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1. 03:20 AM - Re: Rotax Fuel Pump Replacement (Gordon)
2. 04:58 AM - Re: Re: Chat (Rob St Denis)
3. 07:00 AM - Re: joke for the day (cbaron66)
4. 08:54 AM - Data Plate (Tommy Walker)
5. 09:21 AM - Re: joke for the day (rickpitcher)
6. 09:25 AM - Re: joke for the day (rickpitcher)
7. 10:00 AM - Re: Re: joke for the day (robert stone)
8. 10:01 AM - Re: Re: joke for the day (robert stone)
9. 10:27 AM - Re: Re: joke for the day (Bryan Martin)
10. 12:55 PM - Re: Rotax Fuel Pump Replacement (Dan)
11. 03:51 PM - Gross Weight (Damien and Kathy)
12. 06:06 PM - Bending 6-B-21-1 & 2 (wade jones)
13. 06:48 PM - Re: Bending 6-B-21-1 & 2 (Craig Payne)
14. 06:54 PM - Re: Data Plate (LRM)
15. 06:54 PM - 701 Dynon pitot (Greg Alonso)
16. 07:26 PM - Zenith Builders Chat Room (leinad)
17. 10:19 PM - Re: Data Plate (nyterminat@aol.com)
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| Subject: | Re: Rotax Fuel Pump Replacement |
Dan,
I had the same issue. Lockwood promptly sent a new fuel pump and the
paperwork for the pump that was covered under warrantee.
Gordon
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dan" <dwilde@clearwire.net>
Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2007 5:30 PM
Subject: Zenith-List: Rotax Fuel Pump Replacement
>
> Question for the group:
>
> I am just getting started putting my new engine (912S) on my 701. On
> reading the Rotax Alert Service Bulletin I find my brand new engine came
> delivered with the fuel pump that must be replaced. Do I have to eat the
> cost of a new fuel pump or will Rotax or Zenith supply it?
>
> I will call Zenith tomorrow but am curious if others have had this issue
> and how it was resolved.
>
> Dan Wilde
>
>
>
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Go nuts thats what its there for. The site has plenty of bandwidth so could
handle a pile of people.
I will be there
On 6/7/07, leinad <leinad@hughes.net> wrote:
>
>
> Rob
> If it's OK with you I'd like to try using your chat? I've registered, and
> plan to be there Monday night (June 11) around 8:00 EST as a test. Anyone
> interested? What time would be convenient?
> Dan
>
>
> robertstdenis wrote:
> > Or what about us ch640 builders ?
> >
> > If ya want a chat, I set one up at chat.iahu.ca (http://chat.iahu.ca) a
> long time ago which is not being used
> >
> > Rob
> > Hanmer Ontario
> > ch640 stabilator (should be here soon the shops ready to roll)
> >
> > do not archive.
> >
> > ---
>
>
> --------
> Scratch building XL with Corvair Engine
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=117197#117197
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: joke for the day |
I don't want to sound like a nattering nabob of negativity but I'm afraid I also
belive like Larry does- this is no place for humor. Shouldn't this be a place
to learn about Zenith aircraft? If I want humor, I look in the mirror.
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Listers,
I think there used to be a builder on this list that custom made data plates.
I'm in need of one and thought I might contact him about making one.
Any help is appreciated.
Tommy Walker in Alabama
Do Not Archive
N8701 90+%
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Tommy Walker
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| Subject: | Re: joke for the day |
Australian Flight Review, Do Not Archive
Hi Mate,
I am writing to you because I need your help to get me bloody
pilot's
license back. You keep telling me you got all the right contacts.
Well now's your chance to make something happen for me because,
mate,
I'm bloody desperate.
But first, I'd better tell you what happened during my last flight
review with the CAA Examiner
On the phone, Ron (that's the CAA dickhead) seemed a reasonable sort
of a bloke. He politely reminded me of the need to do a flight
review
every two years. He even offered to drive out, have a look over my
property and let me operate from my own strip. Naturally I agreed to
that.
Anyway, Ron turned up last Wednesday. First up, he said he was a bit
surprised to see the plane on a small strip outside my homestead,
because the ALA (Authorised Landing Area) is about a mile away. I
explained that because this strip was so close to the homestead, it
was more convenient than the ALA, and despite the power lines
crossing about midway down the strip, it's really not a problem to
land and take-off, because at the halfway point down the strip
you're
usually still on the ground.
