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1. 12:03 AM - Re: Re: Zenith 601XL and Corvair Engine (Craig Payne)
2. 04:54 AM - Re: Re: Zenith 601XL and Corvair Engine (Phil Maxson)
3. 01:43 PM - Re: Zenith Builders Monday Night Chat (Aaron Gustafson)
4. 02:30 PM - Re: Zenith Builders Monday Night Chat (Rob St Denis)
5. 03:47 PM - Is it time to rebel (wade jones)
6. 04:45 PM - Re: Is it time to rebel (Jim Hoak)
7. 05:22 PM - Mounting horizontal stab and fairings (Edward Moody II)
8. 06:14 PM - Re: Mounting horizontal stab and fairings (Carlos Sa)
9. 07:02 PM - Re: Is it time to rebel (Paul Mulwitz)
10. 07:45 PM - Re: Mounting horizontal stab and fairings (Tim Juhl)
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| Subject: | Re: Zenith 601XL and Corvair Engine |
> Speaking of Corvairs, does anybody have a detailed spreadsheet of the
itemized parts and sources used to make the Corvair engine flight worthy?
This is out of date but a start:
http://www.experimental-aviation.com/Corvair/Engine_cost.html
-- Craig
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| Subject: | Re: Zenith 601XL and Corvair Engine |
The performance numbers I posted last year still remain true, except for on
e interesting fact. I picked up about 100 RPM more and about 5 mph increas
e in speed as the engine broke in. I now have about 130 hours on it and it
is performing flawlessly. The people at fly-ins and at my local field alw
ays comment on the climb performance. It is excellent.
I built my engine in William's hangar, and finished my plane in his hangar
before there was flywithgus.com. It was a great experience and I recommend
it to anyone. William has always done the right thing by me, and he alway
s has an answer for problems when they arise. Attend his presentations at
Sun-n-Fun or Oshkosh, attend a Corvair College and see for yourself. The C
orvair engine is not for everyone, but it is working out well for me any my
family.Phil Maxson
601XL/Corvair
Northwest New Jersey
From: craig@craigandjean.comTo: zenith-list@matronics.comSubject: RE: Zenit
h-List: Re: Zenith 601XL and Corvair EngineDate: Wed, 27 Jun 2007 23:08:51
-0600
These are the numbers for Phil Maxson's 601XL (from the archives):
"Corvair, 164 cubic inch, front start, WW conversion, Elison EFS-3A Carb Wa
rp Drive Prop, Set to 8.5 degrees Empty Weight: 777 pounds Gross Weight: 13
20 pounds Cruise Speed: 125 mph, 3100 rpm, Std atmospheric conditions, gros
s weight Fuel Burn: 5.5 gph Other factors: nose wheel, no wheel pants, no b
rake line fairings, no fairing on the steps Climb: 1200 fpm. This is the fi
rst set-up I've tried. I want to put on wheel pants and fairings this winte
r, as well as change the prop pitch a little. The climb performance is over
whelming, but I believe it is robbing me of top end performance. I am also
interested in using an Sensenich wood prop, but I don't know when that will
happen."
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| Subject: | Re: Zenith Builders Monday Night Chat |
OK, so I registered. Now what are these chat room choices? What more do I
need to join the chat?
Aaron Gustafson
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From: "leinad" <leinad@hughes.net>
Subject: Zenith-List: Zenith Builders Monday Night Chat
> The Zenith Builders chat has gotten off to a good start. > So I encourage
> everyone who can to sign on to the chat sight on Monday nights starting at
> 8:00 PM EST. We'd really appreciate more folks with building experience
> to stop by and share, and welcome more beginners like me as well.
> Here's the link:
> http://chat.iahu.ca/
> See you all there!
> Dan Dempsey
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| Subject: | Re: Zenith Builders Monday Night Chat |
the main room is fine enough ... it defaults to 5 rooms so I was a bit off
when I named the others
On 6/29/07, Aaron Gustafson <agustafson@chartermi.net> wrote:
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> agustafson@chartermi.net>
>
> OK, so I registered. Now what are these chat room choices? What more do I
> need to join the chat?
