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1. 04:52 AM - Re: Shipping costs (Zed Smith)
2. 06:23 AM - Re: Shipping prices (Bill Naumuk)
3. 06:50 AM - Re: Shipping prices (Crvsecretary@aol.com)
4. 07:36 AM - Re: 701 (Geoff Heap)
5. 07:37 AM - Re: Re: Shipping costs (Bryan Martin)
6. 07:56 AM - Re: 601 dual time (Tim Juhl)
7. 08:02 AM - Re: Canopy latching system (robert stone)
8. 08:16 AM - Re: Re: 601 dual time (Jeff)
9. 08:44 AM - Re: Canopy latching system (robert stone)
10. 09:39 AM - Re: Shipping prices (Edward Moody II)
11. 09:59 AM - Re: Canopy latching system (rickpitcher)
12. 10:05 AM - Re: Canopy latching system (Bryan Martin)
13. 10:14 AM - Re: Canopy latching system (Jack Russell)
14. 11:30 AM - Re: Re: 601 dual time (Terry Phillips)
15. 11:56 AM - Tools (Robert Schoenberger)
16. 02:43 PM - Re: Canopy latching system (robert stone)
17. 03:20 PM - Scratch Building Fuel Tank (William Dominguez)
18. 03:34 PM - Re: Scratch Building Fuel Tank (Afterfxllc@aol.com)
19. 03:48 PM - Re: Scratch Building Fuel Tank (Carlos Sa)
20. 03:52 PM - Re: Canopy latching system (Steve Shuck)
21. 04:19 PM - Re: Shipping prices (Bill Naumuk)
22. 04:19 PM - Re: Scratch Building Fuel Tank (William Dominguez)
23. 04:44 PM - Ham Radio (George Race)
24. 05:06 PM - Re: Ham Radio (Ben Ramler)
25. 05:34 PM - Re: Ham Radio (Peter Dunning)
26. 06:13 PM - Re: Scratch Building Fuel Tank (Afterfxllc@aol.com)
27. 06:35 PM - Re: Ham Radio (burbby)
28. 06:47 PM - Re: Canopy latching system (Jack Russell)
29. 06:47 PM - Re: Canopy latching system (Jack Russell)
30. 07:35 PM - Re: Ham Radio (Ben Ramler)
31. 10:02 PM - Re: Ham Radio (wa7dvd)
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| Subject: | Re: Shipping costs |
do not archive
List,
Not ALL of the fee listed as "shipping" on your invoice is actually going to UPS
or FedEx.
Large-volume shippers get lower-than-published rates with these carriers but charge
you the "normal" fee. This "difference" is another way to make a profit.
If the shipper can make just one dollar on each parcel, and the minimum-wage shipping
clerk processes 25 small boxes per hour, then that department makes a profit
or at least breaks even.
Note that the U.S. postal system also has cut-rate plans......look at the junk
mail rates, or the less-than-full-fee on your bank statement.
Wonder how much it would cost for shipping on green ScotchBrite pads?
Regards to all,
Zed
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| Subject: | Re: Shipping prices |
All-
The key word here is SMALL. If it won't fit in your mailbox, 9 times
out of 10 you have to factor in your time and vehicle expense for a
round trip to the post office. Also, if the package you're shipping
won't fit through the USPS automatic canceling machines you're assessed
a surcharge that will make you wince. The USPS limits are approximately
half what UPS allows before assessing a surcharge.
So, what you have to do is tailor the carrier to the size of your
package. For a handful of nuts+bolts, you can't beat USPS. For anything
bigger than about 2'x3', UPS is much less expensive.
FedEx is a different story. FedEx Freight personnel are independent
contractors and as not rigidly controlled as USPS and UPS personnel.
Your service is dependent on the individual driver's work ethic.
Bill Naumuk
HDS Fuse/Corvair
Townville, Pa
----- Original Message -----
From: wade jones
To: zenith-list@matronics.com
Sent: Monday, July 02, 2007 9:02 PM
Subject: Zenith-List: Shipping prices
Hello group ,a couple of days ago I posted a message where UPS charged
$9.12 shipping on a small order .Today I took the small order to my
local post office .They weigh it and said their shipping cost would be
less than $2.50 .AS said we had the option of using UPS or postal
delivery so in the future if possible I will use the postal service .