For some reason Ron seemed nervous. So, although I had done the pre-
flight inspection only four days earlier, I decided to do it all
over
again. Because the prick was watching me carefully, I walked around
the plane three times instead of my usual two.
My effort was rewarded because the colour finally returned to Ron's
cheeks. In fact, they went a bright red. In view of Ron's obviously
better mood, I told him I was going to combine the test flight with
some farm work, as I had to deliver three poddy calves from the home
paddock to the main herd. After a bit of a chase I finally caught
the
calves and threw them into the back of the ol' Cessna 172. We
climbed
aboard, but Ron started getting onto me about weight and balance
calculations and all that crap. Of course I knew that sort of thing
was a waste of time because, calves like to move around a bit
particularly when they see themselves 500 feet off the ground! So,
it's bloody pointless trying to secure them as you know. However, I
did tell Ron that he shouldn't worry as I always keep the trim wheel
set on neutral to ensure we remain pretty stable at all stages
throughout the flight.
Anyway, I started the engine and cleverly minimized the warm-up time
by tramping hard on the brakes and gunning her to 2,500 rpm. I then
discovered that Ron has very acute hearing, even though he was
wearing a bloody headset. Through all that noise he detected a
metallic rattle and demanded I account for it. Actually it began
about a month ago and was caused by a screwdriver that fell down a
hole in the floor and lodged in the fuel selector mechanism. The
selector can't be moved now , but it doesn't matter because it's
jammed on `All tanks', so I suppose that's Okay.
However, as Ron was obviously a nit-picker, I blamed the noise on
vibration from a stainless steel thermos flask which I keep in a
beaut little possie between the windshield and the magnetic compass.
My explanation seemed to relax Ron, because he slumped back in the
seat and kept looking up at the cockpit roof. I released the brakes
to taxi out, but unfortunately the plane gave a leap and spun to the
right. "Hell" I thought, "not the starboard wheel chock again".
The bump jolted Ron back to full alertness. He looked around just in
time to see a rock thown by the prop-wash disappear completely
through the windscreen of his brand new Commodore. "Now I'm really
in
trouble", I thought.
While Ron was busy ranting about his car, I ignored his requirement
that we taxi to the ALA, and instead took off under the power lines.
Ron didn't sa y a word, at least not until the engine started
coughing
right at the lift off point, and then he bloody screamed his head
off. "Oh God! Oh God! Oh God!"
"Now take it easy, Ron" I told him firmly. "That often happens on
take-off and there is a good reason for it". I explained patiently
that I usually run the plane on standard MOGAS, but one day I
accidentally put in a gallon or two of kerosene. To compensate for
the low octane of the kerosene, I siphoned in a few gallons of super
MOGAS and shook the wings up and down a few times to mix it up.
Since
then, the engine has been coughing a bit but in general it works
just
fine, if you know how to coax it properly.
Anyway, at this stage Ron seemed to lose all interest in my test
flight. He pulled out some rosary beads, closed his eyes and became
lost in prayer. (I didn't think anyone was a Catholic these days). I
selected some nice music on the HF radio to help him relax.
BR>Meanwhile, I climbed to my normal cruising altitude of 10,500
feet. I
don't normally put in a flight plan or get the weather because, as
you know getting FAX access out here is a friggin' joke and the
weather is always 8/8 blue anyway. But since I had that near miss
with a Saab 340, I might have to change me thinking on that.
Anyhow, on leveling out, I noticed some wild camels heading into my
improved pasture. I hate bloody camels, and always carry a loaded .
303 clipped inside the door of the Cessna just in case I see any of
the barstards.
We were too high to hit them, but as a matter of principle, I
decided
to have a go through the open window. Mate, when I pulled the bloody
rifle out, the effect on Ron was friggin' electric. As I fired the
first shot his neck lengthened by about six inches and his eyes
bulged like a rabbit with myxo. He really looked as if he had been
jabbed with an electric cattle prod on full pow er. In fact, Ron's
reaction was so distracting that I lost concentration for a second
and the next shot went straight through the port tyre. Ron was a bit
upset about the shooting (probably one of those pinko animal lovers
I
guess) so I decided not to tell him about our little problem with
the
tyre.
Shortly afterwards I located the main herd and decided to do my
fighter pilot trick. Ron had gone back to praying when, in one
smooth
sequence, I pulled on full flaps, cut the power and started a
sideslip from 10,500 feet down to 500 feet at 130 knots indicated
(the last time I looked anyway) and the little needle rushed up to
the red area on me ASI. What a buzz, mate! About half way through
the
descent I looked back in the cabin to see the calves gracefully
suspended in mid air and mooing like crazy. I was going to comment
on
this unusual sight, but Ron looked a bit green and had rolled
himself into the fetal position and w as screamin' his freakin' head
off. Mate, talk about being in a bloody zoo. You should've been
there, it was so bloody funny!
