bill's "Subject" about engine mounts.
Your questions will be lost in the List if you do not change your
Subject, and Bill's answers will be diluted by a different subject
matter.
Gary Boothe
Cool, CA
601 HDSTD, WW Conversion 90% done,
Tail done, wings done, working on c-section
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[mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ben Ramler
Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2007 5:00 PM
To: zenith-list@matronics.com
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Corvair/Zenith engine mounts
that to brings me to my next question in the 701's is anyone even
running corvair? I'm sitting on a corvair engine and it would be nice to
use it.
Ben
701 wanna-be
----- Original Message ----
From: Bill Naumuk <naumuk@alltel.net>
To: zenith-list@matronics.com
Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2007 5:49:11 PM
Subject: Zenith-List: Corvair/Zenith engine mounts
Corvair people-
I'm to the point where I have to remove the short bolts already
tack welded into the firewall engine mounts, and need to know the least
destructive way of getting rid of the old ones. Do I have to beef up the
existing parts, or should I even go so far as to make new ones?
Bill Naumuk
HDS Fuse/Corvair
Townville, Pa
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All-
We've all been in a situation where you need a REALLY small piece of
material. Something that would easily fit in a padded manila envelope.
To buy the ACS or Wick's minimum is overkill.
I'm in that position. I need either 9" of 1-1/2x1-1/2 extruded T6
angle, or a 4"x9" chunk of 4130x.050" steel. I have sheet T6 scraps
running from .016" through .125", some angle, and some spare AD
hardware.
Even trade, each party pays his own shipping.
Any takers?
do not archive
Bill Naumuk
HDS Fuse/Corvair
Townville, Pa
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| Subject: | chrome nose strut |
Hi All
I was going to chrome the nose strut areas where the strut slides through the blocks
untill the electroplaters gave me some advise.
They said that the areas would not hold up to the stress of a nose gear strut due
to hydrogen embrittlment. Hydrogen embrittlment will cause cracking unless
it is removed ( very expensive treatment) is that correct?
Have others chromed their nose gear strut?
Chris.
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| Subject: | chrome nose strut |
Scott did. As he is getting close to inspection and flying I guess we will
find out:
www.cooknwithgas.com/2_19_05_Nosewheel.jpg
www.cooknwithgas.com/2_19_05_Pedals.jpg
-- Craig
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| Subject: | Re: chrome nose strut |
Hydrogen Embrittlement is a very real concern with chrome plating. That process
is not recommended for use on any structural members. Bright Zinc is generally
suggested as an alternative. It doesn't quite match the chrome in aesthetics,
but it looks good and is fantastic for corrosion protection. It's also
a significantly cheaper process.
Hi All
I was going to chrome the nose strut areas where the strut slides through the blocks
untill the electroplaters gave me some advise.
They said that the areas would not hold up to the stress of a nose gear strut due
to hydrogen embrittlment. Hydrogen embrittlment will cause cracking unless
it is removed ( very expensive treatment) is that correct?
Have others chromed their nose gear strut?
Chris.
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| Subject: | Re: chrome nose strut |
don't quote me on this but all I believe that you need to do is bake the plated
component at 450F for a minimum of 4 hours to relieve the Hyd embrittlement.
If you can wait until next week (and remind me!!!) I will ask the metalurgists
here and get back to you.
do not archive.
chris Sinfield <chris_sinfield@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
Hi All
I was going to chrome the nose strut areas where the strut slides through the blocks
untill the electroplaters gave me some advise.
They said that the areas would not hold up to the stress of a nose gear strut due
to hydrogen embrittlment. Hydrogen embrittlment will cause cracking unless
it is removed ( very expensive treatment) is that correct?
Have others chromed their nose gear strut?
Chris.
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Dave Downey
Harleysville (SE) PA
Zodiac 601XL/Corvair?