Wade Jones South Texas
601XL plans building
Cont. 0200
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| Subject: | Re: Shipping prices |
Hello Bill:
One final thought on FedEx.... I agree with your assessment FULLY but please
do not be misled...the only independent contractors I am aware of is the Fed
Ex Home Delivery Service...NOT Fed Ex Express and not Fed Ex Ground.
If Fed Ex is your choice, try to get them to deliver to your work address.
Commercial accounts are served by Fed Ex Express and Fed Ex Ground no matter
what the package size. Fed Ex Home Delivery has a 75 pound limit. Fed Ex
FREIGHT is a trucking company, not a parcel delivery service. Fed Ex Freight
has its roots as the old AFS trucking company.
I have had some extraordinary deliveries made by Fed Ex Home Delivery - they
work Tuesday through Saturday (no service on Monday) and deliver as late as
7 PM. However, I have also hade some LOUSY deliveries as well.
Tracy Smith
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In a message dated 7/3/2007 8:25:02 AM Eastern Standard Time,
naumuk@alltel.net writes:
All-
The key word here is SMALL. If it won't fit in your mailbox, 9 times out
of 10 you have to factor in your time and vehicle expense for a round trip
to the post office. Also, if the package you're shipping won't fit through the
USPS automatic canceling machines you're assessed a surcharge that will make
you wince. The USPS limits are approximately half what UPS allows before
assessing a surcharge.
So, what you have to do is tailor the carrier to the size of your package.
For a handful of nuts+bolts, you can't beat USPS. For anything bigger than
about 2'x3', UPS is much less expensive.
FedEx is a different story. FedEx Freight personnel are independent
contractors and as not rigidly controlled as USPS and UPS personnel. Your service
is dependent on the individual driver's work ethic.
Bill Naumuk
HDS Fuse/Corvair
Townville, Pa
----- Original Message -----
From: _wade jones_ (mailto:wjones@brazoriainet.com)
Sent: Monday, July 02, 2007 9:02 PM
Subject: Zenith-List: Shipping prices
Hello group ,a couple of days ago I posted a message where UPS charged $9.12
shipping on a small order .Today I took the small order to my local post
office .They weigh it and said their shipping cost would be less than $2.50 .AS
said we had the option of using UPS or postal delivery so in the future if
possible I will use the postal service .
Wade Jones South Texas
601XL plans building
Cont. 0200
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I plan on putting one in. All my major are paid for except the following. I am
just about ready to puchase the Dynon as my major instrument. Last (before fitting
the windshield) I will get the BRS. I think for the 701 it's about $3,500.
that should take me up to $33,000....Geoff
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| Subject: | Re: Shipping costs |
The Postal Service also subsidizes its Parcel Post service with its
First Class Mail rates, that's the only way they can beat UPS's rates in
the first place. The USPS has never made any money on Parcel Post and
never lost any money on First Class Mail.
Zed Smith wrote:
>
> do not archive
>
> List,
>
> Not ALL of the fee listed as "shipping" on your invoice is actually going to
UPS or FedEx.
> Large-volume shippers get lower-than-published rates with these carriers but
charge you the "normal" fee. This "difference" is another way to make a profit.
>
> If the shipper can make just one dollar on each parcel, and the minimum-wage
shipping clerk processes 25 small boxes per hour, then that department makes a
profit or at least breaks even.
>
> Note that the U.S. postal system also has cut-rate plans......look at the junk
mail rates, or the less-than-full-fee on your bank statement.
>
> Wonder how much it would cost for shipping on green ScotchBrite pads?
>
> Regards to all,
>
> Zed
>
--
Bryan Martin
Zenith 601XL N61BM
Ram Subaru, Stratus redrive
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| Subject: | Re: 601 dual time |
91.319e2 allows flight training in an experimental aircraft that the person receiving
training provides - this expires January 31, 2010.
