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1. 05:21 AM - Re: Re: Chat (Scott Moser)
2. 06:15 AM - Jab 3300 - Stumble during mag check solution (charles.long@gm.com)
3. 06:38 AM - Re: 601 xl wing skins (Kevin Kinney)
4. 07:35 AM - Re: 701 nose gear (ricklach)
5. 08:07 AM - On Top (Jaybannist@cs.com)
6. 08:22 AM - Re: Re: Chat (Rob St Denis)
7. 08:36 AM - Flange Tweaking Tool (Debo Cox)
8. 08:49 AM - Re: Jab 3300 - Stumble during mag check solution (japhillipsga@aol.com)
9. 09:00 AM - Re: 601 xl wing skins (Tim Juhl)
10. 09:05 AM - Re: Vent cuttingVent cutting (Mack Kreizenbeck)
11. 09:23 AM - Re: On Top (Larry Winger)
12. 09:35 AM - Re: Vent cuttingVent cutting (Tim Juhl)
13. 10:39 AM - Fuel selector fittings (Jaybannist@cs.com)
14. 11:03 AM - Re: On Top (David Downey)
15. 11:25 AM - Re: Vent cuttingVent cutting (LarryMcFarland)
16. 12:15 PM - Jab 3300 - mag stumble solution (Jeff Small)
17. 12:32 PM - Sentimental Journey at Cub Haven (Jeff Small)
18. 12:54 PM - Re: 601 xl wing skins (dgardea(at)gmail.com)
19. 12:56 PM - Garmin Foretrex 101 (Ken Arnold)
20. 01:02 PM - Re: On Top (Larry Winger)
21. 01:05 PM - Electrical Connectors (dgardea(at)gmail.com)
22. 01:13 PM - Re: Electrical Connectors (John Davis)
23. 01:18 PM - Re: Electrical Connectors (Craig Payne)
24. 01:31 PM - Re: Electrical Connectors (Michael Valentine)
25. 02:41 PM - Re: On Top (Elwood140@aol.com)
26. 03:05 PM - Re: On Top (sperry50@comcast.net)
27. 03:08 PM - Re: Electrical Connectors (dgardea(at)gmail.com)
28. 04:23 PM - Re: HDS Firewall angle (Bill Naumuk)
29. 04:54 PM - Re: Re: Chat (Scott Moser)
30. 05:30 PM - Re: On Top (David Downey)
31. 05:37 PM - Re: Vent cuttingVent cutting (aprazer)
32. 06:14 PM - Ch-701 in MN (Ben Ramler)
33. 08:15 PM - Re: New to list (Richard Harvey)
34. 08:29 PM - Re: Ch-701 in MN (MacDonald Doug)
35. 08:46 PM - Re: Ch-701 in MN (bryanekholm)
36. 08:56 PM - Re: Re: Vent cuttingVent cutting (Craig Payne)
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Bob '
Have you bought your 640 Kit yet. I have one for sale for a steal
Scott Moser
----- Original Message -----
From: Rob St Denis
To: zenith-list@matronics.com
Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2007 7:55 AM
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Re: Chat
Well I'd have to say this worked out rather well, 8 users came to chit
chat about their 601's 701's 801's and one lowly 640 (me)
Figure we will make it a weekly get together mondays at 8pm edt
Rob
waiting on 640 tail kit (rudder complete)
On 6/8/07, Rob St Denis <rob@iahu.ca> wrote:
Go nuts thats what its there for. The site has plenty of bandwidth
so could handle a pile of people.
I will be there
On 6/7/07, leinad < leinad@hughes.net> wrote:
Rob
If it's OK with you I'd like to try using your chat? I've
registered, and plan to be there Monday night (June 11) around 8:00 EST
as a test. Anyone interested? What time would be convenient?
Dan
robertstdenis wrote:
> Or what about us ch640 builders ?
>
> If ya want a chat, I set one up at chat.iahu.ca
(http://chat.iahu.ca ) a long time ago which is not being used
>
> Rob
> Hanmer Ontario
> ch640 stabilator (should be here soon the shops ready to roll)
>
> do not archive.
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| Subject: | Jab 3300 - Stumble during mag check solution |
I had reported a engine stumble during the mag check a couple of weeks ago.
My distributor caps were loose. I filed .010" off the retainers to tighten
them up. Since that time, have made multiple flights and no more stumble
issues. Others have reported the distributor caps loosening over time. If
you develop a stumble during mag check, suggest you look for loose
distributor caps.