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| Subject: | Re: Corvair/Zenith engine mounts |
No I don't think I did I asked about eninges and I don't see how "hijacked
anything". they kind of apply to each other.=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A----- Original M
essage ----=0AFrom: Gary Boothe <gboothe5@comcast.net>=0ATo: zenith-list@ma
tronics.com=0ASent: Thursday, May 31, 2007 11:21:56 PM=0ASubject: RE: Zenit
h-List: Corvair/Zenith engine mounts=0A=0A=0ABen,=0A =0APlease note that yo
u hi-jacked Bill=92s =93Subject=94 about engine mounts. Your questions will
be lost in the List if you do not change your Subject, and Bill=92s answer
s will be diluted by a different subject matter.=0A =0AGary Boothe =0ACool,
CA =0A601 HDSTD, WW Conversion 90% done, =0ATail done, wings done, working
on c-section =0A=0A=0A=0AFrom: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com [mai
lto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ben Ramler=0ASent:
Wednesday, May 30, 2007 5:00 PM=0ATo: zenith-list@matronics.com=0ASubject:
Re: Zenith-List: Corvair/Zenith engine mounts=0A =0Athat to brings me to m
y next question in the 701's is anyone even running corvair? I'm sitting on
a corvair engine and it would be nice to use it.=0A =0ABen=0A701 wanna-be
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m to the point where I have to remove the short bolts already tack welded i
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| Subject: | Re: Corvair/Zenith engine mounts |
if your so concenerd how do I change it?=0A=0A=0A----- Original Message ---
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m=0ASent: Thursday, May 31, 2007 11:21:56 PM=0ASubject: RE: Zenith-List: Co
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d Bill=92s =93Subject=94 about engine mounts. Your questions will be lost i
n the List if you do not change your Subject, and Bill=92s answers will be
diluted by a different subject matter.=0A =0AGary Boothe =0ACool, CA =0A601
HDSTD, WW Conversion 90% done, =0ATail done, wings done, working on c-sect
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| Subject: | Corvair/Zenith engine mounts |
Ben,
The original question was about fitting the engine mount, not about running
Corvair engines on a 701 (which is a very good subject all by itself).
When you hit the 'REPLY' button, merely tab down or click on 'Subject' and
make a change. That way future listers can refer to the subject you
intended, to get the information they are seeking.
I apologize if I seemed harsh. That was not my intent. My intent is to
preserve the value of all this information as a future data base. You may
not be aware that individuals can go to the Matronics site and do a "search"
on any topic. Those topics need to be kept as pure as possible.
I wish you the best of luck in your future building endeavor.
Gary Boothe
Cool, CA
601 HDSTD, WW Conversion 90% done,
Tail done, wings done, working on c-section
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From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ben Ramler
Sent: Friday, June 01, 2007 4:43 PM
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Corvair/Zenith engine mounts
if your so concenerd how do I change it?
----- Original Message ----
From: Gary Boothe <gboothe5@comcast.net>
Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2007 11:21:56 PM
Subject: RE: Zenith-List: Corvair/Zenith engine mounts
Ben,
Please note that you hi-jacked Bill's "Subject" about engine mounts. Your
questions will be lost in the List if you do not change your Subject, and
Bill's answers will be diluted by a different subject matter.
Gary Boothe
Cool, CA
601 HDSTD, WW Conversion 90% done,
Tail done, wings done, working on c-section
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From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ben Ramler
Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2007 5:00 PM
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Corvair/Zenith engine mounts
that to brings me to my next question in the 701's is anyone even running
corvair? I'm sitting on a corvair engine and it would be nice to use it.
Ben
701 wanna-be
----- Original Message ----
From: Bill Naumuk <naumuk@alltel.net>
Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2007 5:49:11 PM
Subject: Zenith-List: Corvair/Zenith engine mounts
Corvair people-
I'm to the point where I have to remove the short bolts already tack
welded into the firewall engine mounts, and need to know the least
destructive way of getting rid of the old ones. Do I have to beef up the
existing parts, or should I even go so far as to make new ones?
Bill Naumuk
HDS Fuse/Corvair
Townville , Pa
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Great news Ralph!
Larry
Ralph Mirabal wrote:
> <ralphmirabal@hotmail.com>
>
> Hello! lady and gentleman, today is a very happy day for me, Mr.