91.319h - you can request a deviation from the FAA to conduct flight training in
an experimental aircraft (for compensation). The request must be made 60 days
in advance of the proposed operation. You must provide a complete description
of the proposed operation and justification as to why it should be allowed.
If granted, the deviation may be quite specific as to how and who you may instruct.
Having never instructed in an experimental aircraft I have no idea how these would
work in reality. The EAA would be a good source of info on this subject.
Tim
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CFII
Champ L16A flying
Zodiac XL - Jabiru 3300A
Working on wings
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| Subject: | Re: Canopy latching system |
Steve,
Then do so and put your ideas out on the net. This is how we come
to the best way to do anything. If you have a better way, I would sure
be interested. I have built both a KR-1 and KR-2 and now own a ZodiacXL
with the Jabiru 3300 engine so I am not without experence but this does
not mean my ideas cannot be improved on.
Tracy Stone
----- Original Message -----
From: Steve Shuck
To: zenith-list@matronics.com
Sent: Monday, July 02, 2007 11:22 PM
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Canopy latching system
I like your idea of separate latches, however I think I can expand on
it.
----- Original Message -----
From: robert stone
To: Zenith list
Sent: Monday, July 02, 2007 2:54 PM
Subject: Zenith-List: Canopy latching system
Wade,
I would not advise any builder to use the latching system from
Zenith.
I have had nothing but trouble from mine since the airplane was new.
First
the canopy would not latch so on the advice from some of the net
members, I
raised the lower latch part by 1/8th inch using a shim under it.
Then the
canopy would latch and now when it is latched and I am trying to
open it
turning the knob on the left side of the canopy, it sticks. I plan
to
eliminate the entire system and use latches like the ones on the box
I have
enclosed a picture of. I would advise anyone building this aircraft
to do
the same. This is the system being used on all KR aircraft and I
know from
experence, it works fine and if you are scratch building it's a lot
cheaper.
Tracy Stone
Harker Heights, Tx
ZodiacXL w/Jabiru 3300
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| Subject: | Re: 601 dual time |
601XL flight schools copied from the mysportplane.com web site:
http://www.mysportplane.com/
A) Dragonfly Aviation - Santa Rosa, CA
Contact: Bob Archibald, Tel: 707-575-8750
B) Thornburgh Flight Training - Torrence, CA
Contact: John at 1-800-971-8710 (v.m.)
C) League of Extraordinary Flyers - Phoenix, AZ
Contact: Sky McCorkle, Tel: 480-785-5835
D) Tulip City Air Services, Inc. - Holland, MI
Contact Ron at 616-392-7831 or 1- 800-748-0515
E) Palm Beach Flight Training, LLC - Lantana, FL
Contact: Mariam Smith, Tel: 561-063-8821
F) Coming soon to an area near you...
Jeff D.
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| Subject: | Re: Canopy latching system |
Bryan,
In a situation where a pilot must be extracted by people outside the
destruction of the canopy is of no importance and having just cut two holes
in mine to install air vents I found that it is thinner than 1/8 inch. It
looks to be just thick and therefore strong enough to hold up when flying at
140 MPH but not hard to break in an emergency.
Tracy Stone
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bryan Martin" <bryanmmartin@comcast.net>
Sent: Monday, July 02, 2007 11:47 PM
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Canopy latching system
>
> I haven't had any trouble with mine in 200 hours other than having one
> side come open in flight a couple of times due to not ensuring that it was
> fully latched. One good thing about the supplied latching system is that
> in case of an emergency, the canopy can be easily opened from the outside
> by rescue personnel. I have seen homebuilts with canopy latching systems
> that do not allow it to be opened from the outside. The only way to get an
> unconscious pilot out in an emergency would be to break open the canopy.
>
>
> robert stone wrote:
>> Wade,
>> I would not advise any builder to use the latching system from
>> Zenith.
>> I have had nothing but trouble from mine since the airplane was new.