Clear Skies!
Chuck Long
Zodie Rocket / Jab3300
N601LE, 110 hr TT
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| Subject: | Re: 601 xl wing skins |
> This all makes me think that my next CH601XL will be scratch built.
When I hear complaints like these, I realize how fortunate we all are. What I'm
*not* hearing are complaints like, "massive structural failure" or "unstable
in all axes".
Any aircraft design still in production is in a state of flux. It can be the newest
whiz-bang design with a single example flying or a spam can using 1940's
technology. Any design is going to evolve and usually for the better. (My apologies
to those in Kansas for using the "E" word.)
The down side of this is that sometimes T's will not be crossed and I's will not
be dotted.
That much, I can live with. More importantly, I can fly with it as well.
Regards,
Kevin Kinney
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| Subject: | Re: 701 nose gear |
Hi Bill,
Thank you for your discription and help. It sounds simple and I'll find out soon.
Rick
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Please read the attached pdf.
Guess this suggests that I've been "stuck on stupid" for a long time!
Jay in Dallas
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I've just got the tail section right now (just took delivery of the
stabilator this morning)
On 6/13/07, Scott Moser <moscon@citcom.net> wrote:
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> Bob '
> Have you bought your 640 Kit yet. I have one for sale for a steal
> Scott Moser
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Rob St Denis <rob@iahu.ca>
> *To:* zenith-list@matronics.com
> *Sent:* Tuesday, June 12, 2007 7:55 AM
> *Subject:* Re: Zenith-List: Re: Chat
>
> Well I'd have to say this worked out rather well, 8 users came to chit
> chat about their 601's 701's 801's and one lowly 640 (me)
>
> Figure we will make it a weekly get together mondays at 8pm edt
>
> Rob
> waiting on 640 tail kit (rudder complete)
>
> On 6/8/07, Rob St Denis <rob@iahu.ca> wrote:
> >
> > Go nuts thats what its there for. The site has plenty of bandwidth so
> > could handle a pile of people.
> >
> > I will be there
> >
> > On 6/7/07, leinad < leinad@hughes.net> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > Rob
> > > If it's OK with you I'd like to try using your chat? I've registered,
> > > and plan to be there Monday night (June 11) around 8:00 EST as a
> > > test. Anyone interested? What time would be convenient?
> > > Dan
> > >
> > >
> > > robertstdenis wrote:
> > > > Or what about us ch640 builders ?
> > > >
> > > > If ya want a chat, I set one up at chat.iahu.ca (http://chat.iahu.ca
> > > ) a long time ago which is not being used
> > > >
> > > > Rob
> > > > Hanmer Ontario
> > > > ch640 stabilator (should be here soon the shops ready to roll)
> > > >
> > > > do not archive.
> > > >
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> > >
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> > > Scratch building XL with Corvair Engine
> > >
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> > >
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> > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=117197#117197
> > > http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Zenith-List
> > > <http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=117197#117197>
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| Subject: | Flange Tweaking Tool |
This is nothing earth-shattering, but I thought I'd share my flange tweaking tool
that I came up with. I'm sure there are a lot of other versions out there,
but I thought this was pretty clever, so here you go.
It's two 3/4" thick pieces of plywood with the front edges rounded to a 1/8"
radius. Sandwiched between the plywood is a piece of .032 aluminum scrap. I used
.032 because I happen to be tweaking .025 flanges. You can adjust the distance
between the plywood by placing different thickness shims between the "handles"
to hand-tweak different flanges and bends all over your project. You can
even make a second set with a different bend radius routed on the front if called
for.
It's not readily visible in the overall picture, but the aluminum shim is about
20mm shorter than the wood pieces - giving you the place to insert the flange
you're tweaking. This thing works like a charm tweaking the wing ribs that
I'm working on now. The size of this one is 150mm long x 30mm wide.
Tweak on my brothers.
Debo Cox
XL/Corvair Scratchbuilder
Nags Head, NC
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| Subject: | Re: Jab 3300 - Stumble during mag check solution |
Chuck, another aid to the loose distributor issue is to use varying length plastic
ties to hold the caps down. The technique is to place a long, large tie around
the neck sort of loose then use ties to strap over the cap to the neck loop.
Once everything is in place and snug then tighten the neck tie. Seems to work
after 114 hours no loose caps or any stumble. As a side issue, a mag stumble
or miss can also be fowling plugs or plug wire failure if your trouble shooting.
