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1. 02:50 AM - Re: XL TD (David Downey)
2. 02:51 AM - Re: XL TD (David Downey)
3. 05:39 AM - Re: First flight (Tommy Walker)
4. 05:48 AM - Re: Windsheild Rubber Mouldingn 701 (Jeffrey A Beachy)
5. 08:30 AM - 701 nose gear (ricklach)
6. 10:36 AM - Re: Re: joke for the day (Juan Vega)
7. 11:47 AM - Re: 601XL Wing and Tail Kits for sale (Will Couvillon)
8. 12:56 PM - Re: Re: joke for the day (japhillipsga@aol.com)
9. 01:29 PM - Re: Re: joke for the day (Dave G.)
10. 01:38 PM - Re: Re: joke for the day (Juan Vega)
11. 01:58 PM - Re: Re: joke for the day (Randy L. Thwing)
12. 02:18 PM - Re:701 bungee (Zed Smith)
13. 03:28 PM - Re: Re:701 bungee (Jim Hoak)
14. 03:31 PM - Re: Re:701 bungee (RClaggf4u@aol.com)
15. 03:37 PM - Re: Zenith Builders Chat Room (Rob St Denis)
16. 04:49 PM - Disagreeable members of the Zenith Net (robert stone)
17. 05:04 PM - Re: Air venting (robert stone)
18. 06:11 PM - Re: Air venting (LarryMcFarland)
19. 06:52 PM - Firewall angle (Bill Naumuk)
20. 07:12 PM - Re: XL TD (Brandon Tucker)
21. 07:18 PM - 601 xl wing skins (floyd wilkes)
22. 07:21 PM - Re:Jokes (Bill Naumuk)
23. 07:29 PM - Re: XL TD (Bill Sewell)
24. 08:55 PM - Re: Re:701 bungee (NYTerminat@aol.com)
25. 09:30 PM - Re: First flight (BobTezyk)
26. 10:14 PM - Re: Re: joke for the day (kevinbonds)
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Thanks for the response Kevin;
I am in Harleysville PA about 2.5 hours from you (it looks). I will file your email
and perhaps in the future we can assist each other if there are questions
that come up.
Dave,
I'm building a TD with a Corvair but I'm not going to be much help
right now because I'm just getting the parts gathered together. I
haven't driven a rivet yet. But I am located in PA. Lewistown to be exact.
Kevin R.
601XL/Corvair
Dave Downey
Harleysville (SE) PA
Zodiac 601XL/Corvair?
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thanks Mark;
do not archive
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Mark Townsend Alma, Ontario
Zodiac 601XL C-GOXL, CH701 just started
www.ch601.org / www.ch701.com/ www.Osprey2.com
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of David Downey
Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2007 9:31 PM
To: zenith-list@matronics.com
Subject: Zenith-List: XL TD
I have tried to get information several times with nothing but silence. Are there
no XL TD builders who are flying on this list?
I have several requests:
1. I am interested in the weights from the three scales with the airplane leveled
for weight and balance determination. The CG location and condition of the
plane, empty, gross, etc. would also be useful.
2. I have the $45 plans for the TD conversion from ZAC. However, the illustrated
builders guide appears to have at least three different structural configurations
depicted all mixed together. Is this so? If it is, then how difficult is
it to dope out the correct path when scratch building that area?
The reason I am concerned is that the TD conversion appears to be "rube goldberg-y"
compared to the tricycle version. The factory assures me that it is fine
but based on a career exposed directly to aircraft engineering, I am concerned
with the longevity of the design with that conversion installed. Since I plan
to do a TD only build, It is a big issue if I ever need to convert to nose gear.
If there are any TD builder/flyers out there on this list, please respond or at
least respond off list if need be. If any others know of a builder that is not
on the list and would forward my e-mail to them I would also be grateful.
Thank you very much.
Dave Downey
Harleysville (SE) PA
Zodiac 601XL/Corvair?
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| Subject: | Re: First flight |
Congratulations Aaron!!!
I can see the smile from here..
Tommy Walker in Alabama
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| Subject: | Re: Windsheild Rubber Mouldingn 701 |
I used PN 05-01500 from ACS and am happy with it.