>> First
>> the canopy would not latch so on the advice from some of the net members,
>> I
>> raised the lower latch part by 1/8th inch using a shim under it. Then
>> the
>> canopy would latch and now when it is latched and I am trying to open it
>> turning the knob on the left side of the canopy, it sticks. I plan to
>> eliminate the entire system and use latches like the ones on the box I
>> have
>> enclosed a picture of. I would advise anyone building this aircraft to
>> do
>> the same. This is the system being used on all KR aircraft and I know
>> from
>> experence, it works fine and if you are scratch building it's a lot
>> cheaper.
>> Tracy Stone
>> Harker Heights, Tx
>> ZodiacXL w/Jabiru 3300
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>
> --
> Bryan Martin
> Zenith 601XL N61BM
> Ram Subaru, Stratus redrive
> Do Not Archive
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Shipping prices |
No problem here..... my office is next door to the post office.
Dred
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----- Original Message -----
From: Bill Naumuk
To: zenith-list@matronics.com
Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2007 8:24 AM
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Shipping prices
All-
The key word here is SMALL. If it won't fit in your mailbox, 9
times out of 10 you have to factor in your time and vehicle expense for
a round trip to the post office.
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| Subject: | Re: Canopy latching system |
rstone4(at)hot.rr.com wrote:
> when it is latched and I am trying to open it
> turning the knob on the left side of the canopy, it sticks.
>
> Tracy Stone
> Harker Heights, Tx
> ZodiacXL w/Jabiru 3300
You might try to adjust the latch mechanism so it doesn't stick. When I made my
latches I used some '87 Mazda trunk latchs * with the remote release mechanism.
I had to adjust the trip-wire on both latches so they would release at the
same time. It's not that difficult.
BTW, I understand that you have already considered emergency egress. In case of
a problem the rescuers will just smash the canopy open. But if you use the suitcase
latches on the inside, how are you planning on latching the canopy from
the outside after you park the airplane? Another set of latches?
Rick
* The Mazda trunk latches are almost identical in appearance to the Zenith latches,
but with built-in switches that light up a "trunk unlocked" light on the
dashboard of the car. I used these to turn off a pair of red lights on the annunciator
panel marked "Canopy Unlatched". The lights stay lit until the latch
on the corresponding side of the canopy is securly locked. Works great!
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| Subject: | Re: Canopy latching system |
That's true, but doing so takes longer, takes more effort and may
require some kind of tool. The rescuer then has to reach in past the
broken shards of the canopy to extract the pilot.
The first person on the scene may have nothing but bare hands to work
with. In a dire emergency, time may be in very short supply. It would be
much quicker and easier if all the rescuer had to do is turn a handle,
lift the canopy and then have fewer obstacles to overcome to get the
pilot out.
There have been many cases where the pilot was dragged from a burning
wreck by a bystander before professional, fully equipped rescuers could
get to the, by then, burned out hulk. There have also been cases where
the pilot died because the rescuer could not break through the structure
in time.
I remember one accident during Oshkosh a few years ago where a plane
crashed in a neighborhood near the field and witnesses to the crash had
to break open the canopy to get at the occupants. They managed to get
the passenger out but the pilot died in the fire before they could get
him out. If the canopy were easier to open, the results might have been
different.
robert stone wrote:
>
> Bryan,
> In a situation where a pilot must be extracted by people outside the
> destruction of the canopy is of no importance and having just cut two
> holes in mine to install air vents I found that it is thinner than 1/8
> inch. It looks to be just thick and therefore strong enough to hold up
> when flying at 140 MPH but not hard to break in an emergency.
>
> Tracy Stone
>
--
Bryan Martin
Zenith 601XL N61BM
Ram Subaru, Stratus redrive
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| Subject: | Re: Canopy latching system |
dont understand how that would work on the outside? j
Steve Shuck <stshuck@comcast.net> wrote:
I like your idea of separate latches, however I think I can expand on
it.
----- Original Message -----
From: robert stone
To: Zenith list
Sent: Monday, July 02, 2007 2:54 PM
Subject: Zenith-List: Canopy latching system
Wade,
I would not advise any builder to use the latching system from Zenith.