> William W. is back in town
> today at noon I received a very nice phone call from WW he told me
> the reason why he had not answer my phone call and email, was because
> he and Grace were out of the country.
> Mr. William told me " you will get some of the parts you order in
> about ten days and that they are putting
> two engine together and he is going to give me one of those engine,
> that the engine will be ready in fourteen days for me to pick it up
> by me." And that is a reason to be very happy, now I can keep my hd
> tdo corvair on track, and I already put my pickup truck on stand by
> Thank you all very much.
>
> Ralph Mirabal
>
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| Subject: | Re: chrome nose strut |
Chris,
You'd be better putting nylon bearings around the strut. This would
make it quieter, wear indefinitely and yes,
avoid hydrogen embrittlment, which in this case would not factor stress
wise unless you did it where the plate
and strut are welded together. Chrome is not a good dollar value here.
Go with nylon, delrin plastics
as available and you'll be much happier. Some have powder-coated struts
too with less than satisfactory results.
http://k-mac-plastics.net/index.htm
http://www.macsmachine.com/images/gear/full/upbrg.gif
http://www.macsmachine.com/images/gear/full/stratstops.gif
Larry McFarland
chris Sinfield wrote:
>
> Hi All
> I was going to chrome the nose strut areas where the strut slides through the
blocks untill the electroplaters gave me some advise.
>
> They said that the areas would not hold up to the stress of a nose gear strut
due to hydrogen embrittlment. Hydrogen embrittlment will cause cracking unless
it is removed ( very expensive treatment) is that correct?
>
> Have others chromed their nose gear strut?
>
> Chris.
>
>
>
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I will write the list owner and have the subjects changed. I cannot changed the
subject line on yahoo. sorry!
Check out tonight's top picks on Yahoo! TV.
http://tv.yahoo.com/
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| Subject: | Re: chrome nose strut |
Hi
Thanks for all the tips..
I have the plastic blocks from the kit and will just use paint on the strut and
repaint as required every few years..
Chris..
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=116017#116017
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| Subject: | Re: chrome nose strut |
All-
I was over to Lynn Dingfelder's last week to pick up my Corvair core and
noticed a Delrin top nose strut bearing on his enviable XL project. I said
"Oh, I see where you used Mac's bearings." Turns out the material came with
his kit. Can't ask for a better endorsement of what was originally a builder
mod than that!
do not archive
Bill Naumuk
HDS Fuse/Corvair
Townville, Pa
----- Original Message -----
From: "LarryMcFarland" <larry@macsmachine.com>
Sent: Friday, June 01, 2007 8:56 PM
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: chrome nose strut
>
> Chris,
> You'd be better putting nylon bearings around the strut. This would make
> it quieter, wear indefinitely and yes,
> avoid hydrogen embrittlment, which in this case would not factor stress
> wise unless you did it where the plate
> and strut are welded together. Chrome is not a good dollar value here.
> Go with nylon, delrin plastics
> as available and you'll be much happier. Some have powder-coated struts
> too with less than satisfactory results.
> http://k-mac-plastics.net/index.htm
> http://www.macsmachine.com/images/gear/full/upbrg.gif
> http://www.macsmachine.com/images/gear/full/stratstops.gif
>
> Larry McFarland
>
> chris Sinfield wrote:
>> <chris_sinfield@yahoo.com.au>
>>
>> Hi All
>> I was going to chrome the nose strut areas where the strut slides through
>> the blocks untill the electroplaters gave me some advise.
>>
>> They said that the areas would not hold up to the stress of a nose gear
>> strut due to hydrogen embrittlment. Hydrogen embrittlment will cause
>> cracking unless it is removed ( very expensive treatment) is that
>> correct?
>> Have others chromed their nose gear strut?