Jeff Beachy
CH701, 90%
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Dose anyone have a simple way to disassemble and replace the bungee on the 701
nose wheel. Ive looked through the assembly manual and cant find any information
on assembly or disassembly of the bungee. Did I miss it or am I blind? Any
experienced help in this area would be appreciated.
Rick
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=117802#117802
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| Subject: | Re: joke for the day |
to all who found the jokes and lite heartenness not good, I think you all need
to get your selves a handfull of stool softener and ingest it ASAP. You need
to loosen up!
The Tarpon fishing and shark fishing was great by the way. Hooked up 6 trpons
over 100 Lbs, and landed 3.
PLane is in the paint shop, should be done in two weeks.
Juan
-----Original Message-----
>From: LRM <lrm@skyhawg.com>
>Sent: Jun 6, 2007 10:23 AM
>To: zenith-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Re: joke for the day
>
>Personally, that's not very funny and I don't think this forum is meant for jokes.
So let's not get it started. Do not archive. Larry
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: kevinbonds
> To: zenith-list@matronics.com
> Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2007 1:38 AM
> Subject: RE: Zenith-List: Re: joke for the day
>
>
> OK, I have one.
>
>
>
> An attractive young lady was visiting the control tower of a small airfield,
when a very forward young controller asked her if she liked airplanes. She said
yes, but admitted she didn't know much about them.
>
>
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> "I have my own plane" he said braggingly.
>
> She: "Oh really, what kind"
>
> He: "See that very large plane over there"
>
> She: "Yes"
>
> "Well that's just a C130, I have a C150"
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>
>
> Kevin Bonds
>
> Nashville TN
>
> 601XL Plans building.
>
> http://home.comcast.net/~kevinbonds
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| Subject: | RE: 601XL Wing and Tail Kits for sale |
Sale Pending...Thanks to all who responded.
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| Subject: | Re: joke for the day |
Juan, I agree with you. We are pilots and builders and mostly happy. If your
butt is so tight you can't enjoy the moment just pass on. Now to something
really important. Juan, where did you catch fish such as you described ? Is
it near enough to fly to in with my 24 gallon Super XL ?=C2-Did you charte
r a boat to get to them ? Best regards and I wish I was helping you eat thos
e fish, Bill of Georgia
-----Original Message-----
From: Juan Vega <amyvega2005@earthlink.net>
Sent: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 1:35 pm
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Re: joke for the day
to all who found the jokes and lite heartenness not good, I think you all n
eed
o get your selves a handfull of stool softener and ingest it ASAP. You need
to
oosen up!
The Tarpon fishing and shark fishing was great by the way. Hooked up 6 trpo
ns
ver 100 Lbs, and landed 3.
PLane is in the paint shop, should be done in two weeks.
Juan
-----Original Message-----
From: LRM <lrm@skyhawg.com>
Sent: Jun 6, 2007 10:23 AM
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Re: joke for the day
Personally, that's not very funny and I don't think this forum is meant for
okes. So let's not get it started. Do not archive. Larry
----- Original Message -----
From: kevinbonds
To: zenith-list@matronics.com
Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2007 1:38 AM
Subject: RE: Zenith-List: Re: joke for the day
OK, I have one.
An attractive young lady was visiting the control tower of a small airfiel
d,
hen a very forward young controller asked her if she liked airplanes. She sa
id
es, but admitted she didn't know much about them.
"I have my own plane" he said braggingly.
She: "Oh really, what kind"
He: "See that very large plane over there"
She: "Yes"
"Well that's just a C130, I have a C150"
Kevin Bonds
Nashville TN
601XL Plans building.
http://home.comcast.net/~kevinbonds
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| Subject: | Re: joke for the day |
I don't know about these discussions, they seem divisive. Otoh, they may
be nescessary. I once belonged to a club, we were all a friendly lot and
got along relatively well. One day a new member showed up and was
welcomed. He was an enthusiastic chap and set about getting deeply
involved. Before long he started putting forth his ideas, shortly
thereafter he started insisting on them, and eventually demanding they
be adopted. Dealing with him was a tiring task involving a withering
assault which resulted in him getting his way. Long story short, the
club is no more.
Something to think about when a person demands that no humor, no asides,
belong in HIS newsgroup.
do not archive.
----- Original Message -----
From: japhillipsga@aol.com
To: zenith-list@matronics.com
Sent: Monday, June 11, 2007 4:53 PM
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Re: joke for the day
Juan, I agree with you. We are pilots and builders and mostly happy.