At about 500 feet I leveled out, but for some reason we kept
sinking.
When we reached 50 feet I applied full power but nothin' happened;
no
noise no nothin'. Then, luckily, I heard me instructor's voicein me
head saying "carby heat, carby heat". So I pulled carby heat on and
that helped quite a lot, with the engine finally regaining full
power. Whew, that was really close, let me tell you!
Then mate, you'll never guess what happened next! As luck would have
it, at that height we flew into a massive dust cloud caused by the
cattle and suddenly went I.F. bloody R, mate. BJ, you would have
been
really proud of me as I didn't panic once, not once, but I did make
a
mental note to consider an instrument rating as soon as me gyro is
repaired (something I've been meaning to do for a while now).
Sudden ly Ron's elongated neck and bulging eyes reappeared. His
mouth
opened wide, very wide, but no sound emerged. "Take it easy," I told
him, "we'll be out of this in a minute".
Sure enough, about a minute later we emerged, still straight and
level and still at 50 feet.
Admittedly I was surprised to notice that we were upside down, and I
kept thinking to myself, "I hope Ron didn't notice that I had
forgotten to set the QNH when we were taxiing". This minor
tribulation forced me to fly to a nearby valley in which I had to do
a half roll to get upright again.
By now the main herd had divided into two groups leaving a narrow
strip between them. "Ah!" I thought, "there's an omen. We'll land
right there." Knowing that the tyre problem demanded a slow
approach,
I flew a couple of steep turns with full flap. Soon the stall
warning
horn was blaring so loud in me ear that I cut it's circuit breaker
to
shut it up, but by then I knew we were slow enough anyway. I turned
steeply onto a 75 foot final and put her down with a real thud.
Strangely enough, I had always thought you could only ground loop in
a tail dragger but, as usual, I was proved wrong again!
Halfway through our third loop, Ron at last recovered his sense of
humour.
Talk about laugh. I've never seen the likes of it. He couldn't stop.
We finally rolled to a halt and I released the calves, who bolted
out
of the aircraft like there was no tomorrow.
I then began picking clumps of dry grass. Between gut wrenching fits
of laughter, Ron asked what I was doing. I explained that we had to
stuff the port tyre with grass so we could fly back to the
homestead.
It was then that Ron really lost the plot and started running away
from the aircraft. Can you believe it? The last time I saw him he
was
off into the distance, arms flailing in the air and still shrieking
with laughter. I later heard that he had been confined to a
psychiatric institution - poor bugger!
Anyhow mate, that's enough about Ron. The problem is I got this
letter from CASA withdrawing, as they put it, my privileges to fly;
until I have undergone a complete pilot training course again and
undertaken another flight proficiency test.
Now I admit that I made a mistake in taxiing over the wheel chock
and
not setting the QNH using strip elevation, but I can't see what else
I did that was a so bloody bad that they have to withdraw me flamin'
license. Can you?
Ralph H Bell
Mud Creek Plantation
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purplemoon99(at)bellsouth wrote:
> Rick, It sounds like I'am as gulity as every one else about over reacting
> about this"hawg" thing,so lets get back to building and helping each other.
> That hawg. that larry built is a 10+ and my Hog-Air now has a 130 Ram eng.
> in it.I will admit that hog's are a hard way to go,that's why we are
> experimental's Have a good night and fly safe. Joe N101HD 601XL The H D
> now stands for Hotel Delta
> ---
'S OK Joe, everyone has an off-day now and then when things just seem to rub them
the wrong way.
You're absolutely right about Larry's 701 Hawg: that's one good looking airplane.
Great job Larry :)
Rick
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| Subject: | Re: joke for the day |
Your story sounds too fantastic to be true. And I thought us "Yanks"
were the biggest bull shiters in the world
Tracy Stone
----- Original Message -----
From: "rickpitcher" <zodie@adelphia.net>
Sent: Friday, June 08, 2007 11:19 AM
Subject: Zenith-List: Re: joke for the day
>
> Australian Flight Review, Do Not Archive
>
> Hi Mate,
>
> I am writing to you because I need your help to get me bloody
> pilot's
> license back. You keep telling me you got all the right contacts.
> Well now's your chance to make something happen for me because,
> mate,
> I'm bloody desperate.
