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1. 03:49 AM - 701 bungee instal tool. Cheap and effortless (Geoff Heap)
2. 04:36 AM - Re: Ch-701 & studying (Ken Arnold)
3. 05:41 AM - Cutting a hole in plexiglass (robert stone)
4. 07:31 AM - Re: Ch-701 & studying (Robert Schoenberger)
5. 09:20 AM - Re: Ch-701 & studying (Stanley Challgren)
6. 09:35 AM - Re: Cutting a hole in plexiglass (Gig Giacona)
7. 11:55 AM - Re: Cutting a hole in plexiglass (ronlee)
8. 01:35 PM - Re: Re: Cutting a hole in plexiglass (robert stone)
9. 01:55 PM - Re: Re: Cutting a hole in plexiglass (Michael Valentine)
10. 02:42 PM - Re: Cutting a hole in plexiglass (Gig Giacona)
11. 03:17 PM - Re: Re: Cutting a hole in plexiglass (robert stone)
12. 03:45 PM - Re: Ch-701 & studying (rroberts)
13. 04:10 PM - Re: Ch-701 & studying (rbjjr)
14. 05:01 PM - Re: Ch-701 (Dave Thompson)
15. 05:06 PM - Re: Re: Ch-701 & studying (ZodieRocket)
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| Subject: | 701 bungee instal tool. Cheap and effortless |
A breaker bar does the job in seconds (180 swivel). I cut the handle off a long
one so that it just misses the engine mount. The size of the square is a nice
fit into the tube that holds the bungee. Insert the square in the tube. slip
the bungee over the handle and lift. As the handle moves up past the perpendicular
position to the strut, the bungee slides over the end and onto the tube.
Done. No sharp edges as the swivel area of the breaker bar is a little bigger
diameter than the tube. It's really effortles and needs only one hand. Taking
the bungee off again??? Probably no help. I didn't try that yet.....Geoff
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| Subject: | Re: Ch-701 & studying |
Ben,
I purchased the panel construction and the two fuselage construction
DVDs. They are all very good. You will learn a lot. A major facet is
the coverage of why you leave some rivets until later. It then starts
to make a lot of sense.
I highly recommend them.
Regards,
Ken Arnold
Pikeville, NC
CH701 N701LK 75%
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From: Ben Ramler
To: zenith-list@matronics.com
Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2007 9:33 PM
Subject: Zenith-List: Ch-701 & studying
Evening Group,
Just a question from the outside looking in from the outside sort
a speak. Has anyone seen these videos from Homebuild help that did not
go to the workshop Zenith HQ? I'm thinking I might flop my money down on
that rudder video just to give me some idea even though I won't act on
buying anything until flight training is done. I might wind up using
Gleim for my studying for the written.
take care,
Ben
EAA Member
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| Subject: | Cutting a hole in plexiglass |
Members,
I have through trial and error using 1/8" plexiglass found that the
best way to cut a hole in the canopy is with a hole saw that is new
enough to be very sharp. The trick is to make the center hole with a
drill bit going very slow (minimum pressure) once you have a center hole
position the drill bit in the saw holder so only the smooth part of the
bit is in contact with the hole you just made. Then proceed to cut the
hole. Minimum pressure is required throughout the procedure to prevent
cracking the canopy.
Those of you who live in the southern states of our great country
will for sure want to have extra vents to allow more air to enter the
cockpit during the late spring, summer and early fall but not in the
winter time so when you buy a vent to install, be sure to get one that
you can close when not in use.
Tracy Stone
Harker Heights, Tx
ZodiacXL w/Jabiru 3300
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| Subject: | Re: Ch-701 & studying |
I bought a small DVD portable player and play the video in my aircraft
factory step by step as I build. The remote lets me go back over a step
as many times as necessary. It's like having a personal instructor at my
elbow. My hat's off the Jon Croke. His videos are a great confidence
builder and shouldn't be missed. Robert Schoenberger 701
ZodieRocket wrote:
>
> I have seen them and I think they are really good, but maybe Im a bit
> biased? No Really, the videos are not a high cost production, you will
> not find any green screen shots or for that matter would you ever see
> a second take. The information is shown as if you were standing right
> there, it is a personal approach and presented with a new person in
> mind. You wont find any premadonnas it is just simple down to earth
> folks showing you the basis for the knowledge you need to build a plane.
>
> The videos are worth every cent, some can save you over two years of
> learning, the new 701 series will easily save a person at least a year
> of construction time and may even STOP the down time from not
> understanding a procedure. One thing to always remember though ,there
> are many ways of working on a part to achieve a final goal, these
> videos are not the only way to build, they are just one way and will
> provide a final result that is desirable. They are also not performed
> by actors, they are done by guys that have been there and done that
> before you and just want to share knowledge that they have accumulated
> over the years.