If your butt is so tight you can't enjoy the moment just pass on. Now to
something really important. Juan, where did you catch fish such as you
described ? Is it near enough to fly to in with my 24 gallon Super XL ?
Did you charter a boat to get to them ? Best regards and I wish I was
helping you eat those fish, Bill of Georgia
-----Original Message-----
From: Juan Vega
To: zenith-list@matronics.com; zenith-list@matronics.com
Sent: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 1:35 pm
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Re: joke for the day
to all who found the jokes and lite heartenness not good, I think you
all need
to get your selves a handfull of stool softener and ingest it ASAP. You
need to
loosen up!
The Tarpon fishing and shark fishing was great by the way. Hooked up 6
trpons
over 100 Lbs, and landed 3.
PLane is in the paint shop, should be done in two weeks.
Juan
-----Original Message-----
>From: LRM <lrm@skyhawg.com>
>Sent: Jun 6, 2007 10:23 AM
>To: zenith-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Re: joke for the day
>
>Personally, that's not very funny and I don't think this forum is meant
for
jokes. So let's not get it started. Do not archive. Larry
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: kevinbonds
> To: zenith-list@matronics.com
> Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2007 1:38 AM
> Subject: RE: Zenith-List: Re: joke for the day
>
>
> OK, I have one.
>
>
>
> An attractive young lady was visiting the control tower of a small
airfield,
when a very forward young controller asked her if she liked airplanes.
She said
yes, but admitted she didn't know much about them.
>
>
>
> "I have my own plane" he said braggingly.
>
> She: "Oh really, what kind"
>
> He: "See that very large plane over there"
>
> She: "Yes"
>
> "Well that's just a C130, I have a C150"
>
>
>
>
>
> Kevin Bonds
>
> Nashville TN
>
> 601XL Plans building.
>
> http://home.comcast.net/~kevinbonds
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| Subject: | Re: joke for the day |
Bill,
to answer your question, went with a guide on two separate ocassions while there.
great fun!
Boca Grand in FLorida is 70 miles south of St, Petersburg/Tampa FLA. A great trip
in the 601xl!
The fish were Tarpon, and they average 80 to 200 lbs. they call it the King of
fighting fish. Think of pulling a car from 90 feet deep and then it running away
from you at 30 mph!. A Marlin on Steroids! Boca Grand is the salt water
fishing capital of the South East. You can fly into Ft. Myers airport, rent a
car and you are in Boca Grand within 30 minutes. When you get on the island
, you can rent an appratment for $200.00/night. Eat dinner at the Pink elephant
which has been araound for 90 years. This place is like being in the Bahamas.
Great fishing all around you for all sorts of game fish- Shark, tarpon, snook,
pompano GINORMOUS Red fish, Call ahead to the chamber of commerce and they
will give you a list of FIshing Guides. It is a great weekend for Hubby and
wife.The beaches are second to none.
BRING GOOD SUN BLOCK
Juan
-----Original Message-----
>From: japhillipsga@aol.com
>Sent: Jun 11, 2007 3:53 PM
>To: zenith-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Re: joke for the day
>
>Juan, I agree with you. We are pilots and builders and mostly happy. If your butt
is so tight you can't enjoy the moment just pass on. Now to something really
important. Juan, where did you catch fish such as you described ? Is it near
enough to fly to in with my 24 gallon Super XL ?Did you charter a boat to get
to them ? Best regards and I wish I was helping you eat those fish, Bill of
Georgia
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Juan Vega <amyvega2005@earthlink.net>
>To: zenith-list@matronics.com; zenith-list@matronics.com
>Sent: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 1:35 pm
>Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Re: joke for the day
>
>
>to all who found the jokes and lite heartenness not good, I think you all need
>o get your selves a handfull of stool softener and ingest it ASAP. You need to
>oosen up!
>The Tarpon fishing and shark fishing was great by the way. Hooked up 6 trpons
>ver 100 Lbs, and landed 3.
>PLane is in the paint shop, should be done in two weeks.