>>
>> Chris.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
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All-
In all fairness to Ben, postings don't seem to be working the way
they used to. You used to be able to post a question you didn't
necessarily want archived, let it bounce around for a couple of hours,
and then add "Do not archive" to kill it. Half the time, I can't see my
original post but other listers tell me that it showed up.
do not archive
Bill Naumuk
HDS Fuse/Corvair
Townville, Pa
----- Original Message -----
From: Ben Ramler
To: zenith-list@matronics.com
Sent: Friday, June 01, 2007 9:32 PM
Subject: Zenith-List: NEW TOPIC
I will write the list owner and have the subjects changed. I cannot
changed the subject line on yahoo. sorry!
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Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you sell.
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| Subject: | Official Zenith-List FAQ (Frequently Asked Questions) |
Dear Listers,
Please read over the Zenith-List Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ) below. The
complete Zenith-List FAQ including the Usage Guidelines can be found at the
following URL:
http://www.matronics.com/FAQs/Zenith-List.FAQ.html
Thank you,
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
[ Note: This FAQ was designed to be displayed with a fixed width font such as
Courier. Proportional fonts will cause display formatting errors. ]
This FAQ can also be viewed in HTML online at the following address:
http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Zenith-List.htm
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PLEASE READ. This document contains Zenith-List policies and information
for new and old subscribers. Understanding the Zenith-List policies will
minimize problems for the Administrator, and will help keep the Zenith-List
running smoothly for all of us.
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*** Quick Start Guide to List Features ***
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one is described in detailed below. However, using the List Navigator
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The Subscribe/Unsubscribe web page is:
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Note that you will receive TWO conformation emails regarding your subsciption
process. The first verifies that your subscription/unsubsciption request
was received, and the second confirms that the process has been completed.
You should receive the first email within a few minutes of your request.
The second conformation will arrive in less than 24 hours. You cannot post
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is checked and compared against the current subscription list. If the
email address is found, the message is passed on to the List Processor.
If the email address isn't found in the current list of subscribers, it
is dumped. This serves to very effectively thwart 99% of the SPAM that
gets posted to the Lists.
Remember, however, that the syntax of your email address is very important
with regard to the configuration of your email application such as Outlook
or Eudora. For example, the following two email addresses may be
functionally equivalent, but only one would pass the Matronics Email SPAM
test depending on which was syntax was subscribed to the given List:
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Either email address syntax is alright, just be sure that you configure
your email application to match *exactly* the address you've subscibed to
the List.
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is supported on the Lists. There are a number of restrictions, and these
are detailed below. Please abide by the rules put forth regarding the
content of enclosures.
These are some of the features and limits of enclosures on the Matronics
Lists:
1) Enclosures will only be posted to the Real Time version of the Lists.
2) Enclosures will NOT be included in the Daily Digest version of the Lists.
3) Enclosures WILL BE forwarded on to the BBS Forum Web site.
4) Enclosures will NOT be appended to the Archives.
5) Enclosures will NOT be available in the List Browse feature.
6) Only the following file types and extensions will be allowed:
bmp doc dwg dxf gif jpg pdf png txt xls
All other enclosures types will be rejected and email returned to
sender. The enclosure types listed above are relatively safe from
a virus standpoint and don't pose a particularly large security risk.
7) !! All incoming enclosures will be scanned for viruses prior to posting
to the List. This is done in real time and will not slow down
the process of posting the message !!
Here are some rules for posting enclosures. Failure to abide by these rules
could result in the removal of a subscriber's email address from the Lists.
1) Pay attention to what you are posting!! Make sure that the files
you are enclosing aren't HUGE (greater that 1MB). Remember that there
are still people checking they're email via dial up modem. If you post
30MB worth of pictures, you are placing an unnecessary burden on these
folks and the rest of us, for that matter.
2) SCALE YOUR PICTURES DOWN!!! I don't want to see huge 3000 x 2000
pictures getting posted that are 3 or 4MB each. This is just
unacceptable. Use a program such as Photoshop to scale the picture
down to something on the order of 800 x 600 and try to keep the
file size to less-than 200KB, preferably much less.
Microsoft has a really awesome utility available for free that allows
you to Right-Click on a picture in Explorer and automatically
scale it down and resave it. This is a great utility - get it, use it!