>
> No One has figured out the SOCK yet though! Last seen he was stealing
> the brownies. However, reports have it he may be hiding behind another
> control panel.
>
> Mark Townsend
>
> Can-Zac Aviation Ltd.
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> president@can-zacaviation.com <mailto:president@can-zacaviation.com>
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> www.can-zacaviation.com <http://www.can-zacaviation.com/>
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> -----Original Message-----
> *From:* owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *Ben Ramler
> *Sent:* Thursday, June 14, 2007 9:33 PM
> *To:* zenith-list@matronics.com
> *Subject:* Zenith-List: Ch-701 & studying
>
> Evening Group,
>
> Just a question from the outside looking in from the outside sort a
> speak. Has anyone seen these videos from Homebuild help that did not
> go to the workshop Zenith HQ? I'm thinking I might flop my money down
> on that rudder video just to give me some idea even though I won't act
> on buying anything until flight training is done. I might wind up
> using Gleim for my studying for the written.
>
> take care,
>
> Ben
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> EAA Member
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| Subject: | Re: Ch-701 & studying |
Listers:
I am finishing up on the Rear Fuselage using the DVD that Jon sells
and concur wholeheartedly with Robert's comment below. I use my
older MAC in the garage and often go over the video numerous times to
make sure I understand what the next step is. I have not made any
errors or scrapped any parts since getting the video. I still spend
some time on the Zenith drawings and pictorial guides and, on one
occasion, found the latter to be a simpler explanation to the
procedure to be followed. I will be starting on the forward fuselage
in a week or so and have Jon's video to guide the way. My thanks to
Jon for a superior instructional aid.
Stan
N701VG (Reserved)
On Jun 15, 2007, at 8:28 AM, Robert Schoenberger wrote:
>
> I bought a small DVD portable player and play the video in my
> aircraft factory step by step as I build. The remote lets me go
> back over a step as many times as necessary. It's like having a
> personal instructor at my elbow. My hat's off the Jon Croke. His
> videos are a great confidence builder and shouldn't be missed.
> Robert Schoenberger 701
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| Subject: | Re: Cutting a hole in plexiglass |
Speaking of vents. Has anyone used this one or see anyreason it wouldn't be a good
one for the 601?
--------
W.R. "Gig" Giacona
601XL Under Construction
See my progress at www.peoamerica.net/N601WR
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=118608#118608
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| Subject: | Re: Cutting a hole in plexiglass |
Gig Giacona wrote:
> Speaking of vents. Has anyone used this one or see anyreason it wouldn't be a
good one for the 601?
>
>
I have two of them in my 701 and they work well.
Extreeeeem care must be employed cutting holes in plexi glass or it can turn out
to be very costly endevor, like a new window.
With lexan you can't crack it if you tried. Well maybe if you try real hard.
--------
Ron Lee
Tucson, Arizona
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| Subject: | Re: Cutting a hole in plexiglass |
Gig,
I looked at your web site to see if "Has anyone used this one " was
in the cockpit section and it was not so I can only assume that it was
supposed to be in a picture attachment that you forgot to include!!!
Tracy Stone
Harker Heights, Tx
ZodiacXL w/Jabiru 3300
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gig Giacona" <wr.giacona@suddenlink.net>
Sent: Friday, June 15, 2007 11:34 AM
Subject: Zenith-List: Re: Cutting a hole in plexiglass
> <wr.giacona@suddenlink.net>
>
> Speaking of vents. Has anyone used this one or see anyreason it wouldn't
> be a good one for the 601?
>
>
> --------
> W.R. "Gig" Giacona
> 601XL Under Construction
> See my progress at www.peoamerica.net/N601WR
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=118608#118608
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Cutting a hole in plexiglass |
Oddly enough, that has happened to me a lot recently where the person's link
gets taken out of the email. If you go to the post on the matronic's web
version, a link to aircraft-spruce is there. That is the link he was
referring to.
Here is the link to Gig's email on the web:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=118608#118608
I don't know if it is a problem with Matronics or what.
Michael in NH
do not archive
On 6/15/07, robert stone <rstone4@hot.rr.com> wrote:
>
>
> Gig,
> I looked at your web site to see if "Has anyone used this one
> " was
> in the cockpit section and it was not so I can only assume that it was
> supposed to be in a picture attachment that you forgot to include!!!