Best regards, Bill of Georgia
-----Original Message-----
From: charles.long@gm.com
Sent: Wed, 13 Jun 2007 9:13 am
Subject: Zenith-List: Jab 3300 - Stumble during mag check solution
I had reported a engine stumble during the mag check a couple of weeks ago.
My distributor caps were loose. I filed .010" off the retainers to tighten
them up. Since that time, have made multiple flights and no more stumble
issues. Others have reported the distributor caps loosening over time. If
you develop a stumble during mag check, suggest you look for loose
distributor caps.
Clear Skies!
Chuck Long
Zodie Rocket / Jab3300
N601LE, 110 hr TT
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| Subject: | Re: 601 xl wing skins |
Question for you guys with the problem skins: Did ZAC trim the wing tips and wing
root as well?
Tim
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CFII
Champ L16A flying
Zodiac XL - Jabiru 3300A
Working on wings
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| Subject: | Re: Vent cuttingVent cutting |
OK, I give up! What is a flycutter tool and how is it used?
Mack
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Jay,
Couldn't have said it better. If 152/172 drivers are the caddies in his
aviation country club, I guess we're the guys who mow the greens and fix the
sprinklers.
Imagine what Collins would have written about the LSA category if he had
figured out that some of us get pulled through the air with auto conversion
engines (horror of horrors)!
Larry Winger
Tustin, CA
Scratch-built 601XL/Corvair
Control surfaces and wing spars complete
On 6/13/07, Jaybannist@cs.com <Jaybannist@cs.com> wrote:
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> Please read the attached pdf.
>
> Guess this suggests that I've been "stuck on stupid" for a long time!
>
> Jay in Dallas
>
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| Subject: | Re: Vent cuttingVent cutting |
Something like this http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/topages/holecutter.php
I prefer the type that doesn't use the drill bit - it simply has a center shaft
the same size from end to end. You have to drill the pilot hole first and then
use the fly cutter. With thick stuff and a drill press you can turn it under
power otherwise the best approach is to turn it by hand and score the material.
In the attached picture I made a inspection hole by:
1.) Scoring the metal by hand with the fly cutter. This is in the leading edge
skin.
2.) Using an OLFA knife (see www.601.org) to score a line connecting the edges of the two circles.
3.) Used a step drill to enlarge one of the pilot holes large enough to insert
a nibbler tool which I used to split one end enough that I could get my pliers
on a scored edge and...
4.) Carefully worked my way around the hole, separating the the pieces I wanted
to remove.
There.... that's more of an answer than you probably wanted :-)
Tim
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Champ L16A flying
Zodiac XL - Jabiru 3300A
Working on wings
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| Subject: | Fuel selector fittings |
I ordered, received and installed 1/4"NPT to -6 AN adapters and low profile swivel
(-6 AN) fittings on my fuel selector valve. I turned it every way but loose,
but I just can't make it fit on my center console.
Therefore, I have ordered a new Andair selector valve with banjo fittings, as suggested
by one of our listers. I'll let you know how it goes.
Jay in Dallas
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was anyone else able to see the PDF attachment? I could not.
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Larry Winger <larrywinger@gmail.com> wrote:
Jay,
Couldn't have said it better. If 152/172 drivers are the caddies in his aviation
country club, I guess we're the guys who mow the greens and fix the sprinklers.
Imagine what Collins would have written about the LSA category if he had figured
out that some of us get pulled through the air with auto conversion engines
(horror of horrors)!
Larry Winger
Tustin, CA
Scratch-built 601XL/Corvair
Control surfaces and wing spars complete
On 6/13/07, Jaybannist@cs.com <Jaybannist@cs.com> wrote: Please read the attached
pdf.
Guess this suggests that I've been "stuck on stupid" for a long time!
Jay in Dallas
Dave Downey
Harleysville (SE) PA
Zodiac 601XL/Corvair?
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| Subject: | Re: Vent cuttingVent cutting |
Hi Mack,
The type we're usually talking about on this forum is a short 3/4-inch
body with a stem on one end for a drill chuck,
a hole for a 1/4-inch drill at the other with two Allen screws to hold
the drill and in the middle a square hole that allows
a beam to pass thru, be adjusted and secured with another Allen screw.