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/downloads/powertoys/xppowertoys.mspx
Look for the link "Image Resizer"
3) !! This would seem to go without saying, but I'll say it anyway. Do not
post anything that would be considered offensive by your grandmother.
And you know what I'm saying; I don't want to see anything even
questionable. !!
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subscribed, your 1MB enclosure must be resent 1000 times amounting
to 1MB X 1000 = 1 Gigabyte of network traffic!! BE CAREFUL and
BE COURTEOUS!
Also see the section below on the Matronics Photo and File Share where
you can have your files and photos posted on the Matronics web server
for long time viewing and availability.
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*** Digest Mode ***
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Each day, starting at 12 midnight PST US, a new 'digest' will be started.
This digest will contain the same information that is currently appended
to the archive file. It has all of the headers except for the "From:"
and "Subject:" lines removed, and includes a message separator consisting
of a line of underscores.
Each day at 23:55 PST US, the day's messages as described above will be
combined and sent as a single message to everyone on the digest email list.
To subscribe to the digest list, use the same subscription web form
described above, and just select the Digest version of the List.
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Note that you *can* be subscribed to both the realtime and digest versions
of the List at the same time. This is perfectly acceptable.
Now some caveats:
* Messages sent to "zenith-list-digest" will be forwarded to the standard
email list. In other words, you cannot post messages only to the
digest List.
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will receive the realtime postings as well as the digest at the end of
the day.
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normal list associated with the digest. Important Note: Please change
the subject line to reflect the topic of your response! Also, please
*do not include all or most of the digest in your reply*.
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or HTML format. These archives contain the exact Digest that was posted to
the Digest email list on the given day. The Digest Archives can be found
at the following location:
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*** The "DO NOT ARCHIVE" Message Flag ***
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At times, your message may concern something that is revelent only to a very
small number of persons or to a limited area, and you may not wish to archive
it. In such a case, simply put the following phrase anywhere in the
message:
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Your message will not be appended to the archive, but will be sent to List
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Note that if your email address begins to cause problems such as bounced
email, mailbox is filled, or any other errors, your address will be promptly
removed from the List. If you discover that you are no longer receiving
messages from the Zenith-List, go to the following Web page, and look
for your email address and a possible reason for your removal.
The Matronics Email List uses utility called the "Email Weasel" that
automatically looks though the day's bounced email for addresses that
caused problems due to common things like "user is unknown", "mailbox
full", etc. If the Email Weasel removes your email address from the
Lists you will find record of it at the following URL:
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If you have not done so already, please email me your phone numbers and
paper mail address in the following format:
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Please forward this information to the following email address:
requests@matronics.com
I have a file of such things, that I typically use to contact you when
there are problems with your email address. The information will NOT
be used for any other commercial purpose.
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*** Realtime Web Email List Browsing ***
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the Web for realtime browsing. Seven days worth of back postings are
available with this feature. The messages can be sorted by Subject,
Author, Date, or Message Thread. The Realtime List Browser indexes are
updated twice per hour at xx:15 and xx:45. You can also reply to a message
or start a new message directly from the List Browser Interface (coming soon).
You do not have to be subscribed to the given list to use the List
Browser Interface in view-mode.
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A phpBB BBS web Forums front end is available for all Zenith-List content.
content. The Forums contain all of the same content available via the email
distribution and found on the various archive viewing formats such as the
List Browse, etc. Any posts on the web Forums will be cross posted to the
respective email List, and posts to the Email List will be cross posted to
the web Forums.
You may view all List content on the Forums without any special login.
If you wish to post a message via the Web Forum interface, however, you
will need to Register. This is a simple process that takes only a few
minutes. A link to the Registration page can be found at the top of the
main web Forums page. Note that registering on the Forum web site also
enables you to send email posts to the Lists as well. You will also need to
Subscribe to the respective Email List as described above to receive the
Email Distribution of the List, however.