>
> Tracy Stone
> Harker Heights, Tx
> ZodiacXL w/Jabiru 3300
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Gig Giacona" <wr.giacona@suddenlink.net>
> To: <zenith-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Friday, June 15, 2007 11:34 AM
> Subject: Zenith-List: Re: Cutting a hole in plexiglass
>
>
> > <wr.giacona@suddenlink.net>
> >
> > Speaking of vents. Has anyone used this one or see anyreason it wouldn't
> > be a good one for the 601?
> >
> >
> >
> > --------
> > W.R. "Gig" Giacona
> > 601XL Under Construction
> > See my progress at www.peoamerica.net/N601WR
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Read this topic online here:
> >
> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=118608#118608
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Cutting a hole in plexiglass |
Well let's test this just for fun. Here is the way ai did it before using the forums
URL tag.
And here it is with out the URL tags.
http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/appages/vistavents.php
rstone4(at)hot.rr.com wrote:
> Gig,
> I looked at your web site to see if "Has anyone used this one " was
> in the cockpit section and it was not so I can only assume that it was
> supposed to be in a picture attachment that you forgot to include!!!
>
> Tracy Stone
> Harker Heights, Tx
> ZodiacXL w/Jabiru 3300
>
>
> ---
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W.R. "Gig" Giacona
601XL Under Construction
See my progress at www.peoamerica.net/N601WR
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=118647#118647
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| Subject: | Re: Cutting a hole in plexiglass |
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gig Giacona" <wr.giacona@suddenlink.net>
Sent: Friday, June 15, 2007 4:40 PM
Subject: Zenith-List: Re: Cutting a hole in plexiglass
<wr.giacona@suddenlink.net>
>
> Well let's test this just for fun. Here is the way ai did it before
using the forums URL tag.
>
Gig, If something is supposed to be here, it isn't
>
> And here it is with out the URL tags.
>
> http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/appages/vistavents.php
>
> Opening the above web site showed a page from Acft Spruce with a
picture of the vent.
>
>
> rstone4(at)hot.rr.com wrote:
>> Gig,
>> I looked at your web site to see if "Has anyone used this one
" was
>> in the cockpit section and it was not so I can only assume that it
was
>> supposed to be in a picture attachment that you forgot to include!!!
>>
>> Tracy Stone
>> Harker Heights, Tx
>> ZodiacXL w/Jabiru 3300
>>
>>
>> ---
>
>
> --------
> W.R. "Gig" Giacona
> 601XL Under Construction
> See my progress at www.peoamerica.net/N601WR
>
>
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=118647#118647
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Ch-701 & studying |
Do they come in Betamax? :D
(I have the entire collection....wouldn't dream of getting an A4 out of the bag
without using them.....) A must have!
--------
Low & Slow
Rick
www.n701rr.com
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| Subject: | Re: Ch-701 & studying |
Just about finished my rudder and am starting on the stab soon. I have not attended
any workshop and have found the video invaluable. Watch it before you
start, watch it along the way as a refresher and watch it for specific sections
if you get stuck. It's clarified things for me several times. I would highly
recommend them.
Burke Johnson
CH701
Irvington, VA
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Ben,
I purchased the "Metalworking 101" video from Homebuilt help and watched it
3 times just before I went to the Factory rudder workshop. It made the
building much easier. However, the video is for a 701 rudder and I built a
601 rudder. There is one part of the spar that you cut the corners off for
the 701 but do not on the 601. I got arrogant and cut off the corners before
I looked at the plans. STUPID!! One lesson that I learned is to READ THE
PLANS! DUUUA!!!
To sum it up:
After seeing the video I felt I could probably start building. After taking
the workshop, I was sure that I could. I've spent much more than $300.00 on
a weekend and didn't have half as much fun. Even if I don't end up building,
I still have a rudder hanging in my shop to remind me of the good time that
I had. You don't have to wait until you get your ticket before you start.
I also have a copy of "Scratch Building Basics for Metal Aircraft" that
Larry Winger loaned me (I've got to get it back to him!). It is also a great
video.
Just my two cents worth
Dave Thompson
Westminster, CA
New shop, Corvair engine in parts, Rudder Workshop, Scratch-built stab
skeleton and no money : (
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| Subject: | Re: Ch-701 & studying |
Not sure about betamax, but we could ask for 8mm and all dig those old
projectors out of the basement, now where did I put that screen?
Mark Townsend Alma, Ontario
Zodiac 601XL C-GOXL, CH701 just started
www.ch601.org / www.ch701.com / www.Osprey2.com
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-----Original Message-----
From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of rroberts
Sent: Friday, June 15, 2007 6:43 PM
Subject: Zenith-List: Re: Ch-701 & studying
Do they come in Betamax? :D
(I have the entire collection....wouldn't dream of getting an A4 out of
the bag without using them.....) A must have!
--------
Low & Slow
Rick
www.n701rr.com
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