I have had nothing but trouble from mine since the airplane was new. First
the canopy would not latch so on the advice from some of the net members, I
raised the lower latch part by 1/8th inch using a shim under it. Then the
canopy would latch and now when it is latched and I am trying to open it
turning the knob on the left side of the canopy, it sticks. I plan to
eliminate the entire system and use latches like the ones on the box I have
enclosed a picture of. I would advise anyone building this aircraft to do
the same. This is the system being used on all KR aircraft and I know from
experence, it works fine and if you are scratch building it's a lot cheaper.
Tracy Stone
Harker Heights, Tx
ZodiacXL w/Jabiru 3300
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| Subject: | Re: 601 dual time |
For the past year I have been bookmarking sites that offer training that I
think looks promising. Looking closely, I find that most of my bookmarks
are merely other names for the flight schools that Jeff lists.
Thinking that it would be nice to have an updated list available online, I
decided to post Jeff's list to the Matronics Wiki. The advantage of the
Wiki is that anyone can add new entries or delete any that are in error.
Check out:
http://www.matronics.com/wiki/index.php/601_Flight_Training
and see if it works OK for you. And, of course, if you know of any other
flight schools offering 601 training, add them to the list. Also, if you
know of flight schools using 601-similar planes like the Tecnam or Diamond
Katana, add them to the page "Almost 601 flight training."
Terry
At 11:15 AM 7/3/2007 -0400, you wrote:
>
>601XL flight schools copied from the mysportplane.com web site:
>
>http://www.mysportplane.com/
>
>A) Dragonfly Aviation - Santa Rosa, CA
>Contact: Bob Archibald, Tel: 707-575-8750
>B) Thornburgh Flight Training - Torrence, CA
>Contact: John at 1-800-971-8710 (v.m.)
>C) League of Extraordinary Flyers - Phoenix, AZ
>Contact: Sky McCorkle, Tel: 480-785-5835
>D) Tulip City Air Services, Inc. - Holland, MI
>Contact Ron at 616-392-7831 or 1- 800-748-0515
>E) Palm Beach Flight Training, LLC - Lantana, FL
>Contact: Mariam Smith, Tel: 561-063-8821
>F) Coming soon to an area near you...
>
>Jeff D.
>
Terry Phillips
ttp44~at~rkymtn.net
Corvallis MT
601XL/Jab 3300 slow build kit - Rudder done--finally--now working on the stab
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List . . . . just a short email to tell what a pleasant experience it
is to deal with Brown Tool out of Oklahoma City. I placed an order for
for 9 threaded drill bits, a package of drill stops, and 2 vise grip
clamps (terrific - much better than the spring type) on Friday after
lunch. Mike said they would go out that afternoon. and I received the
box Monday morning. Shipping and handling was $5.95. It doesn't get
much better that that! Call 1-800-587-3883 and request their 130 pg
catalog. I don't haave any financial interest in this firm. It's just
a pleasure to get such good service. All the other times I've ordered
from them, it's been the same. Robert Schoenberger 701
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| Subject: | Re: Canopy latching system |
Jack,
These latches are mounted on the inside, not the outside.
Tracy
----- Original Message -----
From: Jack Russell
To: zenith-list@matronics.com
Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2007 12:12 PM
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Canopy latching system
dont understand how that would work on the outside? j
Steve Shuck <stshuck@comcast.net> wrote:
I like your idea of separate latches, however I think I can expand
on it.
----- Original Message -----
From: robert stone
To: Zenith list
Sent: Monday, July 02, 2007 2:54 PM
Subject: Zenith-List: Canopy latching system
Wade,
I would not advise any builder to use the latching system
from Zenith.
I have had nothing but trouble from mine since the airplane was
new. First
the canopy would not latch so on the advice from some of the net
members, I
raised the lower latch part by 1/8th inch using a shim under it.