>
> But first, I'd better tell you what happened during my last flight
> review with the CAA Examiner
>
> On the phone, Ron (that's the CAA dickhead) seemed a reasonable sort
> of a bloke. He politely reminded me of the need to do a flight
> review
> every two years. He even offered to drive out, have a look over my
> property and let me operate from my own strip. Naturally I agreed to
> that.
>
> Anyway, Ron turned up last Wednesday. First up, he said he was a bit
> surprised to see the plane on a small strip outside my homestead,
> because the ALA (Authorised Landing Area) is about a mile away. I
> explained that because this strip was so close to the homestead, it
> was more convenient than the ALA, and despite the power lines
> crossing about midway down the strip, it's really not a problem to
> land and take-off, because at the halfway point down the strip
> you're
> usually still on the ground.
>
> For some reason Ron seemed nervous. So, although I had done the pre-
> flight inspection only four days earlier, I decided to do it all
> over
> again. Because the prick was watching me carefully, I walked around
> the plane three times instead of my usual two.
>
> My effort was rewarded because the colour finally returned to Ron's
> cheeks. In fact, they went a bright red. In view of Ron's obviously
> better mood, I told him I was going to combine the test flight with
> some farm work, as I had to deliver three poddy calves from the home
> paddock to the main herd. After a bit of a chase I finally caught
> the
> calves and threw them into the back of the ol' Cessna 172. We
> climbed
> aboard, but Ron started getting onto me about weight and balance
> calculations and all that crap. Of course I knew that sort of thing
> was a waste of time because, calves like to move around a bit
> particularly when they see themselves 500 feet off the ground! So,
> it's bloody pointless trying to secure them as you know. However, I
> did tell Ron that he shouldn't worry as I always keep the trim wheel
> set on neutral to ensure we remain pretty stable at all stages
> throughout the flight.
>
> Anyway, I started the engine and cleverly minimized the warm-up time
> by tramping hard on the brakes and gunning her to 2,500 rpm. I then
> discovered that Ron has very acute hearing, even though he was
> wearing a bloody headset. Through all that noise he detected a
> metallic rattle and demanded I account for it. Actually it began
> about a month ago and was caused by a screwdriver that fell down a
> hole in the floor and lodged in the fuel selector mechanism. The
> selector can't be moved now , but it doesn't matter because it's
> jammed on `All tanks', so I suppose that's Okay.
>
> However, as Ron was obviously a nit-picker, I blamed the noise on
> vibration from a stainless steel thermos flask which I keep in a
> beaut little possie between the windshield and the magnetic compass.
> My explanation seemed to relax Ron, because he slumped back in the
> seat and kept looking up at the cockpit roof. I released the brakes
> to taxi out, but unfortunately the plane gave a leap and spun to the
> right. "Hell" I thought, "not the starboard wheel chock again".
>
> The bump jolted Ron back to full alertness. He looked around just in
> time to see a rock thown by the prop-wash disappear completely
> through the windscreen of his brand new Commodore. "Now I'm really
> in
> trouble", I thought.
>
> While Ron was busy ranting about his car, I ignored his requirement
> that we taxi to the ALA, and instead took off under the power lines.
> Ron didn't sa y a word, at least not until the engine started
> coughing
> right at the lift off point, and then he bloody screamed his head
> off. "Oh God! Oh God! Oh God!"
>
> "Now take it easy, Ron" I told him firmly. "That often happens on
> take-off and there is a good reason for it". I explained patiently
> that I usually run the plane on standard MOGAS, but one day I
> accidentally put in a gallon or two of kerosene. To compensate for
> the low octane of the kerosene, I siphoned in a few gallons of super
> MOGAS and shook the wings up and down a few times to mix it up.
> Since
> then, the engine has been coughing a bit but in general it works
> just
> fine, if you know how to coax it properly.
>
> Anyway, at this stage Ron seemed to lose all interest in my test
> flight. He pulled out some rosary beads, closed his eyes and became
> lost in prayer. (I didn't think anyone was a Catholic these days). I
> selected some nice music on the HF radio to help him relax.
> BR>Meanwhile, I climbed to my normal cruising altitude of 10,500
> feet. I
> don't normally put in a flight plan or get the weather because, as
> you know getting FAX access out here is a friggin' joke and the
> weather is always 8/8 blue anyway. But since I had that near miss
> with a Saab 340, I might have to change me thinking on that.
>
> Anyhow, on leveling out, I noticed some wild camels heading into my
> improved pasture. I hate bloody camels, and always carry a loaded .