At the end of the beam, a square hole
parallel with the drill is made for an 1/8th inch tool bit that's ground
from the inside edge to obtain a hole with a
straight edge. The drill can be used to power it, but for lightening
holes in the wings or fuselage, I prefer to pre-drill
the center hole and then turn the fly-cutter by hand very slowly with
light pressure to cut a hole somewhat like a compass.
In a drill press, you can cut really good holes in an instrument panel
rather quickly. About $12.00 locally.
Larry McFarland 601HDS at www.macsmachine.com
Mack Kreizenbeck wrote:
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> OK, I give up! What is a flycutter tool and how is it used?
> Mack
>
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| Subject: | Jab 3300 - mag stumble solution |
>I had reported a engine stumble during the mag check a couple of weeks
ago.
>My distributor caps were loose. I filed .010" off the retainers to
tighten
>them up. Since that time, have made multiple flights and no more
stumble
>issues.
Chuck,
Good to see that the fix I did and passed along to you, worked. I
wasn't quite in the ".010 inch" precision mode, just taking a few swipes
with the file that was handy in the hangar; my calipers were at home and
I doubt this brain would have thought to use them. Glad you could use
the suggestion.
The L shape of the dual cap retainers lends itself to just this type of
fine tuning.
Why anyone would provide "additional" security for distributor caps with
ty-wraps is beyond me. Not exactly a confidence builder to anyone
looking under the bonnet and contemplating a flight with you. Can just
imagine what the airport bums that visit my hangar would say. Oh well,
to each his own, it is experimental.
tailwinds jeff
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| Subject: | Sentimental Journey at Cub Haven |
MARK YOUR CALENDARS...
The 22nd Annual Sentimental Journey to Cub Haven Fly-In will take place
June 20, 21, 22, 23, 2007 at the historic William T. Piper Memorial
Airport in Lock Haven, PA. The Theme will be 70 years of Piper.
Featured airplanes: J-4 and Comanche PA-24
If flying in, check out the Fly-in Air Ops at:
http://www.sentimentaljourneyfly-in.com/<http://www.sentimentaljourneyfly
-in.com/>
There are two runways in use, a paved 3500 footer and a parallel grass
strip, BUT the state aviation agency gets antsy about simultaneous
landings or takeoffs; also, many NORAD a/c in the pattern and they'll
fly all day. Only here will you be roused from your tent at 5:30 a.m.
by the sound of two or three Kinners in the pattern doing low,
wake-you-up flybys.
Wx permitting we usually get a few Zeniths to show up. Ken Lennox
should be up from MD, and Ray Blondin may have the hours flown off and
be there from DL. You NJ guys are always welcome. If the
thunderboomers hold off I'll be there but event regular Wayne Beattie
from CT is coming via motorhome.
This is a great fly-in! Flying all day long, good, inexpensive food,
free entertainment at night, Hoot Gibson as guest speaker Saturday
night, Piper Museum within an easy walk, just laid back fun for aviation
enthusiasts.
Join us...jeff
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| Subject: | Re: 601 xl wing skins |
Hi Tim,
Yep, they trimmed them as part of their CNC milling process.
Dave
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601XL - Corvair
working on wings
http://home.comcast.net/~davegardea/
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| Subject: | Garmin Foretrex 101 |
Dear Listers,
Someone on the Zenith list or RV list purchased subject GPS from ALDI
for about $60. I drove to neighboring town and found one at the ALDI
store there for $50. It was their last unit.
It is an interesting unit and can be adapted for flying. It does not
have airport database so routing has to be entered manually or input by
actually being on site. I plan on trying it out by flying to
neighboring airports and entering its respective location.
My thoughts on the unit will be made in a few months. At the price, it
has to have some value for certain missions.
Regards,
Ken Arnold
Pikeville, NC
CH701 75% 912ULS
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It was a copy of his letter to the editor. For your convenience, here it
is:
"I have been a Flying reader for a long, long time. I want to address the
July, 2007 issue and specifically "On Top." Apparently, Richard Collins was
assigned to write a piece about a segment of aviation that he has absolutely
no use for: Light Sport. I have never read a more condescending and
disdainful appraisal of an entire segment of aviation than this one.
Richard Collins, nose in the air, totally dismissed the validity of Light
Sport aviation, the airplanes in this category and its proponents and
pilots.
With this article, Flying Magazine has succinctly defined who is NOT a part
of their readership. I am solidly in that category. Thanks for letting me
and my kind know where we stand."