>Juan
>-----Original Message-----
>From: LRM <lrm@skyhawg.com>
>Sent: Jun 6, 2007 10:23 AM
>To: zenith-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Re: joke for the day
>
>Personally, that's not very funny and I don't think this forum is meant for
>okes. So let's not get it started. Do not archive. Larry
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: kevinbonds
> To: zenith-list@matronics.com
> Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2007 1:38 AM
> Subject: RE: Zenith-List: Re: joke for the day
>
>
> OK, I have one.
>
>
>
> An attractive young lady was visiting the control tower of a small airfield,
>hen a very forward young controller asked her if she liked airplanes. She said
>es, but admitted she didn't know much about them.
>
>
>
> "I have my own plane" he said braggingly.
>
> She: "Oh really, what kind"
>
> He: "See that very large plane over there"
>
> She: "Yes"
>
> "Well that's just a C130, I have a C150"
>
>
>
>
>
> Kevin Bonds
>
> Nashville TN
>
> 601XL Plans building.
>
> http://home.comcast.net/~kevinbonds
>
>
>
> do not archive DO NOT ARCHIVE
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| Subject: | Re: joke for the day |
Well, if we ever do have a member who needs delt with, I want Bill of
Georgia to handle it. If he wants to help Juan eat Tarpon & Shark, he's
one tough Son of a Gun! What does he pick his teeth with? A pike pole?
Yuks & Regards & do not archive,
Randy, Las Vegas
Something to think about when a person demands that no humor, no
asides, belong in HIS newsgroup.
I wish I was helping you eat those fish, Bill of Georgia
The Tarpon fishing and shark fishing was great by the way. Hooked up 6
trpons
over 100 Lbs, and landed 3.
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do not archive
After I got the engine on and running, and while I was standing around admiring
my work, I noticed that bungee replacement might require removing all the stuff
I had labored to install.
Others may have a better plan, but looks like the fuselage needs to be supported
so the entire nosegear assembly can slide out. Doesn't appear that there is
room for a pry bar to stretch the bungee.
This isn't any help, but maybe there'll be a neat, slick, fast and easy way to
do this.
Anybody?
Regards,
Zed/701/R912/90+%/etc
do not archive
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Zed, Guys & gals,
Nose Gear Bungee Replacement! Mine is a 601HD but pretty much the same as
the 701. I've already replaced - with the engine in place - mine. As someone
suspected, I blocked up under the engine mount ( with the cowl off! ) and
jacked that up high enough to clear the ground. Cut the old damaged / frayed
bungee with a razor - one rubber band at a time so to speak. Now drop out
the gear far enough to install the new bungee. Slide the gear up to the
point where it is time to stretch the bungee. While my helper went to the
big hangar to find "something" to stretch the bungee, I was contemplating
making a "special" tool as some had done. Then it hit me, try a screw driver
( maybe 10 inches long - one that you get in that tight place) under the
bungee and into the tube on the front of the gear leg and it slid right
on!!. Remember this is with the airplane jacked up.When my helper came back,
he said I couldn't find anything to do the job. I told him, don't worry
about it. it's done.
Simple as that. Let the airplane down slowly, guide the top of the gear
through the hole and install the retainer plate on top. No sweat. Well,
that's how I did it.
Jim Hoak 601HD
----- Original Message -----
From: "Zed Smith" <zsmith3rd@earthlink.net>
Sent: Monday, June 11, 2007 4:17 PM
Subject: Zenith-List: Re:701 bungee
>
> do not archive
>
> After I got the engine on and running, and while I was standing around
> admiring my work, I noticed that bungee replacement might require removing
> all the stuff I had labored to install.
>
> Others may have a better plan, but looks like the fuselage needs to be
> supported so the entire nosegear assembly can slide out. Doesn't appear
> that there is room for a pry bar to stretch the bungee.
>
> This isn't any help, but maybe there'll be a neat, slick, fast and easy
> way to do this.
>
> Anybody?
>
> Regards,
>
> Zed/701/R912/90+%/etc
>
> do not archive
>
>
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I remember seeing a tool someone made to install the bungee while everything
is on the plane. It was on a members web site or the CH701.com cool tool
list. Look like it would work to me.
Wayne Clagg
701 going on gear tonight.
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| Subject: | Re: Zenith Builders Chat Room |
Room's all ready to go for 8pm edt ... see you all then
On 6/10/07, Rob St Denis <rob@iahu.ca> wrote:
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> 8est I think
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> On 6/9/07, heliav8r@swbell.net <heliav8r@swbell.net> wrote:
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> > What time??