Then the
canopy would latch and now when it is latched and I am trying to
open it
turning the knob on the left side of the canopy, it sticks. I
plan to
eliminate the entire system and use latches like the ones on the
box I have
enclosed a picture of. I would advise anyone building this
aircraft to do
the same. This is the system being used on all KR aircraft and I
know from
experence, it works fine and if you are scratch
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| Subject: | Scratch Building Fuel Tank |
Im strongly leaning toward building my fuel tanks using the riveting and pro-seal
method instead of welding it. I read the archives and there where a significant
number of builders using the pro-seal method in the past. I have 2 questions;
Is there any Zodiac currently flying with the pro-sealed and riveted tank method?
How sensitive to humidity is pro-seal when being applied?
William Dominguez
Zodiac 601XL Plans
Miami Florida
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| Subject: | Re: Scratch Building Fuel Tank |
William I don't know if this will help you or not but all Vans aircraft fue
l
tanks are built with rivets and pro seal and I can tell you that if you go
that route you need to be ready for it to get every where. If you think abou
t
it getting on something chances are it will be there. But it is some good
stuff and if you aren't gonna use it for a while after you buy it keep it i
n the
fridge it lasts longer.
Jeff
I=99m strongly leaning toward building my fuel tanks using the riveti
ng and
pro-seal method instead of welding it. I read the archives and there where
a
significant number of builders using the pro-seal method in the past. I ha
ve 2
questions;
Is there any Zodiac currently flying with the pro-sealed and riveted tank
method?
How sensitive to humidity is pro-seal when being applied?
William Dominguez
Zodiac 601XL Plans
Miami Florida
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| Subject: | Re: Scratch Building Fuel Tank |
William, I am not flying yet, but I can share my building experience with
you.
I have a bunch of pictures I can send your way - let me know...
(Actually, I have a 12.4 MB power point file I used for a presentation at
the local EAA chapter).
I found that the trick is plenty of planning and preparation.
Carlos
On 03/07/07, William Dominguez <bill_dom@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> I'm strongly leaning toward building my fuel tanks using the riveting and
> pro-seal method instead of welding it. I read the archives and there where a
> significant number of builders using the pro-seal method in the past. I
> have 2 questions;
> Is there any Zodiac currently flying with the pro-sealed and riveted tank
> method?
> How sensitive to humidity is pro-seal when being applied?
>
> William Dominguez
> Zodiac 601XL Plans
> Miami Florida
>
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| Subject: | Re: Canopy latching system |
It won't, you will have to get yourself out..
----- Original Message -----
From: Jack Russell
To: zenith-list@matronics.com
Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2007 10:12 AM
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Canopy latching system
dont understand how that would work on the outside? j
Steve Shuck <stshuck@comcast.net> wrote:
I like your idea of separate latches, however I think I can expand
on it.
----- Original Message -----
From: robert stone
To: Zenith list
Sent: Monday, July 02, 2007 2:54 PM
Subject: Zenith-List: Canopy latching system
Wade,
I would not advise any builder to use the latching system
from Zenith.
I have had nothing but trouble from mine since the airplane was
new. First
the canopy would not latch so on the advice from some of the net
members, I
raised the lower latch part by 1/8th inch using a shim under it.
Then the
canopy would latch and now when it is latched and I am trying to
open it
turning the knob on the left side of the canopy, it sticks. I
plan to
eliminate the entire system and use latches like the ones on the
box I have
enclosed a picture of. I would advise anyone building this
aircraft to do
the same. This is the system being used on all KR aircraft and I
know from
experence, it works fine and if you are scratch
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| Subject: | Re: Shipping prices |
Tracy-
One of the people from our shipping department just cashed in his
401K and bought a truck. He said he was contracting for FedEx ground. If
I'm wrong, it's because he's wrong. Of course, that might explain quite
a lot!
As far as shipping and receiving from work, that applies for any
carrier because then you can get the commercial discount.
Bill Naumuk
HDS Fuse/Corvair
Townville, Pa
----- Original Message -----
From: Crvsecretary@aol.com
To: zenith-list@matronics.com
Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2007 9:49 AM
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Shipping prices
Hello Bill:
One final thought on FedEx.... I agree with your assessment FULLY but
please do not be misled...the only independent contractors I am aware of
is the Fed Ex Home Delivery Service...NOT Fed Ex Express and not Fed Ex
Ground.