Jay Bannister, Dallas, Texas
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On 6/13/07, David Downey <planecrazydld@yahoo.com> wrote:
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> was anyone else able to see the PDF attachment? I could not.
>
> do not archive
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> *Larry Winger <larrywinger@gmail.com>* wrote:
>
> Jay,
>
> Couldn't have said it better. If 152/172 drivers are the caddies in his
> aviation country club, I guess we're the guys who mow the greens and fix the
> sprinklers.
>
> Imagine what Collins would have written about the LSA category if he had
> figured out that some of us get pulled through the air with auto conversion
> engines (horror of horrors)!
>
> Larry Winger
> Tustin, CA
> Scratch-built 601XL/Corvair
> Control surfaces and wing spars complete
>
>
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| Subject: | Electrical Connectors |
Have you guys or gals found any aircraft electrical supplier that sells connectors
prepacked in an assortment of the red, blue, and yellow splice connectors,
blade terminals, etc. .. sortof like they package for automotive (not that I
will use those). I will go broke buying them from ACS with the shipping and always
forgeting something on the last order. Just curious if someone has found
a better way.
Thanks!
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Dave Gardea
601XL - Corvair
working on wings
http://home.comcast.net/~davegardea/
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| Subject: | Re: Electrical Connectors |
Steinair.com has a selection of connectors in a box at
http://steinair.com/terminals.htm
They've also been very good about prompt shipping.
John
Burnsville, NC
dgardea(at)gmail.com wrote:
>
> Have you guys or gals found any aircraft electrical supplier that sells connectors
prepacked in an assortment of the red, blue, and yellow splice connectors,
blade terminals, etc. .. sortof like they package for automotive (not that
I will use those). I will go broke buying them from ACS with the shipping and
always forgeting something on the last order. Just curious if someone has found
a better way.
>
> Thanks!
>
> do not archive
>
> --------
> Dave Gardea
> 601XL - Corvair
> working on wings
> http://home.comcast.net/~davegardea/
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=118274#118274
>
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There is this from SteinAir:
SA-000-1 Terminal Kit:
50ea: SA001- SA009, 5ea: SA-003 & SA-012, 15ea: SA010 - SA011 !!450
Terminals!!
$60.00
($69 separately)
http://www.steinair.com/terminals.htm
Go to the same page to see the descriptions of the individual parts.
-- Craig
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I got all my stuff from Terminal Town. I was quite happy with the selection
and price. I ordered one of the kits that came with a bunch of connnectors
and a plastic tool box.
http://www.terminaltown.com/index.htm
Michael in NH
On 6/13/07, dgardea(at)gmail.com <dgardea@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> dgardea@gmail.com>
>
> Have you guys or gals found any aircraft electrical supplier that sells
> connectors prepacked in an assortment of the red, blue, and yellow splice
> connectors, blade terminals, etc. .. sortof like they package for automotive
> (not that I will use those). I will go broke buying them from ACS with the
> shipping and always forgeting something on the last order. Just curious if
> someone has found a better way.
>
> Thanks!
>
> do not archive
>
> --------
> Dave Gardea
> 601XL - Corvair
> working on wings
> http://home.comcast.net/~davegardea/
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=118274#118274
>
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Collins struck a nerve. I have never read such opinionated drivel. Is he
one of us? I mean us folks who defy gravity once in a while just for fun.
What a blowhard. My Flying subscription is about to run out. I guess I'll let
it.
Do Not Archive
Larry Wood
N701LW reserved
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It makes me wonder if he has ever flown in a basic ultra-light "just for the fun
of flying". Hell, that feeling of leaving Mother Earth and being in control
cannot be described.
I can see where he may be coming from though. I am a professional musician and
people will tell me if they could play the way I do they would do it all the time.
I remember (a long time ago) when I played just for the fun of it, but after
it started bringing in money every time I sat down at the piano I thought
about all the stuff I needed to learn and "playing the piano" took on a different
light.
Now that I am an "old fart" and play when I choose, I get more satisfaction from
playing what makes me happy and I can now sit and play without thinking of "the
job". Perhaps being a professional pilot makes you think of flying in the
same way. What a sad thought.
Just a thought as I do cocktail hour and contemplate my next move!
Skip Perry
Fort Myers, Fl
601XL (3/4 of the way there)
-------------- Original message --------------
From: Elwood140@aol.com
Collins struck a nerve. I have never read such opinionated drivel. Is he one
of us? I mean us folks who defy gravity once in a while just for fun. What a
blowhard. My Flying subscription is about to run out. I guess I'll let it.