> >
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> > > We are hoping to start a Zenith Builder's chat this
> > > coming Monday (June 11, 2007) at the following link.
> > > http://chat.iahu.ca/
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> > CH-601XL, Corvair (Plans)
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| Subject: | Disagreeable members of the Zenith Net |
Guys this is only my opinion but I have found that most people who
insist on having their way have a great big ego that needs feeding and
the way they feed it is by getting their way. Therefore the best way to
deal with someone like that is do not respond to anything he or she
says. Ignore them in total. They will soon get the message and start
making sugestions and/or providing answers to questions and behaving
like a lady or gentleman.
Tracy Stone
Harker Heights, Tx
ZodiacXL w/Jabiru 3300
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Craig,
Yes, I have the factory NACA vents installed but cant get the
airflow adjusted any higher than my chest. I just called Aircraft
Spruce and ordered a pair of the plexiglass vents which I will install
on the canopy sides so I can get cool outside air blowing right in my
face. Thanks much for the information.
Tracy
----- Original Message -----
From: Craig Payne
To: zenith-list@matronics.com
Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2007 11:52 AM
Subject: Zenith-List: Air venting
Do you mean in addition to the factory NACA vents?
How about a vent in the canopy? Spruce p/n CC3251 or 05-01179. Cut the
hole by hand with a fly-cutter in under an hour. Pictures attached of a
vent installed on Doug Dugger's plane.
http://www.aircraftspruce.com/pdf/2007Individual/Cat07190.pdf
-- Craig
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Thank you for the compliment Bob.
It was a wonderful process, building from Zenith plans
and I really enjoyed it.
Larry
NYTerminat@aol.com wrote:
> Larry, That is a real work of art :)
>
> Bob Spudis
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>
> In a message dated 6/10/2007 5:23:07 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
> larry@macsmachine.com writes:
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> http://www.macsmachine.com/images/completion/full/601ezclosefrtrt.gif
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> See what's free at AOL.com
> <http://www.aol.com?ncid=AOLAOF00020000000503>.
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All-
To answer all the well intentioned XL-ers out there, the bottom left
diagram of 6-F-6 of the HDS plans call for "Angle between the floor skin
and firewall, 80 degrees". You guys ought to know me by now- after all
the times I've been burned, I wouldn't fart without a can of Renuzit on
hand!
do not archive
Bill Naumuk
HDS Fuse/Corvair
Townville, Pa
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Dave,
I have a flying HDS / TD / Corvair. I am not
sure what "rube goldberg-y" means, but the design is
sound. I also scratch built all landing gear
components. It was a piece of cake. Check the
archives from about 6 months ago. I had a lengthy
post on how and why I went about converting from the
tailspring and fork setup described in the plans to a
Matco full swivel tailwheel setup. The price was
right, it could have saved a bunch of time, and
handles MUCH better on the ground. Please forward
specific questions to me personally, as I seldomly
monitor the list these days...
See these locations:
http://mcgirt.net/~ars2006/ars2006/Desktop.html
http://zenvair.com/
http://www.eaa286.org/BT.html
R/
Brandon Tucker
601 HDS / TD / Corvair
95 hours
Got a little couch potato?
Check out fun summer activities for kids.
http://search.yahoo.com/search?fr=oni_on_mail&p=summer+activities+for+kids&cs=bz
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| Subject: | 601 xl wing skins |
Previously I had found the pre drilled aft bottom skin had the tie down hole in
the wrong place.
Today, I find the leading edge skins are not only misdrilled for the outboard nose
rib but the are also 10 mm too short at the wing tip and 5mm too short on
the inboard side.
Called Zenith and Caleab confirmed they have a bad batch of skins.
I picked up my kit at the May 11, 07 rudder class.
Any one else having any problems with the skins?
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Floyd Wilkes
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=117938#117938
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All-
Was at a Corvair convention over the weekend and came back with two
state-specific jokes.
1. Why are there so few all-wood homebuilts in Pennsylvania? Because
our wives go "How thoughtful, he cut me some kindling" and burn up our
ribs starting the stove.
2. Why are so few gear kits sold in West Virginia? Why bother, your
project will be sitting on blocks anyway!