The Matroincs Email List Web BBS Forums can be found at the following URL:
http://forums.matronics.com
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In an attempt to make it easy to store and find structured and often accessed
information, Matronics has installed a Wiki at:
http://wiki.matronics.com
The Wiki allows individuals to create web pages to contain useful information
for other users of the mailing lists and web site. Unlike an ordinary web page
where the content needs to be submitted to Matronics for inclusion, the Wiki
permits the users to construct their own pages and have them visible immediately.
While constructing pages for the Wiki is not difficult, some may not be
comfortable building pages. In that case, simply prepare the text and any
images and email it to:
wiki-support@matronics.com
One of the volunteers on that list will take your submission and construct
a Wiki page for you.
Often someone produces a particularly useful posting in email one one of the
Lists that would be of general interest. In that case Matronics may take that
post and convert it into a Wiki page.
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*** List Archives ***
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A file containing of all of the previous postings to the Zenith-List is
available on line. The archive file information is available via the
Web and FTP in a number of forms. Each are briefly described below:
* Zenith-List.FAQ
- Latest version of the Zenith-List Frequently Asked Question
page (this document).
* Zenith-Archive.digest.complete
- Complete file with most of the email header info removed and
page breaks inserted between messages.
* Zenith-Archive.digest.vol-??
- Same as the file above, but broken up into small sections that
can more easily handled.
* Zenith-Archive.digest.complete.zip
- Same as the Zenith-Archive.digest.complete file above, but
in PKZIP format. Use "binary" data transfer methods.
* Zenith-Archive.digest.complete.Z
- Same as the Zenith-Archive.digest.complete file above, but in
UNIX compress format. Use "binary" data transfer methods.
Download Via FTP
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The archive file is available via anonymous FTP from ftp.matronics.com
in the "/pub/Archives" directory. It is updated daily and can be found in
a number of formats as described above. (All filenames are case sensitive.)
ftp://ftp.matronics.com/pub/Archives
Download Via Web
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The archives are also available via a web listing. These can be found
toward the bottom of the following web page:
http://www.matronics.com/archives
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*** Complete List Web Archive Browsing ***
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All messages posted to the Zenith-List are also available using the
Email List Archive Browsing feature. With this utility, all messages
in the List are indexed, and individual sub-archives can be browsed.
http://www.matronics.com/archive/archive-index.cgi?Zenith
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**** High-Speed Archive Search Engine ***
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You can use the custom, high-performance Matronics Email List Search Engine
to quickly locate and browse any messages that have been posted to the
List. The Engine allows the user to easily search any of the currently
available List archives.
http://www.matronics.com/search
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*** File and Photo Share ***
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With the Matronics Email List File and Photo Share you can share pictures
and other data with members of the List without having to forward a
copy of it to everyone. To share your Files and Photos, simply email
them to:
pictures@matronics.com
!! ==> Please including the following information with each submission:
1) Email Lists that they are related to.
2) Your Full Name.
3) Your Email Address.
4) One line Subject description.
5) Multi-line, multi-paragraph description of topic.
6-x) One-line Description of each photo or file
Prior to public availability of the files and photos, each will be scanned
for viruses. Please also note that the process of making the files and
photos available on the web site is a pseudo-manual process, and I try to
process them every few days.
Following the availability of the new Photoshare, an email message will be
sent to the Email Lists enumerated in 1) above indicating that the new
Share is available and what the direct URL to it is.
For a current list of available Photoshares, have a look at the Main
Index Page:
http://www.matronics.com/photoshare
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*** List Archive CDROM ***
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A complete Matronics Email List Archive CD is available that contains
all of the archives since the beginning of each of the Lists. The archives
for all of the Lists are included on the CD along with a freeware search
engine written by a list member. The CD is burned the day you order it
and will contain archive received up to the last minute. They make
great gifts!
http://www.matronics.com/ArchiveCDROM
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You won't find any PopUpAds, flashing Banner ads, or any other form of
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Your Contributions go directly to supporting the operation of the Lists
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Zenith-List Usage Guidelines
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The following details the official Usage Guidelines for the Zenith-List.
You are encouraged to read it carefully, and to abide by the rules therein.