Do Not Archive
Larry Wood
N701LW reserved
See what's free at AOL.com.
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<DIV>It makes me wonder if he has ever flown in a basic ultra-light "just for the
fun of flying". Hell, that feeling of leaving Mother Earth and being in control
cannot be described. </DIV>
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<DIV>I can see where he may be coming from though. I am a professional musician
and people will tell me if they could play the way I do they would do it all
the time. I remember (a long time ago) when I played just for the fun of it, but
after it started bringing in money every time I sat down at the piano I thought
about all the stuff I needed to learn and "playing the piano" took on a different
light. </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Now that I am an "old fart" and play when I choose, I get more satisfaction
from playing what makes me happy and I can now sit and play without thinking
of "the job". Perhaps being a professional pilot makes you think of flying in
the same way. What a sad thought.</DIV>
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<DIV>Just a thought as I do cocktail hour and contemplate my next move!</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Skip Perry</DIV>
<DIV>Fort Myers, Fl</DIV>
<DIV>601XL (3/4 of the way there)</DIV>
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Is he one of us? I mean us folks who defy gravity once in a while just
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Thanks for your replies guys!
Dave
do not archive
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Dave Gardea
601XL - Corvair
working on wings
http://home.comcast.net/~davegardea/
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| Subject: | Re: HDS Firewall angle |
Craig-
Why the hell should I buy an XL CD to build an HDS? The HDS prints
shouldn't have dropped off the face of the earth! It's not like I didn't
pay good money for the HDS kit!!!! Are HDS builders Untermenchen?
Bill Naumuk
HDS Fuse/Corvair
Townville, Pa
----- Original Message -----
From: Craig Payne
To: zenith-list@matronics.com
Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2007 1:07 AM
Subject: RE: Zenith-List: HDS Firewall angle
> The photo manual that's available online through the Zenith website.
Since you're an XL builder, you should have the DVD that is a duplicate.
The resolution of the images in the Acrobat documents on the CD is
higher than what you can get off of the web site. You can zoom in more.
-- Craig
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Rob
I have a "built by factory" stabilator and vertical fin complete I'll
through in if you buy the rest of the kit from me. Right wing 85%, fuse
and all the rest for a great deal. $15000.00 with long range tanks and
many extras and tools. You will save 10,000.00 bucks . My wife says it's
gotta go or me go..
My email is moscon@citcom.net and cell 828-553-1112
Scott Moser
----- Original Message -----
From: Rob St Denis
To: zenith-list@matronics.com
Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2007 11:20 AM
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Re: Chat
I've just got the tail section right now (just took delivery of the
stabilator this morning)
On 6/13/07, Scott Moser < moscon@citcom.net> wrote:
Bob '
Have you bought your 640 Kit yet. I have one for sale for a steal
Scott Moser
----- Original Message -----
From: Rob St Denis
To: zenith-list@matronics.com
Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2007 7:55 AM
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Re: Chat
Well I'd have to say this worked out rather well, 8 users came to
chit chat about their 601's 701's 801's and one lowly 640 (me)
Figure we will make it a weekly get together mondays at 8pm edt
Rob
waiting on 640 tail kit (rudder complete)
On 6/8/07, Rob St Denis <rob@iahu.ca> wrote:
Go nuts thats what its there for. The site has plenty of
bandwidth so could handle a pile of people.
I will be there
On 6/7/07, leinad < leinad@hughes.net> wrote:
leinad@hughes.net>
Rob
If it's OK with you I'd like to try using your chat? I've
registered, and plan to be there Monday night (June 11) around 8:00 EST
as a test. Anyone interested? What time would be convenient?
Dan
robertstdenis wrote:
> Or what about us ch640 builders ?
>
> If ya want a chat, I set one up at chat.iahu.ca (
http://chat.iahu.ca ) a long time ago which is not being used
>
> Rob
> Hanmer Ontario
> ch640 stabilator (should be here soon the shops ready to
roll)
>
> do not archive.
>
> ---
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thanks! do not archive
Larry Winger <larrywinger@gmail.com> wrote: It was a copy of his letter to the
editor. For your convenience, here it is:
"I have been a Flying reader for a long, long time. I want to address the July,
2007 issue and specifically "On Top." Apparently, Richard Collins was assigned
to write a piece about a segment of aviation that he has absolutely no use
for: Light Sport. I have never read a more condescending and disdainful appraisal
of an entire segment of aviation than this one. Richard Collins, nose
in the air, totally dismissed the validity of Light Sport aviation, the airplanes
in this category and its proponents and pilots.