> 303 clipped inside the door of the Cessna just in case I see any of
> the barstards.
>
> We were too high to hit them, but as a matter of principle, I
> decided
> to have a go through the open window. Mate, when I pulled the bloody
> rifle out, the effect on Ron was friggin' electric. As I fired the
> first shot his neck lengthened by about six inches and his eyes
> bulged like a rabbit with myxo. He really looked as if he had been
> jabbed with an electric cattle prod on full pow er. In fact, Ron's
> reaction was so distracting that I lost concentration for a second
> and the next shot went straight through the port tyre. Ron was a bit
> upset about the shooting (probably one of those pinko animal lovers
> I
> guess) so I decided not to tell him about our little problem with
> the
> tyre.
>
> Shortly afterwards I located the main herd and decided to do my
> fighter pilot trick. Ron had gone back to praying when, in one
> smooth
> sequence, I pulled on full flaps, cut the power and started a
> sideslip from 10,500 feet down to 500 feet at 130 knots indicated
> (the last time I looked anyway) and the little needle rushed up to
> the red area on me ASI. What a buzz, mate! About half way through
> the
> descent I looked back in the cabin to see the calves gracefully
> suspended in mid air and mooing like crazy. I was going to comment
> on
> this unusual sight, but Ron looked a bit green and had rolled
> himself into the fetal position and w as screamin' his freakin' head
> off. Mate, talk about being in a bloody zoo. You should've been
> there, it was so bloody funny!
>
> At about 500 feet I leveled out, but for some reason we kept
> sinking.
> When we reached 50 feet I applied full power but nothin' happened;
> no
> noise no nothin'. Then, luckily, I heard me instructor's voicein me
> head saying "carby heat, carby heat". So I pulled carby heat on and
> that helped quite a lot, with the engine finally regaining full
> power. Whew, that was really close, let me tell you!
>
> Then mate, you'll never guess what happened next! As luck would have
> it, at that height we flew into a massive dust cloud caused by the
> cattle and suddenly went I.F. bloody R, mate. BJ, you would have
> been
> really proud of me as I didn't panic once, not once, but I did make
> a
> mental note to consider an instrument rating as soon as me gyro is
> repaired (something I've been meaning to do for a while now).
> Sudden ly Ron's elongated neck and bulging eyes reappeared. His
> mouth
> opened wide, very wide, but no sound emerged. "Take it easy," I told
> him, "we'll be out of this in a minute".
> Sure enough, about a minute later we emerged, still straight and
> level and still at 50 feet.
>
> Admittedly I was surprised to notice that we were upside down, and I
> kept thinking to myself, "I hope Ron didn't notice that I had
> forgotten to set the QNH when we were taxiing". This minor
> tribulation forced me to fly to a nearby valley in which I had to do
> a half roll to get upright again.
>
> By now the main herd had divided into two groups leaving a narrow
> strip between them. "Ah!" I thought, "there's an omen. We'll land
> right there." Knowing that the tyre problem demanded a slow
> approach,
> I flew a couple of steep turns with full flap. Soon the stall
> warning
> horn was blaring so loud in me ear that I cut it's circuit breaker
> to
> shut it up, but by then I knew we were slow enough anyway. I turned
> steeply onto a 75 foot final and put her down with a real thud.
> Strangely enough, I had always thought you could only ground loop in
> a tail dragger but, as usual, I was proved wrong again!
>
> Halfway through our third loop, Ron at last recovered his sense of
> humour.
> Talk about laugh. I've never seen the likes of it. He couldn't stop.
> We finally rolled to a halt and I released the calves, who bolted
> out
> of the aircraft like there was no tomorrow.
>
> I then began picking clumps of dry grass. Between gut wrenching fits
> of laughter, Ron asked what I was doing. I explained that we had to
> stuff the port tyre with grass so we could fly back to the
> homestead.
> It was then that Ron really lost the plot and started running away
> from the aircraft. Can you believe it? The last time I saw him he
> was
> off into the distance, arms flailing in the air and still shrieking
> with laughter. I later heard that he had been confined to a
> psychiatric institution - poor bugger!
>
> Anyhow mate, that's enough about Ron. The problem is I got this
> letter from CASA withdrawing, as they put it, my privileges to fly;
> until I have undergone a complete pilot training course again and
> undertaken another flight proficiency test.
>
> Now I admit that I made a mistake in taxiing over the wheel chock
> and
> not setting the QNH using strip elevation, but I can't see what else
> I did that was a so bloody bad that they have to withdraw me flamin'
> license. Can you?