Only 48 more to go. Come on, guys, lighten up.
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Bill Naumuk
HDS Fuse/Corvair
Townville, Pa
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David,
I am and have been building a TD version of the XL for the past 4 years. I
hope to have it flying soon. I am just now getting ready to do weight and
balance, if fact I tried to do it today with 3 walmart spring scales but
discovered (should have known) that the weight at either of the main gear is
over 300 lbs, well over the limit of the scales.
The plans for the TD version I used for my aircraft are probably the same
ones you purchased since I don't think there has been any update to them in
the last few years. I found the detail in the drawings sufficient to build
from with some thought and some improvisation. The photo assembly guides
were not so helpful.
As far as converting an XL build as a TD to a tricycle gear, It could be
done but I think it would be difficult. If you are having second thoughts
about the TD configuration and thinking you could convert it to a trike
later, maybe you should think about it some more before you decide.
Take a look at my web site, lots of pictures that may help. I have recently
added a search feature to help locate areas of interest.
www.n601bz.com
Bill Sewell
N601BZ
On 6/10/07, David Downey <planecrazydld@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> I have tried to get information several times with nothing but silence.
> Are there no XL TD builders who are flying on this list?
>
> I have several requests:
>
> 1. I am interested in the weights from the three scales with the airplane
> leveled for weight and balance determination. The CG location and condition
> of the plane, empty, gross, etc. would also be useful.
>
> 2. I have the $45 plans for the TD conversion from ZAC. However, the
> illustrated builders guide appears to have at least three different
> structural configurations depicted all mixed together. Is this so? If it is,
> then how difficult is it to dope out the correct path when scratch building
> that area?
>
> The reason I am concerned is that the TD conversion appears to be "rube
> goldberg-y" compared to the tricycle version. The factory assures me that it
> is fine but based on a career exposed directly to aircraft engineering, I am
> concerned with the longevity of the design with that conversion installed.
> Since I plan to do a TD only build, It is a big issue if I ever need to
> convert to nose gear.
>
> If there are any TD builder/flyers out there on this list, please respond
> or at least respond off list if need be. If any others know of a builder
> that is not on the list and would forward my e-mail to them I would also be
> grateful.
>
> Thank you very much.
>
>
> Dave Downey
> Harleysville (SE) PA
> Zodiac 601XL/Corvair?
>
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Zed,
I saw this on the Yahoo site, should work with the engine in
place._http://www.contactm agazine.com/ CH601XL/bungee_ installation. html_
(http://www.contactmagazine.com/CH601XL/bungee_installation.html)
Bob Spudis
N701ZX/CH701/912S/110hrs
************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.
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| Subject: | Re: First flight |
Aaron,
Congradulations. What a thrill that must have been.
Now that you have had a chance to test it out, give us a report on the performance
of the Grove gear. How did it feel compared to what you have been flying?
How would you classify it? Firm? Springy?
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Regards,
Bob Tezyk
N78QT - 601XL QB/ Jab3300
Started on elevator
http://neo.datamatrix.com/eaglesnestestates/index.php?option=com_rsgallery2&Itemid=32&catid=23
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| Subject: | Re: joke for the day |
I don't think this is appropriate conversation for . . . Ha Ha just kidding.
I'm waiting on that serious one though. Anyone what to make a wager on when
it will come through.
Anyway, I'm a fly-fisherman. I have always wanted to do some saltwater
fly-fishing. Anywhere around there to do that? Sounds like a fun trip once
my plane is done. Daydreaming, about these sorts of things, keeps me going
during those long building sessions. And that is VERY relevant in my
opinion. Thanks for that.
Also I agree with Tracy Stone; ignore people who are just trying to be
disagreeable. I was addressed last week for making a dry joke. You'll notice
I pretty much ignored it, and resisted the urge to answer back. Thought it
would be a worse crime to add emails to the situation. Just found the whole
situation ironic anyway.
Kevin Bonds
Nashville TN
601XL Plans building.
http://home.comcast.net/~kevinbonds
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-----Original Message-----
From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Juan Vega
Sent: Monday, June 11, 2007 3:38 PM
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Re: joke for the day
Bill,
to answer your question, went with a guide on two separate ocassions while
there. great fun!
Boca Grand in FLorida is 70 miles south of St, Petersburg/Tampa FLA. A
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