Failure to use the Zenith-List in the manner described below may result
in the removal of the subscribers from the List.
Zenith-List Policy Statement
The purpose of the Zenith-List is to provide a forum of discussion for
things related to this particular discussion group. The List's goals
are to serve as an information resource to its members; to deliver
high-quality content; to provide moral support; to foster camaraderie
among its members; and to support safe operation. Reaching these goals
requires the participation and cooperation of each and every member of
the List. To this end, the following guidelines have been established:
- Please keep all posts related to the List at some level. Do not submit
posts concerning computer viruses, urban legends, random humor, long
lost buddies' phone numbers, etc. etc.
- THINK carefully before you write. Ask yourself if your post will be
relevant to everyone. If you have to wonder about that, DON'T send it.
- Remember that your post will be included for posterity in an archive
that is growing in size at an extraordinary rate. Try to be concise and
terse in your posts. Avoid overly wordy and lengthy posts and
responses.
- Keep your signature brief. Please include your name, email address,
aircraft type/tail number, and geographic location. A short line
about where you are in the building process is also nice. Avoid
bulky signatures with character graphics; they consume unnecessary
space in the archive.
- DON'T post requests to the List for information when that info is
easily obtainable from other widely available sources. Consult the
web page or FAQ first.
- If you want to respond to a post, DO keep the "Subject:" line of
your response the same as that of the original post. This makes it
easy to find threads in the archive.
- When responding, NEVER quote the *entire* original post in your
response. DO use lines from the original post to help "tune in" the
reader to the topic at hand, but be selective. The impact that
quoting the entire original post has on the size of the archive
can not be overstated!
- When the poster asks you to respond to him/her personally, DO NOT
then go ahead and reply to the List. Be aware that clicking the
"reply" button on your mail package does not necessarily send your
response to the original poster. You might have to actively address
your response with the original poster's email address.
- DO NOT use the List to respond to a post unless you have something
to add that is relevant and has a broad appeal. "Way to go!", "I
agree", and "Congratulations" are all responses that are better sent
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| Subject: | Official Zenith-List Usage Guidelines |
Dear Listers,
Please read over the Zenith-List Usage Guidelines below. The complete
Zenith-List FAQ including these Usage Guidelines can be found at the
following URL:
http://www.matronics.com/FAQs/Zenith-List.FAQ.html
Thank you,
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
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Zenith-List Usage Guidelines
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The following details the official Usage Guidelines for the Zenith-List.
You are encouraged to read it carefully, and to abide by the rules therein.
Failure to use the Zenith-List in the manner described below may result
in the removal of the subscribers from the List.
Zenith-List Policy Statement
The purpose of the Zenith-List is to provide a forum of discussion for
things related to this particular discussion group. The List's goals
are to serve as an information resource to its members; to deliver
high-quality content; to provide moral support; to foster camaraderie
among its members; and to support safe operation. Reaching these goals
requires the participation and cooperation of each and every member of
the List. To this end, the following guidelines have been established:
- Please keep all posts related to the List at some level. Do not submit
posts concerning computer viruses, urban legends, random humor, long
lost buddies' phone numbers, etc. etc.
- THINK carefully before you write. Ask yourself if your post will be
relevant to everyone. If you have to wonder about that, DON'T send it.
- Remember that your post will be included for posterity in an archive
that is growing in size at an extraordinary rate. Try to be concise and
terse in your posts. Avoid overly wordy and lengthy posts and
responses.
- Keep your signature brief. Please include your name, email address,
aircraft type/tail number, and geographic location. A short line
about where you are in the building process is also nice. Avoid
bulky signatures with character graphics; they consume unnecessary
space in the archive.
- DON'T post requests to the List for information when that info is
easily obtainable from other widely available sources. Consult the
web page or FAQ first.
- If you want to respond to a post, DO keep the "Subject:" line of
your response the same as that of the original post. This makes it
easy to find threads in the archive.
- When responding, NEVER quote the *entire* original post in your
response. DO use lines from the original post to help "tune in" the
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