>
> Ralph H Bell
> Mud Creek Plantation
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=117297#117297
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: joke for the day |
Will someone please explain to me what a "Howg engine is. If it's a
motorcycle engine, which one is it?
Tracy Stone
----- Original Message -----
From: "rickpitcher" <zodie@adelphia.net>
Sent: Friday, June 08, 2007 11:22 AM
Subject: Zenith-List: Re: joke for the day
>
>
> purplemoon99(at)bellsouth wrote:
>> Rick, It sounds like I'am as gulity as every one else about over reacting
>> about this"hawg" thing,so lets get back to building and helping each
>> other.
>> That hawg. that larry built is a 10+ and my Hog-Air now has a 130 Ram
>> eng.
>> in it.I will admit that hog's are a hard way to go,that's why we are
>> experimental's Have a good night and fly safe. Joe N101HD 601XL The H
>> D
>> now stands for Hotel Delta
>> ---
>
>
> 'S OK Joe, everyone has an off-day now and then when things just seem to
> rub them the wrong way.
> You're absolutely right about Larry's 701 Hawg: that's one good looking
> airplane. Great job Larry :)
>
> Rick
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: joke for the day |
It refers to a Harley-Davidson motorcycle.
On Jun 8, 2007, at 12:59 PM, robert stone wrote:
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> Will someone please explain to me what a "Howg engine is. If
> it's a motorcycle engine, which one is it?
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> Tracy Stone
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Bryan Martin
N61BM, CH 601 XL,
RAM Subaru, Stratus redrive.
do not archive.
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| Subject: | Re: Rotax Fuel Pump Replacement |
Anyone else having to replace the fuel pump per Rotax Alert Service
Bulleting, Lockwood Aviation needs to be contacted and they will replace
the pump at your cost. However, you receive your money back when you
return the old pump to them.
Dan Wilde
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Thanks for the responses about the 960 pound gross weight.
I am looking at a 701 that is for sale. I am told that it is a 1986 kit
that was finished in 1991. I think that 1986 was the first year that the
701 kits were made, so I have been wondering about how it will compare
to the newer kits.
I am going tomorrow to see it up close.
Regards,
Damien
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| Subject: | Bending 6-B-21-1 & 2 |
Hello group ,I asked for some advice about a week ago on bending these
tubes .I received some good ideas from several of you good people .Today
I received my material from AS .I made the forms from 3/4" MDF today .My
plan is to mount the forms to my table and try to bend to shape around
the forms .May have to pack with sand as Larry suggested .Anyone see any
problems in doing it this way, maybe I should have ordered additional
material for screw ups. Thanks DO NOT ARCHIVE
Wade Jones South Texas
601XL plans building
Cont. 0200
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| Subject: | Bending 6-B-21-1 & 2 |
You can do the initial bend on the form by just grabbing the ends and
pulling. This may take two people as the tube is so long. But due to
spring-back you will have to use a tighter radius form to bring it to final
shape. So after the first bend the form is just your template. I started
with a 10 inch radius but had to finish the ends with a 5-6 inch radius. You
might be able to skip the sand if your forms support the circular
cross-section of the tube but why make the potentially expensive experiment?
I just filled mine with sand, plugged both ends with some rubber stoppers
from Home Depot held on with duct tape.
For me the process that worked best was to mark off sections on the tube
with matching marks on the the form and work on sections proceeding from the
center of the tube toward the ends. That way you aren't trying to adjust
bends all over. If you overbend you *can* correct. Just don't do it too
often in a given section as you will start work-hardening the tube. After a
few bends I was able to get a feel for the spring-back. I was able to do one
tube in an evening. BE PATIENT!
-- Craig
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AirCraft Spruce makes them, not to custom, but passes inspection. Larry
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tommy Walker" <twalker@cableone.net>
Sent: Friday, June 08, 2007 10:51 AM
Subject: Zenith-List: Data Plate
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> Listers,
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Has anybody installed a Dynon pitot on a 701? I am trying to determine
the best location.
Greg Alonso
Building 701 from kit.
Michigan
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| Subject: | Zenith Builders Chat Room |
We are hoping to start a Zenith Builder's chat this coming Monday (June 11, 2007)
at the following link.
http://chat.iahu.ca/
Dan
601 XL/ Corvair plans build
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Tommy,
I used a premade plate from A/S and had a local engraver put on the info. So
unds like you are getting close!!!!!
Bob Spudis
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