If Fed Ex is your choice, try to get them to deliver to your work
address. Commercial accounts are served by Fed Ex Express and Fed Ex
Ground no matter what the package size. Fed Ex Home Delivery has a 75
pound limit. Fed Ex FREIGHT is a trucking company, not a parcel
delivery service. Fed Ex Freight has its roots as the old AFS trucking
company.
I have had some extraordinary deliveries made by Fed Ex Home Delivery
- they work Tuesday through Saturday (no service on Monday) and deliver
as late as 7 PM. However, I have also hade some LOUSY deliveries as
well.
Tracy Smith
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naumuk@alltel.net writes:
All-
The key word here is SMALL. If it won't fit in your mailbox, 9
times out of 10 you have to factor in your time and vehicle expense for
a round trip to the post office. Also, if the package you're shipping
won't fit through the USPS automatic canceling machines you're assessed
a surcharge that will make you wince. The USPS limits are approximately
half what UPS allows before assessing a surcharge.
So, what you have to do is tailor the carrier to the size of
your package. For a handful of nuts+bolts, you can't beat USPS. For
anything bigger than about 2'x3', UPS is much less expensive.
FedEx is a different story. FedEx Freight personnel are
independent contractors and as not rigidly controlled as USPS and UPS
personnel. Your service is dependent on the individual driver's work
ethic.
Bill Naumuk
HDS Fuse/Corvair
Townville, Pa
----- Original Message -----
From: wade jones
To: zenith-list@matronics.com
Sent: Monday, July 02, 2007 9:02 PM
Subject: Zenith-List: Shipping prices
Hello group ,a couple of days ago I posted a message where UPS
charged $9.12 shipping on a small order .Today I took the small order to
my local post office .They weigh it and said their shipping cost would
be less than $2.50 .AS said we had the option of using UPS or postal
delivery so in the future if possible I will use the postal service .
Wade Jones South Texas
601XL plans building
Cont. 0200
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| Subject: | Re: Scratch Building Fuel Tank |
Yes, I've also spent some time in the RV list archive and learned that the pro-seal
is a very messy operation. The problem with the other alternative (welding)
is either, buy a Tig welder (for the price of a tig welder you can buy the
tanks from ZAC), gas weld it (need like a year or more to learn) or have it weld
it by a professional (I don't know any good welder who could be up to the task
and I don't like the idea of knowing someone is not good until your parts
have been damaged). So the DIY with the messy pro-seal seems to be the best alternative.
William Dominguez
Zodiac 601XL Plans
Miami Florida
Afterfxllc@aol.com wrote: William I don't know if this will help you or not
but all Vans aircraft fuel tanks are built with rivets and pro seal and I can
tell you that if you go that route you need to be ready for it to get every
where. If you think about it getting on something chances are it will be there.
But it is some good stuff and if you aren't gonna use it for a while after
you buy it keep it in the fridge it lasts longer.
Jeff
Im strongly leaning toward building my fuel tanks using the riveting and
pro-seal method instead of welding it. I read the archives and there where
a significant number of builders using the pro-seal method in the past. I
have 2 questions;
Is there any Zodiac currently flying with the pro-sealed and riveted tank
method?
How sensitive to humidity is pro-seal when being applied?
William Dominguez
Zodiac 601XL Plans
Miami Florida
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>From time to time someone mentions Ham Radio or Amateur Radio on the list.
I also see some email addresses that look like Amateur Radio Call Signs.
I am curious how many on the list have their Ham License?
I have been WB8BGY since 1969. Google my call sign to see my Amateur Radio
background.
73...George
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I have mine. K0BLR since 1998. Formerly KC0CZP
----- Original Message ----
From: George Race <mykitairplane@mrrace.com>
Sent: Tuesday, July 3, 2007 6:43:25 PM
Subject: Zenith-List: Ham Radio
>From time to time someone mentions Ham Radio or Amateur Radio on the list. I
also see some email addresses that look like Amateur Radio Call Signs.