>
> Aaron Gustafson
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "leinad" <leinad@hughes.net>
> Subject: Zenith-List: Zenith Builders Monday Night Chat
>
>
> > The Zenith Builders chat has gotten off to a good start. > So I
> encourage
> > everyone who can to sign on to the chat sight on Monday nights starting
> at
> > 8:00 PM EST. We'd really appreciate more folks with building experience
> > to stop by and share, and welcome more beginners like me as well.
> > Here's the link:
> > http://chat.iahu.ca/
> > See you all there!
> > Dan Dempsey
>
>
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| Subject: | Is it time to rebel |
Hello group ,just got this small order delivered today and the shipping
cost was $9.12 . At these shipping costs my 601XL is getting more
expensive each day .The shipping cost is determined by the price of the
order and not by weight I was told by AS .Maybe it is time to rebel ,
like it would do some good . Just venting my anger ,plese bear with me .
Wade
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| Subject: | Re: Is it time to rebel |
Wade & List,
It is hard to see so far ahead but that is one thing a airplane builder
needs to learn as best he or she can. That way you can consolidate your
orders and hopefully reduce the shipping costs. If you get to SunNFun ,
AirVenture or a Regional Fly-In you can pick up the parts while you're
there anyway. Takes planning though.
I live within 40 miles of A/C Spruce East, but at todays gasoline
prices, it costs more to drive over to pick up the parts than it does to
order online and have the parts shipped to the house.
When I built my 601HD in 1995 / 1996 the kit came with a fairly
complete hardware parts box as well as all the airplane parts. I still
had to buy a lot of parts through the mail. Maybe I don't want to know
how much freight charges I paid over the entire project!
Hang in there Wade and plan ahead as much as you can and do the best you
can. Hey, the UPS and FedEX folks have to make a living too.
do not archive
Jim Hoak
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From: wade jones
To: zenith-list@matronics.com
Sent: Friday, June 29, 2007 5:46 PM
Subject: Zenith-List: Is it time to rebel
Hello group ,just got this small order delivered today and the
shipping cost was $9.12 . At these shipping costs my 601XL is getting
more expensive each day .The shipping cost is determined by the price
of the order and not by weight I was told by AS .Maybe it is time to
rebel , like it would do some good . Just venting my anger ,plese bear
with me . Wade
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| Subject: | Mounting horizontal stab and fairings |
Hi to all,
I'm having no luck finding useful photos of the fairing that closes
up the gap under the horizontal stabilizer. If left to my own
imagination, I'm sure I can come up with something but I'd appreciate
the opportunity to see what some of you have done. If you have some
useful photos and/or hints, please..... hook a brother up.
Dred
601XL
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| Subject: | Re: Mounting horizontal stab and fairings |
A while back, somebody posted a pattern for an aluminum fairing (rudder /
stab).
I know I have a copy on my laptop or my home PC. There may be one in file
share as well.
I'll do some searching tomorrow and let you know.
Cheers
Carlos
CH601-HD, plans
On 29/06/07, Edward Moody II <dredmoody@cox.net> wrote:
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> Hi to all,
>
> I'm having no luck finding useful photos of the fairing that closes up
> the gap under the horizontal stabilizer. If left to my own imagination, I'm
> sure I can come up with something but I'd appreciate the opportunity to see
> what some of you have done. If you have some useful photos and/or hints,
> please..... hook a brother up.
>
> Dred
> 601XL
>
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| Subject: | Re: Is it time to rebel |
Hi Wade,
I agree with you. It pays to be careful with shipping expenses.
With Aircraft Spruce there are many shipping options. I usually
choose first class mail (USPS) since this is the least expensive and
generally the fastest method for shipping small orders like the one
in your picture.
Have fun,
Paul
XL fuselage
At 03:46 PM 6/29/2007, you wrote:
>Hello group ,just got this small order delivered today and the
>shipping cost was $9.12 . At these shipping costs my 601XL is
>getting more expensive each day .The shipping cost is determined by
>the price of the order and not by weight I was told by AS .Maybe it
>is time to rebel , like it would do some good . Just venting my
>anger ,plese bear with me . Wade
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Mounting horizontal stab and fairings |
I would hope that any fairing allows inspection of the stab mounting bolts and
brackets. That is one area I would want to keep track of.
TIm
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