With this article, Flying Magazine has succinctly defined who is NOT a part of
their readership. I am solidly in that category. Thanks for letting me and
my kind know where we stand."
Jay Bannister, Dallas, Texas
Do not archive.
On 6/13/07, David Downey <planecrazydld@yahoo.com> wrote: was anyone else able
to see the PDF attachment? I could not.
do not archive
Larry Winger <larrywinger@gmail.com> wrote:
Jay,
Couldn't have said it better. If 152/172 drivers are the caddies in his aviation
country club, I guess we're the guys who mow the greens and fix the sprinklers.
Imagine what Collins would have written about the LSA category if he had figured
out that some of us get pulled through the air with auto conversion engines
(horror of horrors)!
Larry Winger
Tustin, CA
Scratch-built 601XL/Corvair
Control surfaces and wing spars complete
On 6/13/07, Be a better Heartthrob. Get better relationship answers from someone
who knows.
Yahoo! Answers - Check it out.
Dave Downey
Harleysville (SE) PA
Zodiac 601XL/Corvair?
---------------------------------
Looking for earth-friendly autos?
Browse Top Cars by "Green Rating" at Yahoo! Autos' Green Center.
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| Subject: | Re: Vent cuttingVent cutting |
Tim and Larry,
Thank you very much for the picture and description. In reading the thread, it
appears that this flycutter can be used on the bubble! Micheal Heintz cut a round
hole in bubble of the XL prototype, but I forgot to quiz him about his method.
Idaho gets extremely hot during the summers and I need additional air.
Thanks again for your help
Mack
--------
The poh-oh-unemployed farm boy from Idaho
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Hi zenith Builders & Fliers,
Hopfully everyone is having fun building and or flying. I have question for everyone....
Are there any 701's other than Roger in Little Falls, MN? What about
601's?
later,
Ben
St. Cloud, MN
Don't get soaked. Take a quick peak at the forecast
with the Yahoo! Search weather shortcut.
http://tools.search.yahoo.com/shortcuts/#loc_weather
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Vann- I am building a 601 XL (about 60% complete) and I know many of the
building issues are similar between the 701 and the 601. Let me know if
you want to come by and look at my 601 XL project and chat. Perhaps I can
answer some questions, or we can just share experiences. I live in
Hillsborough- 10 miles west of Durham, and about a 30 minute drive from
Raleigh.
Richard Harvey
919-819-6991
----- Original Message -----
From: vann covington
To: zenith-list=40matronics.com
Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2007 7:37 AM
Subject: Zenith-List: New to list
I am new to the list. Just bought a 2006 701 partially completed kit
about 70% done. I am interested in contacting anyone owning or building
in my area of Raleigh, NC or within 100 miles. Thanks, Vann
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| Subject: | Re: Ch-701 in MN |
Ben, I'm almost in MN but not quite. I'm in Fort
Frances, ON. Probably a bit far North for you. There
is another builder in International Falls, MN as well.
We are both at about the same point, fuse mostly done
and starting on wings.
I seem to remember another builder in the Chisolm, MN
are who mentioned starting a CH-701 project last fall.
Sorry, I don't know of any flying 701s in MN at this
time.
Doug MacDonald
CH-701 Scratch Builder
Working on Spars
NW Ontario, Canada
--- Ben Ramler <ben_ramler2002@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Hi zenith Builders & Fliers,
>
> Hopfully everyone is having fun building and or
> flying. I have question for everyone.... Are there
> any 701's other than Roger in Little Falls, MN? What
> about 601's?
>
> later,
>
> Ben
> St. Cloud, MN
Get your own web address.
http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/domains/?p=BESTDEAL
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| Subject: | Re: Ch-701 in MN |
Ben,
I'm scratch building a 701 in Annandale, MN. Rear fuselage, horizontal stabilizer,
elevator, rudder, & firewall complete. Working on wings and forward fuselage
at this time. Let me know if you would like to stop by.
Bryan
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| Subject: | Re: Vent cuttingVent cutting |
> In reading the thread, it appears that this flycutter can be used on the
bubble!
I think most would agree that it is best to turn a fly cutter by hand if you
can't use it in a drill press. Same goes for cutting holes with it in sheet
aluminum.
-- Craig
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