I am curious how many on the list have their Ham License?
I have been WB8BGY since 1969. Google my call sign to see my Amateur Radio background.
73...George
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Hi George
ZL2LG since 1972.
73's
Peter
QTH: Wellington, NZ.
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________________________________
From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of George Race
Sent: Wednesday, 4 July 2007 11:43 a.m.
Subject: Zenith-List: Ham Radio
>From time to time someone mentions Ham Radio or Amateur Radio on the
list. I also see some email addresses that look like Amateur Radio Call
Signs.
I am curious how many on the list have their Ham License?
I have been WB8BGY since 1969. Google my call sign to see my Amateur
Radio background.
73...George
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| Subject: | Re: Scratch Building Fuel Tank |
William what size tanks are you going to build?
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| Subject: | Re: Canopy latching system |
still doesnt make scence?
Steve Shuck <stshuck@comcast.net> wrote:
It won't, you will have to get yourself out..
----- Original Message -----
From: Jack Russell
To: zenith-list@matronics.com
Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2007 10:12 AM
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Canopy latching system
dont understand how that would work on the outside? j
Steve Shuck <stshuck@comcast.net> wrote:
I like your idea of separate latches, however I think I can expand on
it.
----- Original Message -----
From: robert stone
To: Zenith list
Sent: Monday, July 02, 2007 2:54 PM
Subject: Zenith-List: Canopy latching system
Wade,
I would not advise any builder to use the latching system from Zenith.
I have had nothing but trouble from mine since the airplane was new. First
the canopy would not latch so on the advice from some of the net members, I
raised the lower latch part by 1/8th inch using a shim under it. Then the
canopy would latch and now when it is latched and I am trying to open it
turning the knob on the left side of the canopy, it sticks. I plan to
eliminate the entire system and use latches like the ones on the box I have
enclosed a picture of. I would advise anyone building this aircraft to do
the same. This is the system being used on all KR aircraft and I know from
experence, it works fine and if you are scratch
href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Zenith-List">http://www.matronhref="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com
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still doesnt make scence?
Steve Shuck <stshuck@comcast.net> wrote:
It won't, you will have to get yourself out..
----- Original Message -----
From: Jack Russell
To: zenith-list@matronics.com
Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2007 10:12 AM
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Canopy latching system
dont understand how that would work on the outside? j
Steve Shuck <stshuck@comcast.net> wrote:
I like your idea of separate latches, however I think I can expand on
it.
----- Original Message -----
From: robert stone
To: Zenith list
Sent: Monday, July 02, 2007 2:54 PM
Subject: Zenith-List: Canopy latching system
Wade,
I would not advise any builder to use the latching system from Zenith.
I have had nothing but trouble from mine since the airplane was new. First
the canopy would not latch so on the advice from some of the net members, I
raised the lower latch part by 1/8th inch using a shim under it. Then the
canopy would latch and now when it is latched and I am trying to open it
turning the knob on the left side of the canopy, it sticks. I plan to
eliminate the entire system and use latches like the ones on the box I have
enclosed a picture of. I would advise anyone building this aircraft to do
the same. This is the system being used on all KR aircraft and I know from
experence, it works fine and if you are scratch
href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Zenith-List">http://www.matronhref="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com
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Let me correct that. I have been Licensed since 1998. My current callsign is K0BLR.
73,
Ben K0BLR
----- Original Message ----
From: Ben Ramler <ben_ramler2002@yahoo.com>
Sent: Tuesday, July 3, 2007 7:04:53 PM
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Ham Radio
I have mine. K0BLR since 1998. Formerly KC0CZP
----- Original Message ----
From: George Race <mykitairplane@mrrace.com>
Sent: Tuesday, July 3, 2007 6:43:25 PM
Subject: Zenith-List: Ham Radio
>From time to time someone mentions Ham Radio or Amateur Radio on the list. I
also see some email addresses that look like Amateur Radio Call Signs.
I am curious how many on the list have their Ham License?
I have been WB8BGY since 1969. Google my call sign to see my Amateur Radio background.
73...George
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